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781  Economy / Economics / Re: People keep talking how weak dollar and how bad usa economy getting on: November 21, 2023, 02:38:13 AM
yea I also think the same shit I mean if we creating fiat backed by gold today the US and UK is controlling most of the gold right now and they combine has the biggest reserve in the world currently. If you look at the Gold price The volatility is not as strong as the bitcoin I mean a yearly hold gold only make Up by single digit percentage.

and yes the US dollar is getting strong especially in my country here take a look the image.

14% up just in 3 year Sad
782  Economy / Economics / Re: ~85% of money doesn't exist on: November 21, 2023, 02:33:49 AM
Guy do you think such a problem with fiat can be solved by Central Bank Digital Currency I mean I dont think we discussed fiat problem but where is the 85% of the money, the news is everywhere if the CBDC is adopting the crypto system it means will easy to track where is the money goes right?
783  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Crypto to Debit Cards vs Crypto to Gift Cards Do you really care. on: November 21, 2023, 02:27:26 AM
It does not just happen in the US, Here in Indonesia there is a dozen e-wallets from a different provider, and there are also a dozen of the bank. So back then all the transactions were using either cash or physical card. After the boom of e-wallet, most of the merchandise in malls started adopting QR Payment method but the QR is only specified to one app.

and now the government has the solution to adopt one QR System and all bank app and e-wallet app can use that qr for payment so today, a transaction using a card and cash is becoming less and less.
small merchants started to adopt it too and just yesterday there is a caffe that only accept qr payment no cash.

If CBDC implement by the government the cash might hard to find.
784  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Anyone been using Pyypl? It seems a potential virtual card can use crypto on: November 21, 2023, 02:16:28 AM
Just heard it today and I want to download it but the rating in Google Play is 3.4 is the service is good. and anyway is there a thread that discussed about Crypto debit card and Virtual card I want to know more since both Binance and Bybit not allowed user from indonesia
785  Economy / Speculation / Re: My Best Bitcoin Chart Ever on: November 20, 2023, 12:58:00 PM
TBH my prediction for 2024 is quite high for me, its necessary for Bitcoin to hit a new ATH and by the end of 2023, I'm expecting a range of 40k to 42k range in a regular scenario.

Most of us are currently who own some low coins, are expecting a crash but TBH its really a scenario with decent rarity according to the recent market momentum market is indicating highly bullish rally for the coming months as well, but some upset from the EYF can really fill the desires of the hungary accumulators.

Well same as I do 2024 might be a wonderful year for bitcoin, if all ETF is approved by SEC next year 50K is not impossible to reach. Since Im pretty sure that 40-43K gonna reach in this year.

And lot of companies might join the crypto aswell since the MicroStrategy make 1 Billion unrealized profit already
786  Economy / Economics / Re: AI will put an end to work, says Elon Musk on: November 20, 2023, 02:28:54 AM
That could be way harder than it sounds. First of all, it won't be easy to clearly define what "AI" actually is and then we'd need to figure out where exactly the line should be drawn, i.e. what use of AI to allow and what to ban.
On top of all that, you have global superpowers competing for global dominance. If one country decides that using AI can help them get advantage over others, they will not hesitate to use it.

Well you are kinda true especially if AI gives an advantage in some countries but other countries are banning it.

Lets just hope that these applications  wouldnt really be that making things getting more worst. Well, it is really just that too much of thinking about those probabilities but just like as i said
that this kind of advancement would really be that inevitable. There would really be those huge changes when it comes to this matter but in speaking about AI will put and end to work
for all people or human beings then this is something that a false thing, there are still jobs or positions which human beings are really that superior.

But The AI is can be helpfull and can be dangerous at the same time. Is like two sides of blade

Imagine if AI has the super capability of learning with the brain of a quantum computer. 100% human will be dead hahha just like the Mission Impossible the last movie
787  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buying at 35k? on: November 20, 2023, 02:25:10 AM
I think if the goal is for the long term and not looking at momentary gains then indeed the answer will definitely be the same because there is nothing wrong with buying at that price but for some people sometimes they only focus on the benefits they get now and think they can take the benefits they get. Although it is not a mistake but if in the end we think further about what happens such as our target for the next few years then I think buying regularly and continuously then it will be much better regardless of the price for now because the target we want to achieve is not now but the next few years.

1000% agree long-term goal is the choice, especially for bitoin which has the huge benefit, like this moment there are a dozen top investment companies who are racing to get SEC approved for their ETF Filling. So that is why I said that 35K is at low prices when all those companies get approved I dont think we are gonna see 35K again in future.

If all ETF-approved ATH can be reached in next year.
788  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bull season started? on: November 20, 2023, 02:02:28 AM
Today is the deadline for the SEC to decide whether to approve or continue to reject the ETF, I think there will be a lot of volatility today. Currently, the market is also reacting before the official announcement. I think if someone wants DCA this is probably a good time to buy and buy because SEC rejection is almost certain. The ETF will definitely be approved but this is not the right time for that big event yet. I'm not sure if bitcoin can drop to 30k-33k, but I think with this news, it's more likely that bitcoin will correct towards $34k, IMO. Let's wait and see what happens today, I have prepared USDT Cheesy Cheesy.
I would have loved it if you had some sources to back your claim of SEC's arrivals deadline for those who are not conversant with it, this is a very good one and truly 17th of November is symbolic For Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies.

[1] SEC’s first window to approve all 12 spot
[2] There’s still a 90% chance for approval by Jan. 10

It is an eight-day window from the 9th of November to the 17th of November for all the 12 spots ETF fillings and the crypto market has been energetic before now. But as the days pass, the more the bullish tempo reduces, this is a sign of disapproval but let's still see how things unfold. The filing of the approval is being attended bit by bit per the proposed ETF companies and if it fails this season, there is still hope till the 10th of January. But my fear is what caused its disapproval now will not suddenly disappear at that time.

I do believe it is still next year the SEC might ignore this year applicant the good news is the more investment manager is filling ETF wheter that BTC or other crypto as well from small to big companies like BlackRock

if Vanguard join the party by filling bitcoin ETF Im 10000% sure that SEC gonna approve all the ETF since Vanguard and BlackRock alone is controlling the US companies hahahah
789  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Info Fee Mempool Terupdate & Penjelasannya on: November 20, 2023, 01:50:49 AM
Transaksi itu menggunakan Taproot yang saya kira akan menghemat fee transaksi hingga 0%. Ternyata saya salah soal ini setelah baca thread ini. Sebenarnya, apakah ada mekanisme khusus untuk menghemat fee transaksi Bitcoin?

Pada dasarnya Komunitas Bitcoin mengaktifkan Taproot di blok 709,632, pada 12 November 2021.
Taproot dikenal sebagai “soft fork”, yang merupakan jenis pembaruan perangkat lunak di mana implementasi baru kompatibel dengan infrastruktur lama.
Meskipun Taproot menjadikan Bitcoin lebih cepat dan lebih murah, Taproot juga meningkatkan privasi, skalabilitas, dan kemampuan program jaringan.
Taproot memberi kekuatan pada Taro - sebuah protokol yang diusulkan untuk menerbitkan aset pada blockchain Bitcoin. - https://trustmachines.co/learn/bitcoin-taproot-upgrade-basic-breakdown/

Taproot dan Native Segwit itu memang bikin murah gan, dan problem yang sekarang terjadi bitcoin block itu cuman bisa nampung kurang lebih ~ 1MB aja dan ini di spam oleh orang dengan transaksi kecil kecil + fee yang gede sedangkan defaultnya miner itu cuman pilih yang transaksi nya gede aja gan

jadi walaupun kita bisa mengefisiensi biaya tetep kalah sama fee yang lebih gede  Cry
790  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Info Fee Mempool Terupdate & Penjelasannya on: November 19, 2023, 02:00:12 AM

Transaksi sebesar 546 satoshi* (0.00000546 BTC) merupakan transaksi terkecil yang kemungkinan dijadikan 'perwakilan' saja untuk transaksi lain (semisal ordinal) yang 'mendompleng' ke blockchain Bitcoin.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-ordinals-btc-transaction-fees-5-month-peak
https://x.com/ordinalswallet/status/1720828899590873324?s=20

Kasus hampir serupa yang pernah terjadi sebelumnya, dimana banyak transaksi yang hampir sama dalam jumlah kecil secara berulang:


Nah itu gan kemarin di bahas ama stompix gini

jadi semua itu adalah transaksi ordinal tapi yang jadi pertanyaan selanjutanya nft nya yang mereka kirimkan itu gak terkenal yang kedua cuman tulisan doang apa ane yang gak tau kalau ada gambarnya.

dan yang terakhir gila banget cukkk bayat fee 100-200 sat/vb buat transaksi nft ginian  Lips sealed
791  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buying at 35k? on: November 19, 2023, 01:57:21 AM
Just like those days were the price of Bitcoin was $1, $10, $1k --people haven't the courage to buy this because it was expensive in a project that was not known for its potential and use case until the time came that it pumps high and make hype. People started to buy them and accumulate more thinking that there were more pumps coming. 

Well, investing is not been forced on anyone --those who think buying Bitcoin at $35k is quite expensive, I think they don't have room in crypto investment.
Indeed maybe 35K is quite expensive for now, But I do believe will be a thread again that say Buying at 60k?

What Im trying to say is most people dont have the courage to buy even at low price and I think the problem is they didnt believe enough to Bitcoin and

again Well, investing is not been forced on anyone --those who think buying Bitcoin at $35k is quite expensive, I think they don't have room in crypto investment. you are 100000% right
792  Local / Marketplace (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN] Mengapa reputasi memiliki peran penting di pasar bebas on: November 18, 2023, 04:50:30 PM
Kalau menurut saya penting banget sih dapat Trust dan feedback yang bagus semisal kita berjualan di bitcointalk jadi semakin yakin dengan user yang menjual dan barang yang akan kita beli. Bagaimana menurut kalian?

apagi dapat DT+1 wahhh tambah ngeri lagi hehe
793  Local / Marketplace (Bahasa Indonesia) / Mengapa reputasi memiliki peran penting di pasar bebas on: November 18, 2023, 04:48:22 PM
Penulis: GazetaBitcoin
Topik Original: [ANN] Why reputation is essential on the free market




Banyak pengguna datang ke forum ini untuk berdagang/trading. Dan barang dagangannya beragam - dapat berupa barang fisik, barang digital, pertukaran mata uang kripto, lelang, barang koleksi, peralatan PC, peralatan tamang kripto, dan sebagainya.

Forum ini bertindak sebagai pasar bebas dan reputasi yang baik sangat penting untuk keberhasilan sebuah kesepakatan. Seperti yang dikatakan Tim May lebih dari 30 tahun yang lalu, "Reputasi akan menjadi hal yang sangat penting, jauh lebih penting dalam transaksi dibandingkan peringkat kredit saat ini".

Di BitcoinTalk, reputasi dalam perdagangan diwakili oleh "Marketplace Trust", yang merupakan skor Yang menunjukkan umpan balik positif, netral dan negatif Anda. Jika seorang pedagang memiliki skor kepercayaan positif yang lebih besar, itu berarti bahwa dia dapat dipercaya. Hal sebaliknya juga berlaku: jika seorang trader memiliki kepercayaan negatif yang relevan, maka ia harus dihindari.

Sistemnya lebih kompleks dari itu, tapi ini bukan inti topiknya. Namun, ada dua aspek penting yang perlu disebutkan:
- untuk umpan balik kepercayaan negatif, di forum ini juga terdapat "Flag System" yang dapat digunakan untuk penjelasan lebih detail tentang ketidakpercayaan seorang trader
- meskipun sistem kepercayaan dirancang untuk aktivitas perdagangan, anggota forum cenderung memberikan umpan balik juga berdasarkan pendapat pribadi mereka tentang orang lain, sehingga mempengaruhi skor kepercayaan. Oleh karena itu, pengguna yang tertarik untuk berdagang dengan seseorang harus membaca dengan cermat semua masukan tentang orang tersebut untuk mendapatkan gambaran yang jelas tentang dengan siapa mereka ingin berdagang.

Seperti disebutkan di atas, topiknya bukan tentang sistem trust/flag, tetapi tentang pentingnya memiliki reputasi yang kuat. Semakin besar reputasinya, maka semakin besar peluang seorang pengguna untuk melakukan transaksi. Hal sebaliknya juga terjadi: upaya penipuan atau pelanggaran kontrak dapat merusak reputasi.

Umumnya, orang-orang yang terlibat dalam sebuah perdagangan - baik dari mereka penjual atau pembeli - mereka ingin mencari perdagangan yang lancar dan sukses. Dan gagasan umumnya adalah jika seseorang memiliki rekomendasi yang bagus (dalam hal ini - masukan), kecil kemungkinannya untuk ditipu. Oleh karena itu, seorang pedagang yang ingin menjual suatu produk akan tertarik pada pembeli yang memiliki feedback yang baik (dan juga skor kepercayaan yang baik), yang menyatakan bahwa dia membayar dengan cepat (misalnya). Seorang pedagang yang ingin membeli tertarik pada penjual yang mempunyai feedback yang baik yang menyatakan dia mengirimkan produk sesuai kesepakatannya, produknya cepat sampai, dalam kondisi baik, tidak ada kerusakan dll.

Permasalahan lain yang sering muncul adalah sebagai berikut: umumnya jika kedua belah pihak tidak mempunyai reputasi yang baik, maka yang ditanyakan adalah: “siapakah yang pertama kali mengirimkan (uang/barang)?”. Pada dasarnya, yang bereputasi meminta yang lain untuk mengirim terlebih dahulu, karena dia tidak dapat membuktikan kepercayaannya. Jika pihak lain tidak bersedia mengambil risiko dan mengirim terlebih dahulu, maka kesepakatan batal (belum lagi bagaimana situasi ini terjadi ketika ada dua pihak yang memiliki reputasi buruk). Kemungkinan terjadinya masalah ini jauh lebih kecil jika terdapat dua pihak yang memiliki reputasi baik - dalam hal ini, kemungkinan besar, tidak ada satu pun dari mereka yang keberatan mengirimkan terlebih dahulu.

Reputasi mendefinisikan kita sebagai individu dalam masyarakat dan sebagai konsekuensinya, dan dalam aktivitas perdagangan.

Orang-orang dan pedagang yang jujur harus sangat tertarik untuk membuktikan kepercayaan mereka di pasar bebas, sehingga dapat dengan mudah, lancar dan sukses bertransaksi barang dagangan mereka.

Namun, jika pedagang tersebut adalah anggota baru di sini, ia harus melakukan beberapa langkah, untuk mendapatkan kepercayaan dari orang lain dalam aktivitas perdagangan. Reputasi tidak dibangun dalam semalam, atau dalam sebulan. Dibutuhkan waktu untuk membangun reputasi yang kuat atau agar nama (pengguna) Anda dikenal oleh orang lain dan dipandang sebagai "dapat dipercaya". Namun begitu seorang pedagang mencapai reputasi yang baik, reputasinya mensertifikasi sebagai pedagang yang dapat dipercaya.

Ada beberapa cara untuk memulai karir di bidang perdagangan di pasar bebas. Mungkin anggota baru bisa memulai sebagai penjual dengan mengirimkan barangnya terlebih dahulu dan menunggu uang setelahnya. Atau kalau dia pembeli, dia bisa kirim uang dulu baru nunggu barangnya. Namun dia harus memilih pihak lain dengan hati-hati dan memastikan pihak tersebut adalah pihak yang memiliki reputasi baik, sehingga meminimalkan risiko penipuan. Jika perdagangan berhasil, maka harus diikuti oleh perdagangan lainnya dan pada waktunya, dengan langkah mudah, karir dalam perdagangan dan reputasi yang baik akan dibangun.

Sebagai catatan akhir, BitcoinTalk bahkan lebih kompleks dalam hal perdagangan. Selain skor kepercayaan dan masukan, trader juga dapat memperhitungkan peringkat dan prestasi yang diperoleh pihak lain. Jangan hanya melihat pangkat/prestasinya saja, tapi mengambilnya secara keseluruhan, beserta skor kepercayaannya. Jika pengguna memiliki peringkat tinggi, atau dia memperoleh banyak pahala di masa lalu, ini harus menjadi tanda-tanda seseorang memiliki niat baik. Namun hal ini tidak selalu benar. Namun aspek-aspek ini, ditambah dengan skor kepercayaan positif yang kuat, menunjukkan gambaran keseluruhan tentang seseorang yang kecil kemungkinannya mencoba melakukan penipuan.

Setiap orang harus melakukan proses due dilligence/uji kelayakan. Namun perlu diingat bahwa untuk dapat dipercaya, Anda harus memiliki reputasi yang baik. Dan untuk memiliki reputasi yang baik Anda harus membuktikan (berkali-kali) bahwa Anda menghormati perjanjian Anda.
794  Economy / Economics / Re: How Much Does Food Cost in Your Country? on: November 18, 2023, 01:55:58 AM
I live in Indonesia and stay in a relatively small city and the monthly cost including rent maybe around $152 and the food may be around $3 a day. But if you like buy food outside and buy some coffe maybe around $10 a day
795  Economy / Economics / Re: Cryptocurrency is the second most popular investment in "France" on: November 18, 2023, 01:42:50 AM
Well, that is crazy I mean usually in most countries the most popular investment is either a Stock or Real estate in some cases maybe a mutual fund.

But crypto is on the top list is remarkable  Cool. But who is dont want to invest in crypto if in some cases gate 100% profit in a year or when stake can double digit apy in a year right
796  Economy / Economics / Re: Boycotting iSrAEl's product? think again. on: November 18, 2023, 01:40:55 AM
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/14/indonesians-boycott-mcdonalds-starbucks-over-support-for-israel Here in my country there is boycott product like Starbucks and mcdonald tho I dont really buy the product too even before the boycott is arrived because expensive hahaha.

I just want to ask is there a news about that company gives money aid to israel soldier or it is spark because mcd israel gives free meal to soldier ?
797  Economy / Economics / Re: What is the right age for financial stability? on: November 18, 2023, 01:28:16 AM
to gain financial stability is hard especially if you have a generation like me that is the Sandwich generation you need to pay your parent and if you have a kid or brother you also need to pay them I mean like school etc.

and the right age, in my opinion, is as soon as possible and budgeting everything and of course, we also need a budget for entertaining for us too. But start investing when you get your first paycheck. so maybe it can help you in future or if we lucky enough we got retire early
798  Economy / Economics / Re: AI will put an end to work, says Elon Musk on: November 18, 2023, 01:22:26 AM
IF you guys play watch dogs or watch some scifi movie that have AI in it I think all of it is actully can be possible in near future maybe only need 1 decade to replace almost anything, even before AI not crazy as now manufacturer using robot hand to make efficiency even tho the price is expensive at the beginning.

Elon Musk itself already said AI is far more dangerous than nuke. So we do need to regulate this AI in my opinion

799  Economy / Economics / Re: Honestly do we really got rugpulled in pandemic? on: November 18, 2023, 01:17:07 AM
I would say yes we got rug pulled in pandemic in the real world or the crypto world in the real world there is so many businesses are closing anything is get disrupted there is huge demand and low supply in some goods and stuff and creating expensive price government print more money to be use as stimulus but ending up make the inflation get worse.

in crypto the second wave of covid in 2022 to be exact the bear market has officialy come an reallly there is bunch of project got rug pull as well
800  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Bantu pemula belajar !!! on: November 17, 2023, 03:37:06 AM
untuk sekarang saran dari saya buat agan sih mendingan fokus belajar untuk ikutan ujian dan mungkin sedikit membaca apa yang disedaiin oleh agan agan di mari atau bisa lihat beberapa video yang ada di youtube dan bisa lihat beberapa artikel di mari https://academy.binance.com/en atau https://www.youtube.com/c/whiteboardcrypto

kalau ujian dah selesai dan merasa mantab langsung gasss aja gann hehe
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