All seals are equal, but some seals are more equal than others.

They just locked the thread and left this gem:

Hey, how about SWC going through their thread and deleting 58 posts (and counting!) over the course of a couple days? Guess that whole HH thing was pretty embarrassing for them in retrospect.

I can't believe that the post about them raising the rake again without notifying players didn't get axed. When did SWC get so shady?

Hey, I think you guys forgot to announce that SWC changed the house rules and is no longer covering the transaction fee for withdrawals. Are there any other changes that players should know about?

I hear that you started raking rebuys and add-ons sometime in the last few weeks, too. I couldn't find any mention of that on the website, though. How much are rebuys and add-ons being raked now? When was the change made?

When do the rake increases go into effect? It looks like the rake webpage was updated but I haven't seen any official announcements?

Thanks, but I'll wait on verification from whoever is running the official SWC account these days about who is privy to what information. You seem to know a suspicious amount about the inner workings of SWC for a nobody who just sends screenshots to support. Either that, or you're being dishonest about what you do know.

Where can I sign up as a regular seal to learn things like which SWC security flaws resulted in a multiaccounter going undetected until he brought it to the site's attention personally?



I've been around SWC for a minute and I don't ever recall a regular player knowing the outcomes of security audits and that in a certain case, the security team was able to track these three specific accounts back to this specific player who was multiaccounting. I hear that when other people report cheaters to SWC, support won't even confirm or deny that they took action against the player.


So what you're saying is that some keyboard warriors got you so worked up and paranoid that you thought an earnest letter written in good faith by long-time players (that was not addressed to you, and none of your business) was some sort of diabolical plot? Maybe you should consider changing careers.


Pretty meaningless when just typing "YAWN" is "pushing the boundaries" and a bannable offense. Did you ever decide whether beans would catch another ban if he says "wankers" again? Was that so spicy that it is driving away the 500 new players you are guaranteeing by the end of the year? Or, in retrospect, was that a total overreaction because you were upset and making things personal again?

Actually, it was YOU who said that SWC shows you emails. Do you remember that time when 25 players signed an email sent to support@swcpoker.eu expressing concerns with the rule changes? You then confronted one of the signers in the trollbox and told him:





https://imgur.com/a/EqoJGm0

I have included the text of the original letter below to show that calling the signers "terrorists" is both pejorative and a gross exaggeration.

I have redacted the names of the signers lest they be subjected to additional punishment for respectfully submitting their opinions to support. Somehow, you managed to get a copy of that email as well, even though to my knowledge, it was never mailed to you and only sent directly to support@swcpoker.eu.

What about this email struck you as a terroristic threat? Why would support break the trust of these players and show you an email not addressed to you? Why did you think it was appropriate to use that information to openly mock the signers in the trollbox and make a hit list of "terrorists" that need to be banned from the site?

I personally don't trust emailing support any longer because I have no idea who they are sharing my emails with at this point. I would have never expected they would share confidential emails with another player for use as ammunition.

Just reports players to management, but somehow can view the screenshots that other players send to support@swcpoker.eu by HH's own admission.

How many other players do you think spend time every day with SWC going through the emails sent to support?

I know multiple people who have been waiting 10+ days for a simple response from SWC support, but somehow this regular player who "just reports players to management" reads other players' emails to support on a daily basis.

https://imgur.com/a/q9e2AZh

Can you please respond to my question? There has been no official clarification.

Is higherhighs an SWC employee or an account sanctioned by SWC to moderate chat?

To support@swcpoker.eu:

Can you please remove higherhighs from the trollbox? If you want to ban the N-word and F-word, great. I fully support those decisions. But this guy is instigating all of the misery in the trollbox right now and then playing the victim card when it inevitably escalates.
 
Is this person even sanctioned by you? I feel like this must be a troll since it's so over the top, but people keep getting muted and the rules keep getting changed to ban all possible instances of higherhighs' feelings getting hurt, so that's confusing.

Please just post the chat rules prominently and keep it objective. For example, "you can't tell people to kill themselves" and "don't say the N-word or post links referring to the N-word" instead of including wildly subjective rules like "no player abuse" (whatever that means). Then, quietly mute people who break the rules without having higherhighs confront them in the trollbox. If they want to discuss the reasons for the ban, stick to email.
 
For whatever reason, higherhighs cannot moderate chat without making it personal and involving himself in every conversation that has nothing to do with him. His constant barrage of "you're pushing it," "this is your final warning," "you've been pushing the edge all week long," "that's not the only reason we banned beerman," "chat is a privilege," "stop abusing me" bullshit just makes it worse. Why would you even discuss the reasons for player bans with EVERYONE IN THE TROLLBOX?   
 
It only escalates arguments when higherhighs tells someone they're banned, but the ban won't take effect until 12 hours from now when someone wakes up. Then, the player rages out for the next 12 hours and higherhighs escalates the conflict even further by increasing the length of the ban because he's feeling "abused." He has directly instigated the abuse he complains of in almost all cases I've seen.
 
Letting higherhighs report people based on his personal dislike of certain players is a disastrous, ill-conceived policy that only serves to make him feel like he has control over some aspect of his life and inflates his ego. He thinks he is entitled to respect because his chat color is green, and when that fails, he resorts to intimidation, fear tactics, and misdirected punishment. It doesn't work that way. You have to earn people's respect. 
 
You're driving away players and making SWC look terrible. The 500 krill requirement to chat is punishing new players. Do yourself a favor and take away higherhighs' chat. It won't stop him from reporting people by email, but will prevent the current trainwreck in the trollbox from continuing, and might possibly slow the hemorrhage of players from the site.
 
marlais

It was standard.

https://imgur.com/a/cPHLjT3

If you're wondering why there's so many BIG BTC players diluting your equity, it's because you get a free ticket if you take enough random abuse in chat.

Player-friendly environment? I guess you haven't met the SWC chat moderator.

Yes, you earn less each week. I'm now earning less than a third of what I was earning in March.

Honestly, signing a message doesn't prove anything except that they know someone who has 43 BTC and they're willing to pay the transaction fee to move it to a separate wallet and sign on Betcoin's behalf. It doesn't prove that Betcoin owns the wallet.

However, their refusal to sign tells me that the funds are not segregated (if they exist at all). What is the harm in signing a message when it doesn't really show anything? Nothing, unless 1) you can't actually come up with 43 BTC, even if it doesn't belong to you or 2) they don't want to show an address that had its balance go from zero to 43 BTC a couple days ago because that would show that the funds hadn't been segregated all along.

The only way that Betcoin can "prove" anything is by shipping 43 BTC to the BBJ winner. To be honest, all of this delay is probably because they're having issues with the code that will let them pre-select the BBJ winner so that they can redistribute the funds among themselves at a later date while not having technically "stolen" anything.  

You guys remind me of some high school dweeb who has sat by the phone for the last 500 consecutive nights because a year and a half ago some really hot cheerleader asked for his number and said she'd call. Just stop. Stop steaming, stop waiting, stop crying, stop complaining, stop trying to guilt trip them into being something they're not, stop thinking this is your destiny and you'll never find another.

SORRY BRO, but SWC JUST ISN'T INTO YOU. ANY OF YOU.

I'm also confused about what's going on here. It seems like the last month or so, every big announcement has been reversed in short order:

we're stealing the BBJ because our TOS says we can / just kidding, we're distributing the BBJ according to rake paid / just kidding, we're distributing it a different way because we hired the old staff back and they were too incompetent to do it(?)

the new owners are closing the poker site / the new owners are reopening the poker site / the new owners are reopening poker in general but closing the poker site to U.S. citizens because it's a stipulation of our gaming license / the new owners are accepting poker players from all countries

Seriously, what's going on here? Are the U.S. players going to be kicked off the site again after the BBJ has been distributed? Can we please get some specifics on when and how the BBJ will be divested?

What award, like Miss Congeniality? Glad I went to all that trouble to find and sign wallet addresses and then waited patiently while you missed your self-imposed wallet deadline and left snarky comments aimed at people politely inquiring about it on twitter.

You guys should have been able to tell exactly when your 840K supply was exhausted, but chose to accept addresses until some arbitrary deadline. So far, I'm extremely underwhelmed by BTR ops and management. GL getting listed on an exchange.

Wait, I'm confused. "We are very excited to be taking over..."/"With the discontinuation of our poker program..." makes it sound like the person who is taking over the poker program is the same person who is running the current poker program.

Are you taking over the poker site or are you scuttling it? Did you guys "acquire" the poker portion of Betcoin with the intention of discontinuing it? That seems like a pretty -EV decision unless you're running a competing site (there aren't any) or it's a complete fabrication to conceal an exit scam, which is my guess. Assuming for a minute that you're telling the truth, do you realize that those terms and conditions were a contract between the "old" Betcoin company and its players? If Betcoin wanted to steal the BBJ in accordance with the terms and conditions, they would have needed to do so before the 25th.

On the other hand, if this is simply an exit scam, there's no need to follow terms or conditions, so just go ahead and steal it and stop bullshitting the players you stole from.

I actually received a LTC withdrawal from coinpot on the 21st. It took about a day after I put in the request. Have you searched for the BTC address you gave them on blockchain explorer? I heard that their BTC transactions are taking forever because of network congestion and I'm sure they're using small fees. I have heard others recommend that you convert your withdrawal to Dash or LTC so you receive it in a reasonable amount of time. That being said, they have been offline for maintenance for 24 hours or so, so if your withdrawal is not already in the mempool you might be waiting a while.

Seems reasonable to me.