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LOL what a response by hh. Still it doesnt change the fact that you join table, block the seats just to threat people you will mute them for "lecturing other people" . As long as its not racist people can say what they want, its called freedom of speech. If this site is not able to block certain words like for example pokerstars does its their own fault.
Trash talk is a part of the game and you think you stand over other players and want to take this away from them. If players are bad and somebody tells him that they are he is free to do so, thats not up to you.
About the cheating I cant say anything, I can only rely to what other people say but I think HH actions and "power" go to far for just another player.
EDIT: HH once again got automatically registered in an overlay tournament in the exact very last second, that cant be a coincidence. I told you this is his payment although he lies that there is non.
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August 21, 2020, 02:48:12 AM |
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LOL what a response by hh. Still it doesnt change the fact that you join table, block the seats just to threat people you will mute them for "lecturing other people" . As long as its not racist people can say what they want, its called freedom of speech. If this site is not able to block certain words like for example pokerstars does its their own fault.
Trash talk is a part of the game and you think you stand over other players and want to take this away from them. If players are bad and somebody tells him that they are he is free to do so, thats not up to you.
About the cheating I cant say anything, I can only rely to what other people say but I think HH actions and "power" go to far for just another player.
I joined a table with no waiting list and 2 seats open for 2 minutes to issue a player a verbal warning for abusing other players. I was unable to chat as an observer. That is a pretty rare occurrence, as most chat related issues happen in the lobby chat. A little trash talk is fine, but abusive chat is not.
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August 21, 2020, 03:19:10 AM |
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EDIT: HH once again got automatically registered in an overlay tournament in the exact very last second, that cant be a coincidence. I told you this is his payment although he lies that there is non.
Assuming you are aab, and did the same thing as me, joined the last second because there was going to be an overlay. I am not paid or compensated in any way, as I already stated. I also will not be doing this modding permanently. I am happily helping the site, and proud of the changes that are being made with the culture at SwC. higherhighs
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I saw someone say that SwC shows me emails, that is not true, I discuss with them why players were muted when the player emails in, and the screnshot I saw, was from a discord where players who are on board with the changes, send me screenshots of abusive/racist behavoir.
Actually, it was YOU who said that SWC shows you emails. Do you remember that time when 25 players signed an email sent to support@swcpoker.eu expressing concerns with the rule changes? You then confronted one of the signers in the trollbox and told him: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fi3MFN70.jpg&t=665&c=QY8PZ8RswxfCQg) https://imgur.com/a/EqoJGm0I have included the text of the original letter below to show that calling the signers "terrorists" is both pejorative and a gross exaggeration. I have redacted the names of the signers lest they be subjected to additional punishment for respectfully submitting their opinions to support. Somehow, you managed to get a copy of that email as well, even though to my knowledge, it was never mailed to you and only sent directly to support@swcpoker.eu. What about this email struck you as a terroristic threat? Why would support break the trust of these players and show you an email not addressed to you? Why did you think it was appropriate to use that information to openly mock the signers in the trollbox and make a hit list of "terrorists" that need to be banned from the site? I personally don't trust emailing support any longer because I have no idea who they are sharing my emails with at this point. I would have never expected they would share confidential emails with another player for use as ammunition. Dear SWC,
Somewhere along the way, through years of playing and chatting together, and several different software iterations, the players at your site have become a community. As such, we'd like to address the way in which the recent changes have been made, which have been met with almost universal disapproval (and not merely from players who have been chat banned). We understand the desire to make SWC a more desirable place to play and would gladly welcome an influx of new players. However, we also want to retain what made SWC unique amongst all other poker sites and what made it feel like home to many: the ability to speak your mind, to respectfully (or not so respectfully) disagree with someone, or just chat about nothing at all really-because that's what you do with your friends. We're not upset that a small handful of words are banned; we're not upset that referral links aren't allowed, we're not upset that you are enforcing these rules. What's frustrating to us is the manner in which the rules are being enforced and the feeling that SWC is turning their back on some of their most loyal supporters. With that in mind, here are some suggestions from the community that would help improve the situation:
- A clear list we can refer to about what exactly is banned -Electing a group of mods chosen by the community (with SWC input) who can enforce these rules with common sense and without bias -Either remove or significantly reduce any Krill requirements to chat -Give warnings instead of banning for first time offenders -Shorten the ban time and remove infractions for those banned recently for minor transgressions
It's a testament to the site that a player like beans could be chat banned and still help make sure players have chips to play here, or that a someone like Malkavian would still stream and promote SWC despite being too new to actually chat under the current requirements. Please don't squander this goodwill.
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I saw someone say that SwC shows me emails, that is not true, I discuss with them why players were muted when the player emails in, and the screnshot I saw, was from a discord where players who are on board with the changes, send me screenshots of abusive/racist behavoir.
Actually, it was YOU who said that SWC shows you emails. Do you remember that time when 25 players signed an email sent to support@swcpoker.eu expressing concerns with the rule changes? You then confronted one of the signers in the trollbox and told him: https://i.imgur.com/i3MFN70.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/2xsfCI0.jpghttps://imgur.com/a/EqoJGm0I have included the text of the original letter below to show that calling the signers "terrorists" is both pejorative and a gross exaggeration. I have redacted the names of the signers lest they be subjected to additional punishment for respectfully submitting their opinions to support. Somehow, you managed to get a copy of that email as well, even though to my knowledge, it was never mailed to you and only sent directly to support@swcpoker.eu. What about this email struck you as a terroristic threat? Why would support break the trust of these players and show you an email not addressed to you? Why did you think it was appropriate to use that information to openly mock the signers in the trollbox and make a hit list of "terrorists" that need to be banned from the site? I personally don't trust emailing support any longer because I have no idea who they are sharing my emails with at this point. I would have never expected they would share confidential emails with another player for use as ammunition. Dear SWC,
Somewhere along the way, through years of playing and chatting together, and several different software iterations, the players at your site have become a community. As such, we'd like to address the way in which the recent changes have been made, which have been met with almost universal disapproval (and not merely from players who have been chat banned). We understand the desire to make SWC a more desirable place to play and would gladly welcome an influx of new players. However, we also want to retain what made SWC unique amongst all other poker sites and what made it feel like home to many: the ability to speak your mind, to respectfully (or not so respectfully) disagree with someone, or just chat about nothing at all really-because that's what you do with your friends. We're not upset that a small handful of words are banned; we're not upset that referral links aren't allowed, we're not upset that you are enforcing these rules. What's frustrating to us is the manner in which the rules are being enforced and the feeling that SWC is turning their back on some of their most loyal supporters. With that in mind, here are some suggestions from the community that would help improve the situation:
- A clear list we can refer to about what exactly is banned -Electing a group of mods chosen by the community (with SWC input) who can enforce these rules with common sense and without bias -Either remove or significantly reduce any Krill requirements to chat -Give warnings instead of banning for first time offenders -Shorten the ban time and remove infractions for those banned recently for minor transgressions
It's a testament to the site that a player like beans could be chat banned and still help make sure players have chips to play here, or that a someone like Malkavian would still stream and promote SWC despite being too new to actually chat under the current requirements. Please don't squander this goodwill.
Where did I say SwC shows me emails or gives me access to them? I do understand why you may feel a little confused how one of the signees could send me the email, especially since multiple signees never saw the email or knew their names were signed to it before it was sent.......but someone did send me a copy of the email, and it was not SwC. The terrorists I was referring to were were several players who I had seen a screenshot of discussing how they were planning on undermining the new rules and their strategy to maximize passive aggressiveness and try to not cross the line, in an effort to 'break me'. Ill give you the names privately but dont care to stir things up publicly, but were signees. There is no hit list, everyone who has been muted, has been trying to push the boundaries, or refused to fold an honor SwC's requests. These same players told me there was nothing I could do because 'the inmates run the prison', and tried to organize rake strikes, or tried to manipulate me into acting in a way that they wanted by targeting someone. Many of the players who signed that email, have been working with me to improve the tournament schedule, or offer other ideas to improve the site's functionality or promotions. And several of the suggestions in that email have, in fact, been incorporated. Those that want to continue focusing on bringing me down to undermine the changes SwC is moving forward with, are missing out on true opportunities to improve the site, because real change is happening and the site is getting stronger.
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Haven't been active in troll box for years now so I only know what I'm reading in this thread, but if I had to guess I'd say higherhighs convinced you guys that he had power that he didn't during a troll war. Unless there's evidence other than players being muted and claims by HH, don't take it out on swc management. If it's any consolation, it seems like he probably was hoping to get some sort of special privileges and that probably won't be happening now.
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August 21, 2020, 06:13:23 AM |
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I do understand why you may feel a little confused how one of the signees could send me the email, especially since multiple signees never saw the email or knew their names were signed to it before it was sent.......but someone did send me a copy of the email, and it was not SwC.
Thanks, but I'll wait on verification from whoever is running the official SWC account these days about who is privy to what information. You seem to know a suspicious amount about the inner workings of SWC for a nobody who just sends screenshots to support. Either that, or you're being dishonest about what you do know. Where can I sign up as a regular seal to learn things like which SWC security flaws resulted in a multiaccounter going undetected until he brought it to the site's attention personally? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLS9xZCW.png&t=665&c=WT7d-KLdGje6fQ) I've been around SWC for a minute and I don't ever recall a regular player knowing the outcomes of security audits and that in a certain case, the security team was able to track these three specific accounts back to this specific player who was multiaccounting. I hear that when other people report cheaters to SWC, support won't even confirm or deny that they took action against the player. The terrorists I was referring to were were several players who I had seen a screenshot of discussing how they were planning on undermining the new rules and their strategy to maximize passive aggressiveness and try to not cross the line, in an effort to 'break me'. Ill give you the names privately but dont care to stir things up publicly, but were signees.
So what you're saying is that some keyboard warriors got you so worked up and paranoid that you thought an earnest letter written in good faith by long-time players (that was not addressed to you, and none of your business) was some sort of diabolical plot? Maybe you should consider changing careers. There is no hit list, everyone who has been muted, has been trying to push the boundaries, or refused to fold an honor SwC's requests.
Pretty meaningless when just typing "YAWN" is "pushing the boundaries" and a bannable offense. Did you ever decide whether beans would catch another ban if he says "wankers" again? Was that so spicy that it is driving away the 500 new players you are guaranteeing by the end of the year? Or, in retrospect, was that a total overreaction because you were upset and making things personal again?
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August 21, 2020, 03:51:15 PM |
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I do understand why you may feel a little confused how one of the signees could send me the email, especially since multiple signees never saw the email or knew their names were signed to it before it was sent.......but someone did send me a copy of the email, and it was not SwC.
Thanks, but I'll wait on verification from whoever is running the official SWC account these days about who is privy to what information. You seem to know a suspicious amount about the inner workings of SWC for a nobody who just sends screenshots to support. Either that, or you're being dishonest about what you do know. Where can I sign up as a regular seal to learn things like which SWC security flaws resulted in a multiaccounter going undetected until he brought it to the site's attention personally? https://i.imgur.com/LS9xZCW.pngI've been around SWC for a minute and I don't ever recall a regular player knowing the outcomes of security audits and that in a certain case, the security team was able to track these three specific accounts back to this specific player who was multiaccounting. I hear that when other people report cheaters to SWC, support won't even confirm or deny that they took action against the player. The terrorists I was referring to were were several players who I had seen a screenshot of discussing how they were planning on undermining the new rules and their strategy to maximize passive aggressiveness and try to not cross the line, in an effort to 'break me'. Ill give you the names privately but dont care to stir things up publicly, but were signees.
So what you're saying is that some keyboard warriors got you so worked up and paranoid that you thought an earnest letter written in good faith by long-time players (that was not addressed to you, and none of your business) was some sort of diabolical plot? Maybe you should consider changing careers. There is no hit list, everyone who has been muted, has been trying to push the boundaries, or refused to fold an honor SwC's requests.
Pretty meaningless when just typing "YAWN" is "pushing the boundaries" and a bannable offense. Did you ever decide whether beans would catch another ban if he says "wankers" again? Was that so spicy that it is driving away the 500 new players you are guaranteeing by the end of the year? Or, in retrospect, was that a total overreaction because you were upset and making things personal again? For people following along and is getting lost in all this amateur 'gotcha' investigative reporting is that SwC put me in a volunteer position of chat mod (although I do also help to get players' ideas and requests passed along to SwC) because the chat culture had become the equivalent of walking into a KKK rally. So much racist and homophobic language was being used and thrown around in the most vulgar and abusive ways that SwC decided to make some changes to the culture, which for 8 years, literally had no chat rules or oversight. Ultimately that meant that the most abusive chatters(not even all of them were players) gathered there, as the lobby chat became a place where people who liked to abuse or use hate speech came to target players and newcomers. It became some sort of fraternity, in where, if you got thru the abuse, you became a member. And felt more connected to the others who also did. To put things even further into perspective, these are the rules that were added, and have caused an uproar in a small number of 'regs'.
1. No hate speech, including racial and homophobic slurs. No sexually explicit speech.
2. No player abuse.
That is what is causing the uproar. Players who could not adapt to not using the 'N' word or be verbally abusive to other players, were muted, but still able to play on the site. 1st infraction is 1 week, 2nd 1 month and the 3rd is permanent. Very commonsense requests that you would expect when you went to ANY place of business to have to follow, however, these are the rules that a select few have had a problem with being able to follow, or are so jarring to the previous culture that they are now energized to be aggressive towards me and SwC. Let this be a public announcement that SwC has changed, that hate and racism and abuse are no longer tolerated, and that the abusers are now the ones that are not welcome. If you ever checked out SwC before, you understand what I am saying, and I ask you to come and check it out again. It is truly beautiful what has happened there in a short time, as players are now interacting and communicating with each other in positive and more impactful ways.
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I don't think anyone is upset about not being able to use the N word. People are upset because 90%+ of the bans are for reasons not listed in the rules or that fall under the ambiguous "chat is a privilege that can be taken away for any reason at any time" (paraphrasing here but its the "rule" that you like to post over and over again in chat when people ask why someone was banned.)
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August 21, 2020, 05:53:46 PM |
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I don't think anyone is upset about not being able to use the N word. People are upset because 90%+ of the bans are for reasons not listed in the rules or that fall under the ambiguous "chat is a privilege that can be taken away for any reason at any time" (paraphrasing here but its the "rule" that you like to post over and over again in chat when people ask why someone was banned.)
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In almost all situations players are given multiple warnings in an effort to get them to change their behavior so they would not be muted. This can be verified by the many players in chat that never have an issue with me or the rules every single day.
Also, I have been thanked by dozens of players for helping create a better atmosphere.
There are barely any mutes given any more, because the few people that wanted to cause non-stop problems are now permanently muted, after having multiple chances to digest the new rules.
I have no problem with any of the regs, and want everyone to be able to play and be happy. Accept that there are new rules, and respect them and you will never have an issue with losing chat privileges.
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Since you keep trying to steer around it, what I am trying to say is that you made SwC out to be some racist hellhole. You even likened it to a "KKK rally' a few posts ago. It was not and very few people that were banned were actually banned for using the N word or any sort of racist language. The other 90% of people were banned for random made up reasons that are not listed in the rules.
I don't have any problem following rules, especially the no racial slurs one as that really has no place anywhere. What I have a problem with is not knowing what the actual rules are because the official ones are few and listed on the website but the ones being enforced are many and exist solely in your head so therefore are impossible to follow and none of them pertain to fixing racism.
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Since you keep trying to steer around it, what I am trying to say is that you made SwC out to be some racist hellhole. You even likened it to a "KKK rally' a few posts ago. It was not and very few people that were banned were actually banned for using the N word or any sort of racist language. The other 90% of people were banned for random made up reasons that are not listed in the rules.
I don't have any problem following rules, especially the no racial slurs one as that really has no place anywhere. What I have a problem with is not knowing what the actual rules are because the official ones are few and listed on the website but the ones being enforced are many and exist solely in your head so therefore are impossible to follow and none of them pertain to fixing racism.
Steering around what? Your made up #s? Have you even read the updated rules? https://swcpoker.eu/house-rules#chat-rulesChat RulesChat is a privilege that can be revoked by management at will. Verbally abusing players will not be tolerated.Chat is uncensored, and is not necessarily in English. Players are provided with an Ignore option to hide the chat of any player they do not wish to see. a) Coarse language is permitted, but racial/sexual slurs and hate speech are prohibited.b) Discussing a hand in progress, revealing your hole cards prematurely, or otherwise affecting gameplay is prohibited. c) Spamming or flooding the chat is prohibited. d) Illegal, malicious, and sexually explicit hyperlinks or chat is prohibited.e) Referral codes, referral hyperlinks, and advertisements for external promotions or sites are prohibited. f) Begging for chips at the table or in the lobby chat box is prohibited. In addition to the rules listed above, a common sense policy should be used to determine what is considered inappropriate chat. Cases will be dealt with by management on an individual basis.Players found to be using inappropriate chat will be given a warning, and will have their chat removed for one week.A second violation will result in the removal of chat for one month. Gross and/or repeated violations of prohibited behavior will result in a permanent loss of chat. Do not use multiple accounts to evade a loss of chat, or to chat to a user who has ignored you. This may result in escalated consequences at the discretion of SwC management. In general, 1st infraction = 1 week chat loss, 2nd infraction = 1 month chat loss, 3rd infraction = permanent chat loss. Doxxing another player will result in permanent loss of chat.
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Thats fine i know copying and pasting the rules is your only response to questions or criticism. My posting was more just to let people interested in joining have a perspective from a player about what is really going on not the story from the perpetrator themselves.
I have no dog in the race anymore anyways since I know longer play at or visit SwC Poker after my unfair treatment I am just giving my perspective for others.
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Higherhighs is definitely a weird hire, given that he is all but confirmed cheating at their OFCp tables. I wonder if the SWC team thinks he helped or hindered the site.
Seems like you have a personal vendetta but I'll bite in case I'm wrong. How is he all but confirmed cheating? Solver? collusion? Yes, he is live solving. I wonder if SWC could answer these three questions to alleviate some concerns about security of funds and integrity of the site: 1) Has ownership of SWC recently changed? 2) Do you not consider it a conflict of interest that higherhighs is playing against players he is actively involved in muting/banning? 3) Do you consider the PR you have gotten recently better than before and do you anticipate it changing in the future? Thanks in advance. Let's clear some things up. First, SkyReVo AKA Ugot0chance on SwC has played a good number of hours of chinese poker against me. And I first learned that solvers existed for chinese poker because he started accusing a different player we were playing against of cheating. Apparently, if he wins, he is the greatest, and if he loses, it could only be because someone cheated him. I have never cheated one hand of poker in my career, and I have never used a solver while playing or for practice. Because of this, I am confident there is no proof of me 'cheating', because I never have. What uGot0Chance/SkyReVo forgot to mention is that I offered him $2,000, no strings attached, to provide any proof that I have cheated or used a solver in any capacity. This was my response to him calling me a cheater after our last session. That offer is still open and available to anyone. I also offered him to escrow $2,000 and I would do the same, and I would livestream play him, to prove that my mind is the only thing I need to beat him. He also declined this invitation. Now lets talk about chat. I have volunteered to help SwC clean up their chat/culture because their new rules were not being adhered to by many players/chatters who have evolved with SwC over the years. The chat at SwC, had been very toxic, as there were literally no rules for chatting for 8 years. This involved many players/chatters logging in every day to SwC to abuse other players with often time racist and homophobic remarks and a lot of abuse. This culture, may have formed a tight nit bond with a few players, but pushed a lot of new players away over the years and made it so it was tough for people to rec the site to their friends, knowing they would be exposed to extreme abuse. Having been playing on and off on the site since very first month in existence, I had seen the evolution of the site and culture, and had always felt that this aspect of the site needed to change to be able to grow. So when I saw an opportunity to help for a short amount of time to evolve the culture in a positive direction, I offered to help. I saw someone say that SwC shows me emails, that is not true, I discuss with them why players were muted when the player emails in, and the screnshot I saw, was from a discord where players who are on board with the changes, send me screenshots of abusive/racist behavoir. Many players are thrilled with the new direction of SwC, but there are definitely a handful of players, that have deemed it more important to be able to drop racist and homophobic slurs at will then to respect the request and chat rules that SwC has put forth. These players seem to be the most vocal on social media and are distorting the truth in some type of effort to get me 'fired'. I put 'fired' in quotes because I am not paid or compensated at all. uGot0Chance/SkyReVo lost his chat permanently for advertising another poker site and enticing SwC players to play there.....he made over a dozen of these posts on July 13th, and was permanently muted because of it. Though poaching players for another site was more then enough to perm mute him, he also chose to be disturbingly abusive towards me, graphically giving me in-depth directions in the lobby chat on how to slit my wrists correctly. Lastly, if you ever stopped playing on SwC because of the culture, I hope you stop by and check out just how different it has become. I am really proud to be part of the reason why hate speech and abusive behavoir are no longer tolerated on SwC, and although some of the abusers have now found an outlet thru social media, I am looking forward to SwC continuing to strive to be a poker destination for all players. Thank you for your time, higherhighs Whew... lots of smoke screens here, very impressive. I'll keep it short: Yes, I have played higherhighs for a while and we have since confirmed that during that period, he has used live assistance against me and atleast two other (ex-)regulars. This was confirmed by a developer of one of these solvers (think PIO solver, just for Chinese) with confidence. If you follow this thread, you know why I'm not confident sharing exactly how we know with him or SWC. But it's unequivocally the case. We haven't played much recently, therefore I do not know if he still does is since he is affiliated with SWC. For any (potential) OFCp player, I just issue this warning: There is a reason none of the regs ever plays higherhighs anymore and if you're really interested, DM me and I'll share info on discord. There is no upside to me taking his "offer". It's another fairly obvious smoke screen, don't think I have to explain. As for the chat issue, I couldn't care less. Yes, I do verbally abuse cheaters. Consider yourself lucky that that's all that happens nowadays, back in the day, cheaters were buried alive in the desert. Ah, how times change. Just for clarification though, I am not an agent/affiliate for any site and didn't poach anyone, just told people that there are much better options and referred them to other agents. Again, don't care about the chat ban. But I will always warn about cheaters. Lastly, if you ever stopped playing on SwC because it seemed sketchy, I hope you consider my words of caution that SWC has extremely bad judgement in who they deal with (and I suspect ownership has recently changed aswell), and therefore the risk of playing here has, imo, increased quite a bit. In the end, you decide who to trust. Thank you for your time, uGot
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The players are being lied to.
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August 22, 2020, 07:22:02 AM |
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August 22, 2020, 10:16:21 AM |
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Higherhighs is definitely a weird hire, given that he is all but confirmed cheating at their OFCp tables. I wonder if the SWC team thinks he helped or hindered the site.
Seems like you have a personal vendetta but I'll bite in case I'm wrong. How is he all but confirmed cheating? Solver? collusion? Yes, he is live solving. I wonder if SWC could answer these three questions to alleviate some concerns about security of funds and integrity of the site: 1) Has ownership of SWC recently changed? 2) Do you not consider it a conflict of interest that higherhighs is playing against players he is actively involved in muting/banning? 3) Do you consider the PR you have gotten recently better than before and do you anticipate it changing in the future? Thanks in advance. Let's clear some things up. First, SkyReVo AKA Ugot0chance on SwC has played a good number of hours of chinese poker against me. And I first learned that solvers existed for chinese poker because he started accusing a different player we were playing against of cheating. Apparently, if he wins, he is the greatest, and if he loses, it could only be because someone cheated him. I have never cheated one hand of poker in my career, and I have never used a solver while playing or for practice. Because of this, I am confident there is no proof of me 'cheating', because I never have. What uGot0Chance/SkyReVo forgot to mention is that I offered him $2,000, no strings attached, to provide any proof that I have cheated or used a solver in any capacity. This was my response to him calling me a cheater after our last session. That offer is still open and available to anyone. I also offered him to escrow $2,000 and I would do the same, and I would livestream play him, to prove that my mind is the only thing I need to beat him. He also declined this invitation. Now lets talk about chat. I have volunteered to help SwC clean up their chat/culture because their new rules were not being adhered to by many players/chatters who have evolved with SwC over the years. The chat at SwC, had been very toxic, as there were literally no rules for chatting for 8 years. This involved many players/chatters logging in every day to SwC to abuse other players with often time racist and homophobic remarks and a lot of abuse. This culture, may have formed a tight nit bond with a few players, but pushed a lot of new players away over the years and made it so it was tough for people to rec the site to their friends, knowing they would be exposed to extreme abuse. Having been playing on and off on the site since very first month in existence, I had seen the evolution of the site and culture, and had always felt that this aspect of the site needed to change to be able to grow. So when I saw an opportunity to help for a short amount of time to evolve the culture in a positive direction, I offered to help. I saw someone say that SwC shows me emails, that is not true, I discuss with them why players were muted when the player emails in, and the screnshot I saw, was from a discord where players who are on board with the changes, send me screenshots of abusive/racist behavoir. Many players are thrilled with the new direction of SwC, but there are definitely a handful of players, that have deemed it more important to be able to drop racist and homophobic slurs at will then to respect the request and chat rules that SwC has put forth. These players seem to be the most vocal on social media and are distorting the truth in some type of effort to get me 'fired'. I put 'fired' in quotes because I am not paid or compensated at all. uGot0Chance/SkyReVo lost his chat permanently for advertising another poker site and enticing SwC players to play there.....he made over a dozen of these posts on July 13th, and was permanently muted because of it. Though poaching players for another site was more then enough to perm mute him, he also chose to be disturbingly abusive towards me, graphically giving me in-depth directions in the lobby chat on how to slit my wrists correctly. Lastly, if you ever stopped playing on SwC because of the culture, I hope you stop by and check out just how different it has become. I am really proud to be part of the reason why hate speech and abusive behavoir are no longer tolerated on SwC, and although some of the abusers have now found an outlet thru social media, I am looking forward to SwC continuing to strive to be a poker destination for all players. Thank you for your time, higherhighs Whew... lots of smoke screens here, very impressive. I'll keep it short: Yes, I have played higherhighs for a while and we have since confirmed that during that period, he has used live assistance against me and atleast two other (ex-)regulars. This was confirmed by a developer of one of these solvers (think PIO solver, just for Chinese) with confidence. If you follow this thread, you know why I'm not confident sharing exactly how we know with him or SWC. But it's unequivocally the case. We haven't played much recently, therefore I do not know if he still does is since he is affiliated with SWC. For any (potential) OFCp player, I just issue this warning: There is a reason none of the regs ever plays higherhighs anymore and if you're really interested, DM me and I'll share info on discord. There is no upside to me taking his "offer". It's another fairly obvious smoke screen, don't think I have to explain. As for the chat issue, I couldn't care less. Yes, I do verbally abuse cheaters. Consider yourself lucky that that's all that happens nowadays, back in the day, cheaters were buried alive in the desert. Ah, how times change. Just for clarification though, I am not an agent/affiliate for any site and didn't poach anyone, just told people that there are much better options and referred them to other agents. Again, don't care about the chat ban. But I will always warn about cheaters. Lastly, if you ever stopped playing on SwC because it seemed sketchy, I hope you consider my words of caution that SWC has extremely bad judgement in who they deal with (and I suspect ownership has recently changed aswell), and therefore the risk of playing here has, imo, increased quite a bit. In the end, you decide who to trust. Thank you for your time, uGot No matter how many times you say a lie, will not make it true. Just to put this child to bed, I will up my offer to $10,000 to provide proof that I have cheated in one hand, or have ever used a solver while playing or even for practice. Also, I play so fast, much faster than UGot, and will livestream some sessions so that everyone can see my brain in action. I also have played as high as $75 a point in live casinos, and I consider myself an expert at chinese poker (especially 2-7). Oh, and just to show everyone how Ugot is is just talking out of his butt, notice his 1st post (below) about this stated I was 'all but confirmed cheating at theri OFCp tables' and that has now progressed to 'we have since confirmed that during that period, he has used live assistance against me and atleast two other (ex-)regulars.' $10,000, show the World that proof, or I will accept your following excuse in your next post as a public apology. Higherhighs is definitely a weird hire, given that he is all but confirmed cheating at their OFCp tables. I wonder if the SWC team thinks he helped or hindered the site.
I haven't cashed out everything, sometimes there are some mega fish you can take advantage of, but my action there went from 80% to like 10%. Kinda sad, I liked earning BTC directly. But oh well..
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August 22, 2020, 10:29:28 AM |
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With all that drama here, I feel it's time to share that there are also great things happening. SwC Poker have been hosting exclusive Bitcointalk Poker Series for the last couple of months, sponsoring these and the 9 best players of our current series (#3) will play the Grand Finale tomorrow - posting this 1) to up the mood 2) to express the thanks of everyone participating in the series.
Thanks for having helped establishing a regular poker game among bitcointalk users - something like that didn't exist before.
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August 22, 2020, 10:59:30 AM |
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$10,000, show the World that proof, or I will accept your following excuse in your next post as a public apology.
Unless you're really dumb there's basically no way for another player to prove whether or not you're using a solver and if someone had proof you'd already know about it. And as long as you're clicking the buttons it wouldn't be difficult at all to make it impossible for seals to catch you. You might as well just make it a billion dollar reward - same difference. My guess is the accusations are stemming from an obvious personal grudge, but this challenge doesn't make you look innocent in any way. If you keep being a passive aggressive dick in chat this drama will keep following you.
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