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[SwC_Poker]

The decision to make adjustments to the chat rules, and the ultimate enforcement of those rules, comes from SwC management. We want SwC to be a place that everyone can join to have some fun playing bitcoin poker.

Neither ownership nor management has changed.

We understand that not all players may agree with these adjustments, or may be unclear about them at first.

We welcome all suggestions, feedback and critiques from players about the rules and their enforcement as long as they are made in a respectful way.

Higherhighs, along with other players, have assisted in pointing out inappropriate chat and relaying suggestions during this period until there is an official SwC representative present. These players have no control or powers themselves other than to send in reports and suggestions. They are not employees and are not compensated in any way. They do not represent or speak officially for SwC. But we do appreciate their help as a connection between players and management. We also invite any other players with suggestions to send them to us directly.

If you are curious about actions taken with your account, feel they have been made in error, or have issues with another player we ask that you email support. We also ask that personal attacks and debates between players be kept out of this thread.

Issues regarding individual accounts or disputes between players will not be handled on a public forum.

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If you observe a player or players that you would like the security team to look at please send in a report to support. Accusations shared in chat or a forum are not enough. You do not need to have proof to make a report. Simply include as much info as possible about the game and situation that you observed. The team will investigate from there.

We are aware that some players have reported slower response times from support and are working to improve that. If you have not received a reply after some time you may send us a PM with your screen name and we will check in to it.

We understand the issue regarding players without chat not being able to request action from the table. The team is working on a solution.

I'm sorry for the double post, but since you run some rather successful mixed game tournaments sometimes, I want to make a suggestion:

PokerStars has a structure in which blinds start much higher in comparison, but one orbit of games has the same blinds for each game (in this case the split games even have slightly higher blinds, see FLO8), here's an example:



Now, this tournament is rather turbo, but I think the general idea is great and worth adopting since, as it stands now, some games are way more impactful than others, just because of the way they're sorted.

I hope you like the idea and trial it sometimes. It is far more fair and, as a side effect, starting with higher effective blinds will facilitate more re-entries, which is good for SWC and the price pool!

Thank you. This is a good suggestion and will be forwarded to the team.

With all that drama here, I feel it's time to share that there are also great things happening. SwC Poker have been hosting exclusive Bitcointalk Poker Series for the last couple of months, sponsoring these and the 9 best players of our current series (#3) will play the Grand Finale tomorrow - posting this 1) to up the mood 2) to express the thanks of everyone participating in the series.

Thanks for having helped establishing a regular poker game among bitcointalk users - something like that didn't exist before.

Thank you for organizing these events and everyone here from Bitcointalk that has been taking part in them.

[SkyReVo]

Higherhighs is definitely a weird hire, given that he is all but confirmed cheating at their OFCp tables. I wonder if the SWC team thinks he helped or hindered the site.

My bad, I'm not a native English speaker. We do have proof, he just wasn't / won't be taken action against by SWC and we're not confident in their willingness to do so (apparently he is good friends with the owner) to forward that proof.

Unless you're really dumb there's basically no way for another player to prove whether or not you're using a solver and if someone had proof you'd already know about it. And as long as you're clicking the buttons it wouldn't be difficult at all to make it impossible for seals to catch you. You might as well just make it a billion dollar reward - same difference.

Yep, happy to see I really didn't have to explain and everyone but the man himself understands.

Neither ownership nor management has changed.

If only we could believe you...

But we do appreciate their help as a connection between players and management.

So you think this is going well?

[wildan88]

When i read articles about casinos and betting sites about scamming people, it is not a good thing of course that they do this. but with poker, it does not make any sense at all why they would scam people because they poker site will never lose money as they only have to payout the money that is used by other players. unless they got very greedy and starting a self destructive project hehe.

[SwC_Poker]

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[figmentofmyass]

Lastly, if you ever stopped playing on SwC because of the culture, I hope you stop by and check out just how different it has become.

all i know is, the drama you've stirred up has really fucked up our private bitcointalk series. a bunch of our players can no longer chat at the tables anymore because of the 500 krill requirement. implementing something like this without any kind of whitelisting feature leaves a really bad taste in one's mouth. it's pretty annoying that you guys let some trollbox drama turn into this, not to mention de facto chat banning all new players to the site. what a shitshow!

[bullpup]

Lastly, if you ever stopped playing on SwC because of the culture, I hope you stop by and check out just how different it has become.

all i know is, the drama you've stirred up has really fucked up our private bitcointalk series. a bunch of our players can no longer chat at the tables anymore because of the 500 krill requirement. implementing something like this without any kind of whitelisting feature leaves a really bad taste in one's mouth. it's pretty annoying that you guys let some trollbox drama turn into this, not to mention de facto chat banning all new players to the site. what a shitshow!

well at least they wont be exposed to any bad words

[SwC_Poker]

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[SkyReVo]

I mean, we all knew that the "Online" number in the top right is bogus, but this pretty much confirms it. Unless you believe that out of the 208 people online, 167 play an exclusive freeroll.

(Even the numbers don't match since more than 40 other people sat cashgame tables at that time.)

I guess the "500 player online" promise from hh is achievable when you just fudge the numbers.

[higherhighs]

https://i.imgur.com/thLnOi5.png

I mean, we all knew that the "Online" number in the top right is bogus, but this pretty much confirms it. Unless you believe that out of the 208 people online, 167 play an exclusive freeroll.

(Even the numbers don't match since more than 40 other people sat cashgame tables at that time.)

I guess the "500 player online" promise from hh is achievable when you just fudge the numbers.

You love to throw mud to see if something sticks?  Im not even sure what you are trying to say here....that players in cash games cant also be playing in a freeroll?  And I said 500 players by year's end is my guess.  

Some people have conspiracy theory brains.....I guess you are one of them.

Anyway, just wanted to stop by and show all the people on here how much of liar you are to accuse me of cheating, and then to sit down to play with me just now.  Because that makes sense.

https://i.imgur.com/X1pZZBl.png   https://i.imgur.com/X1pZZBl.jpg

[SkyReVo]

I mean, we all knew that the "Online" number in the top right is bogus, but this pretty much confirms it. Unless you believe that out of the 208 people online, 167 play an exclusive freeroll.

(Even the numbers don't match since more than 40 other people sat cashgame tables at that time.)

I guess the "500 player online" promise from hh is achievable when you just fudge the numbers.

You love to throw mud to see if something sticks?  Im not even sure what you are trying to say here....that players in cash games cant also be playing in a freeroll?  And I said 500 players by year's end is my guess.  

Some people have conspiracy theory brains.....I guess you are one of them.

Anyway, just wanted to stop by and show all the people on here how much of liar you are to accuse me of cheating, and then to sit down to play with me just now.  Because that makes sense.

   https://i.imgur.com/X1pZZBl.jpg

lol, Zapmeister was sat with you, I joined and put auto-ready in, he left and you decided to click ready knowing I won't play you HU. Scummy as always.

As for the other thing: There is like 3 people in that whole tournament who aren't completely new names. Whatever buddy, keep those numbers up.. I guess.

[SwC_Poker]

This is the final time that we're going to ask that these personal back and forth arguments not take place in this thread.

We're here to listen to suggestions and feedback. We're here to work with players to get your ideas on what you'd like to see.

You are welcome to share constructive criticisms about something that you'd like to see change, but posts made only to troll and personal disputes between players do not belong here.

I mean, we all knew that the "Online" number in the top right is bogus, but this pretty much confirms it. Unless you believe that out of the 208 people online, 167 play an exclusive freeroll.

Not all players registered for the tournament were online when it ran. Those players that are sitting out therefore are not counted in the number shown as online in the lobby, because they are not online.



To all players:

What would you like to see added to the tournament schedule?

Is there a specific game or buyin level that you would like to play that isn't currently being offered?

A game that is there that you'd like to have more of?

A current game that you'd make an adjustment to?

[SkyReVo]

We're here to listen to suggestions and feedback. We're here to work with players to get your ideas on what you'd like to see.

Really, huh? Are you? Cool.

- Implement Lightning payments or atleast let us use Segwit (suggested and "in development" for over a year)
- Bring back NL27TD (promised over a year ago)
- Finally give us some 25ks (asked for for many months)
- Fix the god damn Chinese 3 handed tables so whoever gets the button first doesn't have a huge advantage ("in development" for months).

Let's be honest, the reason you don't get "constructive criticism" is because we've been saying the same stuff forever and nobody on your side ever cared, so we stopped caring. You might not want to hear it, but it's the truth. Stop asking for suggestion, you already got a bunch. Work on those.

[WearsMyLiberty]

To all players:

What would you like to see added to the tournament schedule?

Is there a specific game or buyin level that you would like to play that isn't currently being offered?

A game that is there that you'd like to have more of?

A current game that you'd make an adjustment to?

I understand the need to have lower stakes options.  I don't play them myself but I know there are those that do so that's fine.  But it is a little frustrating to see a majority of tournaments on the schedule turn in to low stakes tournaments.  A lower buy-in will be more accessible to more players... but it also loses players that don't want to play that small.

The Nightly Seal Battle was a good tournament when it was a 1k rebuy... but I stopped playing when it went to 500.  I think it gets fewer players overall now.  I understand not wanting to overlay with 100k guarantee... so maybe go with 75k or something.  That's one I would play every night.

The newly added daily 5k 8max is nice... but it would get more players with a larger guarantee.  I would play that if it were at least 75k.  The weekly 5k 100k guarantee tournaments on always go over the guarantee.

Something later in the 2k - 5k range would be nice.  I've never personally liked the Late Night Smooth structure... if that tournament were changed to a 2k 30k-40k guarantee with a normal structure I would play that every night.

Overall just a few more options in the 2k - 10k range with at least 15-20 player guarantees.  Maybe something in between 2k and 5k like 3k/3.5k is what's needed as a balance to reach the most players.

Also agree with Lightning network and withdrawals to native Segwit addresses.

[TwitchySeal]

Weekly and monthly Tournament Leader boards with decent prizes and an avatar or something could help increase traffic.  Only guaranteed tournaments with X players should count, and definitely get feedback on how to calculate points before hand.

[Juggy777]

To all players:

What would you like to see added to the tournament schedule?

Is there a specific game or buyin level that you would like to play that isn't currently being offered?

A game that is there that you'd like to have more of?

A current game that you'd make an adjustment to?

@SwC_Poker you could consider adding a live poker game to the site, as it’s a very popular game and should be an instant hit on your site.

Weekly and monthly Tournament Leader boards with decent prizes and an avatar or something could help increase traffic.  Only guaranteed tournaments with X players should count, and definitely get feedback on how to calculate points before hand.

@TwitchySeal yea they could definitely increase the weekly winning amount, as that would encourage more player’s to participate out there on a more consistent basis.

[SkyReVo]

Okay fuck it, I'm slightly drunk and have decided to give it one more shot since incompetent glitch is gone now.

Constructive (lengthy) feedback regarding tournaments (and I know most nanostake regs won't like it):

If you want to be successful, I believe you should look at what competitors are doing right, then analyze what the strengths (and weaknesses) of your product are and then emulate and improve what is working for them.

By far the fastest growing site in the last few years is the GG network, I will use Nat8 as an example. Nat8 has done a few very smart things.



This is what their current schedule looks like. Notice how the average buy-in is much, much higher than on SWC. Apart from the occasional off-game (NL08) and hyper nano tournament, most of them are lowstakes+. I have been playing on this site for longer than most and I can tell you that when they started, they didn't have microstakes at all, tournaments pretty much started in the $11 range.

What does this do? It attracts players with funds and establishes your site as a serious way to make money with reasonable guarantees.
Natural8 started small, and at first they were having trouble getting traffic for the stakes they offered. What did they do?

1) They invented bubble protection. If you were registered before the game started, and you bubbled, you got your buy-in back. This immediately made tournaments run - they still have it, but nowadays the chance of them having to pay out is much, much lower as field sizes have increased.

2) They have automated, in-lobby staking. It gives nanostakes players the opportunity to dabble into the lower stakes you offer by selling (and midstakes grinders to highstakes, making those softer etc. etc.)



3) They increased the min. player for the tourney to run (in this case to 8.), but gave a significantly higher guarantee aswell, because when games run and there is overlay, chances are people jump on it.

4) They intelligently "poached" small but up and coming streamers and gave them a way to a good deal if/when they grow playing on their side (easterdamz, pokerbrahs to name a few), specifically those who expressed dissatisfaction with the sites they were currently playing on.


What are the strengths of your site?

A) You have mixed games. Apart from agent sites, PokerStars is the only other site that offers those afaik. The WSOP is played online this year and GG Poker gets to run it, but all the events are PLO and NLHE now, all the great mixed game championships got scrapped because they don't offer it. THINK of the missed opportunities.

aaand B) Bitcoin! There are a lot of people in the bitcoin sphere who made a shit ton of money, are willing to gamble (they invested in bitcoin early after all) and are symphathetic to any provider that adopts bitcoin only as rigorously as you have done. Remember the twitter 10k tournament that was run by Mr.Hodl? These are the people you are looking to attract.


So, in short:

As of now, you are targeting the wrong audience, most successful sites have figured out that micro- and nanostake players aren't worth the chase. Change direction, get rid of most nano and micro and improve low-to-highstakes offerings, see above how. Notice how my suggestions don't cost you money, the freeloading attitude on SWC is insane (loans in chat, promos, leaderboards etc.)

Improve your satellite games - when fewer nano and micros are offered, people will want to play the lowstakes, give them a chance to get there. This gives them a way into "exciting" opportunities with meaningful guarantees and improves the game quality. PartyPoker has done very very well in this regard, look there for inspiration.



Find a way to make yourself seen, hosting pman ain't the way.

Implement Lightning payments. Deposits MUST be instant, and withdrawals should be, too. This alone will put you ahead of ACR, BOL and all the other shitty US-facing sites.

And focus on mixed games eventually, since that's the main attribute that sets you apart from your competitors.


Good luck. Oh, and fire HH if you want any chance of success.

[figmentofmyass]

They have automated, in-lobby staking. It gives nanostakes players the opportunity to dabble into the lower stakes you offer by selling (and midstakes grinders to highstakes, making those softer etc. etc.)

i'm not gonna get my hopes up, but i would love to see this. i used to love buying pieces of MTT players and was staked on and off for sunday tourneys myself years ago. having an automated way to do it in-lobby would IMO result in instantly better MTT liquidity. i'd love to see this on a USA-facing/crypto site and i'd definitely contribute liquidity to it.

Improve your satellite games - when fewer nano and micros are offered, people will want to play the lowstakes, give them a chance to get there. This gives them a way into "exciting" opportunities with meaningful guarantees and improves the game quality. PartyPoker has done very very well in this regard, look there for inspiration.

+1.

[scammed-by-nitro]

Okay fuck it, I'm slightly drunk and have decided to give it one more shot since incompetent glitch is gone now.

Constructive (lengthy) feedback regarding tournaments (and I know most nanostake regs won't like it):

If you want to be successful, I believe you should look at what competitors are doing right, then analyze what the strengths (and weaknesses) of your product are and then emulate and improve what is working for them.

By far the fastest growing site in the last few years is the GG network, I will use Nat8 as an example. Nat8 has done a few very smart things.



This is what their current schedule looks like. Notice how the average buy-in is much, much higher than on SWC. Apart from the occasional off-game (NL08) and hyper nano tournament, most of them are lowstakes+. I have been playing on this site for longer than most and I can tell you that when they started, they didn't have microstakes at all, tournaments pretty much started in the $11 range.

What does this do? It attracts players with funds and establishes your site as a serious way to make money with reasonable guarantees.
Natural8 started small, and at first they were having trouble getting traffic for the stakes they offered. What did they do?

1) They invented bubble protection. If you were registered before the game started, and you bubbled, you got your buy-in back. This immediately made tournaments run - they still have it, but nowadays the chance of them having to pay out is much, much lower as field sizes have increased.

2) They have automated, in-lobby staking. It gives nanostakes players the opportunity to dabble into the lower stakes you offer by selling (and midstakes grinders to highstakes, making those softer etc. etc.)



3) They increased the min. player for the tourney to run (in this case to 8.), but gave a significantly higher guarantee aswell, because when games run and there is overlay, chances are people jump on it.

4) They intelligently "poached" small but up and coming streamers and gave them a way to a good deal if/when they grow playing on their side (easterdamz, pokerbrahs to name a few), specifically those who expressed dissatisfaction with the sites they were currently playing on.


What are the strengths of your site?

A) You have mixed games. Apart from agent sites, PokerStars is the only other site that offers those afaik. The WSOP is played online this year and GG Poker gets to run it, but all the events are PLO and NLHE now, all the great mixed game championships got scrapped because they don't offer it. THINK of the missed opportunities.

aaand B) Bitcoin! There are a lot of people in the bitcoin sphere who made a shit ton of money, are willing to gamble (they invested in bitcoin early after all) and are symphathetic to any provider that adopts bitcoin only as rigorously as you have done. Remember the twitter 10k tournament that was run by Mr.Hodl? These are the people you are looking to attract.


So, in short:

As of now, you are targeting the wrong audience, most successful sites have figured out that micro- and nanostake players aren't worth the chase. Change direction, get rid of most nano and micro and improve low-to-highstakes offerings, see above how. Notice how my suggestions don't cost you money, the freeloading attitude on SWC is insane (loans in chat, promos, leaderboards etc.)

Improve your satellite games - when fewer nano and micros are offered, people will want to play the lowstakes, give them a chance to get there. This gives them a way into "exciting" opportunities with meaningful guarantees and improves the game quality. PartyPoker has done very very well in this regard, look there for inspiration.



Find a way to make yourself seen, hosting pman ain't the way.

Implement Lightning payments. Deposits MUST be instant, and withdrawals should be, too. This alone will put you ahead of ACR, BOL and all the other shitty US-facing sites.

And focus on mixed games eventually, since that's the main attribute that sets you apart from your competitors.


Good luck. Oh, and fire HH if you want any chance of success.

Is this site also anonymous when you play with btc or do they have KYC? Just wondering.

I wish swc would go in this direction as well. The software is good and it runs well. Only things to improve are player base and what you said.

[marlais]

When do the rake increases go into effect? It looks like the rake webpage was updated but I haven't seen any official announcements?

[tokeweed]

Okay fuck it, I'm slightly drunk and have decided to give it one more shot since incompetent glitch is gone now.

Constructive (lengthy) feedback regarding tournaments (and I know most nanostake regs won't like it):

If you want to be successful, I believe you should look at what competitors are doing right, then analyze what the strengths (and weaknesses) of your product are and then emulate and improve what is working for them.

By far the fastest growing site in the last few years is the GG network, I will use Nat8 as an example. Nat8 has done a few very smart things.



This is what their current schedule looks like. Notice how the average buy-in is much, much higher than on SWC. Apart from the occasional off-game (NL08) and hyper nano tournament, most of them are lowstakes+. I have been playing on this site for longer than most and I can tell you that when they started, they didn't have microstakes at all, tournaments pretty much started in the $11 range.

What does this do? It attracts players with funds and establishes your site as a serious way to make money with reasonable guarantees.
Natural8 started small, and at first they were having trouble getting traffic for the stakes they offered. What did they do?

1) They invented bubble protection. If you were registered before the game started, and you bubbled, you got your buy-in back. This immediately made tournaments run - they still have it, but nowadays the chance of them having to pay out is much, much lower as field sizes have increased.

2) They have automated, in-lobby staking. It gives nanostakes players the opportunity to dabble into the lower stakes you offer by selling (and midstakes grinders to highstakes, making those softer etc. etc.)



3) They increased the min. player for the tourney to run (in this case to 8.), but gave a significantly higher guarantee aswell, because when games run and there is overlay, chances are people jump on it.

4) They intelligently "poached" small but up and coming streamers and gave them a way to a good deal if/when they grow playing on their side (easterdamz, pokerbrahs to name a few), specifically those who expressed dissatisfaction with the sites they were currently playing on.


What are the strengths of your site?

A) You have mixed games. Apart from agent sites, PokerStars is the only other site that offers those afaik. The WSOP is played online this year and GG Poker gets to run it, but all the events are PLO and NLHE now, all the great mixed game championships got scrapped because they don't offer it. THINK of the missed opportunities.

aaand B) Bitcoin! There are a lot of people in the bitcoin sphere who made a shit ton of money, are willing to gamble (they invested in bitcoin early after all) and are symphathetic to any provider that adopts bitcoin only as rigorously as you have done. Remember the twitter 10k tournament that was run by Mr.Hodl? These are the people you are looking to attract.


So, in short:

As of now, you are targeting the wrong audience, most successful sites have figured out that micro- and nanostake players aren't worth the chase. Change direction, get rid of most nano and micro and improve low-to-highstakes offerings, see above how. Notice how my suggestions don't cost you money, the freeloading attitude on SWC is insane (loans in chat, promos, leaderboards etc.)

Improve your satellite games - when fewer nano and micros are offered, people will want to play the lowstakes, give them a chance to get there. This gives them a way into "exciting" opportunities with meaningful guarantees and improves the game quality. PartyPoker has done very very well in this regard, look there for inspiration.



Find a way to make yourself seen, hosting pman ain't the way.

Implement Lightning payments. Deposits MUST be instant, and withdrawals should be, too. This alone will put you ahead of ACR, BOL and all the other shitty US-facing sites.

And focus on mixed games eventually, since that's the main attribute that sets you apart from your competitors.


Good luck. Oh, and fire HH if you want any chance of success.

What any poker site should do is build a solid poker economy from the bottom up.  Meaning build a healthy microstakes economy that players can start playing in, build their roll and move up.  And the higher stakes start getting filled from there.

Oh and get the short deck tables up.  PLO5 is popular at SWC..  Pretty sure they'll looove short deck.  Use Triton rules, more action.  The regular 6 Plus Holdem one tends to make players nitty.