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better and more secure? I would make it so that every transaction has to go through my permission. That way bad actors can't possibly do anything, not even a 51% attack

omg OP is so right!

You know, I'm a really nice guy. I'll take all those evil bitcoins off of your hands, free of charge! I will spare you of the horrific consequences of holding bitcoins.

I would be more confident of myself if I were you guys, and not leave all my hopes and dreams to luck/fate. Even if I know I don't currently have the knowledge or ability to create something like bitcoin, that doesn't mean I should just sit still and do nothing.

If you truly want to be "successful" financially, if you want fianancial freedom, you should work towards it even if there's only a 0.0001% chance of increase your odds.

If every single bitcoiner just sat there hoping for bitcoin to go to the moon, it'll die for sure. We need people to promote bitcoin, people to make bitcoin more accessible, people who explains what bitcoin is, people who can help make the technology more intuitive to use, and many, many more things that will increase bitcoin's chances of going mainstream. We can all do our own part, if only to introduce bitcoin as a serious topic to friends and family. Because you're not just helping bitcoin, you're helping your own chances at becoming wealthy.

I heard Satoshi originally wanted to pass the key on to Hal Finney but because of his unfortunate condition Satoshi decided to give it to Gavin instead.

That's the key you were talking about, right, S4VV4S?

Satoshi is trying to collect the 9 central banker beasts to bring about an infinite tsukuyomi where Satoshi controls all of the money supply in the world. Gavin, is of course also known as Black Zetsu. And all the bitcoin fanboys you see saying things like "bitcoin will take over the world" is actually multi accounts of White Zetsu

Nah OP, you're wrong.

This is Nakamoto Satoshi [中本智]

you're the boss, you tell us

What do you think about this btc-e thing? Would this affect the general trend and whatnot?

Yup. This is true. It's what I'm thinking as well.

But even if you're not capable of creating a multi-million dollar business, if you could make $300/day, and bitcoin goes up 10x, that's equivalent of $3000/day which would be over $1M/year. Even $100/day would net you over 1/3M in a year.

A 10x increase in bitcoin price is, IMO, 100% certain. I mean, I'm not even saying it's certain bitcoin will survive. It could be that 10-20 years later it fades away to nothingness. Even then, I really think there are a few pumps left in it. So if you're not that greedy, and sell when bitcoin price is $2200, that's a pretty good wage.

If the normal "latte factor" doesn't interest you, this should.

But if you're here, it probably means you believe in bitcoin. If you genuinely think that bitcoin will go mainstream, that means that at some point in time, there will be a huge influx of people searching for bitcoin related sites/businesses. If you start now, it could give you an early-mover advantage and establish your business as one of the bigger ones.

Just as how Mark Cuban's broadcast.com was able to make him billions. Or the first apps on the iphone made millions.

Haha, I'm sure that's intentional

I'm thinking maybe bitcoin will end up as kind of 2 currencies in 1. What I mean is, on one hand, it will enable the poor, unbanked people a chance to access certain financial instruments, and cheaper remittances, things that poor people needs. This will be a somewhat closed system, as no one outside of the system really needs to enter it. But this will also be a very small portion of the available bitcoins.

The rest of the bitcoins will be purposely withheld by the rich elite. Because remittances and such are worth pretty much a set amount, the fewer bitcoins you allow in that system, the more each bitcoin will be worth. So the rich elite will keep the vast majority of the bitcoins, and it will be a store of value like gold, and traded amongst the rich. There's no incentive for anyone to move these bitcoins to the other system, as that will devalue bitcoin.

So you end up with 2 almost separate systems that don't really have much to do with each other other than setting the price.

This isn't quite true. I, for example, am not looking for a "fiat profit". Rather, I'm looking for a "purchasing power profit". I don't care whether I end up spending bitcoins or fiat, as long as instead of an old beat up toyota, I end up being able to afford a brand new lambourghini (just an example).

And the easiest way to get to that point is if bitcoin succeeds, rather than catching all the pumps and dumps. If I were that good a trader, I wouldn't necessarily need the bitcoin market anyway. There's penny stocks and whatever else.

So I think a lot of people, even if they're not libertarians and aren't religiously into decentralization and all that, they still wish for bitcoin's success.

I don't think anyone would seriously get into bitcoin because of doge. How did they hear about dogecoin before bitcoin anyway?

I don't think you understood him. He's not talking about different crypocurrencies. He's talking about different bitcoins. i.e Satoshi adds a message to a coin sent from one of the first addresses. Collectors' value. Stuff like that.

I don't think it's a problem. People like to collect serial numbers as well, say 100000 or 888888 or something. That doesn't really destroy the usability of the money, though.

remittances aren't gonna work if average joes, i.e the people who are USING the remittance don't use it.

Also, remittances aren't going to work until bitcoin price is stable. i.e it will have already gone mainstream.

articles like these are extremely harmful because those mindless feminists* will be like "OMG!1!11 ONEONE! BITCOIN IS SEXIST" and spread negative lies about bitcoin to stop people from using it.


*I feel obligated to be politically correct and say that not all feminists are mindless, but my honest opinion is that in the current world, there is very little rational reason to be a feminist, other than say support women's rights in muslim countries or something.

You realize that if they're not going to exchange their hard earned wage for some foreign internet currency, they're not going to exchange their hard work for some foreign internet currency either, right? They'll simply not consider jobs paying bitcoin just as you won't consider working for someone who will pay you monopoly money.

i don't mind using bitcoin directly when I can buy a $15mil mansion in LA for ~150 bitcoins.

Not really a lot better, IMO. Plus, just because someone is in a signature campaign, doesn't mean they don't try to make quality posts, or bother actually reading the OP. Not that you'll see this, right? Since you have everyone who has a sig campaign on your ignore list and all, that's why you were able to quote the first three replies, right?


In terms of the topic, I don't think there's any real point in donating in bitcoins rather than simply asking people to donate for biological research. How does bitcoin help? Although the first three posters did not read the OP, what they are talking about makes more sense in the context of a bitcoin forum. Besides, if the researchers are going to profit off of their research when it is finished, then those who contributed money to the research should get a piece of the pie as well, like a crowd-VC of sorts.

I think bitcoin can help in that respect. With smart contracts and what-not, I think we can maybe have a new class of investments kind of like stocks for these types of projects. 

No. I'm as bull as a bull can be, but that won't happen. The vast majority of the members of this forum doesn't even own a whole bitcoin. We're no longer in the phase where we can expect 1,000,000x return on investment.

To become a millionaire now would require a significant investment, one that most people are not willing to make. I guess that's why millionaires are so scarce. People would rather save their $10,000 than a very good chance at a million, even though that $10,000 won't really even do much for them.