Lol, so self-centered. Unfortunately the world doesn't care what you think, dude. Most people don't know about monero. Most bitcoiners. Not adding monero isn't going to do anything to their image, at least not yet.

This overly delusional optimism is really harming monero's image just like delusional bitcoiners harm bitcoin's image. You guys need to be realistic while being optimistic. Sure, maybe monero has promise. But as of now, it's really not that significant yet.

I think the thing isn't so simple. There's no way OKcoin will act the way they are if they thought they were 100% wrong, and there's no way roger ver would act this way if he thought he was wrong. There could be some sort of a misunderstanding or something deeper behind all this. In all likelihood, it's probably a 50/50, some right and some wrong on both sides.

As they say, any publicity is good publicity. But maybe bitcoin already has enough bad publicity. Maybe some people will claim that roger ver "owns" bitcoin now, since he has the domain.

I don't care about american laws or the american constitution. All I know is he enabled networks of drug and perhaps other harmful substances for trade around the world, that possibly harmed many families in the process. He definitely deserves to be punished.

Just because there are people or governments that have committed worse crimes than he has is not a reason to let him go unpunished. Two wrongs don't make a right, as they say.

What Ross did was also against the law. See? By your logic, he is completely guilty.

Dude, think before you speak. Do you really not see the difference between Ross Ulbricht and Satoshi Nakamoto?

If the motel owners are willingly and knowingly facilitating underaged prostitution at his property, YES, he should go to jail.

Sigh. I already pointed out your logical fallacy in my other post. Do you think that if you put a single murder in jail, that would put a dent in homicides around the world? There are tens of murders in the world. If you caught one, the rest would be somewhere else, murdering people.

So let's not catch any of them. Right? Man, think before you form an opinion.

That IS wrong.... it's like saying you never killed anyone, you just hired a murder to kill that person. You did nothing wrong.

Also, just because some criminals aren't caught, doesn't mean that no criminals should be caught. That's a logical fallcy.

You're dreaming. 6% with very little risk is quite decent even for inflationary fiat currencies. The actual gains are still much smaller.

You want 6% gains for a deflationary currency that's quite new, does not yet have enough regulations and protections and you want very little risk? Not going to happen.

Do you think or do you think he deserves? Since the first question doesn't really make sense here; that would be a question to law school students, not bitcoin enthusiasts. How would we know without a good knowledge of law?

So I'm going to answer the second;

Honestly I think 20 years is enough for this type of a crime. However, to discourage future criminals, I think a higher sentence is okay too.

However, if they closed down, it shows that it probably isn't feasible as a business yet.

1. Probably not. Most people don't know anything about bitcoin, and certainly nothing about the halving. So why would that affect them? If anything, maybe people will be turned off by an increase in price, thinking it's too expensive now. There may be some new entrants looking to speculate and get rich quick. But they're not adopting bitcoin into their lives, only speculating for profit.

2. Of course it's possible. If the demand falls by a lot, the price will fall. halving isn't the only factor in determining the price, in fact, I think it's probably a very small one.

Most people can't even do math with small numbers, and completely fail to understand or comprehend large numbers. There was a book that was made into a movie about evolution, where a homo sapien girl was abandoned or something, and got adopted into a neanderthal tribe. The smartest one in the tribe, the chief, could only count up to 5, because that's the number of fingers he has on his hand. The girl was able to count up to 10, which really amazed the chief.

Now obviously there's a lot of fiction in that story, but I think the point can be applied here. Most people are too dumb to comprehend large numbers.

You give the example of $5 trillion vs 82 million,  but I doubt these people would understand the difference in magnitude of those numbers. In their mind, its "big number" vs "another big number".

For everyone who thinks this is bitcoin's (next) killer app, can you summarize all the benefits and why it can potentially go viral and mainstream?

Uh obviously? That's why we're not at 23k per coin...

i was looking at coinmarketcap to see if polo volume moved elsewhere... and I saw XMR/USDT...

Is that just USD (i.e polo added "real" money) or is it something else?

Come on man, you're better than that, AP. Don't be racist.

At this point, it's stupid for people who don't understand bitcoin (to a certain extent) to invest in it. Sure, perhaps in the future better infrastructure will dumb it down so that everyone can use it. But as an individual, you need to know about all the benefits and risks involved if you're going to get involved... to blindly do it is silly.

I think fred's insight is particularly valuable as he is an intelligent and well educated person who isn't motivated by political ideologies and isn't a "geek". So he looks at this from the most neutral and realistic point of view.

Gavin also seems to understand the problems of the current bitcoin. It's weird how so many people on this forum doesn't understand such simple truths.

It's over. I thought it was quite interesting.

I think you can still watch it though. It's music for the first minute or two until the people arrive.

goes to show "legendary" member means nothing.