Huh?
The bigger the hashrate the higher the diff, the shares per second are constant depending on number of connections. So with a higher hash rate, and thus a higher diff, does the chance of solving a block go down or remain the same? Sorry, I'm not following how all this works.  Share diff is the equivalent of the server saying "Don't send me any shares that are less than a difficulty of x". For a given hashrate, if x were 100 (for example of small easy to talk about numbers) then the amount of times that amount of has "should" return shares would be 10 times per second (for example of small easy to talk about numbers). If you doubled that amount of hash, and kept x at 100, then you'd return 20 shares per second. The value of x fluctuates with hash in order to have a specific number of shares returned per second/minute, otherwise an huge hash increase would dump 300 gajillion shares and pointlessly flood the server. All shares that are returned for any difficulty lower than an actual block solve are solely for the purpose of the pool giving the users credit for their work (albeit that has no real meaning in a solo pool). To that end, there's no difference between 1 share at 100 or 10 shares at 10, other than the load on the server; so, the per user/hashrate diff is adjusted for that given hashrate and all users return roughly the same number of shares per second/minute. Ahh. Got it. Thank you!  So basically a large rental will stay 'about' the same SPS rate but will be transferring a much larger data packet/share with more difficult numbers (possible solves) in it. |
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Huh?
The bigger the hashrate the higher the diff, the shares per second are constant depending on number of connections. So with a higher hash rate, and thus a higher diff, does the chance of solving a block go down or remain the same? Sorry, I'm not following how all this works. |
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Interesting test I did today. I was bored. LOL
With 3.4-3.6PH the pool averaged 204-205 SPS.
I added a 3PH rental from nicehash and westhash to the pool for a while and the share rate only increased to 208SPS average.
Shouldn't it have gone up quite a bit more than that?
They use proxies which combine the shares from multiple machines into much less connections. Does that mena less shares are actually transferred to the pool then? Just a fictitious hash rate increase, but no real increase in shares? Diff Huh? |
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Interesting test I did today. I was bored. LOL
With 3.4-3.6PH the pool averaged 204-205 SPS.
I added a 3PH rental from nicehash and westhash to the pool for a while and the share rate only increased to 208SPS average.
Shouldn't it have gone up quite a bit more than that?
They use proxies which combine the shares from multiple machines into much less connections. Does that mena less shares are actually transferred to the pool then? Just a fictitious hash rate increase, but no real increase in shares? |
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Interesting test I did today. I was bored. LOL
With 3.4-3.6PH the pool averaged 204-205 SPS.
I added a 3PH rental from nicehash and westhash to the pool for a while and the share rate only increased to 208SPS average.
Shouldn't it have gone up quite a bit more than that?
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Nice My electrical company FINALLY figured out my bill. Dec 8 to Mar 7 18762 kWh Mar 7 - Apr 8 was 7974 kWh Grand total of 26 736 kWh
Problem is they lied to me what the rates were for all them other fees.. so what I thought was going to be around 7-8 cents ends up being 10-11.5 cents.
4 months it took them to get this convoluted math. Yet I am still puzzled at the 7974 kWh for the one month, becuase each s9 uses 11kwh x 6 = 6600, and the 650 - 700 i use for everything else should only be 7200. So this mysterious 700-800 kwh more may be a bad meter. ITS OLD. I thought it would be reading less.
So Yeah, now I have a 3200 dollar bill all at once. PRICKS. The preauthorized max for credit cards is 2500, so the whole bill cannot even be paid hahah.
 My electric company still hasn't figured out mine yet - still billing me ~$200 a month, instead of $2000 My automatic payment max limit set by them/bank is $1500 Gonna be a bitch when they figure this out ... If you're on a budget billing average system with your power company, they will send you a bill at the end of the budget-payment-period for the amount that was not 'budgeted' for and expect a balloon payment. Had that happen once. Never again. LOL Thank god for solar and the fed and state incentives. Not me, but many people can give the power companies the middle finger so they can all go EFF off. |
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He wants 50% payment upfront. Beware.
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All these crappy spamming accounts for the other crypto means THAT coin is about to die and there will be a big pump on POT coin.
Sweeet!
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Cool, they are free since there is no price? Just playing. |
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Ohh.. So it was not been proven yet that it actually can be done maliciously then?? KANO has numerously referred to it from rentals like nicehash and westhash and is actively blocking them 'due to that reason'. So there is really no merrit to that then? Sorry for all the questions, but I just want to get educated on this issue as I do rent hashrate to pools every now and then and nicehash is the easiest way to rent large PH++ . I did notice that when a large rental form NH/WH is active to this pool, the share-rate barely increases vs a bunch of small single miner rentals. the other week I hammered solo pool with 10ph for a while and it made little difference. (Albeit it was rentals from MRR where a rig owner was just re-renting NH hashrate turns out).  |
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So how do miners then do block withholding?
That's something I'd rather not educate people on how to do. I wasn't asking on instructions how to do it, but then how do we tell if a rental or anyone is doing it as I have read you write they are? I mean , logically, if we don't know, how do we know it REALLY exists. It's the falling tree in the forest dilemma. |
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So how do miners then do block withholding?
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Someone just found a block. 16GsNC3q6KgVXkUX7j7aPxSUdHrt1sN2yN Keep it up... please write some words to keep everyone motivated. Thanks Is that a solo mining pool or something. Look at those earnings. Also how can blockwithholding from rentals like nicehash be proven or tracked? |
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Dangit, I was hoping it was my that hit.  On another note, on the new block my highest share is 13374840390.69748, yet the bestshare on the pool stats screen is 3229902326. With the previous block when my bestshare was high, it properly was shown on the solo pool stats as highest until someone took it. This time it's quite off. |
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You guys have to start blocking nicehash re-rentals and IPS.
I've come across multiples that I could trace back to nicehash due to the difficulty requirement even on 'supposed' 14TH S9's, and
when renting larger PH+ rentals I can watch the fixed priced rental apparing on NH and following the hash rates on my pool at the same time.
Some of the recent rental owners that re-sell nicehash & westhash are :
LXP365
LPELLIS
If we could get large farms to list on our site, we would be more well off to block NH resales. As it stands, we always issue refunds to the renter for these resales regardless. Ahh, so what about the wasted money from the rentals then? They always claim BS reasons and that they don't resell NH to cover their arses, but renting from NH is a waste though as they can and do practice block withholding , so you never know if you actually hit a block but they cashed in on it or not on their network. |
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You guys have to start blocking nicehash re-rentals and IPS.
I've come across multiples that I could trace back to nicehash due to the difficulty requirement even on 'supposed' 14TH S9's, and
when renting larger PH+ rentals I can watch the fixed priced rental apparing on NH and following the hash rates on my pool at the same time.
Some of the recent rental owners that re-sell nicehash & westhash are :
LXP365
LPELLIS
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Where is it shipping from.
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I'm starting over from a clean backup of the wallet.dat file before I tried to recover it and mess with it on a new bitcoin installation and sync. Hopefully it'll work at least where I can get into it. I can't even open it now. Keepin' on truckin'... |
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**UPDATE**
I have struck a deal for an L3+ & PS from the seller.
Once it arrives and everything is good I will post in here for an update and trust addition.
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understand me correctly, but what you are trying to do is impossible at the moment, in my opinion, it is not allowed everywhere, and if it is forbidden, how will you attract investors, they will not invest money in it
Clueless, or a troll trying to spread FUD... Or both... |
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