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121  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: November 11, 2015, 07:59:22 PM
I was asking BitNow if he read the bible, not you. I know your thoughts on the bible. But BitNow believes in the Pope, and the Pope supposedly believes in the bible.

Quote from: MMH
Jesus was quite clear on needing to come through Him, no matter how much you want to deny it.

Anyway, I see that your interpretation of that Bible is like so:
 "God will take care of you. You need do nothing. You are not responsible. Christ is your Savior".

Actually, that is a BIG deception. I suggest you discern carefully.

Jesus was quite clear: He pleaded with you not to worship HIM--but that you shall love the Lord thy God...and to love your neighbor as yourself (providing of course, that you could love self).

Quote from: phoenixsourcedistributors.com/html/j032/
I said that I would intercede and petition on behalf of you who were ignorant of Truth that you might be shown mercy in your ignorance--I DID NOT POUR FORTH MY BLOOD NOR LIFE THAT YOU SHOULD GET FREE OF YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES. NO MAN CAN DO THAT FOR ANOTHER-- NO MAN! EACH WILL ANSWER FOR SELF-- ONLY SELF!
122  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: November 11, 2015, 07:38:47 PM
Have you read the bible?

I have only read some bits and pieces; many books are called "Bible", and none of them are completely valid. I see that your interpretation of that Bible is like so:
 "God will take care of you. You need do nothing. You are not responsible. Christ is your Savior".

Actually, that is a deception. The true meaning of what Jesus said is:

"Except through the Christed path of Godness shall ye enter into the Father's Kingdom--and I represented that LIGHT. It mattered not what label I bore as Man--but the Truth within MY BEING which marked the passage--the Christed passage."

Why do you not take "the kingdom of God is within you" into account as part of your theology? That phrase demonstrates that the "proof" of God's existence and "coming" will be revealed WITHIN YOU!

Have you read Phoenix Journal #32: I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE?

The only true reality is the inner reality, which is called LIFE, TRUTH, LIGHT. The Kingdom of God is a psychological state. It is not expected, it is present everywhere and nowhere. It is a state of beatitude which cannot be demonstrated by miracles or by scriptures, which offers no promise or reward, but is its own proof, its own miracle and reward.

Again, there are lies in that Bible and Paul's Doctrine is the worst lie of all:

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Did I do the things of which I stand accused? Like what? "He looked on them with anger," "He assailed them (him)," "He rebuked him," "He menaced him." And "Finding no fruit on a fig tree, I withered it with my curse that no man should eat fruit of it forever thereafter." And how about this one? "Those who do not do the will of the Father in heaven, "JESUS" WILL DENY AT THE LAST JUDGMENT!" Where are your EARS, friends? What right have I to even BE at YOUR judgment? Much less would I assume to DENY your entry into God's house. And why, indeed, would I destroy a fig tree when it was reasonable that it was out of season or barren? Could it be that MAN misled you and incorrectly projected the tale for your consumption? If they supposedly "crucified" me by the lie, is it not possible that a few other little errors might have slipped through? God gave YOU minds with which to reason, I remind you again and again until I hope you sicken of it.
123  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] Do tax rules apply when digital currency is used? on: November 11, 2015, 07:26:31 PM
It is NOT taxed if
1) you do not tell the authorities
2) you do not have your name connected to the addresses

My friend asked his tax accountant; the accountant was smart and asked my friend if his name was connected to any bitcoin wallets; my friend said "no" and the reply from the accountant was basically "I do NOT want to hear about your bitcoin".

He should fire that accountant immediately

Why? I am sure that the accountant saved my friend a lot of time and money!  Grin
124  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: November 11, 2015, 07:20:44 PM

In addition, it is not the behavior that saves. The work of Jesus on the cross, and His resurrection, is what saves. The closest that good behavior might come to saving is, absence of bad behavior will not gradually tear a person away from faith like bad behavior can.

Agreed. Smiley
Actually, this "Doctrine of Paul", that "The work of Jesus on the cross, and His resurrection, is what saves", is a BIG LIE.

Paul was, by any label, the most devoted enemy of Jesus and destroyed that which was established in the name of Christ--by any label of the day, then or now--that being was a deceiver and changed his name from Saul (of Tarsus) to Paul that he might fool the people into believing his resurrection in Truth. He did great service unto Man for you must come into discernment now, so that you can KNOW Truth from the WORD--WHICH IS GOD.

Quote from: phoenixsourcedistributors.com/html/j032/
Mine scribe, Druthea, watched with some amusement a "Christian" TV Minister on the yesterday. He was speaking about his perception of God's "Grace". He said words to the effect, "You need do NOTHING to receive God's Blessings and Grace". (Sounds a bit like the "just BE" philosophy of many New Agers, does it not?) "We humans believe we must "work" to earn God's Grace. This is NOT true. We must accept CHRIST as our Savior. HE has taken our burden for us." There is the catch; Christ has taken responsibility for YOU! Do you see how deceptive the adversary is? "God will take care of you. You need do nothing. You are not responsible. Christ is your Savior"...ad nauseam!

I am not YOUR savior. YOU are your Savior. And the good news is YOU will EARN your way into God's Grace by standing responsible for self and obeying THE LAWS OF GOD/CREATION. It is really so simple, chelas. You see, GRACE also is a wondrous quality of EFFORTLESS GIVING AND REGIVING BY GOD!
...
It comes down into your day that I resisted not anything--brothers, this is lie--I resisted and got myself killed for the effort. I was labeled as unable to struggle or had no "capability" for struggle and that is somehow set up as an ethical principle. All I can say in this regard in this particular paragraph is that you had better cease and desist such an illusion right now. This is part of the lie handed down to you in order to render you helpless and docile and totally without reasoning stance.

Each decade a NEW LIE is introduced unto you sleeping masses and repeated until it becomes your very illusion. There was no mention in the original writings of "Jews", Zionists, "Raptures", etc. How dare you think that you can dump your load of transgressions on the shoulders of any INNOCENT Man and you get off with some nice RAPTURE TO PARADISE? How dare you!

I said that I would intercede and petition on behalf of you who were ignorant of Truth that you might be shown mercy in your ignorance--I DID NOT POUR FORTH MY BLOOD NOR LIFE THAT YOU SHOULD GET FREE OF YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES. NO MAN CAN DO THAT FOR ANOTHER-- NO MAN! EACH WILL ANSWER FOR SELF-- ONLY SELF!

The only true reality is the inner reality, which is called LIFE, TRUTH, LIGHT. The Kingdom of God is a psychological state. It is not expected, it is present everywhere and nowhere. It is a state of beatitude which cannot be demonstrated by miracles or by scriptures, which offers no promise or reward, but is its own proof, its own miracle and reward. Its proofs are inner lights, feelings of pleasure and self-satisfaction--peace. The problem is, then: How shall you live in order to feel that you are in heaven or this state of grace, at all times divine, the child of God? For this sense of beatitude is the sole reality.
125  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: November 11, 2015, 07:14:22 PM
If you are a true follower of Christ, you will do what He did, you will become more Christ-like.
So, you are in agreement with me that you can be a Christian even without belief in a savior?

I know you don't believe He's our savior, but even you say we should become like Christ in our actions (the fruit of the spirit).

Well, not exactly; you see, Christ is not a name. Also, we should follow the example of Emmanuel (Jesus), but we definitely do NOT need to be martyrs; we should love one another, and that requires taking responsibility for your own awakening, it means directing ALL of your TRUST and FAITH toward GOD who exists within YOU. That is how we can realize spiritual fruit. I don't think it can be done by dumping your wicked actions upon another.

I don't believe we have to, in order to be saved. But if we are saved, we will exhibit these Christ-like behaviors.
Anyone can be deceived by appearances. For example, all of the orange trees around here yield fruit which is bitter and tastes nasty. Anyone can show love to their neighbor, but a good person must also have total desire to not make wrong choices during the journey unto home and Source.

What is demanded is a mode of being not an outward action, which merely follows from the being.

The essential is the obedience of Man's whole heart and being. God has written His law within the heart of Man and therefore it is only the remembering which is in contention. Man must cease lying unto self--that he remembers and knows not the law!

Faith is indispensable for admission to the Kingdom of Heaven. It is the prerequisite of salvation and it is itself salvation--for a man will-become that-which he visions and believes and in which his faith resides.

I healed the sick as I walked about the places of those ancient lands? Did I? No--through the faith of the bearer of spirit and faith--did the God within heal of self. I only knew the strength and unlimited ability of God within myself and within those believing ones. I said then and I say now, your faith makes you whole. I only gave the suggestion in the name of our Father/Creator that has again and again been used all over the world to banish or induce what appears to be "abnormal" phenomena. Only one who "believes" can experience such effects which are now familiar to your medical and psychological experience. But I did more than perform miracles by suggestion, dear ones. I forgave sins. I allowed the person in punishment of self to relieve his heart of the burden of punishment placed upon self and expressed in the deviation from perfection.

When it is stated that "your sins are forgiven you", it is then the "faith" of the forgiven who releases the burden through faith. The cure is present in order that men, seeing this power, may be convinced of God's power to forgive errors and thus, so can Man forgives self. This is why you must ask in truth and desire and it shall be given you; seek, and you shall be led into the finding; knock, and the way will be opened unto you.

But Man should accept all this as a gift, knowing that he has not somehow "deserved" it for when you shall have done all those things which are commanded you, you must recognize that you have only done that which was your duty.
126  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] Do tax rules apply when digital currency is used? on: November 11, 2015, 05:46:07 PM
It is NOT taxed if
1) you do not tell the authorities
2) you do not have your name connected to the addresses

My friend asked his tax accountant; the accountant was smart and asked my friend if his name was connected to any bitcoin wallets; my friend said "no" and the reply from the accountant was basically "I do NOT want to hear about your bitcoin".
127  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: November 11, 2015, 05:23:35 PM
Right, and in regards to religion, it is said that "faith is believing what you know ain't true".

People have said or written just about every short saying that can possibly be spoken or written. Why not express the rest? "Faith is believing what you don't know is true." There is a great difference in the meanings of these two expressions. The first is the expression of a liar. The second is the expression of an investigator.


How so, BADecker? Are you trying to tell me that if I have faith in Jesus as my savior, then I will become an investigator? It seems to me like I would be more prone to "sitting around waiting for the rapture", and there would be no reason to ask questions since I am already saved, what more could I *ask* for? Furthermore, since the world is wicked, do you not think we should effort at changing it instead of sitting around and waiting for its destruction?

Are you ALSO trying to tell me that if I have faith that one of these Bibles is the supreme WORD, coming directly from GOD, then I will become an investigator? It seems to me that by doing so, I would be more prone to shutting out all other knowledge and all other books that may have a divine origin, and by doing so I would fall into a trap of narrow-mindedness.

If you want to be an investigator, then ALL of your TRUST and FAITH must be directed toward GOD who exists within YOU. Therein will your freedom from the bondage of limited physical adversarial perception be earned. Did you read that clearly? YOU WILL EARN YOUR SPIRITUAL UNITY BY ACCESSING THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD WITHIN YOU. And your "proof" will be forthcoming through FAITH and the return of your free-will to God. For your "proof "of God's existence and "coming" will be revealed WITHIN YOU! FOR THERE IS WHERE EXISTS THE KINGDOM OF GOD…WITHIN YOU!!
Read more: http://phoenixsourcedistributors.com/html/j032/
128  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: November 11, 2015, 05:13:01 PM
If just one person can believe in a religion and not want to kill anyone, then blaming religion for murders is wrong and you need to start blaming the people not their religion for the killings.
Double-edged sword here.

If just one person does not believe in a religion and does a good deed, then it's the person that must get credit for the good deed, not the irreligion. Effectively making religion obsolete; well the good deed parts anyway.


That's why we test the fruits of the spirit, not the words of the mouth to find true Christ-followers.

How so, MMH? You have said that "Christians believe that Christ is savior", but that is "just a belief", it is just words of the mouth. To follow the example of Jesus is to yield spiritual fruit. But to attest that he is your savior is nothing but talk; by the way, he never ONCE suggested that he was your savior.
129  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: November 11, 2015, 04:44:56 PM
religion and atheism can do nothing ,its the top level guys always.
--image--

You can slay the dragon, and you can topple Bablyon; you can even move mountains.
You don't need a religion (belief) to be able to find God as a personal experience;
just be aware of your higher consciousness: "be still and know that I AM GOD".

one individual's revolution outweighs all revolutions in all of history
Religion fills the need of man's inquisitiveness to explain things. Religion is the answer to questions that cannot (or could not) be answered through scientific evidence (mainly in earlier times).

Right, and in regards to religion, it is said that "faith is believing what you know ain't true". Today, we have a popular religion called the "Modern Synthesis of Evolutionary Biology". Evolutionists have been making the creationist mistake of allowing their theoretical framework to ossify into dogma and Darwin’s venerable theory is now slowly, methodically being exposed as the charade it was from its inception. Darwin’s gradual evolution was and is a myth that became a religion. It is based on three gaps in reasoning for which there is no scientific evidence. The first fallacy is that life can spontaneously animate from organic material...
Read more: http://www.lloydpye.com/essay_interventiontheory.htm
130  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: November 11, 2015, 04:27:07 PM
Even science proves that God exists, and nature around us shows us a lot about HIS nature.

I think one can learn a lot from observing; any one can see the reality of rebirth (transformation) and karma (action-reaction) just by observing nature.
131  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: November 11, 2015, 03:29:16 PM
religion and atheism can do nothing ,its the top level guys always.


You can slay the dragon, and you can topple Bablyon; you can even move mountains.
You don't need a religion (belief) to be able to find God as a personal experience;
just be aware of your higher consciousness: "be still and know that I AM GOD".

one individual's revolution outweighs all revolutions in all of history
132  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Opinions about tetherUSD, coinoUSD, BitShares 2.0 and BitUSD? on: November 11, 2015, 06:05:27 AM
Sebastian, consider plain FIAT

Yeah, but it would suck holding that in an exchange.

You can store fiat at Uphold; it is the world's leading cloud-based money platform formerly known as BitReserve.
133  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Opinions about tetherUSD, coinoUSD, BitShares 2.0 and BitUSD? on: November 10, 2015, 10:54:20 PM
Why not use futures to protect against a fall in the bitcoin price?

Futures are very liquid and designed for hedging; I like to use 796 exchange where they have no fees to hedge and speculate.
In addition, you can typically sell the future at a price higher than the spot rate and make an arbitrage between spot and futures markets; all it takes to make a profit is the patience to hold until expiration and enough margin to protect yourself from volatility. There is sometimes a counterparty risk on the futures exchanges though.
134  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Opinions about tetherUSD, coinoUSD, BitShares 2.0 and BitUSD? on: November 10, 2015, 10:35:48 PM
Why not use futures to protect against a fall in the bitcoin price?
135  Economy / Lending / Re: Need - 0.0474BTC (Plan inside) on: November 09, 2015, 06:20:59 PM
I too have a good domain names and if you generate profit on my domain then i am ready to share 50% profit revenue with you. But i think this post is just a game post for asking loan.
He never got back to me with a proposal. How can OP just expect to be an entrepreneur without the ability to write a plan for his/her partners?
136  Other / Off-topic / Re: God is Reality on: November 09, 2015, 06:18:11 PM
@1aguar
I don't see the link to what your talking about.. to what i said about G. Price's research.
The fundamental theorem of natural selection (as explained by that Price Equation) has little to do with human behavior. Darwin’s gradual evolution was and is a myth that became a religion. You would have to be some kind of a religious believer (Darwinist?) if you think that math proves that love does not exist.
137  Other / Off-topic / Re: God eats low hanging fruit.. on: November 08, 2015, 07:17:42 PM
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Price developed a new interpretation of Fisher's fundamental theorem of natural selection, the Price equation, which has now been accepted as the best interpretation of a formerly enigmatic result.[7] He wrote what is still widely held to be the best mathematical, biological and evolutionary representation of altruism.

He proved with math that love does not exist !
Basically his formula states that any act of love is nothing but an act of altruism.

Colin Patterson, director of the British Museum of Natural History, stated: “No one has ever produced a species by mechanisms of natural selection. No one has gotten near it.”

Actually, for math to prove that love does not exist, you would first need to overcome these three gaps in your reasoning:
The first fallacy is that life can spontaneously animate from organic material.
The second fallacy is the gap that separates plant and animal life.
The third gap in knowledge is that between any species of animal or plant and any other species.

These three fallacies that Dawson complained about in 1873 remain as "knowledge gaps" today. Scientists know these limitations of evolutionary theory are true and will be enduring, but shamefully few have the nerve to address them openly.

Indeed, evolutionists have been making the creationist mistake of allowing their theoretical framework to ossify into dogma and Darwin’s venerable theory is now slowly, methodically being exposed as the charade it was from its inception.
Read more: http://www.lloydpye.com/essay_interventiontheory.htm
138  Other / Off-topic / Re: Tips on proper toilet usage on: November 06, 2015, 11:28:51 PM
You're Taking a Crap Wrong! This Is How You Poop Properly


You don't need a "poop-stool", just stand upon the toilet seat and squat.

http://medical-diagonosis.wonderhowto.com/how-to/health-alert-youre-taking-crap-wrong-is-you-poop-properly-0139696/
139  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: November 06, 2015, 09:01:52 PM
To be honest i don't believe in any immortal soul, Karma or Cosmic justice. I think That study is total BS. If you believe in any of those you are not an atheist
I would take it more seriously if they asked atheists and not agnostics
I do believe in karma because there is a significant weight of scientific evidence suggesting that consciousness is NOT produced by the brain.

I think it is likely you do not understand that NDEs are a medical anomaly.

If researchers could prove that clinically dead patients, with no electrical activity in their cortex, can be aware of events around them and form memories, this would suggest that the brain does not generate consciousness.

In the AWARE study, consciousness and awareness appeared to occur during a three-minute period when there was no heartbeat. This is paradoxical, since the brain typically ceases functioning within 20-30 seconds of the heart stopping and doesn’t resume again until the heart has been restarted.

Read more:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1237843.msg12899128#msg12899128
140  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: November 06, 2015, 07:39:01 PM
Evolutionary explanations of the origin of religion utterly fail to explain the totality of religious experience and belief.

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evidence from several disciplines indicates that what you actually believe is not a decision you make for yourself. Your fundamental beliefs are decided by much deeper levels of consciousness, and some may well be more or less set in stone.

This line of thought has led to some scientists claiming that "atheism is psychologically impossible because of the way humans think," says Graham Lawton, an avowed atheist himself, writing in the New Scientist. "They point to studies showing, for example, that even people who claim to be committed atheists tacitly hold religious beliefs, such as the existence of an immortal soul."

This shouldn't come as a surprise, since we are born believers, not atheists, scientists say. Humans are pattern-seekers from birth, with a belief in karma, or cosmic justice, as our default setting. "A slew of cognitive traits predisposes us to faith," writes Pascal Boyer in Nature, the science journal, adding that people "are only aware of some of their religious ideas".

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2014/08/evolutionary_st088461.html
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