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401  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: August 27, 2015, 08:44:27 AM
The reason I mention this is to place a different spin on traditional exploration. Instead of trying to "find" anything, why not instead recognize, in the most simple of terms, how we come to understand anything at all (i.e. the process by which we know) and see what that might tell us about reality instead?  Recognizing the self-evident truth that objective content and perception are logically inseparable has vast implications on reality in and of itself, and it can even tell us a hell of a lot about things that we haven't explored or don't know about yet.
The funny thing about perception is that it occurs in the mind, and from this lofty perch of conscious liberty, Man declares his right to ignore objective content seemingly "at will"...

Mind is the first and most direct thing in our experience (objective content). This makes memories the best, perhaps the only criterion of personal identity.
Source

By virtue of his reason, Man recognizes a thing with his mind; however, thinking is not an automatic function and the act of focusing one's consciousness is volitional; furthermore, No concept Man forms is valid unless he integrates it without contradiction into the total sum of his knowledge.
Source

"Thinking is man’s only basic virtue, from which all the others proceed. And his basic vice, the source of all his evils ... [is] the willful suspension of one’s consciousness, ... the refusal to know. It is the act of inducing an inner fog to escape the responsibility of judgment—on the unstated premise that a thing will not exist if only you refuse to identify it, ... Non-thinking is an act of annihilation, a wish to negate existence, an attempt to wipe out reality ... By refusing to say “It is,” you are refusing to say “I am.” By suspending your judgment, you are negating your person. When a man declares: “Who am I to know?” he is declaring: “Who am I to live?”"
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The problem of how we access our memories is one of the most difficult in psychology. Dr. Stevenson found that some child memories relate to a previous existence. This additional problem can only be solved by postulating the survival of some part of the mind beyond physical death. If there is no death of mind, then what is the source of mind?

"It is strong confirmation of any theory that proofs converging from many and varying classes of phenomena unite in establishing it".--The Hon. Robert Dale Owen

Now, consider the fact is that this Grandmother managed to write a 200-page book EVERY 3 WEEKS FOR YEARS, hundreds of books in total.  How was this prodigious output, covering such a wide range of topics, possible?  Please do not be too quick to reject the truthful answer, that she scribed DIRECTLY for our Heavenly Father, exactly as stated.  There probably has NEVER been a scribe so well connected — including all of the great ones acknowledged in all of the holy books.
Source for Phoenix Journals
402  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: August 26, 2015, 07:15:34 PM
Well, I DO believe God is necessary so I can't argue that one. The moral character of the average person is too weak to keep people in line without God.
The LAWS as set forth by GOD have always been present; Man has constantly re-written the Laws to suit his own desires.

And what about your own moral character with regards to recognizing the truth about the evidence for life after death?

To disdainfully dismiss any immaterial phenomenon, as skeptics do, actually betrays the scientific method.

Skeptics defend the necessity to keep science and religion in their own proper place. Why not try to see if the schism can be repaired?

The LAWS of GOD and Creation are logical in that they were set forth to maintain BALANCE within the Creation; you can find the details in Phoenix Journal #27. The details about Jesus are in Phoenix Journal #2 and in the Pleiades Connection volumes. Modern science explains a lot and keeps explaining more. But outside the fence one still perceives a host of inexplicable mysteries. The Phoenix Journals were written to give this planet the truth "from the horse's mouth"; with truth, you can become aware of the Father's will within you, then you can live in wisdom of knowledge, serve the will of God within, and resist the adversary. It's not like you have something to lose by learning the truth about your eternal soul and the Laws of God.

Print the pages of the Journals as paper emits considerably less EMF pollution than your computer!

Your MOST IMPORTANT commitment in service to GOD is to WISELY understand and obey THE LAWS OF GOD AND THE CREATION which we are unfolding for you here. This is THE excellent way for honoring self and GOD within ALL others in service to God and The Creation. Simply, UNDERSTAND AND OBEY THE LAWS OF GOD AND THE CREATION. You ones have made this commitment difficult unto yourselves and it needn't any longer be so. YOU NOW HAVE THE LAWS BEFORE YOU and you need not any longer claim ignorance or misunderstanding. DO YOU SEE?! Claim YOUR DIVINE HOLY GODNESS NOW! WE ARE ALL ONE! THE TIME IS NOW BEFORE YOU TO KNOW AND OWN THE TRUTH!

You don't need books to show you the way--but it undoubtedly helps as you come into understanding through the use of KNOWLEDGE.

There is no way to have a corner on TRUTH; we must SHARE if we are to turn this thing around. Only intelligent action will save this nation. Only truth will bring forth wisdom and righteousness.
403  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: August 26, 2015, 08:16:50 AM
relegion is inversly proportional to intelligence ,
people who  dont think or who are very superstitious will surely fall into this trap.

Be that as it may, I am asking atheists to be rational with regards to the evidence; in common parlance this means that one can think clearly and is capable of intelligently assessing new ideas when presented.
Life after death is not a metaphor--it is backed by 52 salient points of evidence.

Your "evidence" was written by a bunch of kooks on some obscure website. I don't believe them any more than I believe Jim Jones was God and I refuse to drink the kool aid.

You reply is... an ad hominem?! But that is totally irrational and prejudiced!
These researchers are not crazy. For example, Dr. Stevenson's research is well-known and highly regarded for its scientific rigor.
You want us to completely ignore the big questions, like whether there is life after death, because it suits your agenda; why else would you behave so irrationally when presented with this new idea? It is not like I am asking you to believe something without evidence.
 Cheesy
404  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: August 25, 2015, 08:41:17 PM
relegion is inversly proportional to intelligence ,
people who  dont think or who are very superstitious will surely fall into this trap.

Be that as it may, I am asking atheists to be rational with regards to the evidence; in common parlance this means that one can think clearly and is capable of intelligently assessing new ideas when presented.
Life after death is not a metaphor--it is backed by 52 salient points of evidence.
405  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: August 25, 2015, 07:55:30 PM
To me, the Spider-Man series of books and the God series of books are just make believe stories to entertain their intended audiences.

You made up a story about your "Christian friend" to entertain yourself and distract yourself from the 52 points of evidence I presented in the previous page. You would rather write down a clever fiction than actually discern something true; how convenient!

Reincarnation is considered by some to be the greatest "unknown" scientific discovery of modern times. Please review the scientific evidence which I have provided for your education; a summary of the 52 points is there in my posts on the previous page. There is no point for you to be in this thread if you cannot address the scientific evidence supporting the survival hypothesis. You think the soul is make-believe, but these 52 points of evidence show that you are wrong; I am not the one who is telling made-up stories in this thread.

"How can you make denial of Allah, who made you live again when you died, will make you dead again, and then alive again, until you finally return to him?" - the Koran [2.28]
406  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: August 25, 2015, 07:28:29 AM
I'm surprised Christians claim to know so much about souls... if I remember correctly the Bible only mentions souls and the afterlife in a very vague way - something about wailing and grinding of teeth, chaff getting burned, be with me in the kingdom of God etc.

A lot of material relating to reincarnation was removed from the Bible.

You can still find some parts of the Bible that clearly reference rebirth; here is a helpful reference:
http://www.near-death.com/reincarnation/history/bible.html

You can find extensive detail about life and death in the eight-volume Pleiades Connection series of Phoenix Journals (Journals #22 and #31-37); available here:
http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/
407  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: August 25, 2015, 07:07:13 AM
No, I don't believe in God or souls.

OK, I got it; now, kindly shut up until you can address the evidence that has been posted on the previous page.  Wink
408  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: August 25, 2015, 05:20:55 AM
My Christian friend believes neither of them have a soul because they're abominations born from a sinner that had sex with a jackel. Who's right?

Keked... is this a joke or real?

It is a joke; QA does not believe in souls, or else he would believe in God.

QA is making harsh judgments against his perceived enemy, but I would ask him: "What have your harsh judgments done for you lately?"

This quote is from Einstein; ask yourself where YOU are with respect to what is being said here:
409  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: August 25, 2015, 05:00:39 AM
I'm still waiting for someone to direct me to the peer reviewed scientific journal where this is published. If it is not, then it is simply not science. Scientific research is not conducted by basement dwellers at some public forums.

If there were actual science involved it would be published...
Atheists like RodeoX would rather have us ignore the big questions because the evidence is against them.

What evidence? Again, I haven't a clue what is being argued.You should write up your findings, prove your conclusions, then let other scientists run there own experiments to prove or disprove your theory.
OK, here is a summary to get you started:

One can run (further) experiments and investigations, or one can realize that the evidence (52 salient points) already merits a conclusion, and that a discovery is at hand.

Because there already exists a substantial amount of anecdotal evidence supporting veridical perception [during a "Near-Death Experience"], it may only be a matter of time before hard, scientific evidence of an afterlife is found.

The link to the 52 salient points is on this page of the thread, 2 posts before your first reply. I have made a deduction that God exists based on accepting the survival hypothesis which is strongly evidenced by those 52 salient points.

For example, Dr. Stevenson's conclusions have been confirmed in replication studies (#39); anyone can replicate his work. Many other scientific studies are cited. Reincarnation has been called by some to be the greatest unknown scientific discovery today.

According to recent studies, only about 10% of people are conscious shortly before their death. Of this group, 50% to 67% have Death Bed Visions. This universal anomalous phenomena strongly supports the survival hypothesis just like veridical perception in NDE.

Even more importantly: Skeptical arguments against NDEs are not valid (#34-36, and others). NDEs support the reality of rebirth (#38).

It simply will not do to reject qualitative observations (#36). Many lines of evidence unite in supporting the reality of rebirth (#37).

From the recent AWARE study:
One case was validated and timed using auditory stimuli during cardiac arrest... [C]onsciousness and awareness appeared to occur during a three-minute period when there was no heartbeat. This is paradoxical, since the brain typically ceases functioning within 20-30 seconds of the heart stopping and doesn’t resume again until the heart has been restarted. Furthermore, the detailed recollections of visual awareness in this case were consistent with verified events.

“Thus, while it was not possible to absolutely prove the reality or meaning of patients’ experiences and claims of awareness, (due to the very low incidence (2 per cent) of explicit recall of visual awareness or so called OBE’s), it was impossible to disclaim them either and more work is needed in this area. Clearly, the recalled experience surrounding death now merits further genuine investigation without prejudice.”
410  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: August 21, 2015, 06:23:12 PM
I'm still waiting for someone to direct me to the peer reviewed scientific journal where this is published. If it is not, then it is simply not science. Scientific research is not conducted by basement dwellers at some public forums.

If there were actual science involved it would be published, reviewed the world over, the experiments would be recreated and tested, experts in their fields would try additional experiments. And no, the guy at Bible camp is not an expert in science. Indeed he must reject science to keep the whole house of cards from falling.  
Atheists like RodeoX would rather have us ignore the big questions because the evidence is against them.
By ignoring qualitative observations, atheists reject rationality and mountains of observed evidence (52 salient points);
this ignorant behavior is not intellectual honesty, it is a façade (or "house of cards")!

Although the available veridical NDE evidence does not constitute scientific proof of consciousness surviving bodily death,
it does qualify as very powerful circumstantial and anecdotal evidence, the kind of evidence that is upheld every day in courts of law all around the country.
Whether or not there will ever be scientific evidence for the survival of consciousness
may depend upon science itself and how such phenomenon as NDEs can be quantified.
Using the strict demands of science, we can only conclude as Dr. Raymond Moody does when he had this to say:

"I don't have any idea whether there's life after death or not. I've been a follower of science all of my life, but I also have a Ph.D. in philosophy, and it really seems to me that the question of life after death is not yet ripe for scientific inquiry because it's not formulatable in a way that fits into the scientific method. I also think it's the most important question. If you think of the big questions of existence, this is the biggie."
411  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: August 21, 2015, 04:49:34 AM
There are a lot of great scientists who say that they were able to believe more in God when they began to study science. They were amazed at the world around them when they were studying various parts of the world. But most people think this is not true. They think that science needs to be separate from religion, but in fact these two things can work together well and should be studied and enjoyed together. They are not the enemies and some of the best scientists in the world, even those who were completely against God to start with, become very religious after they began to study more.

Yes, it's true; many in science have derived inspiration from religion and spirituality. Moreover, many atheists changed their perspective after having a transcendental experience called NDE, they became more open to the possibility of life after death.

Here is a list of famous scientists and what they said about God; it may be surprising to see so many rational thinkers converge on the same concept.
412  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Devastation on: August 20, 2015, 06:51:04 AM
1. Most of the debt is owed to the people (e.g. entitlements), so the people can discharge the debt and then there is no need to postpone the settlement.

2. My proposal does not lack such an appeal, it is just that you have not looked into the lawful money which is referenced in 12 USC 411 and supported in other citations of US Federal law (as described in links already posted).
Kindly read the links and study this subject in detail, for therein is contained the remedy for this whole situation. I will link you to my first post in this thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355212.msg12109249#msg12109249

1. In which case, they would not receive the capital they otherwise would.

2. A law code does not enforce itself. (E.g., the steele whereupon the Code of Hammurabi was inscribed did not, itself, physically beat the violators of that law code.)

1. Not so; like any other debt, an entitlement can be discharged by release of the people's credits back to the debt-issuer via indorsement, alongside the acquisition of that debt which is effectuated as an exchange or set-off for the credits so released; for details, see the banking flow chart in the HJR 192 folder which is referenced in this link from the same blog.
For more details, contact me in private; this is a work in progress, but I am NOT the only one.
Another example: If you have already made "payment" on a debt with a debt note, then you can retrieve that "debt-payment" after discharging the initial debt by simply claiming it back via the tax collection agency. Then, you simply "re-process" the claimed payment and endorse it for discharge again.

2. Correct; it is the gov that enforces the law. The US gov is required to uphold the law of war (usufruct) in any emergency. The people set up a Constitution for the US gov (corporation) so that they could control the gov; the gov cannot work outside of that law (charter), so it must enforce that law. As long as you are classified as an "enemy" (debtor), you will not have any rights in the conqueror's State of Emergency, but when you stand in the right capacity and stand with the truth, then you can assert your remedy and have it enforced by the de jure (lawful) authorities.
A great history review of these matters is found here, see the front-page story: http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/950307.pdf
413  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Devastation on: August 20, 2015, 04:58:40 AM
What are you asserting?

It is far from obvious to me...

I wanted to inform the readers of this thread about remedy...

I doubt that you were aware that a debt can be discharged by an individual who has the knowledge.

I would prefer if your replies to my posts would reference what I am saying directly and show how it applies (or not) to what you say. Otherwise, there is no way for me to see what you are asserting.

Again, I am proposing a remedy/solution to this issue, i.e. lawful money; what exactly are you asserting... and how does it relate to what I said?

(Though it makes the quick review of these posts tedious, the entirety of your post has been cited.)


1. A government can pay its loan(s) with (an)other loan(s) (essentially, postponing the settlement thereof ad infinitum).

2. Since government enforces law, the enforcement of law necessarily entails an appeal to government. Since your proposal seems to lack such an appeal, there is no (at least, standard) reason to anticipate the compliance of government with the enforcement of the special "lawful[ness]" (1aguar) of your "lawful money" (1aguar).

1. Most of the debt is owed to the people (e.g. entitlements), so the people can discharge the debt and then there is no need to postpone the settlement.

2. My proposal does not lack such an appeal, it is just that you have not looked into the lawful money which is referenced in 12 USC 411 and supported in other citations of US Federal law (as described in links already posted).
Kindly read the links and study this subject in detail, for therein is contained the remedy for this whole situation. I will link you to my first post in this thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355212.msg12109249#msg12109249
414  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Devastation on: August 20, 2015, 03:44:42 AM
What are you asserting?

It is far from obvious to me...

I wanted to inform the readers of this thread about remedy...

I doubt that you were aware that a debt can be discharged by an individual who has the knowledge.

I would prefer if your replies to my posts would reference what I am saying directly and show how it applies (or not) to what you say. Otherwise, there is no way for me to see what you are asserting.

Again, I am proposing a remedy/solution to this issue, i.e. lawful money; what exactly are you asserting... and how does it relate to what I said?
415  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Devastation on: August 20, 2015, 03:30:55 AM
What are you asserting?

The post contends that "that is . . . a payment and discharge of the debt" (1aguar).

You have misquoted me.
I asserted that a note (debt) is NOT a payment and discharge of the debt.
Payment and discharge (of debt) cannot be accomplished by a note (a debt).
A POSITIVE CANNOT CANCEL OUT ANOTHER POSITIVE.
Only by realizing your creditor status can you discharge a debt.
I have knowledge and resources standing by for those inquiring on how to more-fully effectuate the remedies on the iuvdeposit website.
416  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Devastation on: August 19, 2015, 02:12:55 AM
(Note: the post cited below is reproduced with the egregious misquote, original thereto, corrected.)

This is all to say that you cannot cancel out a debt with another debt; you cannot make payment on a debt with a promise to pay (bank note); that is not a payment and discharge of the debt.
Demand lawful money and full discharge, and start utilizing the alternative currency that is in place. See my earlier posts here.
(Colorization mine.)


Quote from: Peaceful Revolution Network link=http://www.xat.org/xat/moneyhistory.html
The 50 years of war left England in financial ruin. The government officials went begging for loans from guess who, and the deal proposed resulted in a government sanctioned, privately owned bank which could produce money from nothing, essentially legally counterfeiting a national currency for private gain.

Now the politicians had a source from which to borrow all the money they wanted to borrow, and the debt created was secured against public taxes.

You would think someone would have seen through this, and realised they could produce their own money and owe no interest, but instead the Bank of England has been used as a model and now nearly every nation has a Central Bank with fractional reserve banking at its core.

These central banks have the power to take over a nations economy and become that nations real governing force. What we have here is a scam of mammoth proportions covering what is actually a hidden tax, being collected by private concerns.

The country sells bonds to the bank in return for money it cannot raise in taxes. The bonds are paid for by money produced from thin air. The government pays interest on the money it borrowed by borrowing more money in the same way. There is no way this debt can ever be paid, it has and will continue to increase.

If the government did find a way to pay off the debt, the result would be that there would be no bonds to back the currency, so to pay the debt would be to kill the currency.
(Red colorization mine.)

“Tax revenue” is a form of collateral for the loans provided to governments by central banks.
(Blue colorization added.)

In the US, the people are the gold that backs the currency, and the currency is the signature.
By using an endorsement before the signature and on the face of the bill, you can qualify the instrument being negotiated.
For example, discharging bills (which are really credit vouchers in disguise) and receiving your pay in tax-free notes.
In the US, it is only a presumption that the people are debtors; they are really the creditors but too few are asserting their rights!

I assert that there is a remedy, that you can use the lawful currency that already "circulates" debt-free and tax-free, and in this way reduce the national debt.

What are you asserting?
417  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Devastation on: August 18, 2015, 10:41:38 PM
This is all to say that you cannot cancel out a debt with another debt; you cannot make payment on a debt with a promise to pay (bank note); that is not a payment and discharge of the debt.
Demand lawful money and full discharge, and start utilizing the alternative currency that is in place. See my earlier posts here.
(Colorization mine.)


Quote from: Peaceful Revolution Network link=http://www.xat.org/xat/moneyhistory.html
There is no way this debt can ever be paid, it has and will continue to increase.

If the government did find a way to pay off the debt, the result would be that there would be no bonds to back the currency, so to pay the debt would be to kill the currency.
(Red colorization mine.)

“Tax revenue” is a form of collateral for the loans provided to governments by central banks.
(Blue colorization added.)

In the US, the people are the gold that backs the currency, and the currency is the signature.
By using an endorsement before the signature and on the face of the bill, you can qualify the instrument being negotiated.
For example, discharging bills (which are really credit vouchers in disguise) and receiving your pay in tax-free notes.
In the US, it is only a presumption that the people are debtors; they are really the creditors but too few are asserting their rights!
418  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The road to the End of Religion: How sex will kill God on: August 18, 2015, 05:25:48 PM
Holding us back from what?
The end of violence.

You are proposing a way to end violence?
No humanist (Marxist) ethics will support your cause in practice;
all morals are relative in your (humanist) philosophy, therefore anyone may choose to do any violence at any time and for any reason with complete self-justification.

After all, man is the guarantor of knowledge in your view, so you have apparently determined that you can know for yourself that your ethical philosophy is correct, without having to address the evidence that I provided for all to see.
Apparently, you have judged that having plenty of sex for selfish reasons of physical pleasure is what Man needs to be fulfilled.
You do not honor Man beyond the level of an animal, and you do not recognize that Man has a soul.
Nonetheless, I have rebutted the humanist ethical worldview with hard evidence about the afterlife, and I would appreciate your kind response to the same as this discovery definitely changes the ethical landscape.

"Dropping below the level of a savage, who believes that the magic words he utters have the power to alter reality, they believe that reality can be altered by the power of the words they do not utter—and their magic tool is the blank-out, the pretense that nothing can come into existence past the voodoo of their refusal to identify it." --Ayn Rand
419  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Devastation on: August 18, 2015, 05:09:11 PM
(In light of the posts above, a psychology review seems in order.)

Quote
According to multiple, peer-reviewed studies, simply being in an open network instead of a closed one is the best predictor of career success.
...
In fact, the study shows that half of the predicted difference in career success (i.e., promotion, compensation, industry recognition) is due to this one variable.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelsimmons/2015/01/15/this-is-the-1-predictor-of-career-success-according-to-network-science/


While the basic social pyramid systems are now governments ENFORCING FRAUDS by privately controlled banks, the publicly significant opposition to that continues to mostly be controlled, although they may not understand that, due to the languages and philosophies that they continue to use to think with and communicate through.

civilization is necessarily operating according to the principles and methods of organized crime, due to the death control systems being the central core of all other systems.

In extremely profound ways, our civilization is based upon deliberately ignoring the principle of the conservation of energy as much as possible, while understanding the concept of entropy in the most absurdly backward ways possible, BECAUSE THAT WAS WHAT WAS SOCIALLY NECESSARY TO ENABLE ENFORCED FRAUDS TO CONTINUE WORKING!

This is all to say that you cannot cancel out a debt with another debt; you cannot make payment on a debt with a promise to pay (bank note); that is not a payment and discharge of the debt.
Demand lawful money and full discharge, and start utilizing the alternative currency that is in place. See my earlier posts here.
420  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Devastation on: August 16, 2015, 06:22:48 PM
Since what other (financial) merit can a person have other than run a succesful business and become rich?

Already having substantive quantities of capital (or the rhetoric [and/or violence] to convince others to ensure the person does).

What you are really talking about here is "accessing your own value". We can save america without rhetoric or violence, it just takes the knowledge to see what exactly has happened to the money system, and to consider that no one can (lawfully) force you to use the debt-money system, so there must be an alternative!

Those of us in the US may have a solution...

It is called "a new currency"!

https://iuvdeposit.wordpress.com/2014/03/10/indorsed-bill-remedy/
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