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41  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io is a blatant scam operated by Dean Nolan on: November 08, 2020, 10:24:21 PM
Dean's name/reputation is in tatters due to his child-like reactions to criticism and dodging important questions regarding where ICO funds went and providing *proof* that bankroll funds were actually hacked/stolen - something I still find extremely hard to believe.

It's worth mention that prior to him being hacked, things were on a massive downward spiral He made bizarre lies, like he had pirated bustabit's game (he didn't even try to hide it, so even the comments were character for character identical) and wouldn't pay the license fee (which was only 2 btc, iirc). He then had the audacity to blame me, even though I was supposedly his friend. All because I told him "well if no one notices, you can get away with it" (or something close to it). He then took it down for a couple days, and put it back and claimed he had just rewrote the whole thing (even though it was blindly obvious all he did was run it through a js minifier). After that he was kicked out of the Crypto-Gambling-Foundation.  And mean while he had locked the value of his ICO tokens to the price of bitcoin, and the *second* it moved against him, he just totally reneged. He was happy to make hundreds of thousands when it moved in his favor, but not take a dollar of loss the other way. And then as you note, he literally had zero volume after word spread .... and then opened up "bankroll investing" (even though raising money for the bankroll was part of the ICO plan) and then *poof* it got "hacked" lmao.

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Dean's only chance would be to transfer control of Betking to someone reputable and skilled, and work on the backend. He'll never run a successful dice site on his own again.
Hm? Betking name literally is of negative value. I can't imagine why any sane person would ever get involved with Dean, or play at a site he was involved in.

Absolutely amazing Smiley
Every single part of your post is a lie. How do you manage it? lol

I wasn't kicked out the CGF, I took if off the site because people in that group took your lies as truth and I thought fuck that. Everyone knows I even have affiliate partnership with them for the past 6 months so you are just plain wrong again.

JS minifier, same comments? I have the full source still of the rewrite I could release and show that it is different, but I might decide to use it again so I won't.

I didn't pay for the licence because I wasn't told I had to, you know this.

The tokens were never locked to the price of btc pmsl, the price was always in $ and when btc dropped to 3k the bkb price did not drop. Any investor could show you this. Even simple forum search could prove you wrong here.

Anyway, you can all say what you want. The point of my post was merely documentation to show that the site is going to open and will refund investor losses. I don't need players or investors from here. I will get players to the site regardless of what you all post and you know that.

 
42  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io Relaunch on: November 08, 2020, 12:53:49 PM
I know this is a "what if"  question but what happens if the website got hacked again similar to what happened in 2019? how will you pay the new investors then? and what precautions are you going to take in order a hack never happened again on your website? I know questions are pretty generic but it is important. no offence but to be honest I would advise people to avoid your website with all of this uncertainty.

Very good question.

BetKing pre ICO was coded by myself.

After the ICO we hired a number of developers. When developing an update (for eos token support) a bug was introduced by one of the other developers that allowed people to gain access to their server seed and predict the bet results.

This was fixed, and the fix was shown to investors at the time, though it was too late by then.

This new version is again coded by myself only and there won't be any issue with this. No code from any other person will be on the site at all.

The investors who are funding this already know all this and that is why they are even investing at all.

There will obviously be more monitoring (automated and manual) and frequent auditing to make sure there are no other issues but that specific bug that caused the hack before will not be possible.
43  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io Relaunch on: November 08, 2020, 12:05:03 PM
As stated in the original post, 100% of site profit will be used for refunds. I won't make s single sat until all investors are refunded in full

So what will be earned by your investors (those who invest in your public bankroll once you relaunch it) if all profit will be used for refunds? So in other words you are trying to get new investors with no chances to earn from what they invest till all past investors are refunded? Long term purpose is indeed good for the house but still there is no guarantee that you will make good profit to refund old investors especially due to your current reputation that will make gamblers worries to spend their money on your site. It makes your chance to get profit is low compared to other normal site with neutral reputation.

OK so it seems there's some confusion there.

The way the site works, as any public investment site, is player losses go to the bankroll investors THEN the site takes a commission as the site profit.
This commission is what will be used to refund old investor losses.

So new investors won't be screwed here. The site works as normal for them.
But instead of me taking the commission I will be refunding old losses with it.
So you should read then as "All My Profit"

Also keep in mind I am not even trying to get new investors. I have investors. This is just an option so that IF we do get new investment then we can cater to highrollers.


44  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io is a blatant scam operated by Dean Nolan on: November 08, 2020, 10:22:33 AM
The serial scammer Dean Nolan is using his self-moderated thread to suppress views he disagrees with because they list the scams that he carried out using his betking website.

He has already deleted 4 posts from 4 users that had 5 merits:



WARNING: Investors and game players need to stay well away from serial scammer Dean Nolan otherwise they will end up having their crypto stolen



Haha I also do not think that. That would not be a smart choice if it. But it seems he is back with a new site again. Thanks for warning, Jollygood.

I can see you missed me Smiley

omg i cant believe this. this guy is totally heartless. after scamming people of millions of dollars, he is coming back to scam more. the annoying thing is that more idiots will fall for it

He has claimed recently that he will refund the loses of the people. I don't believe his single word because if he was right he would not have started a self - moderated thread. He is back in business to scam more money from people.  Sad

As I have always said that I would refund the losses, I have decided that 100% of the commission the new BetKing site makes will be used to first refund the old bankroll losses and then the ICO losses.

I won't make any money until that is done.

I don't think that is anything an actual scammer would be doing.


Actually it's just to delete posts form these clowns, there's still lots of warnings left from other users. Just not jollygood, loyce, richgang etc since they are just liars
45  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io Relaunch on: November 08, 2020, 09:42:50 AM
It would have been better if you fully refunded all those who lost money before starting over again or those who aren't willing investors. Some gambling platforms like Betnomi managed to reversed the negative feedback about them and actually attracted a lot of players (from what I see) but your issue is way worse than them. Best of luck.

That is great of Betnomi but we are just not in the situation where that is possible right now. If I had Bitcoin to refund everyone I would.

I have managed to pay back around $100,000 in the past 6 months hence why the investors are willing to invest again.

But since I can't just refund all myself right now I think taking the approach as some other sites, like ethercrash recently did when they were hacked last week, is by paying back with commission is the best we can do right now.


For now you don't have the money to refund everyone who have lost their money. But what if you made a successful comeback, earn a good profits, what is your plan then? are you still going to pay back those who have lost?

Good luck though, we all know that gamblers here and investors doesn't forgot about how such a big ICO's back then lose everything including investors money, so the question of 'trust' is always there.

Thanks

As stated in the original post, 100% of site profit will be used for refunds. I won't make s single sat until all investors are refunded in full
46  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io Relaunch on: November 07, 2020, 06:28:59 PM
It would have been better if you fully refunded all those who lost money before starting over again or those who aren't willing investors. Some gambling platforms like Betnomi managed to reversed the negative feedback about them and actually attracted a lot of players (from what I see) but your issue is way worse than them. Best of luck.

That is great of Betnomi but we are just not in the situation where that is possible right now. If I had Bitcoin to refund everyone I would.

I have managed to pay back around $100,000 in the past 6 months hence why the investors are willing to invest again.

But since I can't just refund all myself right now I think taking the approach as some other sites, like ethercrash recently did when they were hacked last week, is by paying back with commission is the best we can do right now.

47  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io Relaunch on: November 07, 2020, 04:35:46 PM
Is there any assurance that there's a lot of player that will be playing on your website? Also you have previous accusations and problems with investors do you think the new investors would also think that this may happen to them also and in result they will not be going to invest to the bankroll.

Good points

First off, we are not needing or looking for new investors. It's just an option for people who want to use it. I already mentioned we will have a small group of investors who will put up a large enough bankroll to cover bets and pay winnings for almost all players, we just won't have limits attractive to highrollers.

It's also worth mentioning that the people who are investing, some are also people who lost in the old bankroll hack. So that should show you how they feel about the whole situation, how they have felt about the amounts I have refunded so far and how I am trying to handle it.

As said, all actual investors who were effected by the hack, I am in contact with and none of them are the people who have left red trust or posted accusations in the forum.

As for players. Well yes that will be difficult to gain everyone's trust too. However even just today old BetKing players have emailed me asking if I plan to re-open. I get emails like that now and again. So there are old players who look like they will return.
Remember too that very few people lost money, no players. There are less than 20 people left to refund from the bankroll hack.

So in summary, we are not looking to attract new investment, it's there just as an option in case people do want to and that can then allow bigger bets.
We also think enough old players will return to make it worth our time and also provide enough volume that sees investors refunded.
48  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io Relaunch on: November 07, 2020, 02:05:41 PM
We will have a public bankroll that anyone can invest in.

What if no people will invest in it?
Then how gonna you pay the Winners at the site?
Or you will just simply stole their money as you did before with your investors?

If you don't have funds to pay to the winners, then how will you clear your past debts?
Yes i can see that you have a good and positive intention of coming back into the Gambling industry, but i am only concerning about the payouts of Gamblers/betters that you need to pay them when they will win bets at the site.



Good question, except the totally unnecessary claim that we have stole or would steal, regardless I'll answer anyway.

We have a couple of investors who will seed the bankroll. This will be a small amount but will be enough to cover 80% of player types bets. So there will be no problem paying out any winner at all on the site.
We just won't have big highrollers unless others decide to invest.
49  Economy / Gambling / BetKing.io Relaunch on: November 07, 2020, 01:01:05 PM
BetKing.io will relaunch before the end of the year.

After closing around one year ago we have decided to re-open and will be going back to the original dice site style that made BetKing the biggest and most popular dice site.

We will have a public bankroll that anyone can invest in. Public chat room for the community and a nice reward system for loyal and new players.

Look forward to seeing you on betking.io soon Smiley



Addressing the red trust and scam accusations:

We had an ICO in 2017 that eventually ended up losing investors money (< $2mm out of $6mm raised).

We also had a hack in 2019 that saw bankroll investors lose funds too.

A lot has been written about both of these incidents and a lot of false information is posted on these forums by people who don't know the full story, who were not investors and who did not lose any funds.

It eventually forced us to close with almost no way to refund investor losses.

However I have decided that no matter what is posted about me or the site, it is better that the site is up and running with the possibility of some refunds for investors than not at all.

The fact is, I have spoke with almost everyone who was effected and have managed to make small refunds and payments to them in the past 6 months through earnings and deals in other ventures.

As I have always said that I would refund the losses, I have decided that 100% of the commission the new BetKing site makes will be used to first refund the old bankroll losses and then the ICO losses.

I won't make any money until that is done.

I don't think that is anything an actual scammer would be doing.









50  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io is Closed. Balance recovery + BKT/BKB buyback plan. on: July 31, 2020, 03:06:48 PM
For anyone subscribed to this that doesn't get emails.

Since the last post in April there has been over $75,000 refunded to players and bankroll investors who had funds on the site when we closed and a couple of people who have had some BKB tokens refunded.

This has been done mainly from the Bitsler deal, casino affiliates and poker app club affiliates.

Still a long way to go to make everyone whole again but it's a good start and things are moving faster now.

Hopefully with the new projects and investment I have I will be able to refund everyone else a lot faster.

Will post another update when there's more good news.



51  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io Refunds - Partnership with Bitsler on: June 01, 2020, 08:24:44 AM
The Bitsler partnership promotion has now ended.

It was great to work with Bitsler on this.

Bitsler were refunding up to $200 to all 250 BetKing accounts that had a balance on site when we closed after the hack in 2019.

230 accounts received a full refund of their balance*.

Bitsler also gave extra bonuses totalling almost $20,000 to most accounts that had a balance over $200.

This leaves only 20 accounts waiting for a complete refund, 10 of which are now invested in a new project that will provide a full refund to these 20 accounts.

The https://betking.io domain is also now an affiliate portal to some of the top BItcoin casinos, including Bitsler.
All affiliate commission from these links is being used to refund the accounts mentioned above and after that buy back remaining BKB tokens.

Thanks again to Bitsler and to all players and investors who have been supportive during this process.


* There were a few accounts with balances under $200 who never responded to any emails over the past 6 months or to telegram, twitter or other social posts. These balances were forfeit after having more than a fair amount of time and attempts to refund them.
52  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io Refunds - Partnership with Bitsler on: May 03, 2020, 06:15:52 PM
Refunds available for all players and bankroll investors who had a balance on site when we closed.

Check https://betking.io for details.

Still a couple of accounts not getting the emails. Or getting them and not replying.
Check your spam folder.
53  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io is a blatant scam operated by Dean Nolan on: April 28, 2020, 07:35:15 PM
Posting here for anyone who gets subscriber notifications on this post who I can't reach via email (check your spam folder)

BetKing has partnered with Bitsler to refund all accounts that had a balance when we closed in 2019 up to $200.

Full details in this thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5241045.msg54234726
54  Economy / Gambling / Re: BETKING & DEAN NOLAN: Disastrous Reputation! Read This Reddit Post. on: April 28, 2020, 08:04:11 AM
Damn, Dean, you were always kind of cool back in the day. I still remember when I found your site back in 2012-13. But I watched as your greed took over when you had an opportunity to legitimately enter the dice market, and it has been a further downward spiral morally ever since. Wish I could say I was surprised.  Sad

And here's the problem with this forum, read a thread title from an idiot and believe it as fact.

Also what do you mean a chance to enter the dice market? I ran the most popular and most profitable dice site for 2 years straight and that's an easily verifiable fact.
55  Economy / Gambling / Re: BETKING & DEAN NOLAN: Disastrous Reputation! Read This Reddit Post. on: April 27, 2020, 06:20:13 PM
you *DO* owe it to the community to give a detailed explanation - with proof - of what happened.

I owe this forum fuck all.
This forum has caused me to lose millions of $ and destroyed my reputation (probably the 2nd most trusted person in this community at one point after dooglus).

Where was the community defending me and BetKing BEFORE anything happened when JollyGood was claiming the site was a scam for almost a year before there was even a problem?
Where were the token holders who managed to sell all their tokens for profit defending me?
Where were all the old BetKing bankroll investors, who made millions because of me, pointing out how obvious it was that jolly good was talking shit?

It was me left defending myself every single day. You can check my post history, I posted replies to all this shit for years non stop until it just became pointless.
No one would even believe anything I wrote. We just lost more and more players because of it.

No help from players, no token holders, no investors, no ex investors posted once to say he was wrong and the site was legit.

They all just believed his lies and even spread them themselves too.

Somehow I even got punished for being honest with investors. 

Investors are lucky I care about my name and that I'm a good person because this would be the easiest situation in the world to just say fuck it and not bother. They lost money investing ffs, what ceo would refund them? None.
Half them don't deserve it anyway after what they put me through.

So again, I owe you fuck all and I'll be off of here come June 1st when the final Bitsler refunds are done.
56  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io Refunds - Partnership with Bitsler on: April 26, 2020, 03:12:29 PM
Still a few people who have not claimed yet. Check your spam folders or check betking.io for refund details.
All refunds must be claimed before June 1st.

Also not, this is only for people who had a balance on the site when we closed. We've already had to delete over 60 emails from people trying to get free money  Grin
57  Economy / Gambling / Re: BETKING & DEAN NOLAN: Disastrous Reputation! Read This Reddit Post. on: April 26, 2020, 01:08:24 PM
This should be easy to answer and prove for Dean. Why he wouldn't if he's innocent is beyond comprehension.

I'll say this one last time. I am due no explanation to anyone in here. There are no investors or players affected asking and you all proved there's no point in replying since I asked:


Anyway. I've got one question for you and jollygood.

If I manage to refund all the balances that were on BetKing when it closed from my own funds I make in my new business AND buy back the remaining token balances, will you still be calling me a scammer and leaving neative trust on my profile?

And got the reply


I probably wouldn't


So clearly there's no point in me wasting any more time on this forum trying to convince otherwise since you all will still label me a scammer even if everyone is paid back in full (which I'm still going to do).

I will only post in the BK thread when there's more refunds. Not going to feed trolls or waste time any more. Got shit to do and support from the people that matter.
58  Economy / Gambling / Re: BETKING & DEAN NOLAN: Disastrous Reputation! Read This Reddit Post. on: April 24, 2020, 09:10:34 PM
If I manage to refund all the balances that were on BetKing when it closed from my own funds I make in my new business AND buy back the remaining token balances, will you still be calling me a scammer and leaving neative trust on my profile?

I probably wouldn't, unless I had reason to believe the only reason you scammed people in the first place was for some noble higher purpose (e.g. you had to use the money to pay for some multi-million dollar swiss cancer treatment for a family member, or something).

Don't get me wrong, paying everyone back would be an amazing development and I really hope you do. But it wouldn't change what you did, nor fix a huge amount of harm (e.g. after you reneged on your promised token buy-back, you made them virtually worthless and people sold them for cents on the dollar. Buying them back now wouldn't do much to help those people).

Just like if you burnt someone's house down -- it'd be great if you rebuilt it -- but even if you do, doesn't truly cover the extent of damages nor change the fact you're a terrible person for having burnt it down in the first place.

Now, that I answered -- how about you answer a pretty straight-forward and legitimate question (or at least provide us more entertainment with the lengths you go to in avoiding giving a straight answer to anything):


You keep acting like the truth is "out there", but you consistently refuse to answer the most basic question. Like take yoloer808's question which was asked in good faith. Why don't you prove me wrong, and provide a genuine answer:

Dean, I am also having a hard time following this. If the hacker won the entire bankroll, why did you have problems paying out other players' balances which were NOT part of the bankroll and should have been held in excess of bankroll funds?


1) People didn't sell them for cents on the dollar, that is total lies. There wasn't anywhere else to sell them but to me on BK.

2) Since you said you would still label me a scammer even after doing that you have shown your motive and now I have absolutely zero reason to answer any of your questions or reply to you again.
59  Economy / Gambling / Re: BETKING & DEAN NOLAN: Disastrous Reputation! Read This Reddit Post. on: April 24, 2020, 07:34:41 PM
There is no challenge. You keep asking for details on the hack which is of no importance to you. You know how these things go, you have had many hacks on your sites and I've told you of a number over there years that I've had. I don't see what you are looking for, me to send you code or something?

AFAIK I've only had one exploit against my sites and I was extremely public and open with all the details. Including an exact breakdown (including code!) and its implications. You can see how a professional handles it Grin:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=709185.800

and it goes without saying, that at no time was even a satoshi of players money at risk.


Now your turn Wink

Dean, I am also having a hard time following this. If the hacker won the entire bankroll, why did you have problems paying out other players' balances which were NOT part of the bankroll and should have been held in excess of bankroll funds?

Your sites have been hacked after you sold the code, yet I'm not accusing you of robbing the new owners.

It's not my turn, I've detailed hacks in the past. Why, because the site was still open and I kept investors and refunded them. Keep in mind I let investors withdraw > 6000 btc when I closed.

Anyway. I've got one question for you and jollygood.

If I manage to refund all the balances that were on BetKing when it closed from my own funds I make in my new business AND buy back the remaining token balances, will you still be calling me a scammer and leaving neative trust on my profile?
60  Economy / Gambling / Re: BETKING & DEAN NOLAN: Disastrous Reputation! Read This Reddit Post. on: April 24, 2020, 07:09:16 PM
This is nothing more than serial scammer Dean Nolan trying to scam RHavar - pure and simple




It's not productive to waste time on this, as you're just making up stuff up as you go. So I'll just state that I disagree with this, and it doesn't resemble reality. I've never been in the loaning business, or interested it in.



That seems like you were interested.

At that time I had some relative small debts to pay outside of BK and thought this would be perfect. Note that after this I had the exact setup with someone else.

Then you suggested you could lend $1 million



To which I thought perfect, we could use a big cash injection on the site and I had big ideas AND people could already buy BKB on the site (no one ever did).
So I suggested you just do that instead. Again, thinking it would benefit you even more in the long run since you get a share of the profit form the actual use of the funds.



Then you said you would want collateral. That's where I started saying I'd just prefer you bought BKB if it's going to be that large an amount. I didn't trust anyone to do escrow or hold funds etc like you suggesting dooglus, someone who I thought would jump at the chance to fuck me out of a million.




And again me confirming that I didn't ask for a million, it was after you suggested it that I thought about having that to use for BetKing since I was in talks with investors to try and sign Conor McGregor.



That's how big I was spending and trying to get the site going. You have to remember when I closed BK the first time I hated that PrimeDice was #1 on DiceSites all the time. It's never been about making as much money as possible, it's always about being #1

If you still read that and think I was trying to scam you then you are just an idiot and I'm going to ignore you from now on. I've proven otherwise.


EDIT: before anyone tries to call bullshit



What planet do you live on? How can you think that there is anything in that that suggests I'm trying to scam him? You idiots have lost your mind or have never been outside.
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