I lost over $1 million personally.

Well more like "I am down" since the site is still open and is making profit and so original investors will see a return in the long run

Again, just totally wrong. Btc prices went down from dec 2017 to dec 2018. I never stopped suddenly when it didn't favour me. I bought tokens right up to the end. Then we had to stop because the business had no money left because we were spending lots and using lots of initial funds to buy back tokens. The buybacks changed because it was necessary for the business to continue.

Again, you don't know anything that you are talking about and you don't know all the facts or how the business works or is working.

Notice you don't mention buying back now that btc is went up again.

"ven if you only scammed 0.01% of investors, it's still scamming and you don't get a cookie for not scamming the other 99.99%."
They were not scammed and if one person feels scammed but has no stake in the game then yes that is very relevant.

So you and your crew think it's OK to make things difficult for other investors to see a return on a lot of $ by labelling the site a scam because one person THINKS they have been scammed for a few $?
Use your head.

This is where you are just totally wrong though and have no clue what you are talking about and shows a clear flaw with the trust system here.

No one who has left me negative trust put money in the ICO. None of them are investors and none of them have been scammed.

You all also refuse to even acknowledge just how much of the initial funds were returned to investors.

The fact is that almost all of the remaining investors, that represent >80% of the $ invested, are in a private Telegram group where we discuss daily the state of things and our future plans.
They are positive about the situation and don't think it's a scam.

So who is right? 80% of the actual money invested or 10 people on a forum who haven't invested a penny and don't know what they are talking about?

I just gave you the proof. If you are not capable of taking 2 minutes to analye stats then you shouldn't be investing in anything.

Exactly, the info is all public so you don't need to take my word. You can even compare on 3rd party sites like Dicesites.com

https://dicesites.com/bustabit
https://dicesites.com/betking

People like you just talk so much shite.

If you bought 0.5 btc in the ico you would have invested ~$2250 would have received 24649 BKB.
That's if you bought on the last week. You probably had some discount and also got bonuses for BCH too. So you likely got around 30,000 tokens.

30k BKB gets you 600000 BKT

The current price of BKT is 11 sats = 0.066 BTC meaning at the moment your tokens are worth $528, 3.3x more than you claimed.

Now is 528 annoying considering how much you put in? Yes, of course. Is it a scam? Clearly not.
The site done terrible for a year. This is investing, there's risks.

The past few months though the site has made > $200,000. Which is way more than it made in the first year of after ICO.
Things are turning round a lot.
We are doing better than some other sites since the launch of new token on feb 18th  e.g. BItvest and similar volume/profit to cryptogames

Also, if you invested 1 btc into the bankroll on feb 18th you would have made 10x more profit than on bustabit and way more than on any other dice site.

People should check the facts before posting in these threads.

Your logic to me is ridiculous. If you hold tokens and put money in why would you be trying to get people not to play by posting your false scam accusations? It's stupid.

Quoted since jollygood deliberatly ignores my replies and continues to post so no one else sees mine

Your quote proves you are a complete idiot.

75 replies, not a single unsatisfied player, no bankroll investor complaints and only one legit concerned user who bought in the ico, tsaroz.

There's posts by players who have had a good experience or an existing investor with no complaints.

There are a few posts from people who are put off because they have heard wrong accusations of scam.

Everyone else is either a troll, sig campaign poster bumper (for competitors) or complete idiot (Loyce/JollyGood).


So, if the site is a scam, where is everyone else? If we had thousands of ICO investors and $6.5 million scammed, where are the people demanding their money?

Loyce doesn't count, he got $700 worth of BKB for free, he didn't invest any money, and he doesn't have a clue or a care to learn how the original ICO or the new token model works. He hasn't lost anything.

tsaroz feel free to pm or email support@betking.io to discuss.

Because we don't use Bustabit v1 code. The game on https://betking.io is our own.

will be launching the new project along with ico soon enough

You ask me to explain how you are wrong AFTER you post more assumptions and false information? Are you serious?

The facts by people in this thread? The people who are posting false claims with no evidence and ulterior motives?

The burdon of proof is not on me to show innocence here, I am the one being accused. The accusers should show hard evidence instead of biased opinions.
You have shown to fit that same category and so there's not really any point me discussing or explaining to you either. Your mind is clearly already made up.

How about you read my posts and you would know the information?
What makes you think you are entitled to any information about a competitors business? You're not an investor are you?

How about you focus on your own site that raised $8-10 million and has not done any updates in the past year while your own token price has dropped 40%?

So you say you can't prove i tried to scam you but leave a scam accusation anyway? That doesn't seem right and seems to be abuse of the trust system.

The other question can't be answered because PrimeNumber7 posted wrong information on how the ico, token value and buy back process worked.

You're asking if a business would be different or change it's roadmap if 4-5 months ago it raised an extra $1 million in investment? What do you think the answer is?

I see absolutely no proof presented from anyone that I scammed token holders, including LoyceV

I see what you were trying to imply now.
You spoke of two separate tokens in the same post and made it sound like the 600 BTC was spent buying the original BKB tokens at less than the ICO value, which is not true.

Your 1% number also means nothing. You clearly don't understand the new model, the way the business actually works (or how it worked before, no one here seems to understand that) or any of the plans moving forward.
Which almost everyone in terms of amount BKB held the $ value of the BKB I didn't own is in favour of and has willingly swapped to BKT and gave support.
So those people were scammed?

But agree. This whole chat is totally unproductive because you are biased and post opinions as facts without knowing what you are talking about and everything gets messed up because of idiots like jolly good.

Where's do you get that idea from?

I don't think there's a way to have a productive discussion with someone who continues to ignore everything I say and just make assumptions

"To the best of my knowledge, he sold ~6.5M dollars worth of BKB, not bought a *single* one back at above the ICO price "

Yet I have stated many times I bought back 600 Bitcoin worth of BKB, all above ICO price btw, which is why I held 70% before the launch of the new platform.

So is anyone going to actually post evidence here instead of just making assumptions and twisting words or just straight up lying?

Thanks

Now if we could only settle the other points with a civil discussion without having to resort to attacks and assumptions made or get everything mixed in with these other trolls on the forum.
There's 3 other things you have accused me of unfairly. Open to discussing on skype or pm