Thanks for posting the screenshots, even with careful cropping of context they confirm exactly what I said. I'm not quite sure how any reading would seem otherwise.
Anyway, feel free to export the entire history, as it'll show you repeatedly (!!!) trying to screw me.
There wasn't careful cropping at all. It was the only relevant parts. I have no need or desire to post the entire history as it has a lot of personal info of yours that I wouldn't post. I must be retarded then because reading that I can't see how you could possibly even think I was trying to screw you in any way at all. I have learned a few valuable lessons though, that I can't trust anyone at all. I thought I could trust you and then you started all your shit just because you couldn't admit you were wrong about the bustabit licence. That could have all been handled very easily between you me and Devans too but no, had to rush to the forum didn't you. Devans was in the wrong on that too fwiw Anyway, how come you keep avoiding my really simple challenge: You keep acting like the truth is "out there", but you consistently refuse to answer the most basic question. Like take yoloer808's question which was asked in good faith. Why don't you prove me wrong, and provide a genuine answer:
There is no challenge. You keep asking for details on the hack which is of no importance to you. You know how these things go, you have had many hacks on your sites and I've told you of a number over there years that I've had. I don't see what you are looking for, me to send you code or something? |
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It's not productive to waste time on this, as you're just making up stuff up as you go. So I'll just state that I disagree with this, and it doesn't resemble reality. I've never been in the loaning business, or interested it in.
 That seems like you were interested. At that time I had some relative small debts to pay outside of BK and thought this would be perfect. Note that after this I had the exact setup with someone else. Then you suggested you could lend $1 million  To which I thought perfect, we could use a big cash injection on the site and I had big ideas AND people could already buy BKB on the site (no one ever did). So I suggested you just do that instead. Again, thinking it would benefit you even more in the long run since you get a share of the profit form the actual use of the funds.  Then you said you would want collateral. That's where I started saying I'd just prefer you bought BKB if it's going to be that large an amount. I didn't trust anyone to do escrow or hold funds etc like you suggesting dooglus, someone who I thought would jump at the chance to fuck me out of a million.  And again me confirming that I didn't ask for a million, it was after you suggested it that I thought about having that to use for BetKing since I was in talks with investors to try and sign Conor McGregor.  That's how big I was spending and trying to get the site going. You have to remember when I closed BK the first time I hated that PrimeDice was #1 on DiceSites all the time. It's never been about making as much money as possible, it's always about being #1 If you still read that and think I was trying to scam you then you are just an idiot and I'm going to ignore you from now on. I've proven otherwise. EDIT: before anyone tries to call bullshit  |
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BetKing has had shill-accounts before,
That is not true. Go and ask all your mod crew to check the accounts of all the people you claim are shills. Even go through their complete post history. None of them are mine. I have this account, and support/prc related accounts that are clearly marked. Get over yourself. The forum is shit. People moved on. The reason half the posts saying they got funds back from me are have little post history is because they were here around 2015-2016 and moved on or created a new account because they lost access to their old one. Also think some people probably have a "real" account and a separate account so that people don't link in real life that they had a large sum of btc to invest in a btc casino. |
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Yes.
I have also answered all his questions before, they are in these threads. I've also pmd him a few times. He doesn't care, he loves the drama and gets off on it.
rofl, I love how you keep going back and forth between that I know everything and know nothing. --- The reality is pretty simple though, Dean blatantly scammed people. He blatantly ripped off his ICO investors, bankroll investors and his players. He even reached out privately to borrow money (at unbelievable good interest rates) just before scamming people, which to me indicates there was even a level of pre-mediation behind the whole thing. When I say you are a retard or clueless it's because you ignore the facts I tell you and then make up shit. "He even reached out privately to borrow money" Not true, we were having a casual chat and you said you were looking to start getting in to loaning business. I then asked so that I could have funds to use for the business of BetKing to try more ads/promo to bring players so that I wouldn't need to stop the buybacks. How is that hard for you to understand? You can't be that stupid. It's so simple. I ran out of funds and saw a way to inject new money into the site so that investors had a better chance of rio in full confidence (maybe wrongly) that I would be able to turn the site around and keep buying tokens AND PAY YOU BACK. I had even suggested you just buy the tokens instead of loaning as I thought you would have a chance of even more return. Don't try and turn that in to some dark deceiving tactic based on your own false oppinion when you are just plain wrong. The only thing wrong with that is maybe I shouldn't have offered you great terms or suggested you buy tokens but I was extremely confident with the funds you offered that I would get BK on track and everything would be great again. Keep in mind that even despite all that is happened, I still reckon I could do that if I had that amount of money now. That's just how I am, you know I am always confident in what I am doing, hence why I still say I'll refund everyone while I'm sitting here with no money.
So, really, the only part that is actually unclear is if he is still sitting on all the money or not.
I think it's extremely clear that I don't have any. I think people know with my ego if I had that money I would again be launching BK and trying to make the most popular btc casino, again. And the other truth is, if there was a reasonable explanation -- he's just post it instead of guarding it like some secret knowledge. It would in fact take 1/100th the amount of effort to just have a public explanation rather than spinning 100 different and conflicting stories.
There's not 100 different stories and you know that. Read through all my posts and your pm's, it's all the exact same consistent story. I can't post anything different because nothing different happened. It wouldn't be any less effort because I have posted the same truth for 2 years now on here! For everyone to ignore and twist. It would have been a lot easier to just scam everyone back in 2016, I would have had more money than the ico and hack funds combined. It was even a larger $ amount that I returned to investors. |
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If you don't want to answer questions and think it's none of anyone else's business then stop coming on here. Coming here contradicts everything you say when people have questions about what happened and you say it's none of our business.
You used to be a trusted member of this community. If that means anything to you then we deserve answers.
You also need to take *everything* said about you so personally. Answer questions with verifiable replies you're willing to provide proof for. Especially when you are many people doubting you, you *have* to stick to facts that have proof backing them up.
I come here to try and reach the small number of people I can't via email. The only people doubting me are people who didn't lose anything. And as said, I've defended myself in over 10 threads now where I've answered questions from jolly/rhavar, you even, lots of people. It's not my fault they all ignore it and try drown it out (check how jolly does that) or twist my words. I was trusted member of the community but this forum is not the same community it was in 2016 anyway. Everyone has moved on from here |
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Dean, have you ever put out an official statement on what happened? Why not have, say, RHavar post a bunch of questions for you to answer and you answer everything truthfully?
Yes. I have also answered all his questions before, they are in these threads. I've also pmd him a few times. He doesn't care, he loves the drama and gets off on it. But here's what you are not realising, there doesn't have to be a public official statement (even though I have posted anyway), it's literally no one's business. I'm not trying to open a new site, I'm not asking for a new bankroll off people here. I'm not needing people here to trust me with anything and I'm not looking after anyone's funds. I have a list of people that lost funds and a list of people who had tokens. I've contacted them all. I only post here just for the small amount who may not get the emails, and those add up to a very small amount of the $ value anyway. Link to official statement? And are you open to answering all questions in an official capacity, will all replies open to scrutiny? Why would I waste my time again? I've been doing it for 2 years straight and that's when I had something to defend since the site was open. There's no reason for me to now. As said, the people who it effects know the situation and know I'm refunding them out of my own pocket. There's no need for me to give more fuel or drama to cunts on this forum |
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Dean, have you ever put out an official statement on what happened? Why not have, say, RHavar post a bunch of questions for you to answer and you answer everything truthfully?
Yes. I have also answered all his questions before, they are in these threads. I've also pmd him a few times. He doesn't care, he loves the drama and gets off on it. But here's what you are not realising, there doesn't have to be a public official statement (even though I have posted anyway), it's literally no one's business. I'm not trying to open a new site, I'm not asking for a new bankroll off people here. I'm not needing people here to trust me with anything and I'm not looking after anyone's funds. I have a list of people that lost funds and a list of people who had tokens. I've contacted them all. I only post here just for the small amount who may not get the emails, and those add up to a very small amount of the $ value anyway. |
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Dean, I am also having a hard time following this. If the hacker won the entire bankroll, why did you have problems paying out other players' balances which were NOT part of the bankroll and should have been held in excess of bankroll funds?
You are having a hard time following this because you are reading posts from jolly good, rhavar and other idiots who were not invested or players and had no loss. Yet go out of their way constantly to try and make sure that investors can never be refunded by damagaing my reputation. The only thing that matters is the site closed and some funds were lost and I'm in the proccess of refunding them. Surely that's a good thing, but not according to the scum in here. |
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It's clear that even if I manage in future to refund all the bankroll and bought all tokens back, with my own hard earned money starting from absolutely fuck all now, that you and the idiots on this forums still won't be convinced or believe it and will still brand me as a scammer.
Come clean about everything and tell your story from start to finish, including all the success you've had so that others can learn from you. I'm sure it's a hell of a story that people would love to hear and if you're sincere I bet some good opportunities would come from it. You loaded your statement "come clean". There's nothing hidden. Everything has been explained by me a million times, you just choose to ignore it and twist my words. I owe you nothing. I gain zero from changing your mind. |
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Damn it, Dean. So which is it? Learn to read. Also, don't act the fool, you know how these things work, you've had hacks on your sites. I don't know where you get the idea that people took MORE than the bankroll but whatever.
You don't know the nature of the hack, you don't know what you are talking about and I don't need to explain it to you. --- But man, must suck to have created such a tangled web of lies you can't even offer a reasonable explanation for anything  You are such a retard. You again ignore everything. You also proved nothing with that quote and comment. There's no tangled web of lies. Everything I have said has been consistent since the very beginning. The good thing is my new business which isn't gambling, will be launched next month and working with Bitsler will have meant everyone in the forum had chance to be refunded. I won't need to post here again since everyone else is in my contact list. |
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Learn to read. Also, don't act the fool, you know how these things work, you've had hacks on your sites. I don't know where you get the idea that people took MORE than the bankroll but whatever.
So if the hacker didn't take more than bankroll, why were normal users unable to withdraw funds? I can confidently state that on any of the sites I ran, absolutely no matter what would've happened -- it would've been impossible to lose more than the bankroll (aka all users balances would've always been safe). Some people managed to get funds, just not everyone. You don't know the nature of the hack, you don't know what you are talking about and I don't need to explain it to you. The people who had funds on site know and they are being refunded, that's all that matters. Nice to see you ignore the most important parts of my post though so you can just continue later and keep shouting scam about something you know nothing about  It's clear that even if I manage in future to refund all the bankroll and bought all tokens back, with my own hard earned money starting from absolutely fuck all now, that you and the idiots on this forums still won't be convinced or believe it and will still brand me as a scammer. |
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I don't even get the hack story. You claim someone found out the server seed? But how on earth could that lead to someone stealing take MORE than the ENTIRE bankroll?
Learn to read. Also, don't act the fool, you know how these things work, you've had hacks on your sites. I don't know where you get the idea that people took MORE than the bankroll but whatever.
Well your explanation seems to be "millions of dollars just vanished! (um expenses!!!) And my lawyer told me i don't need to do what i promised!". ok.
Again, learn to read retard. Millions didn't just vanish and that has been explained a million times. All investors have had everything explained in far greater detail too and know exactly where every penny went.
And exactly how much of that was your money, vs bitslers? Anyway, even if you reimburse thousands of dollars after scamming millions ... it doesn't materially change anything...
Showing how idiotic you are again. I'm actually shocked you were able to have successful sites with how clueless you are honestly. You can surely tell that I'm providing something Bitsler benefits from here. And the fee for that is distributed back to players, everyone is happy in that exchange. And get a grip, refunding thousands is a FUCKING FIRST STEP. It's not exactly easy for someone to setup something to make thousands when everyone is actively trying to make sure they can't. This gets 250 people money back, something I worked pretty hard to do. Then I only have to deal with a few people, who I'm in contact with anyway and don't need to post on the forum to try and contact them. Everyone will get a full refund eventually. But I can't exactly just magic money out of thin air. I don't have 8000 btc laying around like you do. |
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Posting here for anyone who gets subscriber notifications on this post who I can't reach via email (check your spam folder) BetKing has partnered with Bitsler to refund all accounts that had a balance when we closed in 2019 up to $200. Full details in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5241045.msg54234726 |
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Or how about don't make assumptions on shit you have no clue about idiot? Find the investors in here complaining about the way I'm handling things. Go on, just one  It's a pretty poor argument when you've repeatedly warned investors that they will suffer reprisals (such as being the last to get paid back). I've been personally contacted by people you've scammed, but they've asked me to not say their names to not jeopardize any chances at reimbursement (as calling you out for them has pretty much 0 upside). Frankly, I'm kind of amazed that this type of intimidation works -- I would've thought everyone realizes there's literally not a chance in hell you'll returned the scammed funds ... but I guess hope is a powerful force. You're lying. I'm not returning any scammed funds either. I'm refunding funds that were lost in a hack, which I don't have to do remember. As for the ICO funds, again, not scammed. But that's been documented to death, you just ignore it. And I've said I would make it up to people there too, out of my own pocket, again something I don't have to do and there's no legal obligation to do so. Some scammer that eh? |
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Part of the trust left by JollyGood says "JustinBounty knows there was no hack at betking.io".
My question is who are you, OP, and do you have a connection with any of this? And that'll likely be my only question, because I haven't been paying much attention to recent scams and don't know the details about this supposed one. Is "JustinBounty" a member who should know about there being or not being a hack at betking.io? Some clarification would be nice.
As far as the feedback goes, there isn't much you can do. You might prevail upon JollyGood to revise or remove it, but he's the only one who can do so.
I can promise and confirm I never knew there was a scam involved at all a friend of mine told me that he used to bet on betking and they got hacked and then as I said recently suddenly when I saw their thread I felt like they are doing something good and made that comment. Great news for those who lost and requires a big heart to refund players who I am sure must have abused you when you got hacked. Well done.
I also sent him an apology and clarification but if you ask me, I haven't done anything wrong still I would say. At least not intentionally. Just ignore him. He won't take that -ve trust back. He's an idiot troll. I wouldn't pay much attention to the trust system here, it means nothing and is abused by a small crew who get off on drama in this cesspit. |
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Don't worry, this thread is all lies and not part of the story at all.
The only thing that matters is people have been getting refunded.
Give someone trusted control of your affiliate payments. Let them distribute the payments to investors transparently. I bet you'd end up getting more sign ups if people weren't thinking all those affiliate fees were going right into your pocket. Or how about don't make assumptions on shit you have no clue about idiot? Find the investors in here complaining about the way I'm handling things. Go on, just one |
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This person just posted in a moderated thread set up by serial scammer Dean Nolan. Looks a very suspicious thing for him to write when everybody knows there was no hack and it was serial scammer Dean Nolan that stolen the funds and shut down the failing website buy blaming it on an imaginary hack to fool people. Great news for those who lost and requires a big heart to refund players who I am sure must have abused you when you got hacked. Well done.
I don't know the whole story and from what I knew I made that reply, I don't even play there. Sorry if I offended you at all. Don't worry, this thread is all lies and not part of the story at all. The only thing that matters is people have been getting refunded. |
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Just posting here for anyone who gets subscriber notifications from this forum on this post who I can't reach via email (check your spam folder) BetKing has partnered with Bitsler to refund all accounts that had a balance when we closed in 2019 up to $200. Full details in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5241045.msg54234726 |
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I'm posting this here for anyone who gets subscriber notifications on this post who I can't reach via email (check your spam folder) BetKing has partnered with Bitsler to refund all accounts that had a balance when we closed in 2019 up to $200. Full details in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5241045.msg54234726 |
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I am posting here for anyone who gets subscriber notifications on this forum post who I can't reach via email (check your spam folders please) BetKing has partnered with Bitsler casino to refund all accounts that had a balance when we closed in October 2019 up to $200. Full details in this thread here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5241045.msg54234726 |
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