can you share where you get news everyday ? your favorit site ?
There are so many sites were you can look up Bitcoin news, you will only have to search for them on google and yo will find plenty of them. Just choose one that you like. |
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Due to high activity on this thread we would like to give you a bit more time to advance on the list and to users who haven't applied yet for this giveaway, therefore we are switching the end date with the other giveaway, so this one will be extended to 07.06.2016 20:00 UTC.
You will probably get complaints from people who qualify at the original end date, but are pushed down on the list a week later. Well it's their giveaway so they can do as they please. In 1 week the min amount of points will be over 50 points which means they will get a lot of free promotion. There's no point to hold the avatar on if there is 0 chance to get 0.002 BTC, which is why I removed it. Anyway good luck with the giveaway! Huh why would you place it in the thread instead of the OP? So many people joined now, but would they have know they probably wouldn't have. 1 more week gives you guys 1 week of extra promotion but hundreds of people will advertise your site and hoping to get a bonus, while we all know the final list will at least leave 40% of the current contenders out. A shady scheme which I don't want anything to do with. My guess is that the impact of the extra week is far less than you expect - looking forward to create a summary to destroy your doubts  Our thinking was that it would be more fun to keep this running (with changing points as you go) than to let it idle and let the guys on the other giveaway wait another week although the result was settled. We'll try to avoid changing end dates in the future, though - it just seemed to be the right thing to do on this one. EDIT: Forgot to answer this one: The reasoning we didn't change the OP is to avoid being accused of cheating by changing the rules. LOL but that's exactly what you doing, changing the rules. Having a signature + avatar for 1 week is ok, but now you force people to have it 2 weeks there. Else they won't get 'paid' Which in fact will happen either way since the min. points to get payment so please don't act stupid. We both know it's fun but for you guys (PRIMEDICE), not for the guys who participated from the start. Anyway remember: Honesty goes a long way. I and many others who will quit/have quit will not think anything positive when it comes to primedice  So yeah.. good luck;) |
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Due to high activity on this thread we would like to give you a bit more time to advance on the list and to users who haven't applied yet for this giveaway, therefore we are switching the end date with the other giveaway, so this one will be extended to 07.06.2016 20:00 UTC.
You will probably get complaints from people who qualify at the original end date, but are pushed down on the list a week later. Well it's their giveaway so they can do as they please. In 1 week the min amount of points will be over 50 points which means they will get a lot of free promotion. There's no point to hold the avatar on if there is 0 chance to get 0.002 BTC, which is why I removed it. Anyway good luck with the giveaway! Huh why would you place it in the thread instead of the OP? So many people joined now, but would they have know they probably wouldn't have. 1 more week gives you guys 1 week of extra promotion but hundreds of people will advertise your site and hoping to get a bonus, while we all know the final list will at least leave 40% of the current contenders out. A shady scheme which I don't want anything to do with. |
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If you want to earn money later in the future than it would be much better that you are making an investment in Bitcoin and that is because than you can sell it maybe in the future with profit.
But it is still hard to know what the value will be so saving money will be safe for yourself in the future.
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username: bitcoinhunt3
Thanks
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The escrow Mr. Notaek did find a reasonable solution in which I hope all involved parties are happy.
Injustice as far it it can been undone has been undone.
At least some good did come out of this mess...
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The escrow Mr. Notaek did find a reasonable solution in which I hope all involved parties are happy.
Injustice as far it it can been undone has been undone.
Thread = Locked
Trust review = Revised.
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
- Edmund Burke
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It was the signed message, which I'm afraid had me convinced to return the funds.
I apologise for not being sensible enough with my decicion but all I can do now is to partially payout the participants from the service fee he sent me.
Why would a signed message get you to agree to return the funds? The only thing that proves is that you were receiving a message from the person you thought you were receiving it from. How much exactly did he pay you and how much is owed to participants? What is going to happen with the difference? Exactly this. Which Signature manager (which he is) would ever do this or allow this? |
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I don't see how he was 'fast' he has reacted today and he was far for fast. He seem to be ignoring all threads throughout the day.
@all
I am not here for 10 dollars... This is something way bigger then that. An signature member/escrow who, and I state this again, deliberately did action to harm signature members.
There are 4 and problaby more reason to NEVER do such a thing. Yet he chose do it. If you read this reasons you will not believe a member with this stature would do this except for self gain.
I've said it before and I am happy to say it before. Yes, I've lost 0.025 BTC, but never should such a person be responsible for funds or even a campaign, since he clearly has proven to be a very non-reliable factor.
This is not a witch hunt, the accusation itself is to protect other users from such a devious and dark person. Isn't the trust system made for this exact reason?
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While it may seem that it would be a good situation for all other campaign managers to see this type of situation happening to another member i assure you i personally am not getting any enjoyment out of this scam accusation. These mistakes look bad for all managers period. Same goes for situations such as gianluca. I posted my opinion of the guy but at no point in time did i try n swoop in n steal the campaigns he is managing.
I have no clue if notaek is involved or if he just did something ignorant but anytime members are screwed out of funds its a shitty situation. If notaek ever finds himself in this situation again i think the best course of action for him would be to explain to the owner of the campaign, no matter if closing the project or not, is under obligation to pay the participants he hired. The funds he put in escrow are put there to protect the company, the advertisers, and the campaign manager. Theyre not refundable if a campaign is active. Now if a few ppl didnt qualify for the 1st weeks payment and funds are left over, then yes close the project and recieve the left over funds.
The question im asking myself is does notaek deserve a neg? The only answer i can provide is no unless he is found to be involved in the scam. Is he responsible to pay the users who are owed money? Well being as he was the escrow for the campaign and admittingly sent the funds back i would say yes.
If anyone disagrees post your own opinions
Interesting since you were quite fast on the the gianluca campaign (yeah I read a lot) tos say so it wasn't me? I don't think you are even in a position to judge or talk, because well. you are a signature campaign manager yourself. Your amateurism makes you react to this thread for whatever reason but you seem to be bored. Of felt bad or do some good to your (buddy) notaek. Let me tell you Yahoo. If my colleague was attacked I would be ignorant. Just doing my work. But wherever signatures managers are, you seem to pop up. And you are the only one one..The smater, wiser sig. managers dececidd to keep away from this or the other threads, But you didn't that's sad man. I feel for you. I wist I could hire you to block you.. Because in a way you are nothing better then the scammers, backing up the wrong guys.. . |
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This is very interesting to read, bitcoin-hunter is a bit hard on some people, but with full right in my opinion.
I think situation was pretty clear with this campaign, when they shut down everything, escrow should give that money to people from campaign. I don`t know how manager of campaign is paid, but he also need to fight for justice here. At least that will help him with reputation here. What to think now about people who needs to protect us from scammers?
LOL how am I hard. I am just stating facts. Notaek and BTCat followed the scammers just to easily. To a sense which doesn't make it realistic. Thing is they both are dealing in signature, escrow etc. so they should never and, I repeat, never be in a position to trust funds or be responsible of funds. This is real money and we are dealing with adults. Adults are the ones who should take responsibility for their actions right? Look at the facts and think again, Am I too hard, Is this a witchhunt? No/ Nein/ Non, I just lost some money of this signature campaign. 10 dollars. Don't worry I will survive that But like I said above, the reason I do this is that people like them who support scammers, should never be able to do it again... Suppose? |
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Notaek made a mistake here, which I think he by now is aware of. However, he also seems to be ready trying to fix that mistake and work things out. I request BTCat to prepare his spreadsheet and send me the amount I need to repay.
Lets see if I can find a solution to this.
I'd at least give him the chance to react and do what he plans to before joining in together and bashing him to the ground (which will help no-one right now). Lutpin come on man. 1) You are enjoying this like Real enjoys a defeat of Barcelona and all signature managers, yahoo, zengry. 2) His plan? you have read his comment too. He is playing innocent. This guy is in on it. And not a little bit. Just check the facts. He deserves a negative until he proves a negative. I got no interest in this since I forfit my 10 dollars . Integrity is important to me and this thief should be caught before he does more damage |
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I think escrow on sig cam
p is to ensure that the participants got paid by his service but now escrow here lost its function
Yeah. People lost money and there will be end to that story. Other people lost through an incompetent escrow and so called manager. Since the escrow Notaek was at fault more (money) and Notaek start to blame BTCat for a missing list: I need a spreadsheet ASAP! Where's BTCat?
Witch hunting will lead you into nothing.
Which is crazy since a list will give you nothing. Check the OP and count down to page 3 where you find applicants.. idiot! The scammers did cover some tracks, but you my idiot friend, you did not cover well enough. |
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There is a thing called justice. Every man and woman knows about it and what you did was injustice. You, being a signature manager yourself (which makes you story very very very hard to believe) get an e-mail about closing the campaign. These things happends. There is just 1 day before payment. You were asked for holding funds escrow for.. THE signature campaign. Your sense tells you.. Hmm yeah wait let me not see what is happening there? Hmm what about the signature campaign members? Tomorrow they get payment? LOL no you stature as a 'signature campaign manager' leads to you pay. With escrows like you we don't need any escrow ever for escrow. What you did was exactly the thing for which escrows are in the first place. And still you act innocent? Uh uh Exactly, and the funny thing is that there wasn't even a hint of curiosity to check out the spam boards or anything else on here to see what the current situation was with everyone else... I guess in his eyes, it's better to sell out and allow these guys to get away with ~17 BTC and probably get a good chunk of the cut, than sell his account to someone else straight up... because now his trust is probably going to go down from this point on. He will not sell it now, because he still plays the innocent child/dog. We are not good for trust (though we got good arguments), but we are not alone in this quest: https://archive.is/ZlxKgSelling out yourself for 1 BTC that's low, Whatever he will do in live. His price was less then 450 dollars. That's cheap man. The very best thing to do now is audit who is the participant and they should be payed for their works their some fund heing escrowed and that shoulf be given to participants even though the campaign is close, this is not very good for the community if something like this will be happen again.
Manager should make audit who participants would be payed Even though its little btc but the matter their is participant should be payed for their hard work.
The manager BTCat is not a very intelligent guy either (probably why the scammers chose them). About BTCat: He did not make a spreadsheet after almost a week after being asked to by.. almost everyone. He also got his twitter account banned while promoting his promotion service. It seems the scammers found the most idiotic people on this forum.... and perhaps even alive |
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Are you kidding us? The campaign was more then halfway underway (just 1 day) before payment) and you decided to just return it? Fully aware that 1 The site site was locked 2 All threads were locked, meaning it was a scam to happen 3 Again the campaign was 1 day away for payment 4 You escrowed got PM's and decided to go into silentmode for over 16 hours But your egoistic mind thought (I can earn btc because he stated;"I will definitely contact you again after we deal with the flaws in our project"). This 4 reasons are more then enough to me that you are either on the scam, or you benefited else wise. You didn't even contacted the community manager... Eitherway you should be held responsible after such a big mess up (see my 4 points) P.S. Even if he did wanted to tripple the BTC and give it all to Unicef. The signature campaign members should be paid if there is just (let me repeat it) 1 day away from payment. What's wrong with these so called campaign managers Gianluca aka the Spam King Notaek a greedy bastard who double cross to make profit and then act 'stupid' __________ You paid him 2/3 hours ago: https://blockchain.info/address/1LnjyM12aPkzceninWeoEFkiTYXpVNH6TpSo many posts about OPHION has come up. Even a SCAM accusation thread and you tell me, you all missed that? 0.025 is not a lot of money, but 1 BTC or 17 BTC they stole is. And I am sure you can't be this stupid since you did more signature campaigns... Paying them and missing the bitcointalk is just too much of a coincidence. We all know that... Well, without asking anything its better not to assume anything yourself. This thread was already locked down by BTCat. And I had a few conversation with BTCat regarding the matter. It was the signed message, which I'm afraid had me convinced to return the funds. I apologise for not being sensible enough with my decicion but all I can do now is to partially payout the participants from the service fee he sent me. I respect your opinion but I haven't been through this situation before. There is a thing called justice. Every man and woman knows about it and what you did was injustice. You, being a signature manager yourself (which makes you story very very very hard to believe) get an e-mail about closing the campaign. These things happends. There is just 1 day before payment. You were asked for holding funds escrow for.. THE signature campaign. Your sense tells you.. Hmm yeah wait let me not see what is happening there? Hmm what about the signature campaign members? Tomorrow they get payment? LOL no you stature as a 'signature campaign manager' leads to you pay. With escrows like you we don't need any escrow ever for escrow. What you did was exactly the thing for which escrows are in the first place. And still you act innocent? Uh uh |
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I received an email from hazelnutter, demanding back his coins.
-snipped-
You are a fucking joke. I mean, really? ... If you wanted to ensure that he would keep up to his word (which he probably isn't going to do) (or maybe this is your alt account or whatever) you would have requested that you get the list of return address (which there probably isn't) and you would send them back personally (which you probably won't). Also, I've helped him point out bugs on his (shitty) website, as well as other people helped pitch in and was excited about this (god awful) project. You guys are the worst... He is not a joke, he was in on it or got a good amount of bitcoins to cover his involvement. Facts are facts and I opened a scam accusation thread against him https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1479635.msg14915266#msg14915266Let's be real. There is no way he was asleep and just transferred the bitcoins. No way. Edit And yes it's not about my payment. For the record: I did not make a screenshot and hereby deny payment from stolen money. But he (Notaek) appearenty being both an escrow and signature campaign manager (WTF how can someone like him got be trusted for both?) forget about his duties and chose for easy money thinking he was out of range of the facts. |
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LOL, take a chill pill, the thread is about the signature campaign. You can frustrate your anger on your scam accusation thread. the escrow could be often a scam, so you should always track the status of paying in signature campaign, it could be a ponzi-like. felt sorry to hear you are not being paid anyway.  hope they resolve this kind of problem and not repeating it again. The funny this is you posted this some time ago and you were right.. The escrow Notaek is a scam https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1472638.msg14915136#msg14915136He is also a signature campaign manager :S |
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I received an email from hazelnutter, demanding back his coins. He sent me a signed message which said:  -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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Hello notaek,
Due to legendary idiot member Hueristic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=198573), We are having a hard time continuing developement or getting interested parties involved with development. We have now just lost one of the exchanges because of his messages. He is ruining what Ophion could be for you.
Ophion is to be developed by 2 people I know well and have worked with (Still in discussion about payment) We can continue this project but I really dont know how much we can make from it now as a bit of fud like this can turn people off.
As the project is terminated we don't think about continuing our signature campaign and so I am requesting you to return me the bitcoins I kept in your escrow address. These are investor's funds which I will have to return them as a token of good will. Returning the funds to investors is more important than paying out to signature spammers.
Kindly send me them to 1LnjyM12aPkzceninWeoEFkiTYXpVNH6Tp
Thank you for taking time. You have been a good escrower. I will definitely contact you again after we deal with the flaws in our project.
- -Sebastian
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Hello notaek,
Due to legendary idiot member Hueristic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?=
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Ophion is to be developed by 2 people I know well and have worked with (Sti=
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ont know how much we can make from it now as a bit of fud like this can tur=
n people off.
As the project is terminated we don't think about continuing our signature =
campaign and so I am requesting you to return me the bitcoins I kept in you=
r escrow address. These are investor's funds which I will have to return th=
em as a token of good will. Returning the funds to investors is more import=
ant than paying out to signature spammers.
Kindly send me them to 1LnjyM12aPkzceninWeoEFkiTYXpVNH6Tp
Thank you for taking time. You have been a good escrower. I will definitely=
contact you again after we deal with the flaws in our project.
- -Sebastian
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Hello notaek,<br>
<br>
Due to legendary idiot member Hueristic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?=
action=3Dprofile;u=3D198573), We are having a hard time continuing develope=
ment or getting interested parties involved with development. We have now j=
ust lost one of the exchanges because
of his messages. He is ruining what Ophion could be for you.<br>
<br>
Ophion is to be developed by 2 people I know well and have worked with (Sti=
ll in discussion about payment) We can continue this project but I really d=
ont know how much we can make from it now as a bit of fud like this can tur=
n people off.<br>
<br>
As the project is terminated we don't think about continuing our signature =
campaign and so I am requesting you to return me the bitcoins I kept in you=
r escrow address. These are investor's funds which I will have to return th=
em as a token of good will. Returning
the funds to investors is more important than paying out to signature spam=
mers.<br>
<br>
Kindly send me them to 1LnjyM12aPkzceninWeoEFkiTYXpVNH6Tp<br>
<br>
Thank you for taking time. You have been a good escrower. I will definitely=
contact you again after we deal with the flaws in our project.<br>
<br>
- -Sebastian<br>
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Are you kidding us? The campaign was more then halfway underway (just 1 day) before payment) and you decided to just return it? Fully aware that 1 The site site was locked 2 All threads were locked, meaning it was a scam to happen 3 Again the campaign was 1 day away for payment 4 You escrowed got PM's and decided to go into silentmode for over 16 hours But your egoistic mind thought (I can earn btc because he stated;"I will definitely contact you again after we deal with the flaws in our project"). This 4 reasons are more then enough to me that you are either on the scam, or you benefited else wise. You didn't even contacted the community manager... Eitherway you should be held responsible after such a big mess up (see my 4 points) P.S. Even if he did wanted to tripple the BTC and give it all to Unicef. The signature campaign members should be paid if there is just (let me repeat it) 1 day away from payment. What's wrong with these so called campaign managers Gianluca aka the Spam King Notaek a greedy bastard who double cross to make profit and then act 'stupid' __________ You paid him 2/3 hours ago: https://blockchain.info/address/1LnjyM12aPkzceninWeoEFkiTYXpVNH6TpSo many posts about OPHION has come up. Even a SCAM accusation thread and you tell me, you all missed that? 0.025 is not a lot of money, but 1 BTC or 17 BTC they stole is. And I am sure you can't be this stupid since you did more signature campaigns... Paying them and missing the bitcointalk is just too much of a coincidence. We all know that... |
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