I very much agree with that, and that idea has been in my mind ever since I educated myself on bitcoin practices. The most valuable trait about the bitcoin is not only it's anonymity, but the fact that it is not, and cannot be regulated by the federal government. (Cannot only lasts as long as we fight and work for that to remain true btw...) As a point of interest, the legal structure in the United States has been amended countless times in effort to manipulate and control the flow of financial operations and establish wealth for deliberately targeted individuals, thus we have the infamous 1%... with an unregulated currency using anonymity as its backbone, we can ensure that the system is not only fair, but abundantly so. In modern financial practices, one must establish credit through years, decades even, of monotonous and trivial measures of financial responsibility. Then we have those who simply inherit wealth from their predecessor(s). Not only that, we have a legal infrastructure that provides the most powerful and resourceful entities on the planet (corporations) a legal obligation to act on any opportunity to ignore any responsibilities to the health of it's consumers (and the planet they live on) and pursue only the course that would ensure the maximum possible profits for the share-holders the law will allow...

This is a crash course for disaster, and the evidence is all around us if we care enough to look. We are constantly trying to out-run a system intended and designed to keep most of us sick, stupid, and starving. Until now, it was nearly impossible to gather the resources necessary to put an end to this, because we were all losing the battle. The only way to survive was to simply lose less than everyone else, which inevitably leads to the destruction of our own morals and principals, the same ones that guided us as children, before we learned the ways of this world and had to compromise them to survive. But what if everyone was winning, and the goal was to simply "WIN MORE WHILE BEING LEGALLY OBLIGATED TO ENSURE EVERYONE ELSE WAS WINNING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE"

To put it another way, profits are simply resources. As humans, we convert natural resources into anything we can imagine. As most of us tend to believe, you can buy pretty much anything with enough money. So... why don't we focus our "crypto-currency" regulations towards something new and better, the next natural step of economic evolution (or revolution). What that is exactly, I still don't know, and I try not to pretend to. But I do think one thing is clear to me, incentives for the masses, and not the few, sounds pretty nice to me. Just remember, it's still a fairy tale as long as there is one person in the circuit who is suffering and treated unjustly. We are human beings... the only thing stopping us is ourselves.

You know, that's not the first time I head that. I discussed the chess site on a previous thread a few months ago, when I was still working on it, and I had someone mention the idea to me. I remember looking into the dynamics of the game, and from what I gathered, it seemed doable. Now... how much would you "love" to see it?

(Please don't let this distract from the original idea of the thread. And please, stop telling me there are already sites like this. I want to make one that is better... Constructive feedback only please)

"Well that escalated quickly...?"

Maybe I am mistaken on some key levels to make this a success, but that does not mean that I am not capable of creating something that we can all agree upon. Please don't let my opinions stagnate this thread. I'm just trying to make something worth putting my time into... and if I embarrass myself in the process, please try not to judge me on it.

I think you misunderstood, the site would allow for total and complete anonymity for the investors, "but they would still be able to voice their concerns and critique the weak points of the project"

And I am aware that this is not an original idea, but I think I can simply do it better. For instance, establishing liability for the recipients of the investments through contractual agreements. Example: A representative can be selected to act as the legal identity for the "sharks" and he/she would be responsible (and obligated) for ensuring the money is being used for what it is supposed to be used for, and that any return on the investment would be sent to a designated bitcoin address.


Sometimes that is a fact of life that cannot be changed, weather due to fiscal irresonsibility at an early age, or just plain bad luck. I think we have an opportunity to use this "crypto-currency" to benefit everyone (being that it is unregulated) instead of those just interested in making a profit or getting a return on their investment. How many people can honestly say they think their current banking system is fair, and is not being used to as a catalyst to fuel immoral and selfish principals in business and economics? I think the bitcoin is our salvation, a chance to spawn a new form of fiscal practices, and in the proper hands, can literally save humanity.

Quick edit: Just to be clear about that part, I would not limit the projects to humanitarian only, that's just what I would do. Any thing is acceptable, whether it be profits and dividends for the investors, or feeding the homeless and developing medical technology. I am also capable of hosting a .onion url from my local machine thus to provide security and anonymity to all users of the site, sharks and fish alike; although it would be difficult to hold those who abuse the system responsible for their actions. But that's the main purpose of this thread. I want people to help me think of ways to protect the anonymous investors above all things. They would be the bread and butter of this project.

A while back I made a website to generate bitcoins, the coins were worth about $5 a piece at the time. The website was basically designed to earn a commission off of competitive 1 on 1 gaming. The players would agree to a wager set by the game host. Once the wager is agreed upon, they would compete in a match to determine who would collect the total in the escrow. After the game was resolved, I, the creator of the website, would collect a commission, and the winner would receive the rest of the amount in the escrow. Now... the idea was solid and doable, and it received mostly good feedback... but then something went wrong with the transaction protocols within the code, and I really didn't have the motivation to fix it. So, basically, I gave up on it, just as it was starting to gain attraction from this community. The reason is pretty much because I just didn't want to anymore. I lost interest...

So I've been thinking recently... bitcoins used to be worth next to nothing, and at that time, people would have to buy large amounts to have anything substantial. Then, the value of the coins rose drastically. Now, I'm wondering what is going on with those of us who bought in this circuit when it was just starting... they must be doing pretty well for themselves. So... I want to set something up, basically like kick-starter. You could post videos, essays, anything you wanted to express your idea. And just like the show "Shark Tank", there would be a panel of investors. They could remain anonymous, but still voice their concerns about the idea, critique the weak ends of the proposal, and of course buy a percentage of the ownership and invest. My approach would be entirely humanitarian though, and I think that is something that is lacking in this aspect of anonymous fiscal operations. Also, that's pretty much the reason why I forewent the development of the chess site. I didn't see anything positive or productive, all-be-it an interesting idea, and I think I am capable of something better, with the proper resources at my disposal.

To avoid failure of this idea, the people requesting these funds would have to offer some kind of collateral, or sign a contract obligating them to do what they are proposing. The investors, however, would not. They would be entirely anonymous, but still have a legitimate stake in the project or operation. I would want this to be entirely legalized. There has to be contractual obligations for the people requesting funds from the "Sharks". I am fully capable of developing a project like this, and I think it would be a good opportunity for creative people who lack the skills and resources necessary to make the world (or just this community) a better place.

Thanks, and sorry to those of you who wanted to see the chess site progress.

(Constructive feedback please)

well, sorry to say this, but i've been pretty side-tracked with another project. The site is currently down and i don't know how long it will to fix it. there's a problem with the wallet management api, and i haven't looked into it yet. but as to your concern about the chess "cheating", if you read some of my other posts, you'll see this issue has been "some-what" resolved. What i did is re-programmed the chess engine to modify the movement of a singular piece, the knight. it now moves 3 and 1 instead of 2 and 1. this stops chess engines from working, because they're programmed to work with knights that move 2 and 1, not 3. i think it works pretty good, but it's not perfect. i do like the idea of "bot wars" though, that's acctually what i thought would happen in the first place when i came up with the idea. lol ^^

keep the suggestions coming. this idea has gotten a good respose from the community so far.

and as far as a business plan goes, it's very VERY simple. The affiliate program allows for investors to get a return on their investment, but any other investment capitol will go directly into the advertisement campaign. i use bitcoinadvertising.com because it only advertises on bitcoin related sites, and they're cheap! any more idea though, i'm all ears. kthxbai4now^^

i know that dude, read my sig 

well that's the idea... but it's still technically in beta. I'm trying to get it off the ground, so you won't really find any opponents yet. and bitcoinadvertising.com is proving to be a disappointment. i'm still working at it though, i think it's a good idea

-.-

I'm still looking for anyone who might be interested in helping with the chess project i've been working on. The site is working flawlessly, and there is still room for development, but i would like to keep it the way it is right now. It's simple, and easy to use. Now all I need are investors to help get it off the ground. I want to advertise everywhere! I've been working with Bitcoinadvertising.com and I'm noticing alot of the clicks are coming from China. In light of this, i re-wrote the site in mandarin (fantasypublishings.com/cn

So, i'm asking, does anyone think this is a good idea? Good enough to go into a partnership with me? Everything is negotiable, and I will work hard to make this work.

Take a look at the site here: btcchess.com or if you don't want to use the redirect url, you can access it directly from this domain fantasypublishings.com

well, there is one thing. most chess bots use the standard chess rules to evaluate the best possible move in any circumstance. this website has altered the rules a bit, to swagger the chess bots. read the welcome message on the site, and you'll see what i mean.

^^ gl!

I'm challenging anyone who thinks they can defeat me in chess. The wager is 0.10 btc. the game is hosted with BTCChess.com You can also challenege goisbetter1, although i must warn you, he is very skilled.

Good luck!
-drknow012

Well, there are a few ways. I made a chess website that is currently in beta. you can view the details here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80579.0

You can promote an ad campaign to invest in the chess website just by advertising your affiliate link with bitcoinadvertisers.com. but that's only one option. i made this thread to see if any one wanted to invest in another site similar to this. example, one person is interested in having a backgammon site made for him. also, i always wanted to start project development on a site that uses server based games using the quake-3 engine. games like counter-strike or soldier of fortune.

also, i wanted to release an ipo for a company based entirely on these "skill based" games where you could win bitcoins from other players simply by playing a game. the ipo would be released with glbse.com, and if anyone wanted to help me with this release, they would be given an equal amount of shares into company's profit sharing program. i would release dividends on a weekly basis. although, i would need someone experienced to help me with this.

I am open to suggestions for any type of investment, whether it be in bitcoins, time, human resources... w/e. i am a talented programmer and web designer, and would love to start a bitcoin company for "skill based" games. that's the topic this thread is supposed to support. thank you, you can contact me in pm if you like

Well, when making the site, it was just easier to create a new wallet and transfer funds from the player's account to this new wallet and call it an escrow account. I could edit the code so it would keep track of the escrow strictly on the site, and there would be no pending required, and I still might.

This is because the bitcoins must be confirmed in an escrow account for each game.

Good luck in your games btw.

i figured that much, i accepted your challenge as superduperman, good luck

sure, but you should expect the game to last a few days, unless we catch each other at the same time again.

oh people can see your game, but the site doesn't have many active members as of yet. i still have to launch an advertisement campaign to get the ball rolling.

it has to confirm, usually about 10 minutes or so. if you want an opponent to play you, you'll have to search for one yourself. I need to launch an ad capaign before people can find other players. i do have a friend who wants to buy some bitcoins from me and play though, so maybe tomarrow i can talk to him and he can play you.

ps: I also need people to check the site for sql injection vulnerabilities. I think i stopped them all, but i know people have been trying.