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301  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: my linux box was hacked today and almost 400 BTC were stolen! on: June 23, 2011, 02:03:22 PM
or a helpless group of 10 people who has 35 less btcs. I hope someones got the balls to find him face to face and duke it out and maybe upload a video for viewing pleasure, but we likely won't see this happen. Not that I condone such act of course.
302  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Whats going on with BTC Guild? ~8hrs on this block... on: June 23, 2011, 01:55:25 PM
To me what is more important than fixing it is the fact that this happens often and does anyone actually verify all the blocks mined and so on. No to accuse any operators, but these are the important questions that the participants need to ask then followed up with to ensure that everyone is doing the right thing. Blindly thinking that everything is fine is the fast way to be taken advantage of in many situations.
303  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Doug Casey on Bitcoin on: June 23, 2011, 01:45:19 PM
bitcoin needs infrastructure. in fact, very complex and vulnerable infrastructure.

Complex, yes. Vulnerable no.  Localized internet outages do not threaten bitcoin's long term value.  It would require a massively catastrophic event to destroy the entire internet, worldwide, permanently. An event that would almost certainly also destroy the infrastructure protecting your gold: bank vaults, police forces, transport systems, electricity grids, etc.

...unless you are the survivalist type who lives in the woods and buries his gold in the ground.

I agree. I highly doubt that even in the worst of case when/if the fiat currencies start to collapse in itself, entire network of internet infrastructure will be offline for a prolonged time to effectively stop the bitcoin trade long enough to bring it's value to nil. I'm seriously hoping for a new type of technology to develop where we can connect to the internet via p2p or open wireless type of structure without central nodes. That would 100% insure the bitcoin network never going offline without an ounce of doubt, but the technology in development may be bit more down the future. Namecoin is definitely a start in the right direction in that aspect. If anything, the signs of terrible things to come in the events preceding the possible collapse should urge the general public to seek out and develop such technology out of necessity.
304  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: BTC Guild - 0% Fees, Long polling, SSL, JSON API, and more [~2500 gH/sec] on: June 23, 2011, 07:57:07 AM
 Undecided
305  Economy / Economics / Re: Thinking in bitcoins? on: June 23, 2011, 07:48:39 AM
You are right that the hardware cost is a factor. But if you are looking at buying and holding long term, the small dollar amount invested for hardware initially becomes less and less important as the value goes up higher over time.
306  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Spamming with Tradehill referral using MtGox compromised db? on: June 23, 2011, 03:47:37 AM
I will never trade at tradehill because of their use of referral policy and every damn member spamming it every possible chance they get. They single-handedly increased the amount the junk threads and spam on the forum more than any one person or business. Not to mention every blog/video/article/etc that has a comment section littered with trash from tradehill. This approach to marketing definitely doesn't appeal to me one bit and I will never use their services. They are only contributing to people posting more useless crap on every possible news outlet reporting on bitcoin and it reflect badly on the entire community as being associated with spammers. Not only that it encourages the act of spamming by the true nature of the marketing approach. It's despicable.
307  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin getting exponentially higher search volume - will this continue? on: June 23, 2011, 03:03:48 AM

In 3-4 years time, we could be right up there with paypal.  Shocked

rly.. is that your idea of thinking big?  Undecided
308  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: my linux box was hacked today and almost 400 BTC were stolen! on: June 23, 2011, 02:06:43 AM
i am going to get sued because some hacker scum bag








He's already telling everyone he isn't planning to pay back. He is outright lying about this obviously imo. I wouldn't trust this guy. I knew it was going to end badly when I saw the ad. Too bad people lost hard earned btc over this. I'm 100% sure he isn't paying back anyone.
309  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Do you just need to backup your wallet.dat once? on: June 23, 2011, 12:19:37 AM
Every transaction on the network gets recorded in the block chain and stored on every node.
310  Economy / Economics / Re: Thinking in bitcoins? on: June 22, 2011, 10:34:00 PM
This is the very issue that comes up when miners think about reinvesting btc back into mining rigs to produce more btc. People insists on reinvesting and selling bitcoins to buy more equipment when the math says that the new equipment will never mine more btc than the amount of btc you've put into it. If the goal of the miner is to have as many btc as possible, buying outright likely will yield more btc in total. The hope of the miner is that the value of btc go up enough to give return in terms of USD to pay back the initial investment where their hardware is paid off. So 2-3 months down the line you may have made enough USD from your rig to cover up your initial cost of btc reinvested, but you've only been able to do this because the price rose to make up the difference of # btc mined vs spent. On the other hand due to the increase in difficulty, you will never be able to mine the same amount of btc you originally spend.
311  Economy / Economics / Re: When do you expect and when do you want BTC to go over 30 bucks again? on: June 22, 2011, 10:21:46 PM
I predict that we will hit $30 mark before we hit the end of the 7th day after MtGox opens likely sooner. I really doubt a huge sell off out the gate because of the fact that other exchanges are holding prices above $10+ easily. Even if there is a selloff right out the gate, the prices will recover past $30 before the end of 7th day of trading after reopening.
312  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why I still h ave faith in bitcoin's value on: June 22, 2011, 09:48:17 PM
Bitcoins are in fact like religion because the faith of the people who believe in it give bitcoin it's value. In that aspect bitcoin is very much like a religion. Only difference is that this religion will actually save lives when the world's fiat currencies start collapsing whereas others will tell them to pray for a change.
313  Economy / Economics / Re: What is holding you from investing tons of money in this? on: June 22, 2011, 09:45:01 PM
I can't, in good conscience, hold bitcoins as a long-term investment because, for me, the future is still clouded due to rampant security issues and real-world viability concerns.

This is the reason why some people like Steve Jobs are called visionaries whereas ordinary people buy his ipads instead.
314  Economy / Economics / Re: What is holding you from investing tons of money in this? on: June 22, 2011, 09:39:15 PM
1. No independent third-party audit of the source code (Satoshi could be one rich man one day).

2. No independent third-party audit of the latest development release of the client (nobody in their right mind would put money into a digital entity without security checks and encryption).

3. No trusted third party exchanges able to produce a contract guaranteeing the security of held deposits (my dollars are safe thanks to the FDIC, which is backed by the trust and will of 300 million Americans).

4. Evidence that 99% of the economic activity of bitcoin is generated by exchanges or miners (clear evidence of a super-bubble) - is there a real-world use for bitcoin?

5. Client is still early beta.

I asked these questions in a thread which is currently getting buried...

1.Bitcoin client is being audited by independent 3rd party all the time because they are open source. If you want to do  your own audit, you may.

2. The deposits held are in the record of every single one of the clients blockchain. Every user holding the same blockchain you have are essentially serves as witness to you holding w/e amount of bitcoins that you do. This blockchain always will be the same on all clients therefore you don't need trusted third party to do any accounting to guarantee your holdings. What could be better than having the entire "jury" agreeing to the same facts that your claim are true on your accounting books? Because that is literally what is happening when bitcoin transfers ownership from one to another and is recorded on the blockchain ledger so to speak. Encyption is on it's way to be in the client itself shortly, but the option is already available if you seek to perform this function yourself via truecrypt or similar software available for free.  

3. You have a choice to not use any exchanges if you don't want to. You are not investing in an exchange, but in bitcoins. Due to bitcoin being still at in infancy, exchange services providers have yet to come up with a bulletproof solution as of yet it seems. Not worried as growing value of bitcoin will simply demand a better exchange and free market will surely respond and meet that need at the right time. For now, I just consider all hick-ups at exchanges as early growing pains.

4. If you could actually provide the evidence that 99% percent of all economic activity of bitcon is generated by exchanges or miners, I will acknowledge this as a valid question rather than a troll attempt. Just as a quick reply, bitcoin is still at it's infancy and there is still a valid need to exchanges currently. This obviously will change as the acceptance of the currency grows with time and more and more business accept bitcoins directly reducing the need to exchanges altogether.

5. This comes down to your own level of risk tolerance. One thing for certain is that the code is open and transparent. If you are like me and others that are accepting of the risks, then you can give yourself the option to participate early in a new currency that was just created. If you also have the technical knowledge, you can easily see that the core functionality of the currency and it's cypto are very secure. Of course you should take responsibility of your own security at all times regardless of involvement in btc or not. Somehow I have the feeling that even when the beta tag comes off the official client, that it will still continuously be updated and supported. I don't see how this is any different than how it will be for the rest of it's existence.






315  Economy / Economics / Re: BTC hit 120 PLN, (217/156 as valuable as MtGox high) - did anyone notice? on: June 22, 2011, 09:13:31 PM
This doesn't surprise me as I expect the price of btc to start it journey back up as soon as trading resumes at MtGox for USD as well. The crash didn't actually do any damage other than to MtGox and their reputation. Btc, as a result of the Sunday's debacle, received huge amount of media coverage to spread the word of btc's existence. Problem isn't that we get negative coverage, but that we don't get enough coverage as the intels of the world will easily recognize the real opportunity behind the smoke and mirror that media throws in with their reporting.

If there are smart people out there that have seen the recent media coverage, they will surely have taken the time to search for more info and are rdy to jump in asap. Personally all it took me to look into bitcoin was someone mentioning that they would have to exchange this new digital currency it to paypal dollars to buy some computer equipment on a forum thread way back. I've never heard of bitcoins at the time and that was all it took to pique my interest. It wasn't anything more than an ordinary comment referring to bitcoin. I'm sure it won't take much to excite people who already have their radar tuned in for new opportunities such as this already.
316  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Human greed and bitcoins on: June 22, 2011, 08:56:41 PM
Although there is a bit of difference in the amount of coins that each user may own at this point in time, it is absolutely important for everyone to remember that Bitcoin is still at it's infancy. We are all early adapters at this point. There are just a few mega early adapters is all.

Don't kick yourself in the ass by not being involved sooner rather than later. At the end of the day, it's about YOU protecting YOUR wealth in a vehicle of YOUR choosing. Worrying about who has how much of what is as irrelevant as weather it will be btc, gold, usd, land, properties, pm, stock, or whatever else YOU decided to store wealth in. Reason is simple. It's because at any point, current price dictates how much wealth can be stored at 1 btc. What is important is that it will hold it's value and continues to do so as long as you are invested in it rather than lose it like fiat currencies of today.
317  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Idea: The Drug Road, a place to buy silk with bitcoins on: June 22, 2011, 08:44:05 PM
I bet the op has no idea where the "silk road" reference even comes from to trying make a joke by swapping it out.. You are only make yourself look foolish here imo. Just don't post crap anymore and go away altogether.
318  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Official Launch: Bitcoins For Charity on: June 22, 2011, 06:43:21 PM
I always new that the best and fastest way to legitimize btc transactions worldwide to the average people would be for major charities to get involved and accept bitcoin. It would obviously make sense for a non profit to accept payment in any shape and size they can if it has any value and it is liquid. This ease of entry vs a normal business is pretty big deal not to mention the publicity that comes from this will reflect positively.

I appreciate your efforts to become an advocate of bitcoin to charities and helping them setup a way to accept them. I only see this as win win for everyone and the community should help drive traffic to this site any way they can. Once the charities all over the world realize how real btc is one by one, btc will become that much closer to becoming a world wide currency for the people.
319  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: BTC Guild - 0% Fees, Long polling, SSL, JSON API, and more [~2500 gH/sec] on: June 22, 2011, 06:04:42 PM
Sorry for PMing this to you eleuthria and posting here (just got my noob training wheels off and finally able to post elsewhere), but I wanted to see what the rest of the users thought of my ideas so you could gauge the demand for them (I think they are good, but others may not see the benefit).

Couple of feature requests/ideas:
  • Definitely need a way to sort the workers alphabetically (doesn't have to be selectable, just always sorted). Now it is sorted by when you created the workers. I have mine labeled 1x1, 1x2, 1x3, 2x1, 2x2, etc where the first number is the PC number and the 2nd is the GPU number within that PC. So if I add another GPU to a pc, they arent grouped together which makes it a little difficult to see what is going on.

Let me and everyone else know if these feature could be useful to you. Maybe if enough people want them, we can ask eleuthria to see about implementing them.

Thanks for everything. love the pool.

I would love to see this implemented as I hate having unsorted workers and this problem remains for other majors pools as well. This feature would set apart BTC guild for me from the rest making even better than it already is.
320  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: post here when your account is recovered (mt.gox) on: June 22, 2011, 05:06:40 PM
I was also able to fill out and submit request before the site was having trouble loading again. I should be part of the first batch and I haven't received any confirmation email. Patiently waiting for the sunny trading days Grin
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