Ein "freies" Leben wie du es hier beschreibst sollte für jeden erstrebenswert sein, aber nicht dadurch erreicht werden, dass man eigentlich nur geschickt anderen Geld aus der Tasche zieht. Wenn du tradest, tust du aber genau das. Du hast niemandem geholfen und die Menschheit keinen Schritt vorangebracht. Für mein Empfinden ist das der reine egoistische (Über-)Lebensinstinkt und/oder Gier. Wenn man nun einen 9-17 Job hat, dann erbringt man im besten Falle eine Leistung und bringt im großen Ganzen etwas voran, ob man das nun "nur für seinen Chef" tut, der einen knechtet oder selbst in der Rolle eines Geschäftsführers steht der sein Unternehmen voranbringt, macht für mich dabei keinen Unterschied. Man hat etwas geschaffen, seine Zeit und Kraft (Mental oder körperlich) gegeben und wird dafür bezahlt. In deinem System fehlt die Komponente in der du für jemand anderen etwas gibst und nicht nur nimmst, deswegen vergleiche ich diese Einstellung mit einem Schmarotzer.
Hier fehlt wohl ein Grundverständnis für die Wirtschaft. Die alte Mähr, dass Makler, Spekulanten usw keinen Mehrwert erzeugen ist kompletter Nonsense. Wenn ein Makler dazu beiträgt, den Markt transparenter zu machen und dabei selbst gute Geschäfte macht, ist das manchmal wertvoller, als wenn er am Fliessband stehen würde. Wenn er nämlich am Fliessband steht und direkt an irgendeiner Produktion beteiligt ist, kommt am Ende zwar irgendein Produkt heraus, dass dann aber aufgrund fehlender Markttransparanz nur völlig unter oder überteuert verkauft werden kann. Und wenn der Makler, der sich ausschliesslich am Markt tummelt, hohe Gewinne einfährt, ist das lediglich ein Zeichen dafür, dass der Markt so schlecht funktioniert, dass noch mehr Makler gebraucht werden. Das reguliert sich am Ende selbst.
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The situation cannot be very worse. In the BTCChina order book this bid order can be found: Bid | Volume | BTC | CNY | 4300 | 928 (2) | 1604 | 6943676 |
If somebody invests more than 700000 USD he should know what he is doing.
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I am sure they can never be $50k per 1 bitcoin. It is unbelievable.
Not so unbelievable, it only requires 50X more demand... That is the point. But these discussions on how fast the BTC price surges are getting boring ...
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Having a trusted bank issue individual coins representing actual assets will allow them to be more valuable than BTC is today, making them more attractive to mine.[/b]
The question is whether they'd name it Debtcoin or Derivativecoin? lol
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I foresee a collapse of BTC value when the first large financial institutions release cryptocurrencies of their own, which are actually backed by tangible assets like gold or by fiat currencies.
That is the single point which @CryptoPhilanthropist has not catched - there is no intrinsic value. And the senseless try to back a currency by gold or anything else is just a naive imagination of gold having an intrinsic value which is even not true - it is the coherent believe of the owners into yellow metal. As we see in Bitcoin no bounding to gold is needed to create a coherent believe in the value of Bitcoin. The creation of BTC is genius in an emergent way which is without precedence but comparable to gold, internet, email etc The speculation that some bank will create its own cryptocurrency may become true but will not affect Bitcoin. That will just be another altcoin like all the other 60 or so ones. If the bank keeps the control over this currency it will be no more than any other fiat just as electronic currency.
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What happened to Bitcare - it seems to have been vanished from the store
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Solange der Bitcoin noch nicht weitgehend stabilen einen Wert angenommen hat und mehr als 1000% pro Jahr im Wert wächst, macht die Ausgabe von Bitcoin gedeckten Münzen keinen Sinn. Das werden immer nur Sammlerstücke sein, wie die Casascius Coins. Es ist aber interessant zu sehen, dass Bitcoin mittlerweile ein so hoher Wert beigemessen wird, dass er als Deckung für eine Hartwährung her halten muss.
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Just this appeared on my screen: http://thebitcoinnews.co.uk/: My opinion is that hosters which fight against Bitcoin should not be supported by Bitcoin users.
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No one can predict the future of btc but this is one interesting approach: Let say it will continue to grow 5% each day as the current trend tells; 1000x1.05=1050 1050x1.05=1102.5 1102.5x1.05=...etc. That means it will reach $10000 in 47 days and $100000 in 95 days.. Just saying..
What kind of nonsense - if it would grow that fast then sometime somebody will find out that the Bitcoin value is not in balance with the trading assets and the bubble will pop - maybe it goes down from 10000$ to 1000$ again.
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... But theres always that nagging feeling of doubt. Given the speed of of rise that bitcoin has seen in the last year, one can only assume that if adoption contiunes the price will be far over 2 000 USD next year.
Sure - no need for doubt because as long as Bitcoin can be used to buy flight tickets (btctrip.com) and anything else (all4btc.com) there may even not be a reason to change Bitcoin back to a fiat currency. And due to that there will not be a reason for the price to drop.
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What does someone do to get lots of Bitcoins in this situation ? Simply sell something for Bitcoins that is exclusive and very expensive - e.g. a spaceflight.
And what does it means for the price of Bitcoins - it will rise very fast. Maybe sometime we'll be able to buy a spaceflight for 1 BTC.
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and for the whole monster my prediction is 1 Satoshi for 10 US Cent when the adoption will finish since I have no real idea (metaphysics) when this will happen I just looked into existing growing curves
I hope you're right! Can't you just follow the graph to see when 1 satoshi = 10¢? No I cannot. Currently BTC is still in an early phase which makes it impossible to give a concrete forecast in this point. I think for sure that his scheme will be true: 2014 - 1E4 2015/16 - 1E5 But how things develop then depends on many factors. 1 Satoshi = 10 Cent is my personal metaphysical assumption. Alternative szenarios are that Alt currencies take over parts from the market (not Ripple). Then you may choose which of the Alt currencies may be the next successful cryptocurrency.
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What are the the two axis even represent in this graph? And how that graph fits to estimate the future value of bitcoin X axis is the year, y axis is the number of hosts connected to the internet, scale is logarhithmic And how this graph fits to estimate bitcoin price. Do you think that for some metaphysical reason, bitcoin price will follow the growth of internet hosts? yes - that is not so metaphysical take any curve of a new free technology that is global - all of them follow the same principles Here is a map of the current BTC distribution: http://getaddr.bitnodes.io/think how fast China adopted Bitcoin and they just started now look at the light green areas - including India Bitcoin is an unstoppable monster eating the whole money market who is first in will profit just from speculation others profit from the adavantages (speed, low transaction fee, no border control, ...) in Sep 2013 my forecast was 1000$ for March 2014 - see what we have now Now my forecast is 10000$ for 2014 and for the whole monster my prediction is 1 Satoshi for 10 US Cent when the adoption will finish since I have no real idea (metaphysics) when this will happen I just looked into existing growing curves
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What are the the two axis even represent in this graph? And how that graph fits to estimate the future value of bitcoin ok accidently I did not use a chart with English labeling. X axis is the year, y axis is the number of hosts connected to the internet, scale is logarhithmic The source is Wikipedia: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronologie_des_Internets
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In difference to my former estimations the target valuation will be 10 million USD / BTC. That means 1 Satoshi will be 10 US Cent. The simple reason is the Internet development: Take this curve - we are in 1985 - values from the y axis my be divided by ten. Only question the scaling of the x axis - maybe 2020 will be 2010 in the chart - who knows ...
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I am willing to sell one bitcoin for $100,000 right now.
Friends and family discount here, $199,999.95 for two When it raised to 1E5 USB / BTC there will not be need anymore to change Bitcoin into anything else.
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redlists, greenlists, whitelists, redlists ... All of them are completely worthless. The simple fact is that Bitcoin is global. If any government (not to mention the US directly ) tries to separate the Bitcoin amount or users into good and bad the simple consequence will be that the economy grows faster outside of the regulated space. That means BRIC countries will grow more fast than even now. And the regulated country will suffer under separation from self induced separation. This economic effect will be massive. All in all it will be very unlikely that this will happen.
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- Document how anyone can consistently reproduce the data corruption.
- Explain why it happens.
- Write a code fix that is acceptable to the Bitcoin core developers and merged into Bitcoin git master.
Please refer to my posting: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=337575.msg3622968#msg3622968Since I use Windows not IOS the situation may differ slightly. But at least it may be a hint. If you want to donate me: 1METhkrvz2r9d3zkFPQrHnpFC1BjCs64Zf
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