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221  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: December 27, 2013, 11:04:48 AM
Ein "freies" Leben wie du es hier beschreibst sollte für jeden erstrebenswert sein, aber nicht dadurch erreicht werden, dass man eigentlich nur geschickt anderen Geld aus der Tasche zieht. Wenn du tradest, tust du aber genau das. Du hast niemandem geholfen und die Menschheit keinen Schritt vorangebracht. Für mein Empfinden ist das der reine egoistische (Über-)Lebensinstinkt und/oder Gier. Wenn man nun einen 9-17 Job hat, dann erbringt man im besten Falle eine Leistung und bringt im großen Ganzen etwas voran, ob man das nun "nur für seinen Chef" tut, der einen knechtet oder selbst in der Rolle eines Geschäftsführers steht der sein Unternehmen voranbringt, macht für mich dabei keinen Unterschied. Man hat etwas geschaffen, seine Zeit und Kraft (Mental oder körperlich) gegeben und wird dafür bezahlt.
In deinem System fehlt die Komponente in der du für jemand anderen etwas gibst und nicht nur nimmst, deswegen vergleiche ich diese Einstellung mit einem Schmarotzer.

Hier fehlt wohl ein Grundverständnis für die Wirtschaft. Die alte Mähr, dass Makler, Spekulanten usw keinen Mehrwert erzeugen ist kompletter Nonsense. Wenn ein Makler dazu beiträgt, den Markt transparenter zu machen und dabei selbst gute Geschäfte macht, ist das manchmal wertvoller, als wenn er am Fliessband stehen würde. Wenn er nämlich am Fliessband steht und direkt an irgendeiner Produktion beteiligt ist, kommt am Ende zwar irgendein Produkt heraus, dass dann aber aufgrund fehlender Markttransparanz nur völlig unter oder überteuert verkauft werden kann. Und wenn der Makler, der sich ausschliesslich am Markt tummelt, hohe Gewinne einfährt, ist das lediglich ein Zeichen dafür, dass der Markt so schlecht funktioniert, dass noch mehr Makler gebraucht werden. Das reguliert sich am Ende selbst.
222  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: btcchina BTC price on: December 27, 2013, 10:54:02 AM
The situation cannot be very worse. In the BTCChina order book this bid order can be found:

Bid   VolumeBTCCNY
4300    928 (2)16046943676

If somebody invests more than 700000 USD he should know what he is doing.
223  Economy / Speculation / Re: I will not Die Untill Bitcoin will reach at Least 50K on: December 26, 2013, 07:58:42 PM
I am sure they can never be $50k per 1 bitcoin. It is unbelievable.

Not so unbelievable, it only requires 50X more demand...

That is the point. But these discussions on how fast the BTC price surges are getting boring ...
224  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Bitcoin changed the world... and its price will crash on: December 26, 2013, 06:57:40 PM
Having a trusted bank issue individual coins representing actual assets will allow them to be more valuable than BTC is today, making them more attractive to mine.[/b]

The question is whether they'd name it Debtcoin or Derivativecoin?

lol  Grin  Grin  Grin
225  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Bitcoin changed the world... and its price will crash on: December 26, 2013, 05:16:03 PM
I foresee a collapse of BTC value when the first large financial institutions release cryptocurrencies of their own, which are actually backed by tangible assets like gold or by fiat currencies.

That is the single point which @CryptoPhilanthropist has not catched - there is no intrinsic value. And the senseless try to back a currency by gold or anything else is just a naive imagination of gold having an intrinsic value which is even not true - it is the coherent believe of the owners into yellow metal. As we see in Bitcoin no bounding to gold is needed to create a coherent believe in the value of Bitcoin. The creation of BTC is genius in an emergent way which is without precedence but comparable to gold, internet, email etc

The speculation that some bank will create its own cryptocurrency may become true but will not affect Bitcoin. That will just be another altcoin like all the other 60 or so ones. If the bank keeps the control over this currency it will be no more than any other fiat just as electronic currency.
226  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: BitCare for Android on: December 19, 2013, 09:00:39 AM
What happened to Bitcare - it seems to have been vanished from the store
227  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: December 05, 2013, 07:27:26 AM
Solange der Bitcoin noch nicht weitgehend stabilen einen Wert angenommen hat und mehr als 1000% pro Jahr im Wert wächst, macht die Ausgabe von Bitcoin gedeckten Münzen keinen Sinn. Das werden immer nur Sammlerstücke sein, wie die Casascius Coins. Es ist aber interessant zu sehen, dass Bitcoin mittlerweile ein so hoher Wert beigemessen wird, dass er als Deckung für eine Hartwährung her halten muss.
228  Bitcoin / Legal / Closed sites on: November 30, 2013, 01:48:02 PM
Just this appeared on my screen:
http://thebitcoinnews.co.uk/:



My opinion is that hosters which fight against Bitcoin should not be supported by Bitcoin users.
229  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: will the bitcoin reach $1000 one day...? on: November 28, 2013, 09:50:08 PM
No one can predict the future of btc but this is one interesting approach:
Let say it will continue to grow 5% each day as the current trend tells;
1000x1.05=1050
1050x1.05=1102.5
1102.5x1.05=...etc.
That means it will reach $10000 in 47 days and $100000 in 95 days.. Just saying..

What kind of nonsense - if it would grow that fast then sometime somebody will find out that the Bitcoin value is not in balance with the trading assets and the bubble will pop - maybe it goes down from 10000$ to 1000$ again.
230  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: will the bitcoin reach $1000 one day...? on: November 27, 2013, 04:23:57 PM
... But theres always that nagging feeling of doubt.
Given the speed of of rise that bitcoin has seen in the last year, one can only assume that if adoption contiunes the price will be far over 2 000 USD next year.

Sure - no need for doubt because as long as Bitcoin can be used to buy flight tickets (btctrip.com) and anything else (all4btc.com) there may even not be a reason to change Bitcoin back to a fiat currency. And due to that there will not be a reason for the price to drop.
231  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: When will BTC be worth $100,000 per BTC??? on: November 26, 2013, 10:41:40 PM
What does someone do to get lots of Bitcoins in this situation ? Simply sell something for Bitcoins that is exclusive and very expensive - e.g. a spaceflight.

And what does it means for the price of Bitcoins - it will rise very fast. Maybe sometime we'll be able to buy a spaceflight for 1 BTC.
232  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: will the bitcoin reach $1000 one day...? on: November 26, 2013, 06:42:58 PM
WWPS (world wide ponzi scheme)
 Grin Grin Grin Grin

ok - truth is that the world wide distribution is a stable base for much higher rates. from my previous estimations on stabilizing between 1000 and 10000 dollar I have to correct to (nearly) open end. even 1000000 is not really a limit (that would be 1 Satoshi = 1 US Cent). but the price rise will slow down the higher the value of Bitcoin is. and that is very good because it will end up in a more stable price and ensure that the price development does not end in a popping bubble
233  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: When will BTC be worth $100,000 per BTC??? on: November 24, 2013, 09:47:49 PM
and for the whole monster my prediction is 1 Satoshi for 10 US Cent when the adoption will finish
since I have no real idea (metaphysics) when this will happen I just looked into existing growing curves

I hope you're right! Can't you just follow the graph to see when 1 satoshi = 10¢?

No I cannot. Currently BTC is still in an early phase which makes it impossible to give a concrete forecast in this point.
I think for sure that his scheme will be true:
2014 - 1E4
2015/16 - 1E5

But how things develop then depends on many factors. 1 Satoshi = 10 Cent is my personal metaphysical assumption. Alternative szenarios are that Alt currencies take over parts from the market (not Ripple). Then you may choose which of the Alt currencies may be the next successful cryptocurrency.
234  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: When will BTC be worth $100,000 per BTC??? on: November 24, 2013, 08:36:22 PM
What are the the two axis even represent in this graph? And how that graph fits to estimate the future value of bitcoin  Lips sealed
X axis is the year, y axis is the number of hosts connected to the internet, scale is logarhithmic

And how this graph fits to estimate bitcoin price. Do you think that for some metaphysical reason, bitcoin price will follow the growth of internet hosts?  Roll Eyes

yes - that is not so metaphysical

take any curve of a new free technology that is global - all of them follow the same principles
Here is a map of the current BTC distribution:
http://getaddr.bitnodes.io/

think how fast China adopted Bitcoin and they just started
now look at the light green areas - including India
Bitcoin is an unstoppable monster eating the whole money market
who is first in will profit just from speculation
others profit from the adavantages (speed, low transaction fee, no border control, ...)

in Sep 2013 my forecast was 1000$ for March 2014 - see what we have now
Now my forecast is 10000$ for 2014

and for the whole monster my prediction is 1 Satoshi for 10 US Cent when the adoption will finish
since I have no real idea (metaphysics) when this will happen I just looked into existing growing curves
235  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: When will BTC be worth $100,000 per BTC??? on: November 24, 2013, 08:02:22 PM
I hope it will be within a few years so I can pay for my education in btc!

Maybe not $100,000 but probably over $10,000 within a few years .

Next year - due to this

Other indicators and charts can be read here:
http://www.zakon.org/robert/internet/timeline/#Growth

@RebelWorm
If you wanna pay your tuition in BTC you can do it alrady: http://ow.ly/r8mGU
236  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: When will BTC be worth $100,000 per BTC??? on: November 24, 2013, 05:36:10 PM
What are the the two axis even represent in this graph? And how that graph fits to estimate the future value of bitcoin  Lips sealed

ok accidently I did not use a chart with English labeling.

X axis is the year, y axis is the number of hosts connected to the internet, scale is logarhithmic

The source is Wikipedia: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronologie_des_Internets
237  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: When will BTC be worth $100,000 per BTC??? on: November 24, 2013, 02:15:20 PM
In difference to my former estimations the target valuation will be 10 million USD / BTC. That means 1 Satoshi will be 10 US Cent.

The simple reason is the Internet development:



Take this curve - we are in 1985 - values from the y axis my be divided by ten. Only question the scaling of the x axis - maybe 2020 will be 2010 in the chart - who knows ...
238  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: When will BTC be worth $100,000 per BTC??? on: November 24, 2013, 01:30:07 PM
I am willing to sell one bitcoin for $100,000 right now.

Friends and family discount here, $199,999.95 for two

When it raised to 1E5 USB / BTC there will not be need anymore to change Bitcoin into anything else.
239  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mike Hearn, Foundation's Law & Policy Chair, is pushing blacklists right now on: November 24, 2013, 12:20:48 PM
redlists, greenlists, whitelists, redlists ...

All of them are completely worthless. The simple fact is that Bitcoin is global. If any government (not to mention the US directly  Grin ) tries to separate the Bitcoin amount or users into good and bad the simple consequence will be that the economy grows faster outside of the regulated space. That means BRIC countries will grow more fast than even now. And the regulated country will suffer under separation from self induced separation. This economic effect will be massive.

All in all it will be very unlikely that this will happen.
240  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: MacOS X LevelDB Corruption Bounty (5 BTC + 200.2 LTC) on: November 18, 2013, 01:00:12 PM
  • Document how anyone can consistently reproduce the data corruption.
  • Explain why it happens.
  • Write a code fix that is acceptable to the Bitcoin core developers and merged into Bitcoin git master.

Please refer to my posting: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=337575.msg3622968#msg3622968

Since I use Windows not IOS the situation may differ slightly. But at least it may be a hint.

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