Agree fundamentally. Oda explains the background:


In the world there is a fundamental trend for increasing acceptance of Bitcoin which is a strong supporter for the the lower bound (0.46% a day). But on top every boom burst event shifts or lifts the trendline upwards.

The top 100 addresses are also listed in the Bitcoin ladder on the Bitcoin wiki. (And from this numbers it can also seen that the Bitcoin wiki is not up to date).

Here is the histogram:



Looks like nothing changes too much.

This discussion is not new. In my opinion most of the analysis is going too far.

Clearly a virus or malware infected system is bad anyways and a special danger for wallets. So first thing before one starts to handle with Bitcoin wallets is to clean the system or use Linux with a dedicated user account - suggested software and procedure for Windows:
 - Superantispyware
 - Avast Antivirus
 - SpyBot
 - CCleaner
 - strict firewall settings
 - manual inspection of the process list in the task manager
 - analyse any small peace of software with www.virustotal.com before installation
 - AdBlock and BetterPrivacy add ons for the browser; turn off 3rd party cookies
 - for paranoids turn off Javascript and Java and do not visit any suspicious sites

When all that done (it has to be done frequently and regulary at best every day) install any wallet software with password protection and strong key encryption (eg. AES256) like Bitcoin-QT. Turn on the password with a secure password (http://bit.ly/19SE2n9) - at least 13 characters out of a set of 120. Be careful with the password not to write it down anywhere accessable.

Then Bitcoin addresses may be created. After each new address the wallet.dat must be backed up somewhere eg. cloud, email, memory stick, CD, etc. - at least in two independent locations.

When that is done not too much should happen. If someone is really paranoid he can use https://www.bitaddress.org on a not connected and clean device to create a paper wallet as cold storage and transfer his Bitcoins there. I would not recommend brain wallets - some kind of backup has to be done which would be equal to paper wallets from a security perspective.

Finally I recommend using more than one wallet (not address) if the Bitcoin amount or value gets bigger - if accidently one wallet is lost or cracked at least the rest will be preserved.

Genau - guck mal zB. auf all4btc.com

Ausserdem sind BTC schon dann wertvoll, wenn es nur ausreichend viele Leute glauben. Mittlerweile gibt es aber Dienste mit denen man Elektronics, Flüge, und eigentlich alles kaufen kann. Nur 'aufessen' kann man sie mit sicherheit nicht.

There is a new top entry:

Can nr.1 be the FBI catch ?

What kind of question. It's time to close this thread.

Not sure if the market is big enough for that. Finally it works only if the snowball starts rolling else they just loose money. And the Bitcoin seems to be quite stabil even after news like Silkroad shutdown.

Spätestens seit der Schwarze Schaf-Kampagne, ist da im Niveau eine Schieflage eingetreten. Trotzdem war mein Kommentar sachlicher gemeint, als er angekommen ist.

Dann deklarieren wir die Bitcoins einfach um, indem wir aus dem Wallet Bitcoin-QT die Schweizer Variante Hollywood-QT machen, dass dann den Typ Medienplayer hat und statt Coins eben 'Film'e enthält. In Folge streiten wir ab, dass es sich um ein Tauschmittel handelt und beanspruchen für jeden einzelnen 'Film' ein Urheberrecht. Somit ist das herunterladen und weitergeben für den privaten Gebrauch wieder legal.
     

Vergesst die Schweizer. Die leben in ihrer Alpenfestung, wie die Hühner auf der Stange und leiden unter Paranoia, dass ihr vom Ausland abhängiger Wohlstand wegfällt - berechtigt. Sollte die Schweiz tatsächlich ein formelles Bitcoin-Verbot erlassen, wäre das ein Schnitt ins eigene Fleisch, weil sie sich von weiten Teilen der Welt abkapseln würden. Ausserdem weiss man seit dem Vebot gewisser Filesharing-Technologien und Dienste, wie ineffektiv das ist. Nicht ausgeschlossen ist auch, dass nach dem Generalangriff durch die Finanzbehörden und Banken, der Schließung von Konten, der Verbreitung falscher Informationen über Bitcoin und der Schliessung von gewissen Marktplätzen, nun nach einer neuen "legalen" Strategie gesucht wird, ein juristisch so schwer fassbares Tauschmittel anzugreifen. Meine Voraussage: Zwecklos - der Point Of No Return ist bereits überschritten und die Schweiz gehört mit Sicherheit zu den Ländern, die für Bitcoins am wenigsten wichtig sind.

Übrigens ist interessant zu sehen, wie man in der Schweiz mit Rechtsgütern umgeht. Das Urheberrecht erlaubt nämlich dort den Konsum von Medien übers internet zum privaten Gebrauch. Genauso ist die einmalige Weitergabe einer Kopie von Medien erlaubt: Pirateninsel Schweiz - also immer so, wie es gerade am besten passt.

Exciting times for sure. I think people have understood that Bitcoin is not only a high speculative short time inestment. Many do not want to change back to fiat. So the question is simply where the market volume for a massive crash should come from ? From what I see I assume that for some time value will raise slowly (OK its very fast) to unseen heihgts. Currently the statistics show that damnd (BID) is much higher than supply (ASK). Maybe surprisingly (or not) we will see the 1000 $ barrier falling sooner than expected.

But I must also admit that I do not feel very comfortable with this very fast growing because I am simply not used to - that should be true for most investors.

time to close this thrad and raise a new one for $ 500

I hope for you you sold it on the way down 

More interesting would be the distribution in histogram form - eg.:



Maybe it is possible to extend this to the top 1000 addresses and mark the time of last address use in color.

On Oct 17th 2012 I bought my first 0.05 BTC. I was not sure how things will develop. So I did buy small amounts and traded them again. Today I could bite my ass not having bought simply 1000 of them. 

Then I propose to make the party in Bangkok instead of Berlin. I would organize the rest.

Please count on me ...

I vote for Berlin because its the city with the most Bitcoin businesses in Germany for now

What about a questionaire for the vote ??

So then - what happens if your TREZOR has a technical problem eg. after dipping into water ? Or what happens if it is stolen - you loose the content but nobody else can use it. I won't call that safe.

On the other side it is questionable if bigger amounts of fiat money was ever safe in our hands.

Now we can start speculating what he really did.

Second question is why it is necessary to show someone his Bitcoin amount with a small transaction - at that point I would have been mistrustful.