I just added a couple of machines to the pool. How long does it take to get the N-Average up to 'full speed'?
Thanks!
It is listed on the Help>Payouts page (menu bar, far right side of the page) https://kano.is/index.php?k=payoutCurrently it is 7days 18hours. That will change as pool hashrate and the network difficulty changes. |
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Block! Cobramining does it for us again!
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can anyone advise here or on PM
my latest S9 just lost a board in other words it was working fine for about 24 hours then i made a psu change and it just stoped hashing. two interesting details, one, the miner detects the board but no its not hashing at all GH/S(RT) shows 0000, two, if i connect that particular board by itself it does hash, but only by itself.
any input or advice will be greatly apreciated
i tried diferent psu
and i tried changing resetting all settings
same result
Which brand of psu's are you using? |
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Put another way, a 20% difficulty increase - which we just had - means, if BTC price remains the same, that it'll take 20% longer to get a block, and hence your income just dropped by 20%.
M
I was just looking it over and the rate at which the difficulty and hashrate is increasing at an alarming rate. When I joined this pool feb '16, difficulty was 163.5G. It took 11 months to double to 336.9G in Jan '17. It more than doubled again after 6 months in Jun of '17 at 678.6G. Now it's more than doubled again in 4 months to 1452.8G. Fortunately BTC price has more than kept pace. If I remember right BTC was between $200 - $400 then. It disturbs me that the cycle of the hashrate doubling keeps shortening, without the release of a new miner. I know more players have entered the miner market, but they all use the same foundries. Are the foundries getting more efficient at producing and just putting out chips that much more quickly, or has some player come up with a more efficient way to use the existing 16nm chips and just not released it to the public yet? I think hashrate and difficulty keep increasing because the price of BTC keeps climbing and climbing and climbing. That causes more miners to enter the game with the existing hardware. It's an equilibrium that I'm not sure all miners understand. "Oh, look, I can make this much $$$ by adding this much hash power!" "Wait, why did the difficulty go up 20%?" "And my $$$ just went down by 20%?!" "Maybe I should add some more hash power..." M While I'm sure that is some it, the global hashrate just before the s9 was released was only 1.5 Exahash. Now it's almost 10.5 Exahash. So even if half of that 1.5 was shut off and subsequently brought back online later, it doesn't seem to be enough to bring upon the huge increases that have been happening. I could be way off and the foundries just have nothing better to do than pump out asics, but it just seems that something else is in the works. |
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Put another way, a 20% difficulty increase - which we just had - means, if BTC price remains the same, that it'll take 20% longer to get a block, and hence your income just dropped by 20%.
M
I was just looking it over and the rate at which the difficulty and hashrate is increasing at an alarming rate. When I joined this pool feb '16, difficulty was 163.5G. It took 11 months to double to 336.9G in Jan '17. It more than doubled again after 6 months in Jun of '17 at 678.6G. Now it's more than doubled again in 4 months to 1452.8G. Fortunately BTC price has more than kept pace. If I remember right BTC was between $200 - $400 then. It disturbs me that the cycle of the hashrate doubling keeps shortening, without the release of a new miner. I know more players have entered the miner market, but they all use the same foundries. Are the foundries getting more efficient at producing and just putting out chips that much more quickly, or has some player come up with a more efficient way to use the existing 16nm chips and just not released it to the public yet? It's because Bitmain is no longer in the business of selling BTC miners to the people, they simply make them for themselves and occasionally sell a few for BCC to quench the masses and get a large enough base in a new ALT coin that if it does spike, they make money off it as well. So not only do they get money from increasing their mining power, they get a base of another alt coin and the increase in difficulty doesn't impact them as much because they are driving it. I'm sure that Bitmain is doing this, along with moving back and forth from BTC to BCH to manipulate the difficulty. But they have been making and keeping miners since day 1. I'm sure they have always made as many as they can and either put them in their own facility and sold a few. But those were already hashing as soon as they were built. It's not like they were just stacked in warehouse waiting. |
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Put another way, a 20% difficulty increase - which we just had - means, if BTC price remains the same, that it'll take 20% longer to get a block, and hence your income just dropped by 20%.
M
I was just looking it over and the rate at which the difficulty and hashrate is increasing at an alarming rate. When I joined this pool feb '16, difficulty was 163.5G. It took 11 months to double to 336.9G in Jan '17. It more than doubled again after 6 months in Jun of '17 at 678.6G. Now it's more than doubled again in 4 months to 1452.8G. Fortunately BTC price has more than kept pace. If I remember right BTC was between $200 - $400 then. It disturbs me that the cycle of the hashrate doubling keeps shortening, without the release of a new miner. I know more players have entered the miner market, but they all use the same foundries. Are the foundries getting more efficient at producing and just putting out chips that much more quickly, or has some player come up with a more efficient way to use the existing 16nm chips and just not released it to the public yet? |
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A few weeks ago, maybe 2 months ago, with hash rate 69-70PH took about 10 hours to get to 100% shares.
But now it takes about 25 hours to get to 100% shares with similar hash rate.
Is it all determined by difficulty? It seems that difficulty increases at least at the same pace as BTC price if not out paced much but it won’t go down.
I mine just for fun since electricity cost is very high and it barely break even for that month. I do benefit for the price increase. Now I only get 1/5 of BTC/THs/Day of 4 months ago.
My question is at what point or difficulty level the electricity cost will cause big loss for big miners unless free electricity.
Yes, it makes it that much harder (longer time) to find a block. The difficulty has more than doubled since the start of July. Making it take twice as long to find a block with the same hash rate. |
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Checked all my miners and my best share was with an s9 running BM miner 2.0
best share 27466069988
Unfortunately the 4 e9's don't report a best share, but only list "found blocks 0"
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Payout is WAY WAY WAY over due..there have been tons of blocks found after last maturation..
Pool seems overloaded since latest influx of 90k Th .........luck has been ridiculously bad..
Connectivity problems...
Orphans? where is list of orphans?
If we had an orphan you would know it. Kano makes it very transparent on the pool website. Our payouts are in the mempool. Just unconfirmed due to the backlog of over 20K transactions on the network. Link to a page listing orphans https://blockchain.info/orphaned-blocks |
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Quick question:
When you leave kano pool, for instance, your miner goes down for let's say 24 hours.
How long does it take for your 5n to drop? and also how long does it take to re-ramp up to your maximum 5n payout threshold?
Thanks in advance
It is on the https://kano.is/index.php?k=payout Currently 1day 21hours. It will go up or down with pools hashrate and diff. |
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what's going on 3 days 6 hours no block i am leaving even the worst pool has gotten blocks bye kano
Now I'm SURE our luck will change! LOL  Edit: I seem to recall we had another 700+% block about a year or so ago. Don't remember that number. Anyone? 744.98% was the worst one I could remember during that terrible run of luck last December. Block#1644 took us 93.5 hours Looks like we beat that. Not record that I think any of us wanted to break. Oh well. Keep calm and mine on. |
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Anyone know of an existing alert service or web site/app that I could somehow set up to notify me of when Kano pool hits a block? Like an email would be cool but a text service would be best  Seeing as how we may be here for a bit longer, I just wanted to see if anyone reading this thread/mining in this pool knows of a service to alert me each time Kano pool relays a block... If nothing like that exists I suppose I could investigate a way to do this thru IFTTT or something similar. If you look at the 1st message on the 1st page you'll find your answer. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.0 |
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Yeah the easiest way to get some idea of it, is to go to any of the block listing sites and see the fees on the last 10-50 blocks.
It it's averaging 13.5+ then yaw up for some higher fees if you need to transact.
If it's averaging anything above 14+ then your out of luck and will need to pay very high fees.
Hello Group, What is the url of the block listing site and where do I find the 13.5+ or 14+ number on the site? At this time is the 13.5+ number a good rate to consolidate coins? I need to consolidate some payments and I'm just trying to figure out the best time and way to do it. Thank you, blocktrail.com or blockchain.info or one of the many other block explorer sites that list the found blocks. The 13.5 or 14 Kano is referring to is amount of the block reward + fees. or you can go to https://bitcoinfees.21.co/ for a more graphical display of the current mempool and fees paid for transactions. |
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oh okay, i see now. this was really informative, thanks to all for the help guys. so i should just stick with sending my mining rewards to my exodus wallet then? p.s. apologies for all the long posts Kano. my bad still very new to this and to the bitcoin forum. but learning (and enjoying it here) I don't know anything about exodus. But as long as you control your keys, then yes. The biggest thing to keeping transaction fees low, is the timing of your transaction. Check the site I mentioned previously and gauge when you get can get a smaller transaction fee. Right now you could get one through fairly quickly with 15-25 sats/byte if you had done it yesterday when we were hitting the blocks with lots of mining fees you would have had to put out 200-250 sats/byte to get it through quickly. |
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ok, so bitcoin core is the way to go because it is the most secure? - does it have lower fees too?
So, how do you go about building your mining rewards up to about 10-15 on your profile before consolidating one larger payment to your wallet address?
Electrum is secure. It just is only a wallet. You cannot, as yet, build up your mining rewards in your Kano.is user account. I send my mining rewards to one btc address, when they get to be 10-15 rewards I send them to a second address. I let those build up to about 1 btc or so, and then I send them to a different address or to coinbase or cex.io to sell. |
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Hi guys,
so ive been using exodus as my deposit address. i just logged in and got a pop up saying that i will be paying huge fees if i continue to deposit small amounts.
What wallet can i use to prevent this? or can i change my minimum payout amount in my kano profile?
Anyone else experienced the same situation?
Thanks for the help
Only use Bitcoin Core. i need 150 gb free space on my harddrive for this??  why bitcoin core? is there no other wallet? Can someone please help me out here.. Exodus pretty much saying im going to be paying $39 in transaction fees. what wallet can i use to prevent this? A very secure wallet with ease of use is Airbitz. They also have great customer service. does it solve the problem of no or low deposit transaction fees regarding many small constant payments when we get paid for a block maturing? First rule, if you don't control you private keys then someone else has control of your coins. Online wallets can and have been hacked. If you can't use bitcoin core, because of the space requirements then try Electrum. Second, when consolidating many small amounts in 1 larger one then you will pay fees. No way around it. But if you pick a time when the network is slower and the mempool is small, you can get you consolidation through for less. I try to not let my smaller amounts build up to more than 10 or 15 mining rewards before consolidating. You can check the current recommended transactions fee per byte here https://bitcoinfees.21.co/ |
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why does ping matter when mining?
so found out that im getting an average of 336ms when i ping - stratum.kano.is for the past couple days since i joined the pool on thursday.
pinged the rest of the servers and found that the de and nl is best for me, with the nl being best server for me at 211ms
so in my antminer "miner configeration" would i essential copy and paste it like this - stratum+tcp://nl.kano.is:3333
and for pool 2 stratum+tcp://nl.kano.is:80 etc..
Is this correct?
The ping tells you how long it takes for the work from your miners to reach the node. The longer the time, the greater the chance that your work could be stale by the time it reaches the node. You don't want to put a different port of the same node as your pool 2. Instead, put the next node with 2nd lowest ping time. That way in case the node fails for some reason, you are still mining on the pool. Edit 336ms seems really high for GA to CA. Did you try NYA? It would be the closest physically to your location. When I ping SG (Singapore) from Seattle, I only get 209ms |
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Does everyone leave their miners on 24/7 or do you turn them off during the evening? I'm running 1 s9 and a L3+, just curious what others are doing.
Mine run 24/7. It's the only way to go, unless you have differing power rates by time of day. |
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Makes me glad I dusted off an old s5 the other day. At least at .08 cent power it's slightly profitable again. It would be funny if an s3 became profitable to run again. |
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