Put them in touch with the Bitcoin Foundation - and CC the email to the Foundation as well.
The PM's are through youtube, but I'll be sure to link them to the Foundation's email. The Young Turks are big in liberal/progressive circles. Very big. Cenk, especially, is all over every media outlet there is. As I've mentioned, if you were to draw a Venn diagram of the points of intersection between liberals, progressives, libertarians, conservatives, communists and fascists - and all that lies between on the political spectrum - bitcoin would be the only point of intersection. And frankly, we could use some serious play in the liberal/progressive community - especially in the US. I note that Obama was elected to a second term, so there must be quite a few of them. Here is what I have so far: Thank you for the response. Just today the developer of gmail tweeted "Bitcoin may be the TCP/IP of money." ( https://twitter.com/paultoo/status/328969714283995136). To start, here is a great site that is generally regarded as a sort of "Home Base" for new Bitcoin users, or those interested in learning more: https://www.weusecoins.com/en/. If following links from strangers on the internet isn't your thing, here's their most popular youtube video with an overview of Bitcoins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Um63OQz3bjo. Additionally, this site was founded by the developer of Bitcoin and this particular thread is a comprehensive overview of Bitcoins: https://bitcointalk.org/?topic=7269.0. The first Bitcoin ATM is going to be opened on may 2nd ( https://www.bitcoinatm.com/). Also, paypal's CEO just recently came on the news and mentioned that they are looking into Bitcoin, and possibly adding it as a funding option. I would definitely mention Bitpay which is essentially the paypal of Bitcoin. It allows any company to add a bitcoin payment option to their website for free and then when anyone pays in Bitcoins, they immediately get converted into dollars (or whichever fiat) and deposited into the company's account with a fraction of the fee paypal or a credit card would charge and without any risk of chargebacks or double-spending which is a massive problem in the non-bitcoin world. I could (and would love to) go on forever, but i'll end with The Bitcoin Foundation's contact info (they are essentially the representatives of Bitcoin and consists of most of the largest holders): https://bitcoinfoundation.org/contact. If you have any more questions, please don't hesitate to ask. Edit: not sure if this site was founded by Satoshi, heard it somewhere and figured i'd throw it in so they don't think I'm sending them to some random corner of the internet To me that sounds like you are trying to sell them Bitcoins, not teach them about it. |
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You assume wrongly, sir.
Also to my knowledge he was not reselling steam gifts, but actually buying them and gifting the game to you.
Or giving you a key.
... in exchange for BTC. You know, trading; which is all selling really is. |
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Could have got a C&D from Steam. Reselling Steam game gifts is a ToS violation.
I assume you have an outstanding order?
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Everytime you're dealing with Paypal on a regular basis you're going to get hit with these kinds of scams. It always happens, there's no way around it.
Here are the steps you follow to win every dispute. This is when you're dealing with virtual currencies.
1) Get an email from the person who is buying the item from there VERIFIED Paypal email address. What you want them to include is a filled out order form, you will send this from your REGISTERED paypal email.
Include all the item specifics. So say if you are going to be selling someone a Bitcoin, the order form would look something like this. You can also give them a random order # which will just add onto the evidence.
Product:
Bitcoin Address:
Amount of Purchase:
Is this purchase for Bitcoins (y/n):
2) If you can you need to get some other form of proof such as ID or there phone # attached to the Paypal account. You call the number and ask if they're okay with the payment and you're just making sure etc.
3) Screenshot all the chat logs and your transaction being sent to the BTC address
4) If they reverse the payment upload all the screenshots and information to Paypal Resolution center
I've had disputes filed against me three or four times and using these methods I have won all of them.
I hope you are getting a nice premium on those coins, cause I probably wouldnt do that. Sell coins, PayPal > Bank - 3 days. Bank > Dwolla - 3 days. Buy coins. A lot can happen with BTC in 6 days. Then you are still at risk, even if you won every other time. Plus, that is a lot of work just to hopefully be able to prove a legit purchase. |
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Im not even going for a top 10 tbh, and since I have a family moving around for school isnt for me. You def. sound like you have things more squared away for school than I do though.
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Im applying for MBA school too. The GMAT is kinda crazy.
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thanks for the fast respond guys, i really appreciate it.
However, we still left option #2 open.
what happen if i use paypal to pay someone for their service (freelance designer, outsource dev house) ?? their work isnt consider as virtual item right? it fall into "service" category, does paypal protect the seller in this category??
any input Blazr? CIYAM Open? KWH? DeathAndTaxes?
I honestly cant see this working much better... Granted, I really have not used PayPal in a few years. Maybe the risk is still there, maybe not. The bigger challenge will be getting someone to go along with it. It really does not matter how PayPal views the transaction if no one trusts the most worthless payment processor to ever exist. |
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Long ago I managed to convince PayPal that a buyer who made multiple purchases of digital goods and reversed them was doing it on purpose and gaming the system. I forwarded emails, screenshots of conversations (including from within eBay), and a ton of other proof. It took a lot of work and like a month for them to agree with me. Two weeks later, the buyer created credit card disputes since the PayPal were closed. PayPal immediately refunded all of her money, closed my account because I was a fraudulent seller, and held all of my funds for 6 months.
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Gox ($123.5) : BTC-e ($112)
But once you sell at Gox your looking at x days until the money gets back to your bank, and x days until you can put it back into Bitcoins.
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This site is fairly new isnt it?
Anyways, would you PM some statistics and info. e.g. revenues, expenses, outstanding contracts, legal issues, etc. Ill keep everything in confidence.
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Well you can still only double down once, but you can do it an any time. You also get paid more for having 6-7-8 (even more when suited), 5, 6, or 7 card 21, dont have to wait to push the dealer when you get 21, oh, and there are no 10's in the deck. Literally the 10 card, other face cards are still in play as 10.
I was reading about it here where it says: In some casinos, players may double double down, or redouble up to two times after doubling down. For example: The player bets one unit and is dealt 2-3, giving a hand total of 5; the dealer is showing a 6. The player doubles the first time and draws a 3. The hand total is now 8 and the total amount wagered is two units. The player doubles a second time and draws a 3. The hand total is now 11 and the total amount wagered is four units. When the player doubles a third time on 11, the total amount wagered will be eight units. Redoubling is a profoundly player-advantageous rule, when optimally executed. Ive never played that way. Usually if its a 5 you hit and hope for a 6 to double on. Same with an 8 and 3. Honestly, I probably wouldnt double on a 5 or an 8 anyways, even if I can double again. |
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Hell yeah! Honestly, I probably thought it was Spanish because that is all I really play when I go to the casino
Interesting. That's actually the version of blackjack I was taught by my grandfather when I was about 5. I always thought he was just confused about how to play blackjack but it turns out there really is a game where a 5 card 21 is worth more than a regular 21, and you can double-down 3 times in a row.  Well you can still only double down once, but you can do it an any time. You also get paid more for having 6-7-8 (even more when suited), 5, 6, or 7 card 21, dont have to wait to push the dealer when you get 21, oh, and there are no 10's in the deck. Literally the 10 card, other face cards are still in play as 10. |
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Turns out Im kinda blind and mostly stupid... Not sure why I thought it was Spanish other than Im kinda burnt out today.
No worries! Would you be interested in us adding Spanish 21? We haven't heard any demand for it, but maybe we could add it to our todo list. Hell yeah! Honestly, I probably thought it was Spanish because that is all I really play when I go to the casino (which is far too often...). I dont know how many other people would be interested, or how many actually know what it is, but I would def. be interested. |
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Turns out Im kinda blind and mostly stupid... Not sure why I thought it was Spanish other than Im kinda burnt out today.
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Why cant you double after taking a card? Is this Black Jack or Spanish 21? If the latter, then this is the first time Ive ever played with these rules.
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Hey fwho. Been using your site LGCards.com. Very nice! A copy payment amount would also be nice.
But it got a little weirded out and changed the payment amount after I clicked confirm. I ended up sending 2 different payments to the same address. See below.
1) Didn't receive
Status: 3/unconfirmed, broadcast through 6 nodes
Date: 4/10/2013 20:51
To: 1FPDTEXyFDJVmzRRqYBKTXmK7KKSXisaXf
Debit: -0.0587265 BTC
Transaction fee: -0.0001 BTC
Net amount: -0.0588265 BTC
Transaction ID: 49bc5798a10850d78a2774e560b33ac8228c9e773138f50978908af03db24748
2) Did receive.
Status: 1/unconfirmed, broadcast through 6 nodes
Date: 4/10/2013 20:54
To: 1FPDTEXyFDJVmzRRqYBKTXmK7KKSXisaXf
Debit: -0.0559545 BTC
Transaction fee: -0.0005 BTC
Net amount: -0.0564545 BTC
Transaction ID: db034382c0dbcd459db33f67a455f69432cadc3c26b2c3cdff99f6a4fd73fcc3
Thanks!
Sorry, I have not been on the forums in a little while. Though I believe we got this sorted through email. If not, of if you have any other questions you can email me at support@lgcards.com. |
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Confirmed and PM'd. Thank you.
Got it! Put you on Fav... I have some Bioshock infinite/ crysis 3 codes to trade. if you want to sell any.. lmk I would, but I make it a rule not to sell any codes that any other than myself has seen. Its nothing personal. I actually did think about starting into selling CD Keys and such for awhile. But as for right now my next project is to get my Bitcoin only site up for Gift Cards. I started adding things like Spotify and Hulu Plus cards to Bitmit today to see if there is any interest. |
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