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4661  Economy / Speculation / Re: 25k btc's are about to be dumped on just bitstamp on: October 07, 2014, 10:29:42 AM
there's surely no dump going on.

Cypherdog is the guy Dumping the 25k on Bitstamp! I bet 10 BTC it is him. Early adopter has about 100k BTC, been Dumping in bunches of 25k - 30k the last 48 hours.
Believe me ist him. He wants to cash out.

You're dreaming. In so many ways.

Anyone around Sunday knows how hard I was working to defeat any negative effects of that wall to the community. I was on all day posting trying to lead the charge against the wall and not have people panic or over react and lose their coins.

I've never sold a coin and don't plan to until maybe 2020.  Roll Eyes

Furthermore, if you read the plethora of posts I made you'll see I'm the one calling out Stampfuck and Kodric as to who the seller was.
4662  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 07, 2014, 10:09:04 AM
Andreesen cranking it ;

http://mobile.businessweek.com/news/2014-10-07/andreessen-on-finance-we-can-reinvent-the-entire-thing
4663  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Armory - Discussion Thread on: October 07, 2014, 05:47:35 AM
why do we get this on version check:

Code:
cypher@ubuntu:~$ bitcoind getinfo
bitcoin is very out of date and has been removed.
Please see upstream sources at https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/
or the PPA at https://launchpad.net/~bitcoin/+archive/bitcoin
cypher@ubuntu:~$

bitcoin moved to the ppa you have to install then you can use apt-get

PPA and 0.9.3 already installed and running. Why don't "bitcoind getinfo" return version info like normal?  
4664  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Armory - Discussion Thread on: October 07, 2014, 05:29:34 AM
why do we get this on version check:

Code:
cypher@ubuntu:~$ bitcoind getinfo
bitcoin is very out of date and has been removed.
Please see upstream sources at https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/
or the PPA at https://launchpad.net/~bitcoin/+archive/bitcoin
cypher@ubuntu:~$
4665  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 07, 2014, 04:09:26 AM
lots of investment pouring into the space:
   
Blockchain Is Latest Bitcoin Start-Up to Lure Big Investment

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/10/06/blockchain-is-latest-bitcoin-start-up-to-lure-big-investment/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=1&

Overstock.com Assembles Coders to Create a Bitcoin-Like Stock Market



"SNAPCARD Raises $1.5 Million from Tim Draper." Looks like tim draper is a hard core bitcoin believer

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ig13w/snapcard_raises_15_million_from_tim_draper_looks/
4666  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 07, 2014, 01:41:56 AM
so when exactly is this 51% attack coming? Roll Eyes

4667  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 07, 2014, 01:39:36 AM
geez o meez:

4668  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 07, 2014, 01:32:59 AM
one of the important indicators i use in addition to cycle theory, momentum, stochastics, fibs, etc, is Dow Theory.  the $DJI & $DJT have been moving in lock step so far and one of the structural formations i'm looking for at a major top for the stock mkt is what's called a Dow Theory non-confimation.  that usually means one of the two indices will set a new high while the other fails to do the same.  now that it appears we're getting a short term bounce here right now, i'm watching for this very finding.



4669  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 07, 2014, 01:24:55 AM
no mo trolls = higher prices
4670  Economy / Speculation / Re: Paul krugman on: October 06, 2014, 11:19:23 PM
Niall Ferguson flogs the shit out of Krugman:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphbenko/2013/10/21/much-bigger-than-the-shutdown-niall-fergusons-public-flogging-of-paul-krugman/
4671  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 06, 2014, 07:24:53 PM
in Russia they will not criminalize BTC and the likes.
It will be just fines, expensive for firms, but dealing with cryptomoney
is prohibited for legal entities in Russia anyway.
So all these moves and plans (law is in the stage of a project )
will not affect price of BTC strongly.
It is already prohibited , like everything there LOL
Dont look on this issue like  you all got used to in your nice western law abiding realm.
Russians dont give a fuck about laws, or otherwise they would be dead all together long ago  Tongue


thanks for your perspective.
4672  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 06, 2014, 07:03:34 PM
actually, i'm really glad i sold ZSL 4d ago even though i could've peaked it out Friday, as today's move in silver is strong and ZSL is already well below where i sold.  this could be a decent move for silver:

4673  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 06, 2014, 06:59:33 PM
big daily swing low in silver. may go all the way up and touch resistance. it's time:


4674  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 06, 2014, 06:38:55 PM
...the underlying technology will stick around

The concept, not the technology.

he said the "the technology is cool, i have my doubts about the currency, but the technology will be around".
4675  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 06, 2014, 06:14:43 PM
Jim Rickards on gold & Bitcoin (at the very, very end) with Matt Miller.  once again, somehow in so many ppl's minds, Bitcoin the currency is no good, but the underlying technology will stick around, lol:

http://www.bloomberg.com/video/fundamental-u-s-economy-is-very-weak-rickards-Rg8MTG81QFOIkRqJT6RuVQ.html
4676  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 06, 2014, 05:59:16 PM
we've moved into the window for an intermediate/weekly term low.  while my short cover occurred on 9/30 and was 3d too early, today makes me feel better, as we're getting a decent bounce.  the trick will be if we're forming a daily/short term bottom right now or going to get another push down further into the weekly/intermed term bottom.  nothing has changed in the longer term bearish outlook assuming the top was 1923.  we'll see:

4677  Economy / Speculation / Re: 25k btc's are about to be dumped on just bitstamp on: October 06, 2014, 05:28:16 PM
he didn't just lose $400,000, assuming the calc is correct.

Occam's Razor indicates he also lost control of 30000 BTC.  that's even more important.  i don't buy the idea he bought his own wall.  too much lost in fees when he could just've taken it down.  and he could've backed it up for a higher price.

I think he lost control of ~15k BTC or so, with a good risk of not being able to buy them back < $300

So what's your best guess as to the cause of that wall?

Me, I'm thinking a very early adopter who recently had a big life change, got married planning kids or something? Thought he'd like his new family to live in style.

my best guess was that it was a non-economic actor trying to suppress the price.  why?

1.  as said before, it was an irrational way to sell.  should've been done surreptitiously in smaller chunks on the way up in price action.
2.  the wall was set below all other exchanges by about 4-4.5%.  why take a loss when he could've just backed the wall up to $311 or so where all the other exchanges were priced?
3.  early adopters are inherently bullish and have lived thru about 4 previous episodes of this.  we never got down far enough for them to be in a red position for the most part in order to panic.
4. all the other early adopter addresses were increasing their positions over the last 6 mo.  why would this guy be any different?
5.  the coordinated trolling we have been beset with here on the forum which has now suspiciously disappeared abruptly for the most part.  their message was incessant and irrational and thus highly suspicious in character.  i could tell these guys had no real idea what they were talking about as not one of their arguments came from a technical level meaning they don't really understand Bitcoin.  early adopters do understand these things for the most part.  
6. an early adopter would not have gone out and hired trolls like that if he were panic selling.  early adopters tend to work alone and are generally smarter than this.  they wouldn't troll the price down.
7.  this is what non-economic actors do to disrupt markets they don't like.  we already know this and the playbook is wide open. they don't go out and build mines to perform 51% attacks.  it's easier to create financial havoc.

Wow apparently you know nothing about ASK walls & why they're created... Keep thinking you know more than a whale who just dumped over $7mil in coins in ONE ORDER!  Cheesy

wow, early adopter!  nothing like arguing nothing with nothing!
4678  Economy / Speculation / Re: Paul krugman on: October 06, 2014, 05:24:44 PM
Krugman is a marketing ploy:

http://www.alternet.org/economy/there-no-nobel-prize-economics
4679  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 06, 2014, 05:06:14 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=812616.msg9105676#msg9105676
4680  Economy / Speculation / Re: 25k btc's are about to be dumped on just bitstamp on: October 06, 2014, 05:05:52 PM
he didn't just lose $400,000, assuming the calc is correct.

Occam's Razor indicates he also lost control of 30000 BTC.  that's even more important.  i don't buy the idea he bought his own wall.  too much lost in fees when he could just've taken it down.  and he could've backed it up for a higher price.

I think he lost control of ~15k BTC or so, with a good risk of not being able to buy them back < $300

So what's your best guess as to the cause of that wall?

Me, I'm thinking a very early adopter who recently had a big life change, got married planning kids or something? Thought he'd like his new family to live in style.

my best guess was that it was a non-economic actor trying to suppress the price.  why?

1.  as said before, it was an irrational way to sell.  should've been done surreptitiously in smaller chunks on the way up in price action.
2.  the wall was set below all other exchanges by about 4-4.5%.  why take a loss when he could've just backed the wall up to $311 or so where all the other exchanges were priced?
3.  early adopters are inherently bullish and have lived thru about 4 previous episodes of this.  we never got down far enough for them to be in a red position for the most part in order to panic.
4. all the other early adopter addresses were increasing their positions over the last 6 mo.  why would this guy be any different?
5.  the coordinated trolling we have been beset with here on the forum which has now suspiciously disappeared abruptly for the most part.  their message was incessant and irrational and thus highly suspicious in character.  i could tell these guys had no real idea what they were talking about as not one of their arguments came from a technical level meaning they don't really understand Bitcoin.  early adopters do understand these things for the most part.  
6. an early adopter would not have gone out and hired trolls like that if he were panic selling.  early adopters tend to work alone and are generally smarter than this.  they wouldn't troll the price down.
7.  this is what non-economic actors do to disrupt markets they don't like.  we already know this and the playbook is wide open. they don't go out and build mines to perform 51% attacks.  it's easier to create financial havoc.
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