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10601  Economy / Speculation / Re: Max Price of Bitcoin After Halving on: June 08, 2016, 09:56:42 AM
If I was forced to guess, I would say BTC max price after the halving could reach $750 then go back down to 500 - 600. I'm no expert but that would be my best guess.  A realistic figure of where BTC could go.
10602  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Both Poloniex and YoBit are down! on: June 08, 2016, 02:10:02 AM
It's not surprising that YoBit are not tweeting about their issue, but it is strange for Poloniex! Are they both under DDoS attack or we are facing Armageddon here?

Althogh it was far from altcoin armageddon, exchanges have no excuse when they go offline. What kind of an online exchange allows that to happen? That's a red flag in my book. Albeit a minor one, but still a red flag. They should do better.
10603  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Lisk making a move on: June 08, 2016, 01:16:45 AM
I think LISK will continue to go up for the next few weeks and crash like any other altcoin as soon as btc halvening effects kicks in.

But Lisk have a huge community, It can be a clear signal of that it is different.



On the coat-tails of Ethereum we are seeing the next shitcoin wave salted with "smart" contracts:
Lisk (= Crypti pig + lipstick), Expanse ("b'cause we can"),  Uther ("fair premine for the developers  copy cats") ...
Remember BTC -> LTC -> FTC?




Barring the good intentions of the devs of these projects, yes. Sad but true. Ethereum ICO has shown that there's a market for smart contracts that people could buy into. Now every other dev wants to join the bandwagon and make lots of money. I am not saying that's bad, but it's the reality and nature of things. Plus a little competition between platforms is always good.

If there is a market for a new idea then 1st mover coin delivering that idea takes it all.
Me too copy cats are always growing slower than 1st mover.
At best copy cat shitcoins are a winning proposition for their "developers".

Code:
sed -i 's/parent_coin_name/copy_cat_name/g' *


does not bring innovation. But at least funny things can happen when fast & dirty copy cats are at work:

Quote
Jeffrey Wilcke @obscuren May 25 13:44
@chrisfranko https://github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse/blob/master/COPYING#L4
you can’t change the GPL copyright, only for individual new files that you add to your repository.
In expanse-project/go-expanse@d368397 commit you basically changed all headers from
"go-ethereum" to "go-expanse"
and you've changed the AUTHORS file to go-expanse.
Not only is this not true, this is also highly unfair to those that have contributed their time to the go-ethereum project.
I ask you kindly that you revert all these changes.

Péter Szilágyi @karalabe May 25 13:50
@obscuren lol Jeffrey Wilcke <jeffrey@expanse.org>

Jeffrey Wilcke @obscuren May 25 13:50
If you’d like to claim copyright to individual changed files please mody the header such that you’re credited
and rightfully copyrighted to the right places using Portions (c) go-expanse
lol
But don’t remove the current copyright
I suspect you did a grep on ethereum and replaced it all with expanse and that you’re not even awara of these changes.
Considering that I have an expanse email address I’m unaware of

...

Christopher Franko @chrisfranko May 25 18:14
@obscuren oh crap! Im very sorry. Yes thats exactly what happened, ill fix that in a little while for you.
Because you are completely right it would be unfair. ^_^ Also if you want I can forward that email to your ethereum email


https://gitte[Suspicious link removed]/ethereum/go-ethereum?at=574590206bbc2d1d4dedf355




That's dirty and funny at the same time because they are claiming what's obviously not theres. Devs today.
10604  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Augur competitor ...Gnosis on: June 08, 2016, 01:11:26 AM
The same can be said with Augur. They are only after the ICO funds, one can argue. There was a thread around here that states that Augur is a broken system and that the founders knew about this and yet continued and collected BTC thru their ICO. It was very technical but the evidence shown was very compelling.

Personally, I am waiting for Hivemind release.
10605  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ETH vs btc? on: June 08, 2016, 12:48:44 AM
BTC is still king. There's already so much investment built around BTC that it has very much a life of its own. Any fall in price is immediately supported and bought by the people waiting in the sidelines to hold long term. LONG TERM. It has become an asset that people are willing to store like gold.
10606  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Most Exciting Bitcoin Projects! on: June 08, 2016, 12:30:16 AM

Do a lot of people use Bitsquare? This seems to be a breakthrough in trading platforms. I'm wondering why there's no clamor behind it.

Not yet, it probably needs to reach critical mass before tons of people start using it.

Its still early release with many bugs so people need more time to get comfortable with it.

But can I do trades in it now? I downloaded it but I still have not installed it yet.
10607  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Augur competitor ...Gnosis on: June 07, 2016, 08:26:42 PM
Nothing much except that it will use Ethereum as its base platform. They haven't started their ICO yet, so maybe they will make a proposal to The DAO in order to get funded. I'm not really sure but that's how I see it. The DAO is holding enough capital to seed fund 20 - 30 projects. It could be more.
10608  Economy / Speculation / Re: What happens when Chinese speculators enter Bitcoin market? on: June 07, 2016, 07:56:36 PM
Speculating is a widespread hobby in China. We can see this quite well based on the past years. First, the Chinese invested heavily in real estate. When the market slowed, the speculators turned to the Chinese stock market. As it slowly collapsed last year, most speculators got into the natural resources sector and caused rising prices. It is only a matter of time before the Chinese speculating in a big way with Bitcoin and crypto currencies. What do you expect in this case, when suddenly hundreds of thousands more people are speculating with crypto coins with high leverage?

Prices quickly go up due to the sudden surge, then go down due to them leaving. But I hope they invest in BTC for the long term, that way we see some investment trickle down to other cryptos too, hopefully.
10609  Economy / Securities / Re: Where should I invest after the halving?! on: June 07, 2016, 03:34:49 PM
Gambling sites? But according to some people, it is not advisable or you can't earn much Bitcoin on gambling because there is no assurance. You might lost on the long run. I'm looking for a long term investments.
He's referring to a bankroll though, and if I remember correctly, it is like directly investing in the site and they pay you money for either x amount of time till you get x return, x amount of money indefinitely or until they close or you withdraw your original investment, or something else.

Similar to investing in a company, but in this instance you give them the money directly and they pay you accordingly.

A bankroll? What gambling sites do this? And what usually are their terms?

Is there a thread in the forum showing how this works?
10610  Economy / Securities / Re: Where should I invest after the halving?! on: June 07, 2016, 03:20:08 PM
According to some discussions, most of the mining sites will close after the halving. Then where should I invest to earn Bitcoin? It is not advisable to deposit to HYIP because most of it are SCAM! Do you have any idea where to earn bitcoin after the halving?

Just hold your coins if you aren't sure.
10611  Other / Off-topic / Re: What's your favourite country? on: June 07, 2016, 01:41:33 PM
Finland.
10612  Other / Off-topic / Re: MMA News Thread on: June 07, 2016, 01:35:18 PM
http://editi[Suspicious link removed]/2016/06/07/sport/kimbo-slice-death/

Kimbo Slice died of a heart attack in Florida. RIP.
10613  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Most Exciting Bitcoin Projects! on: June 07, 2016, 01:24:22 PM
List of decentralized cryptocurrency exchanges:

https://bitsquare.io/

http://mercuryex.com/

http://www.coincer.org/

https://etherex.org/

Of which BITSQUARE is the closest of being complete, it will launch on April 27th:


Do a lot of people use Bitsquare? This seems to be a breakthrough in trading platforms. I'm wondering why there's no clamor behind it.
10614  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bitcoin is PedoCoin - this is getting ridiculous on: June 07, 2016, 12:58:44 PM
He should be locked in a prison and the key thrown away. How did it get to a point where he raped 200 children? That's a lot.
Now it'd be even creepier if he took dogecoin for his services and almost funny if it was ethereum.

Hahaha! Because he thinks that furry little Doge icon is really cute and attracts kids.
10615  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: PH is now considering Bitcoin on: June 07, 2016, 10:51:36 AM
Read the article. Please change the thread title, it is deceiving. That article only says that it will tighten regulations on cryptocurrencies. No mention of the Phil. government of promoting its use or anything.
10616  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: does anyone remember... on: June 07, 2016, 10:33:16 AM
When Bitcoin was called a scam, a ponzi-scheme, a joke? Does anyone remember back in 2013: The greater fools that ended up paying $1200/BTC? Or the time several million BTC just appeared out of nowhere and the entire system had to be restored?

Several million appeared out of nowhere? When and how did this happen?
10617  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UFC 200 Brock Lesnar Vs Mark Hunt on: June 07, 2016, 08:34:11 AM
I'm curious what the odds are in the Lesnar - Hunt fight. I think here's some value in betting for Lesnar. I hope he is training well though. Mark Hunt is no push over in the HW division but he could only have a slight edge vs Lesnar.

Lesnar is HUGE and imposing and could knock hunt out in one punch.
10618  Other / Meta / Can't post pics on: June 07, 2016, 08:23:35 AM
I seem to cannot post pictures. All that comes out is the link. Is there something wrong?
10619  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UFC 200 Brock Lesnar Vs Mark Hunt on: June 07, 2016, 08:01:50 AM
Brock Lesner doesn't even have the body to land swing MMV moves.There is not much logic involved here,Mark will win the match anyway.You can simply put the money without giving it a thought.Brock keeps dropping off the scene from MMA to WWE and other 10 leagues.Moreover his issues with the manager are keeping him occupied to actually practice.On the other side Mark will put him to sleep.


This will not be a thrill match.  I'm betting the fight in favor of Mark.  But still Who ever gets hit by that lucky fatal blow will surely take a nice space on the floor otherwise the tank is well conditioned.

Yeah, that tends to happen in HW fights. One mistake the  boom, your opponent throws a hard punch sending you to the canvass. Making the fight more exciting and unpredictable. Can't wait to watch this one.
10620  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I've got $20k to invest. Please recommend! on: June 07, 2016, 07:17:20 AM
Hey folks,

I've finally got around $20k to invest in long-term. No, unfortunately I cannot put this on a bank to get like 10-15% per year, I'd need something way more good.
What would you recommend? Mining? Other crypto?

Investors, please get me some cool ideas.

Thanks in advance,
Marcell

The whole 20k? I suggest to wait for a good opportunity to buy BTC. Buy when the price goes down then stablizes.
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