Путинизм головного мозга какой то, не делай себе идола никогда!
Даже из Лёшки Навального нельзя идола делать? Как же так? А кому же тогда школота поклоняться будет? |
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Blackbytes showed up only on one device in 1-3 multisig wallet. Why is that?
Edit: After 4 hours showed up on another one, third one is still missing BB.
Make sure they are all updated to the latest version and can chat with each other. If any of the devices runs a full wallet, it must be synced in order to see the funds. They are all light, two android, one desktop, same version 1.8.4. Just tried to send all funds from multisig wallet to regular wallet on desktop. Bytes went ok, same balance on all 3 devices. For black bytes, only desktop shows correct balance, android signers show complete crap. P.S. I am going to delete multisig wallet, create a new one and try to send some black bytes there. Do they chat with each other? . Do anybody else has this problem?Your special problem I have not, but the strongly diverging synchronizing times I can confirm 2 of 3 multiple device (light) wallet low budget smartphone (android 6.01) Fire Tab Android (fire OS 5.3) fast laptop (WIN 10) At the distribution: Transition bot reported distribution (chat message via smartphone) and the GBB credit was immediately displayed on laptop. ~20 minutes later on Fire-Tab, ~30 minutes later on the smartphone. Display GB and GBB after syncronization both correct. As a very rough rule I would say: Synchronization and display on my laptop (SSD) very very fast (2 seconds). Fire Tab sometimes slow (0.5-5 minutes), but that is o.k. Samsung galaxy mini synchronization (sometimes) very slow (5-10 minutes). I guess: The syncronization time depends heavily on the read / write performance of the devices? Ok, I had a personal conversation with tonych and it turns out that my second transaction (the one which stalled) has a very large payload (over 10Kbytes) and androids were falling asleep before they could sync their wallets. As tonych suggested, I put sleep time at maximum (30 mins) and left byteball in foreground. After little less than 30 mins both devices went through sync and now show correct balance and transaction history (a tablet went through faster than a phone). However, I decided to stay away from using android wallet for time being, since such a slow sync time makes it not very convenient. Hope that syncing will be optimized in the future. |
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Blackbytes showed up only on one device in 1-3 multisig wallet. Why is that?
Edit: After 4 hours showed up on another one, third one is still missing BB.
Make sure they are all updated to the latest version and can chat with each other. If any of the devices runs a full wallet, it must be synced in order to see the funds. They are all light, two android, one desktop, same version 1.8.4. Just tried to send all funds from multisig wallet to regular wallet on desktop. Bytes went ok, same balance on all 3 devices. For black bytes, only desktop shows correct balance, android signers show complete crap. P.S. I am going to delete multisig wallet, create a new one and try to send some black bytes there. Do they chat with each other? Yes, they did chat. I deleted multisig wallet (sent all funds to regular wallet on desktop before this), reinstalled byteball on anroid devices, paired devices again, created a new miltisig wallet and sent some black bytes there. Now, all 3 devices show the correct balance. The only glitch I had, I can't delete old paired android devices from desktop after I reinstalled byteball, so I renamed them. P.S. OOPS! Sent another black byte transaction from regular to miltisig wallet and again desktop shows correct balance, but androids show me crap. They chat ok between each other. PPS It looks like android has a hard time to sync between multisig devices. Syncing indicator goes forever and each time after it finishes it shows different black byte balance which is incorrect. Do anybody else has this problem? |
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Blackbytes showed up only on one device in 1-3 multisig wallet. Why is that?
Edit: After 4 hours showed up on another one, third one is still missing BB.
Make sure they are all updated to the latest version and can chat with each other. If any of the devices runs a full wallet, it must be synced in order to see the funds. They are all light, two android, one desktop, same version 1.8.4. Just tried to send all funds from multisig wallet to regular wallet on desktop. Bytes went ok, same balance on all 3 devices. For black bytes, only desktop shows correct balance, android signers show complete crap. P.S. I am going to delete multisig wallet, create a new one and try to send some black bytes there. |
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My multisig wallet got out of sync. Two devices show black bytes which came from distribution correctly, by the third one does not show the last transaction. How can I force multisig wallet to sync between all devices?
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Blackbytes showed up only on one device in 1-3 multisig wallet. Why is that?
Edit: After 4 hours showed up on another one, third one is still missing BB.
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Ну вообще-то основная функция байта - предотвращение спама. Это значит, что у каждого пользователя их должно быть достаточно много, чтобы нормально пользоваться сетью, но недостаточно много, чтобы спамить. Способ раздачи противоречит этой функции. Сейчас любой кит может при желании заспамить сеть в хлам своими бесплатными терабайтами.
Ну во первых много, это сколько? Одного мегабайта тебе на очень долго хватит, отправлять транзакции. А по текущему курсу это всего 20 центов. Во вторых именно для предотвращения спама байтболы должны быть умеренно дорогими. В третьих киту спамить сеть? Зачем? Если он кит, то он потеряет от спама, так как его байты будут обесцениваться, а ещё это вовсе не бесплатно, т.к. он тратит байты на транзакции а они стоят денег, какой смысл просто тратить байты если можно их продать? Самые крупные киты - это ICO, прямые конкуренты байтбола. Терабайты они получили совершенно бесплатно, запсамить байтбол в ноль им не будет стоить ничего, если они захотят конечно. А мне кажется они будут сидеть тише воды, ниже травы, ведь такое количество им досталось грубо говоря в придачу к ico фонду. Но реализовать его в битки и не обвалив при этом курс сейчас нет никакой возможности. По этому сидят и ждут момента. к тому же это их запасной парашют и сами себе стропы резать не будут Вопрос не в том, что они будут или не будут делать, и почему. Проблема в том, что они могут заспамить сеть легко, а значит существует дыра в безопасности, а значит байты не выполняют свою анти-спам функцию. Это объективный факт. |
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Ну вообще-то основная функция байта - предотвращение спама. Это значит, что у каждого пользователя их должно быть достаточно много, чтобы нормально пользоваться сетью, но недостаточно много, чтобы спамить. Способ раздачи противоречит этой функции. Сейчас любой кит может при желании заспамить сеть в хлам своими бесплатными терабайтами.
Ну во первых много, это сколько? Одного мегабайта тебе на очень долго хватит, отправлять транзакции. А по текущему курсу это всего 20 центов. Во вторых именно для предотвращения спама байтболы должны быть умеренно дорогими. В третьих киту спамить сеть? Зачем? Если он кит, то он потеряет от спама, так как его байты будут обесцениваться, а ещё это вовсе не бесплатно, т.к. он тратит байты на транзакции а они стоят денег, какой смысл просто тратить байты если можно их продать? Самые крупные киты - это ICO, прямые конкуренты байтбола. Терабайты они получили совершенно бесплатно, запсамить байтбол в ноль им не будет стоить ничего, если они захотят конечно. Что значит ничего не стоить? Если вы нашли чемодан с баксами, вы что будете ими печь топить раз они вам на халяву достались? Что захочу, то и буду делать. Мне это не будет стоить ничего. Что не понятно? |
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Ну вообще-то основная функция байта - предотвращение спама. Это значит, что у каждого пользователя их должно быть достаточно много, чтобы нормально пользоваться сетью, но недостаточно много, чтобы спамить. Способ раздачи противоречит этой функции. Сейчас любой кит может при желании заспамить сеть в хлам своими бесплатными терабайтами.
Ну во первых много, это сколько? Одного мегабайта тебе на очень долго хватит, отправлять транзакции. А по текущему курсу это всего 20 центов. Во вторых именно для предотвращения спама байтболы должны быть умеренно дорогими. В третьих киту спамить сеть? Зачем? Если он кит, то он потеряет от спама, так как его байты будут обесцениваться, а ещё это вовсе не бесплатно, т.к. он тратит байты на транзакции а они стоят денег, какой смысл просто тратить байты если можно их продать? Самые крупные киты - это ICO, прямые конкуренты байтбола. Терабайты они получили совершенно бесплатно, запсамить байтбол в ноль им не будет стоить ничего, если они захотят конечно. |
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- чтобы на "жирные" битковые кошели начислялось поменьше, а малоимущим чуток побольше - вот это было-б дело!
а к чему такое распределение - даже по чесноку всем на каждый биток баланса не устраивает? зачем плодить малоимущих? накружил битка - получи по трудам своим Ну вообще-то основная функция байта - предотвращение спама. Это значит, что у каждого пользователя их должно быть достаточно много, чтобы нормально пользоваться сетью, но недостаточно много, чтобы спамить. Способ раздачи противоречит этой функции. Сейчас любой кит может при желании заспамить сеть в хлам своими бесплатными терабайтами. |
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Security and convenience Notice for users of these hubs
byteroll.com - 1gbit unlimited in North Europe.
e.byteroll.com - 1gbit unlimited in North America
s.byteroll.com - 200mbit in Singapore.
They do not have the "Push notifications" enabled, as that requires Google Cloud Messaging/Google-Services to function. When using those hubs you wont receive push notifications / when someone sends you a Chat message in Byteball, you wont be notified until you look at the Byteball app.
This is in my opinion a security precaution, to not give any data not even 1 byte to Google for using Byteball, either the hub or the Byteball app. The information Google receives when using push-notifications is at least "Android phone Y has message available for delivery at datetimestamp ...", in my opinion that is too much information.
Further, the hubs and witness wont ever reveal your IP address as is done by the byteball.fr/worldmap. There is no logs on the above hubs, logs go to /dev/null.
Other hubs you can use is blackbytes.me/bb which isnt mine.
Can't sync the wallet connected to e.byteroll.com/bb. Other devices connected to different hubs synced with no problem. |
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Битки уже можно переводить обратно или лучше подождать когда прилетят байты? По идее снимок сделан, все свободны?  Нужно ждать несколько часов, на случай если случится реорганизация биткойна. |
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Разработчик писал, что на 6-м раунде раздачи, возможно, поменяют соотношение получаемых байтов к биткоину, чтобы увеличить ценность самого байта. Интересно, что бы это значило?
Дай подумать... Наверное, это значит, что за один биткойн будут давать меньше байтов. Нет? |
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I have a serious problem using Byteball today.
There are two multidevice wallets. Their balances were the same initially, but now they are not. And the total amount of bytes at all addresses is not equal to the wallet balance. That's true for both wallets. Wallets have just the same list of addresses, but the balance at the same address differs from each other: one wallet shows, say, zero, the other - another sum. Anybody faced this problem? How to solve?
I had similar problem when one of my mobile wallet was out of sync, and could not sync for quite a long time for some reason. After it synced, balance became the same as explorer.bytball.org and desktop wallet show. If your wallet can't sync, you may try to used some other hub instead of default. |
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First you need to find somebody (a person) to be a party (peer) to your contract. Than you need to pair your device inside wallet with that other person and you can offer a contract via chat. When your peer accepts your contract offer - BOOM! It's done - peer-to-peer contract. Yeah, and this brings usefulness of these "smart" contracts pretty much close to zero. I can't imagine anybody in good mind going to slack to search for a peer when he wants to buy air ticket insurance. Insurance is a deal between many peers. Those policy holders who are not affected by insured event pay to those who are affected. Normally, insurance company connects them all together. If somebody implements insurance without a middleman, this will be cool, but this two-side betting in chat bot is never going to work. This can be easily overcome with a simple website where ppl can place their offers (both providing insurance and seeking insurance) - once you see a suitible offer you just pair via wallet and finalize contract. Pretty simple. You don't go to slack to sell your used phone. You go to ebay and submit an offer. The same applies to finding a counterparty to a peer to peer contract. A trade is indeed a deal between two parties, but insurance is not. Insurance is a group contract. It works completely differently than a trade. Those who are not affected by insured event pay to those who are affected. Same with prediction markets, it is a group betting between many peers. If everybody is right or everybody is wrong, nobody wins, but if you bet against the crowd when the crowd is wrong, you win a lot. You must be kidding. No, I am serious. This chat bot betting is not going to work, because it is wrong. Tell me, how many bets were made up to now. It doesn't matter. Yeah, right. If the point of byteball is to create things which don't matter, have fun. How many emails were sent in 1988? In contrast to many other things, email does matter. This is because it is done the right way. |
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First you need to find somebody (a person) to be a party (peer) to your contract. Than you need to pair your device inside wallet with that other person and you can offer a contract via chat. When your peer accepts your contract offer - BOOM! It's done - peer-to-peer contract. Yeah, and this brings usefulness of these "smart" contracts pretty much close to zero. I can't imagine anybody in good mind going to slack to search for a peer when he wants to buy air ticket insurance. Insurance is a deal between many peers. Those policy holders who are not affected by insured event pay to those who are affected. Normally, insurance company connects them all together. If somebody implements insurance without a middleman, this will be cool, but this two-side betting in chat bot is never going to work. This can be easily overcome with a simple website where ppl can place their offers (both providing insurance and seeking insurance) - once you see a suitible offer you just pair via wallet and finalize contract. Pretty simple. You don't go to slack to sell your used phone. You go to ebay and submit an offer. The same applies to finding a counterparty to a peer to peer contract. A trade is indeed a deal between two parties, but insurance is not. Insurance is a group contract. It works completely differently than a trade. Those who are not affected by insured event pay to those who are affected. Same with prediction markets, it is a group betting between many peers. If everybody is right or everybody is wrong, nobody wins, but if you bet against the crowd when the crowd is wrong, you win a lot. You must be kidding. No, I am serious. This chat bot betting is not going to work, because it is wrong. Tell me, how many bets were made up to now? |
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First you need to find somebody (a person) to be a party (peer) to your contract. Than you need to pair your device inside wallet with that other person and you can offer a contract via chat. When your peer accepts your contract offer - BOOM! It's done - peer-to-peer contract. Yeah, and this brings usefulness of these "smart" contracts pretty much close to zero. I can't imagine anybody in good mind going to slack to search for a peer when he wants to buy air ticket insurance. Insurance is a deal between many peers. Those policy holders who are not affected by insured event pay to those who are affected. Normally, insurance company connects them all together. If somebody implements insurance without a middleman, this will be cool, but this two-side betting in chat bot is never going to work. This can be easily overcome with a simple website where ppl can place their offers (both providing insurance and seeking insurance) - once you see a suitible offer you just pair via wallet and finalize contract. Pretty simple. You don't go to slack to sell your used phone. You go to ebay and submit an offer. The same applies to finding a counterparty to a peer to peer contract. A trade is indeed a deal between two parties, but insurance is not. Insurance is a group contract. It works completely differently than a trade. Those who are not affected by insured event pay to those who are affected. Same with prediction markets, it is a group betting between many peers. If everybody is right or everybody is wrong, nobody wins, but if you bet against the crowd when the crowd is wrong, you win a lot. |
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First you need to find somebody (a person) to be a party (peer) to your contract. Than you need to pair your device inside wallet with that other person and you can offer a contract via chat. When your peer accepts your contract offer - BOOM! It's done - peer-to-peer contract. Yeah, and this brings usefulness of these "smart" contracts pretty much close to zero. I can't imagine anybody in good mind going to slack to search for a peer when he wants to buy air ticket insurance. Insurance is a deal between many peers. Those policy holders who are not affected by insured event pay to those who are affected. Normally, insurance company connects them all together. If somebody implements insurance without a middleman, this will be cool, but this two-side betting in chat bot is never going to work. |
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Someone says me how to sign in to my wallet balance after i reinstall windows or i buy a new PC and install on him byteball wallet, how to sign in to my wallet balance  Easy to sign the message if you are using bitcoin core wallet or online hot wallet blockchain. So which wallet you are using to store your bitcoins or send the desire amount to chatbot to link your address for next distribution. i think you not undrerstand me.If i reinstall the windows and then install byterball wallet how i can get to my byteball balance ? I dont see any login or some secrets words to restor eaccess to my balances ? There is no log in. Your wallet is a file on your PC, use back up, or better use multi-signature wallet. |
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Очень благодарен.Буду пробовать замутить.Главное что бы битболи не потерялись при етом всём деле  Отдельно отмечу, что мультикошелек с двумя сигнатурами(который у меня сейчас), для хранения больших сумм, я сейчас бы побоялся использовать (хотя это мое скромное дилетанское мнение). Мало ли с одним что-то случится. А при восстановлении по сиду - не уверен что можно будет в этом случае восстановить. Лучше делать с несколько устройств но с одной сигнатурой (хотя вероятность взлома/физическо кражи устройства, тут наоборот выше). Но так делать еще не пробовал. Если кто попробует и потом проведет с ним эксперименты, с удовольствием прочитаю, если тут напишите. буду пробовать синхронизировать кошель с компа-смартфона с одной сигнатурой или без. Хз как уже получится.Еще в етом неразбирался.С 2 сигнатурами точно не буду мутить Делайте всегда избыточную мультиподпись. Например 1 из 3, или 2 из 3, но не 2 из 2. |
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