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1041  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Genesis-Mining Review on: November 27, 2014, 03:00:04 AM
Come back, baby! I have good referrals for you!  :lol:
1042  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Genesis-Mining Review on: November 27, 2014, 02:47:48 AM
Gimme an effing break. You´re happy with dead money
because it´s somehow supposed to be "legit". Yeah right
how brainwashed can you be.

All the best and good luck, g

Dude, you need to buy some sense of humor. It may be a useful investment for you ))))

To be serious, I support the point made hundred of times on this forum: cloud mining companies are very risky investment. Those, which play clean, are damn unprofitable. Those, which are profitable at the moment, stink like devil's ass. This does not stop me from trying, just for the sake of curiosity. I invested ~0.25 btc in a dozen of them during last month. I have now 0.09 btc back. The most profitable are those, where I got good promotion discounts, or a lot of referrals, or was lucky to sell my shares at ridiculously high price.
1043  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Advice for new users regarding CLOUD MINING on: November 26, 2014, 10:58:39 PM
My best advice for new users regarding cloud mining is to be very careful. Most, if not all, of these cloud mining sites are either scams or money losers.

Keep these in mind if you are considering cloud mining:

1. A cloud mining site is a prime opportunity for a Ponzi scheme. Customers pay a bunch of money up front and don't expect a profit for several months.
2. "Instant mining" sites don't make sense because the operator makes more money if they don't sell their hashing power to you.
3. The rising difficulty means your hash power will earn less and less over time.
4. Maintenance fees are usually more expensive than they seem. The maintenance fee could exceed your mining revenue in just a few months.
5. Cloud mining contracts that start in the future must be valued using the future difficulty, and not the current difficulty.

I would disagree on item 2. If you have peta-hashes of mining hardware, selling stock shares instead of selling hardware can make a good sense under certain circumstances.
1044  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Ripple on: November 26, 2014, 10:41:41 PM
Ну это явно кто-то пампит и скоро будет дампить.
1045  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DIODE {X13} POS /\ Buy things in DiodeMarket! /\ 4 Exchanges /\ Updated on: November 26, 2014, 02:51:45 AM


А ты сам чьих будешь, чюрька?
1046  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: https://hashie.co 10Ghsh free. But no withdraw until you buy Ghash! on: November 25, 2014, 02:12:31 PM
How much is the price of that min.20ghs?

check the market on hashie.co
1047  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: https://hashie.co 10Ghsh free. But no withdraw until you buy Ghash! on: November 25, 2014, 02:11:56 PM
Yeah...that kind of sucks that we have to purchase 20Ghs. Undecided

It is not that bad. You can buy 20Ghs at the market with discount, then re-sell it with premium, and end up with 10Ghs free miner. You will be able to withdraw after you sell your miner.
1048  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin too volatile? on: November 25, 2014, 02:06:35 PM
Things like bitcoin can not be stable due to pre-scheduled supply rate. Market demand always varies, and since supply can not be adjusted to demand, bitcoin price will always be volatile.
1049  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Hashie.co - Cloud Mining from 0.0012 BTC / GH | NEW: AMHash | FREE 10 GH on: November 25, 2014, 01:56:01 PM
Yeahhh! Done!!! Sold a payed miner at the market at ridiculous high price. I wonder who bought it? This does not make sense, since you can buy a cheaper miner with lower fees at store.

The bottom line: I am left with 10 GHs miner which cost me $3 (market fees) and which I can not sell.
1050  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Hashie.co - Cloud Mining from 0.0012 BTC / GH | NEW: AMHash | FREE 10 GH on: November 25, 2014, 04:16:23 AM
I'm undecided as yet, but Requiring people to purchase mining power before being able to cash out is pretty reasonable I think,  after all, we could sign up using multiple IP addresses and just claim loads of free 10GH Hash power.
No one is going to be able to give away lots of 10GH Freebies.



In fact, they are true freebies, since you can sell payed miner, cash out and still have a free miner making you btc. I bet some people are exploiting this glitch with hundreds of accounts.
1051  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: https://hashie.co 10Ghsh free. But no withdraw until you buy Ghash! on: November 25, 2014, 03:30:00 AM
how minimum must buy ghash, before withdraw?

20 but it is a waste of money.
1052  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Hashie.co - Cloud Mining from 0.0012 BTC / GH | NEW: AMHash | FREE 10 GH on: November 25, 2014, 03:28:52 AM
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Perhaps you would have received a response if you contacted us on official support channels (ie, the contact form) instead of starting a completely unrelated flame war with another use in this thread.

Another shity statement from shity company. I don't start anything here. I voice out valid complains here, and get shit talk in return. For morons without any brains I repeat twice, my complains here are absolutely VALID.

https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOiYdHxr.jpg%26t%3D546%26c%3DOtC6eC9Y71fnXQ&t=546&c=WznqNGofASM0oQ


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Due to your past behavior, your Bitcointalk account is on my ignore list on Bitcointalk. For support, use the contact form.

And this is totally wonderful. Nice way to talk to people whom you owe money. [removed some more text for now]
1053  Other / Off-topic / Re: Beer vs. Water on: November 25, 2014, 01:18:36 AM
water because alcohol makes you unsexy - it's the worst of the hard drugs

It is bad enough, but not the worst for sure. And, in contrast to other drugs, it is legal.
1054  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin too volatile? on: November 25, 2014, 01:12:55 AM
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Assuming that we want bitcoin to replace the current paper currency

Only 3% of money in the world is printed in paper. Almost all of it exist in electronic accounts only.

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So, does anyone here believe that bitcoin can replace the $?

In gambling, smuggling and money laundering very likely.
1055  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Genesis-Mining Review on: November 25, 2014, 12:56:10 AM
This crap will never going to ROI. On the other hand, this is a sign that they are really mining, in contrast to other scam "cloud mining" services. Their payouts decrease proportionally to difficulty increase. I am pleased to lose my dear money with a legit company  Cry
1056  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: https://hashie.co 10Ghsh free. But no withdraw until you buy Ghash! on: November 24, 2014, 10:49:02 PM
The statement on the screenshot is false. You do not need to own a payed miner to be able to withdraw, you need to buy it. You can quit anytime selling your miner at the market with discount and ridiculously high fee, and withdraw your funds. Your free miner will still run and produce btc for you.
1057  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Hashie.co - Cloud Mining from 0.0012 BTC / GH | NEW: AMHash | FREE 10 GH on: November 24, 2014, 10:40:52 PM
Here is a screenshot from another hashie thread

https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOiYdHxr.jpg%26t%3D546%26c%3DOtC6eC9Y71fnXQ&t=546&c=WznqNGofASM0oQ

So, the statement on this screenshot is false.
1058  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Hashie.co - Cloud Mining from 0.0012 BTC / GH | NEW: AMHash | FREE 10 GH on: November 24, 2014, 10:32:59 PM

You absolutely can withdraw without a payed miner, if you bought a miner at some point in time. This means that you can buy hashing power and sell off everything you have and pull out the BTC if you choose to go that path.

It is not explicitly stated anywhere, and sale fee is too damn high to try just to figure out that you may be not able to withdraw. I complained about this issue multiple times on this thread, first time several pages ago, and got no response from anybody affiliated with hashie. Instead, one moron wrote a shitload of stupid crap at my address. Where have you been, dude, you would save me so much typing? Thanks anyway.

1059  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Hashie.co - Cloud Mining from 0.0012 BTC / GH | NEW: AMHash | FREE 10 GH on: November 24, 2014, 07:17:41 PM

There is not much difference between 5 year and 1 year, because after 1 year, u'll literally earn Satoshis in a month span, unless difficulty deeps down. Moreover, selling out is a bad exit strategy as sales commission will eat up your profit most of the time as discussed here...



No, selling out would be a good exit strategy, even with these ridiculous fees. But they don't let you to sell out. To be exact, you can sell out, but you can't withdraw your btc after this.


Maybe you just aren't smart enough to figure it out? I can't come up with any other explanation.

I sold 1.4 Th/s on Hashie and took all my BTC out within minutes after doing it. That 1.4 Th/s was all my hashing power at the time besides the free miner. I got my BTC out without a single hiccup.

Sounds like user error to me  Roll Eyes

This does not make any sense, since they explicitly tell you that you are not able to withdraw without  a payed miner, but I'll follow your advise and try to sell. Nothing makes sense in their service anyway.

thanks for advise
 
1060  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Hashie.co - Cloud Mining from 0.0012 BTC / GH | NEW: AMHash | FREE 10 GH on: November 24, 2014, 03:23:28 PM

There is not much difference between 5 year and 1 year, because after 1 year, u'll literally earn Satoshis in a month span, unless difficulty deeps down. Moreover, selling out is a bad exit strategy as sales commission will eat up your profit most of the time as discussed here...



No, selling out would be a good exit strategy, even with these ridiculous fees. But they don't let you to sell out. To be exact, you can sell out, but you can't withdraw your btc after this.
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