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401  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why such agreement that Deflationary currency is a bad thing on: April 28, 2013, 04:58:12 PM
We have far too many inflationary currencies. So it feels right to have something different for people who believe that reasonable deflation is in fact a good thing. Spending and investment is not always good. It can lead to malvestment or spending "just for the spending". People will think twice, maybe three times before spending and they will buy only goods they really need. Loans would be possible but naturally discouraged.
If bitcoin gains wider adoption then there surely will be projects how to inflate it. There will be fractional reserve, loans and therefore "false bitcoins" in the form of "promises of real bitcoins". There will be far more promises than bitcoins used in backing. I have no problem with that as long as th following works:
If the BTCbank issuing false BTC goes bankrupt (unable to provide real BTC for the promises) then no one will be able to reimburse people by creating some new real BTC for them. Those people will have to decrease their standard of living (some of them might even lose their houses). And they will have to face the consequences of their mistargeted trust into BTCbank. So will all the merchants accepting false BTC from them. If this works and more reasonable "hoarders" are not forced to help them by a single bitcent then I am OK with all that. It might be that the BTCbank will never go bankrupt. Then the people and merchants will of course benefit from increased money supply. I am also OK with that as long as no one is forced (nor forbidden) to accept false bitcoins.

This fight between Keynesian/classical view on economics and Austrian school seems like neverending story. Such as fight between supporters of "giving people more freedom" and "doing right things for the people and perpetrate good even if it means forcing them".
402  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: easycoin.net problems on: April 28, 2013, 03:51:17 PM
Well that is bad Embarrassed.
Here might be the reason for so much advertising (it is payed): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=162636.0;all

Perhaps you should wait another day (or two) after the weekend. Then send private message to Largo at this forum (as he seems to be connected to easycoin.net). I do not think he would want negative publicity if the problems persist. 10 BTC is quite a lot money.
403  Economy / Economics / Re: = Grand Unified Solution to Lost Coins, Hoarding, Deflation, Speculation = on: April 28, 2013, 03:38:15 PM

If there is anything "revolutionary" about Bitcoin, from a political perspective, it is not that it will obliterate fiat currency or instantly do away with the Fed, or whatever various factions of Bitcoin supporters want it to do immediately.  However, by competing against fiat currency and having its own set of characteristics that make it desirable, it creates pressure against states to abuse their powers over fiat currency too much.  After all, there is now an alternative.

I also don't see the currency being outlawed successfully.  To the extent this is all computer code, it is protected speech under the human rights laws of most so-called "civilized" countries.  While I can see attempts to outlaw it, they will be as successful as the attempts to outlaw cryptography have been.  I.e. some states will try to do it and meet with little to no success, while challenges to the laws on constitutional grounds will win.

Just as actually banning cryptography would render a nation's businesses completely vulnerable to having their trade secrets stolen, once Bitcoin is seen as useful by businesses, and it eventually will be, attempts to outlaw it will not only face organized opposition from the people, but from the corporations who, by and large, own much of the government.  This is one area where we'll basically be on the same side, and even an oppressive government can't win against that kind of coalition.

+1
404  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [8500 GH/s] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + UserDiff; ASIC tested on: April 28, 2013, 03:34:08 PM
Just for the information, I also have problem with reseting my password (no email arrived). It is no big issue though and definitely not a priority. (There is nothing valuable in my account and I do not use this password anywhere else.)

Edit: My mistake. I entered wrong email.
405  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: easycoin.net problems on: April 28, 2013, 03:21:53 PM
Yes I can log in, and I moved out the remaining 0.099. I made another 2 accounts, one to which I moved 1 btc and succeeded in withdrawing it too. To 3rd I moved a bigger amount again (very silly of me, I know), and as in the first case, as soon as confirmations hit, a large transaction taking all my credit apart from 0.099b again to the same address. This still doesn't rule out the possibility of a bug, but the whole situation reeks. I sent messages to support from all accounts, no answers at all.
Still hopeful that I will get my coins back, but I guess the probability is not too high. Sad

I might missed the important point. By: "I recently registered and moved some of coins there, and after 3 confirmations the balance shows 0.099BTC." you mean that you moved more than 0.099 BTC in the first place?
406  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So let's say we solved the magical problem of centralized exchanges... on: April 28, 2013, 02:51:08 PM
localbitcoins.com

I will play devil's advocate and ask: How do you do high frequency trading and minute-to-minute speculation with localbitcoins.com?

(I know the obvious answer: "Don't (do HFT and speculation). Bitcoin is not a get-rich-quick-in-fiat scheme." But there are many people who do and will want just that.)
407  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: easycoin.net problems on: April 28, 2013, 02:40:25 PM
Hi everyone,

Does anyone have any experience with easycoin.net's services? I see it's being pushed heavily (advertising in people's signature) but no actual posts on the service itself.
I recently registered and moved some of coins there, and after 3 confirmations the balance shows 0.099BTC. I checked the transaction history and it shows an outgoing transaction which I did not make to a bitcoin address that now holds hundreds of coins.
As I see it, there are 2 options.
1) This is the result of a bug (with the mixing system perhaps)
2) easycoin.net is a scam

I sent several message to their support and have yet to receive any response. This was 2 days ago.

Can anyone confirm they are a legitimate service?

I can not confirm, because I am not using their services. But online wallets work by issuing users some address to deposit and then maintaining the bitcoins of all the users centrally on one or more addresses (like the hundreds-of-coins address). They keep their own records about users, how much they owe to each one.

So the question is: Can you log in to easycoin.net? Does your balance read 0.099 BTC? Can you send/withdraw this to another address?
If all three answers are yes then you are OK. If the first two are yes then you are probably ok.

But of course there is nothing preventing then from closing the service and steal everyones bitcoins. However, this is true for most of other online wallets too.
408  Economy / Speculation / Re: In the long run, bitcoin will be worth $0. on: April 28, 2013, 02:32:32 PM
Bitcoin will become obsolete once there is a cryptocurrency which does exhibit the following properties:

  • the possibility for split-second confirmed transactions
  • logarithmic growth of storage space and network bandwidth for transaction data (Bitcoin is linear to exponential)
  • a significant fraction of computation consists of useful work

I know the former two can be solved, only the latter one would require some new innovation.

If the new cryptocurrency will keep all the benefits and advantages of bitcoin then maybe yes. But I am afraid that some point are incompatible. (How would split-second confirmations guarantee safety against double-spending? How would logarithmic growth of storage space motivate miners to compete for it? Who will set and influence what is "useful work"?)
409  Other / Meta / Re: Rating System for forum users. on: April 26, 2013, 05:46:26 PM
I had different idea, mentioned it twice, but perhaps in the wrong place so there was no answer. This thread looks like the right one :-].
I do not know how "simple machines forum" works and what it allows, but...
Would it be possible to add personalized tags to other users? This do not work as reputation as you would be the only one seeing this tags. Current possibility to Ignore/Unignore user is too crude. What if ignored person posts something reasonable in the future?

For example: Someone has may Ignores and therefore coloured ignore. But I read his posts and conclude that he does not deserve it. So I will make a personal remark for this person "Ignored because he dare asks questions that only a few dare ask". Or I would like a tag "writes long texts but worth reading" or "has been scammed by MtGox, hates them" (so everything he/she writes about exchanges in the future, I can take it with the right perspective).
And I want to see this my remark beside every post he makes. Nobody else would see this even the person who is taged. (This way it will not turn into popularity contest.)

Simpler way to make this is to enhance possibilities for ignore. For example "show all posts from this person in gray color 8pt font" - So I know I can probably ignore it, but wont miss one sentence answers. Or "Allways show this thumb up/thumb down icon besides this person posts" - So I do not get confused by users with the same generic avatar. I know that Such thing could probably be made with some script hacking like GreaseMonkey, but official functionality would be better.
410  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Foundation Discussion on: April 26, 2013, 05:26:07 PM
Developers* have two conflicting problems or tasks.
  • Make bitcoin accessible to general public, accepted by common merchants (not just the geeky ones) and tolerated/reasonably regulated by authorities (by regulated I mean for example that written contract can be denominated in BTC, verified by and enforced by court).
  • Watch very carefully that core principles of bitcoin remain unchanged.

I do not remember times at this forum in 2011 or earlier, my experience with bitcoins is about half a year, but the ones who do, the ones who actually spoke with Satoshi (him/her/it)self, the one who have been with bitcoins from the beginning surely feel change in the community which make the second point more and more difficult. There are more and more scammers. There more and more "uneducated users" pouring in. I mean the classical pattern when new user comes in an after few days (maybe hours) discovers fundamental flaw in the bitcoin and how it can be made right. Even after informing the people, there is shifting of the idea about what bitcoin should do.
In the future if bitcoin gets general adoption by common people, we can expect opinions prevalent among general population. That means much more pressure about: Early adopters are unfairly rewarded. , There should be some inflation/demurrage. Hoarding and speculation should be discouraged/complicated/banned. There has to be some central authority(authorities), reversible transactions, mechanism for saving people from their mistakes and stupidity and mechanism for punishing the ones taking advantage and making profit of such mistakes. There will be enormous pressure to erode core principles of bitcoin (caped supply, decentralization, irreversible transactions). Also much more nonsense about mining damaging the environment/wasting energy, endangering national security and financial stability, etc. is to be expected.

I think that developers should be more biased towards observing second problem. Because this way bitcoin can prove that (or whether) it is superior to existing fiat and altcoins solutions. Well, not superior everywhere but somewhere. There are situations altcoins will address better, there are and will be situations where cash, gold and even fiat money or PayPal will do better than bitcoins. We should not try to occupy and dominate all niches with bitcoins, we should not try to adapt it to every situation and common taste. Let the bitcoin find its own audience and uses according to what it is.

Current problems to be solved in my opinion are: transaction fees and way to implement microtransactions/colored coins. Transparent way of biding for transaction space. Question about maximal block size. And of course protocol specification including some "almost impossible to change" behavior. For experiments and alternatives there are altcoins.


* - I know "we all are developers" situation. But by developers I mean core developers who actually understand the code, made changes and development in the past, and are able to push such changes (either because they are trusted and reasonable or because it has become a custom to follow them).
411  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [8500 GH/s] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + UserDiff; ASIC tested on: April 26, 2013, 11:13:10 AM
"News

    26.04.2013
    Because the user database has been compromised in recent hack, please change password to your pool account!"

https://mining.bitcoin.cz/

Nobody seems to have mentioned this - sorry if someone did and I missed it. Lots of distractions of late.    Smiley


As I understand it, this works through email. (You get link to reset your password.) This is in current situation better idea than classic "Enter old pass, Enter new pass, Retype new pass". This way even if someone knows your compromised pass, he cannot change it. :-]

And, Slush... have a good, refreshing and well-deserved sleep! Your handling of the situation is exemplary. :-]
412  Economy / Auctions / Re: ASICMINER Auction: 10 Block Erupter Blades -ended- on: April 23, 2013, 11:47:32 PM
The following auctions of blades will be after the collection of the feedback and (possibly) the modification and improvement of the design/manufacturing. But before that there will be auctions of USB sticks as soon as they are available. Shipping will also be immediate.

The users of the first round of auction are granted a free upgrade option to the blades of the improved design with the timescale the same as the free replacement warranty.

Looking forward to USB stick auction :-].
413  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [8500 GH/s] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + UserDiff; ASIC tested on: April 23, 2013, 11:44:01 PM
Very impressive response! I hope things will settle soon. OVH has probably some explaining to do.
414  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: **OFFICIAL? - My BTC-e Account Got Hacked and All Funds Stolen thread on: April 22, 2013, 09:41:13 AM
First MtGox delays, then bitcoin-24.com, then terracoin ASICwars (and terrawallet), slush DDoS, now BTC-e. Embarrassed

I do not know if I have been hacked, but I cannot get to my finances, balance, account setting. Written to BTCe support several minutes ago and waiting for reply.

So I recieved a reply: Try to clean Your browser cache
And it worked.
415  Other / Off-topic / Re: (BITCOIN24 DEAD) WHO IS DUMPING??? on: April 19, 2013, 09:08:48 PM
They can come from the spoils of a run away ponzi

They can come from the need to pay for publicity to keep pre-orders coming in.

They can come from govs and banks working to make the our beloved coin lose face.

Also can be caused by very bad software design + attacks on all exchanges and important bitcoin related gathering points.

EDIT: http://bitcoinity.org/markets/bitcoin24/USD

This (bottrading 6 days ago?) is more interesting: http://bitcoinity.org/markets/bitcoin24/EUR (7day graph)
416  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: **OFFICIAL? - My BTC-e Account Got Hacked and All Funds Stolen thread on: April 19, 2013, 09:05:31 PM
First MtGox delays, then bitcoin-24.com, then terracoin ASICwars (and terrawallet), slush DDoS, now BTC-e. Embarrassed

I do not know if I have been hacked, but I cannot get to my finances, balance, account setting. Written to BTCe support several minutes ago and waiting for reply.
417  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: transaction that won't confirm on: April 19, 2013, 08:49:41 PM
You do realize in order to perform a double spend you need at least 51% of the network power.
Actually, 51% of network hash rate grants you convergence of the following probability to 1 with time: "The probability that you can double spend well-formed* transaction no matter how many confirmations it has."

* - By well formed I loosely mean: transaction which nodes relay and miners are likely to include. Transaction with very low or no fees is an exception as it probably will not be relayed and included for very long time.
418  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Any way to speed up low priority transfers? on: April 19, 2013, 08:18:45 PM
If you use wallet which allows rescan of blockchain (like Multibit) then by rescanning it from the date of the no-fee transaction (or perhaps a day before that just to be sure) should make this transaction non-existent for your wallet and you will be able to try again.
If I understand it correctly, if you do nothing after rescan then the transaction would still have chance to get confirmed (in some far future). But the point is that you can actually try to send different one (with the fee) which will "win".
419  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: explain this transaction please on: April 19, 2013, 07:41:45 PM
47a2e93c9bfe576e0bda86752ab6416f4fd7b025a4d55cf64a841eb249be428d

About 25 for .01, the other $168.  I dont get it.

The address 1LxkLRyo7geb4umenGtJUJ2o4ArYJbWZZD received many small ( 0.00005 ) transactions in the past. It also received some larger amounts (such as 1.4023746 BTC). Now someone sends BTC from this address further to 17fTqG6q2HGhuP2jZPYSx46mU3c8bxWp2s and these many smalls inputs (previously outputs) and some bigger (one of them being 1.4023746 BTC) are combined to do this. Change is returned back to 1LxkLRyo7geb4umenGtJUJ2o4ArYJbWZZD.
420  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin's problem is the low rate of new coins on: April 19, 2013, 07:34:35 PM
Even if one bitcoin per day were produced it would be enough. We would simply be using amounts like BTC0.000024. It is not a dollar bill.
With the current transaction fees or with lower fees? :-]

Btw. : Lifecycle of the bitcoiner - This should be archived for future generations newbies. :-]
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