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1101  Economy / Speculation / Re: Right time to buy bitcoin on: January 04, 2018, 11:49:22 PM
Every moment is the right time. But of course the best time is when the price goes down, so you can sell it again at a high price.
It's good if you directly communicate with a senior who better understand about this. Do not panic buy, learn first about investing with bitcoin.
1102  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin digital gold or digital cash? on: January 04, 2018, 11:47:55 PM
This is a common secret, bitcoin has many functions as currency, assets, and commodities. but bitcoin less suitable to be used as micropayment, because problem of transaction fee and transaction speed which need to be reviewed. Thus, bitcoin doubles as digital gold and digital cash.
1103  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the best source of bitcoin nowadays? on: January 04, 2018, 11:46:22 PM
It all depends on each opinion. I chose the bounty program because this is the easiest and most effective way for those who have little capital like me. Although easy, but must be patient because the profit generated is not as big as trading or mining. Bounty also takes a considerable amount of time, that's the weakness. Well, all the ways must have weaknesses, so it should be considered well.
1104  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Which coin now is better choice for freshman to purchase? on: January 04, 2018, 11:45:06 PM
There are many potential altcoins, you can visit coinmarketcap. Currently, I advise you to start investing with Ripple / XRP.
In addition, you can also try ICO. Buy at pre-ICO prices, if lucky when launching in the market price can exceed ICO, can get profit doubled.
1105  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happens to your Bitcoin when you Die? on: January 04, 2018, 11:43:48 PM
I always share with my wife, password and all access to enter my profile already I give to my wife. So, if I die then my bitcoin and altcoin assets are still safe, then my wife will continue my struggle in cryptocurrency. I have taught and told all about this to my wife.
1106  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Is it legal to sell bitcoin for cash ? on: January 04, 2018, 05:38:25 AM
Well, I think every exchanger gives the option to withdraw into a fiat, and that's legal. It has nothing to do with the government as long as access to it is not blocked. Then from the wallet can be directly sent to a bank account. Then, which part is debated?
1107  Other / Off-topic / Re: If bitcoin goes to zero on: January 04, 2018, 05:31:46 AM
it kindly never happen, bitcoin will never been goes to zero, price is so big and get more fiat to exchange, if the price will hike the demands are going up. but the price still recovering and make our life profitable in the future.
yes, it is impossible to become worthless. The greatest opportunity is that altcoins are able to compete with bitcoin prices, and if that happens, there will be a "war" to determine the king of cryptocurrency.
1108  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to trade without losses on: January 04, 2018, 05:15:23 AM
it is not just for starters, losses happen to everyone. it is like the main part of trading. you have to lose sometimes because the market and the events that are affecting it are all unpredictable sometimes. but most of the times if you are familiar with the market you can predict it and lose less. that is how you make profit you win 10 times and lose 1-2 times so in total you are in profit.
yes, loss is a definite risk factor faced. The risk is inevitable 100%, but we can still try to reduce the loss of profit generated next. And for me, the loss is the best teacher to gain experience in trading.
1109  Economy / Speculation / Re: BITCOIN PRICE on: January 04, 2018, 04:53:35 AM
Dear friends.
Do you think Bitcoin price will go down under 10000$ in 2018 ?
Should I buy Bitcoin now or waiting more...
Need your opinions


That might happen, but I think its price will be steadily flow at $13000. It seems that there is its rest zone and will go up eventually.

I agree with you. Because when it touches the price, bitcoin prices tend to be more stable and do not experience a reducer that far exceeds the price.
For several years, bitcoin often declines in the first few weeks of the new year, it means now, and prices are slowly rising again.
1110  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: NO ETH AND NO BTC WHAT'S YOUR CHOICE? on: January 04, 2018, 04:43:12 AM
ETH AND BTC ARE DIGITAL COIN AMBASSADOR THEN WHY OTHER COINS ARE ALSO IN RUNNING? Huh

Is your capslock damaged? LOL

BTC and ETH are favorites so they are at the top of the coinmarketcap. Well, all this time I often choose altcoin which has a low rate but has a great opportunity to experience price increases, could be due to large volumes. It's often called a sleeping giant. I think it's more effective, let's just say Stellar, NXT, and Ripple.
1111  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Korean Lawyers Take Government to Court over Crypto Regulation on: January 04, 2018, 04:16:10 AM
I don't think that the judiciary is the best way to solve to solution as it will only arose the problem not solve it. My proof as also in the article basing from the news you will see that the law firm had faoled to prove that their government is unconstitutional as they are only practicing their government responsibility. To prove the point they are now on the stage of appealing to another court just to reversed the decision that has been made. I really thought  that the South Korean government are into supporting Bitcoin as a mode of payment but this news article says otherwise.
I agree with you. regardless of who is right or wrong, the South Korea government has a reason for it, one of which is the ease to track transactions and set taxes on them. For some, this can be detrimental and make bitcoin parallel to other financial products in South Korea.
1112  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 2017 is crazy for bitcoin on: December 22, 2017, 10:07:50 PM
A lot of people believe that bitcoins is just a bubble waiting for it's collapse, but the truth bitcoins is already backed up by a lot of investors, this makes bitcoins less like to fluctuate, but if it does it would be a slow down fall.
Bitcoin is not bubble and bitcoin proved this thing in last twenty days those who didn’t believe in bitcoin in past they are also impressed now and investor community will keep on growing and one day bitcoin circle will be jam packed and those who still believe that it is a bubble and they are not in vesting into they will regret in future and bitcoin will keep on giving to the people and the time will come when whole world will be involved.
yes many assume that bitcoin is bubble, and for those who believe it, the current price drop is burst. but despite the downturn, the price of bitcoin is still higher today many times compared to the beginning of the year.
decline and rise in bitcoin prices is reasonable. if it goes down, wait until the price bounces back. indeed the rise in bitcoin prices is currently very crazy. but the OP, although high bitcoin prices will not disrupt the stability of the bank.
1113  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: BI: Pengguna Bitcoin Hari Ini Happy, Besok Nangis on: December 22, 2017, 02:27:12 PM
Haha lucu ya pernyataan dari bank indonesia,pengguna bitcoin hari happy besok nangis,gimana cerita nya mau nangis kalau harga bitcoin di atas 200 juta lebih dari gaji PNS yang ada pengguna bitcoin akan tertawa terbahak-bahak
bisa saja menangis kalau harga yang 200 juta itu turun menjadi di bawah 100 juta, dan agan mengeluarkan modal di 150 juta, sedangkan ekspektasi sudah terlanjur tinggi untuk bisa mendapatkan profit besar. Keuntungan di cryptocurrency memang besar, tapi resikonya juga tak kalah besar, karena tidak ada yang tahu sampai kapan pasar crypto akan sebaik ini.
Ada baiknya kita menyikapi pernyataan pemerintah tersebut dengan lebih bijak. Harga bitcoin tidak selamanya bagus, jangan terbuai dengan harga sekarang, tetap harus berhati-hati dan pantau perkembangan beritanya.
1114  Economy / Economics / Re: Why people says gold is better? on: December 22, 2017, 02:08:04 PM
gold can not be used as a means of payment, because it is very difficult to make it in a small nominal, basically the main function of gold is as an investment. bitcoin and gold have their own advantages and disadvantages, both of which complement each other.
1115  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can bitcoin survive? on: December 22, 2017, 01:39:35 PM
After there is a BCC can the bitcoin survive or bitcoin will be much more up the price after this
What do you think about this?
I think bitcoin survive, and it will up the price now because of the demand and popularity. No matter what is the price is, people continuing support the bitcoin.
It is true. bitcoin has more value in terms of popularity, because bitcoin is a pioneer in cryptocurrency. no matter how much and how good the new altcoin is, bitcoin will remain king and will survive.
for now the BCH price is rising high and bitcoin is decreasing. some people panic and start switching to altcoin. well, this is normal, especially near the hardfork. Keep calm.
1116  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Bank dan transaksi mata uang digantikan Cryptocurrency,Akankah? on: December 21, 2017, 10:45:41 PM
setiap negara memiliki simbol negara dan memiliki mata uang sendiri. indonesia misalnya, walaupun indonesia memiliki mata uang yang nilainya lebih kecil dari negara malaysia, amerikan dan negara-negara lainnya maka menurut saya indonesia tidak menginginkan mata uangnya digantikan oleh mata uang lainnya
Saya setuju dengan pandangan sobat, setiap negara memiliki mata uang yang sah dan mengikat secara konstitusi. Di indonesia keberadaan mata uang rupiah selain untuk alat pembayaran yang sah juga merupakan sebagai simbol kedaulatan bangsa jadi tidak ada ruang untuk bertransaksi dengan mata uang lain.
selain masalah simbol kedaulatan, walau bagaimanapun uang cash masih sangat efektif digunakan di manapun dan kapanpun dan oleh negara manapun tanpa tergantung internet dan teknologi lain, selama masih dalam satu daerah yang mengesahkan mata uang tersebut. cryptocurrency hanya akan menjadi solusi pembayaran alternatif, misalnya untuk transaksi yang jaraknya jauh sehingga harus dilakukan secara online. lagi pula, bitcoin kurang cocok untuk micropayment, karena terkait fee dan waktu tunggu untuk dikonfirmasi.
1117  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Bitcon mengubah gaya hidup masyarakat dari segi finansial on: December 21, 2017, 10:36:37 PM
Sedikit cerita nih gan, sebagai seorang newbie saya semakin antusias untuk terus mempelajari bitcoin. Soalnya ada teman saya yang tadinya biasa saja dari segi finansialnya, sekarang alhamdulillah dia sudah mulai banyak perubahannya sedikit-sedikit bisa beli apa yang dia mau dari penghasilannya sekarang berkat bitcoin. Nah, dari sini hati saya tergerak untuk ikut serta belajar apa saja tentang bitcoin.

Kita akui memang hasil bekerja secara online dengan Bitcoin penghasilannya lumayan besar jika dibanding dengan bekerja secara offline, Namun demikian kita juga tidak boleh lupa dengan apa yang kita dapatkan dari Bitcoin. Sebaiknya hasil dari Bitcoin itu dimanfaatkan untuk hal-hal yang positif seperti membangun usaha baru untuk dapat menunjang pendapatan, tidak baik rasanya jika hasil dari Bitcoin kita gunakan untuk hal-hal bersifat glamor dalam kehidupan sehari-hari.
benar, tidak perlu show off atas pencapaian yang didapat dari bitcoin. biasakan untuk mendahulukan kebutuhan daripada keinginan.

Nah, bagi agan TS yang ingin belajar, silakan belajar dengan baik, jangan hanya tergiur dengan profit seperti yang didapat teman agan. nikmati prosesnya, mendapatkan profit seperti itu tidak mudah, butuh kesabaran dan usaha. harus bisa merasakan pahitnya. bukannya mematahkan semangat, hanya mengingatkan.
1118  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why people are holding Bitcoin? on: December 21, 2017, 10:28:38 PM
What makes people compel to hold the bitcoin in this critical situation? What are they waiting for? Any good reason?

usually people will hold bitcoin when prices go up or down, when prices go up they hold bitcoin because they want to get more profit and if the price goes down they also hold because they do not want to lose and wait price back up
they do it for sure. they believe it could be because of betting on luck, it could also be because they have analyzed the market interest. Moreover, interest in bitcoin is growing, investors are increasing. then most likely the price of bitcoin can be greater than this.
1119  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin as payment system on: December 21, 2017, 10:17:12 PM
The only way that bitcoin could be considered as a "real" payment system and almost accepted by almost all the merchants all over the world, is just if the fees are lowered.
Who is going to use bitcoin to pay more than forty dollar just for a single transaction? How are you going to buy a coca cola and a burger with a few of forty dollars?


yes, therefore bitcoin is not currently effective for micro payment due to large transaction fees. if the issue of transaction fee can be overcome, bitcoin can be a very effective alternative payment in the future.
1120  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why bitcoin so expensive? on: December 21, 2017, 10:03:09 PM
I think it is because of the many
users and investors in bitcoin.
Yes because bitcoin now is very popular so that many users and investors joining in bitcoin. Because in bitcoin you will earn  unlimited income so that many of us want to join in bitcoin.
bitcoin prices can be this expensive through a long process. to date, public trust in bitcoin is growing and investors are increasing. that is why the demand for bitcoin is getting bigger, while supply is limited, thus causing higher bitcoin price. in accordance with the law of supply and demand.
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