I have bought some tokens on Bittrex. Anyone knows to which wallet should I redeem them? Thanks.

the vast majority is against early publications but to protect the ideas as long as possible. i must say that ideas never heard before are going to be revealed. however this does not affect the preparation of the materials, and then we'll selectively publish what we see as fit at any point of time

Actually Crazyivan with the legendary status  ...moving from only using exchanges to figuring out wallets for the first time can be a bit confusing for some of us. I am new to all of this and am in the process of learning about wallets. I too have found this to be intimidating at times. What is extremely simple for the seasoned is brand new to others.

"our interaction should have only one form: i speak, i do not provide proofs or sources, and your (mine) role, is to prove that i'm *right*".

I'd rather you code. It's all about the product. Most people won't even understand the whitepaper anyway.

The whitepaper will only raise the price of the agoras. Product, product and product. We move forward!

You should post this on the Slack as well—I think there are more people there, including developers (for Factom and otherwise). Reddit appears to be down atm but you can find the sign-up link in the "Resources for People New to Factom" post. Good luck!

for a short answer, i first need a very good paper, as a first mean of getting more people. then i need to write the first alpha. then i'll have time (and much more value in hand) to approach the public in large scale. i have pending invitations from high executives in many companies like microsoft and google, which i put in hold until i can come with more in hand. when i'll do have that, i'll be able to achieve the marketing goals etc in larger success and smaller effort. right now the mental effort that i need to invest in my current tasks does not allow me to seriously do anything else. it's not hard to focus on telling people what they want to hear and grab millions for void, in this young and wild cryptocurrency world.  people all around do that all the time. but i'm from the other kind of people.
as for the website, we have a very fancy website that is just waiting for the texts to be rewritten. we have a great graphics guy. the bottleneck is me (i told Dana about him in detail only after he wrote the post that we need graphics designer)

allow me to agree. the cap is relatively ridiculus..

This goes a little bit over my head. How can normal people use this system to do something?

Anyways, finally I took some time to try to understand better this project and skimmed through this whole topic. So here are some random thoughts and questions.

1. Would you call Tauchain a DAO? It's decentralized (maybe not in the beginning, but it aims to be in the future), it's autonomous, but is it something that you can call "organization"?

If the answer is yes, you might be able use it to explain better what Tauchain is and what it does. It also helps to think more clearly how the governance system should be designed.

A DAO needs help from humans to make decision (not enough AI yet). How it will listen and use the human input? Somebody has to have power over the rules. In the beginning it's good to centralize decision making power to developers, because they know the best how the system works. But in the long run it's probably best to decentralize the decision making power to make sure that the DAO will stay resilient.

It's important to make difference between decentralization of existence and ruling power. Decentralization of existence is really important to make sure that the DAO will keep running even when many of the computers it exists on will be shut down for some reason. Decentralization of ruling power over the rules and decisions of the blockchain is different thing. In the beginning it's probably even a bad idea because it's dangerous to have too many ignorant rulers.

We can also have different roles in decentralization of existence. In traditional blockchains there are block producers and nodes. Apparently Tauchain will also have a blockchain, so there needs to be rules who will produce the next block and how they will get rewarded. If there is lot of data that everybody needs, there might be a need to incentivize some nodes, too.

2. How Tauchain will work from the user perspective? If I fire up a Tau client, what do I have? What can I do with it? For example, what if I want to create a new DAO for some purpose. How it will be done in practice? It will probably need a blockchain or some other secure way of saving data and making transactions? Do I have to code everything or can I just use some existing codebase and blockchain?

3. Is it possible to use Tau language in offline computer, just like any other programming language? Would it make sense to publish the language first, let people play with it and make sure it works, and then launch Tauchain?

good points, indeed i explain every day to several people, one of them is Dana Edwards who is also posting on steemit about some of the concepts that arise, and the rest is on bitcointalk and basically nowhere else for now. however note that the first alpha has nothing in common with bitcoin, except the promise to be a platform for a better coin but is just one use case, so i cant see how the bitcoin crowd vs general crowd should affect the explanations about the first alpha

to comment on the first point:


basically, the vision for later versions is that you'll have to write just clear and correct english, and you'll get suggestions, autocompletions, autocorrections, and markups of how the computer understands it, during typing. for many years such "typing tools" (call it so) are an essential tools for programmers (they put it under the name "autocomplete" but it's more than that).
three words is too restrictive to be comfortable, but it's not hard to take it from there into something more so.
indeed can compare NTriples to Turtle or Notation3, where the latters contain many useful syntactic sugar. quite technical syntax though. on tau, we'll be able to define many syntax (grammar) we like, and then using logic to define what it means to be true.

good point, and indeed how i saw it most of the time, but the more people putting knowledge into the network, the better for everyone. and it shouldn't be harder than posting in facebook using three-word sentences (subject-predicate-object), it'll be even significantly easier than three words only.
(example of such sentence breaking from the original tau whitepaper: "the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog", can be written as "F a fox. F is brown. F is quick. J a jump. F jumps J. J over D. D a dog. D is lazy. ....")

the more people putting knowledge into the network, the better for everyone. and it shouldn't be harder than posting in facebook using three-word sentences (subject-predicate-object), it'll be even significantly easier than three words only.

While I agree that this 'spreadable' explanation will be critical to Tau's success, I think the first stage is the technical explanation of the vision. (and resulting adoption inside the crypto community)

We are all here because of the technological advancements Ohad is working on - the creation of a better ecosystem.  The technical underpinning of this needs to be shared and vetted by those within the developer crypto scene.  To me, this 'developer adoption' phase is the key first step here.

I think a good analogy here is the growth/adoption of Ethereum.  Ethereum is now THE ecosystem for dapps - primarily because of developer adoption.  Ethereum understood that their initial target was developers experimenting and building within their ecosystem.

This could all be released at one time - packaged nicely for non-techies and crypto devs - but I think the real meat behind the bones are the technological advancements Ohad is working on.  IMO, this is the critical piece that everything hinges on - not the ELI5 explanation of Tau.

TLDR - The grand picture must be packaged for the masses but, to me, it's actually the crypto community that needs to understand the technical benefits / advancements within this new ecosystem.

i completely agree, and that's why the materials i'm preparing now are intended for any thinking reader, not only techies. ofc this makes the writing much harder. but not x100 harder, as the audience size grows