What about the centralized power of a convoluted idea? Think of our governance system, hundreds of years in the making, millions of rules applied, ratified, and discarded. The idea has become unmanageable and terribly outdated against current developments.

I'm arguing that the social benefits you would gain would be too good to refuse, and the system would be to massive to alter, ending up again in the situation we are in right now... did you choose what operating system to use, or was it simply the only viable option?

Offline, would be an option, but considering how much of our digital selves has invaded our reality, could we really do it? Could we survive without relying on a greater omnipotent system, which we have little control over? Think of the symbols on our cash.

It's not so much that it has been applied already but what else can be done with this?

A decentralized control scheme that you have to opt into to gain social benefits? are those benefits worth it? Who sets the rules? how complex can the rules get? I read a very good article that made me think about this, are we applying a omnipotent set of rules in digital stone to a complex system of networks, people and access nodes, the lines of power, of access, of privilege through out an entire society; The rules of who is right and who is wrong, of who is authorized to receive social approval.

At the more extreme levels it can be an adaptive set of rules, apply the blockchain based memory and it becomes a autonomous, self-adapting/evolving scheme to control a complex system: A self-aware system, made to monitor and manage inputs and outputs and to keep them within a specified range. A very powerful form of digital contract, that can either hold voluntary compliance or total digital denial.

  Currently we are in a very optimistic mindset, so, are we missing the obvious flip-side of this technology?
What is your opinion?

 Can we Subjugate and Oppress through the Blockchain the rest of Humanity?

 We cannot miss the fact that after all, it is a secure distributed database, a Database. A technology for registering information, for discerning truth from fiction in a generally useful way. We register our information, our file hashes, our websites, our identities, to a vast, hardened, unstoppable, massively parallel data warehouse.
  And we have unleashed it for all the world to see. The Blockchain is memory, perfectly recording the global mind. waiting for all sorts of analysis that can be done to memory, machine learning, understanding, to reveal to some of us, the true scope of human development.

 The Oppression of the Commons, by simple virtue of the collective awareness imparted by the technology.

 Information that is resistant to deletion; That cannot be modified, altered or stopped from propagating... it sounds familiar...

I figured I may as well say how to accomplish this.

  We have the technology, first off you need a few ingredients:Secure distributed public private database(Blockchain),Secure Communication system Bitmessage, Secure financial system(Open Transactions), Identity verification(Digital Signatures), smart phones(lots of them),  Contracts database and products to create receipts for.

  The main component is to have a working Smart phone system, preferably compatible with Android and Firefox OS. Mozilla is pushing hard to put handsets in the hands of every human being on earth, with their $25 smart phones; they'll drive Android phone prices down further increasing the speed of adoption. Firefox OS' hardware is fully unlocked, creating amazing possibilities to emerge.
  This system will have the ability to create accounts for people, emphasizing real names and identifying information for each person to develop their online reputation. It will be able to create bar codes for products, services that will be uploaded to the Contracts Blockchain, allowing the Individual or Business to transfer ownership, through digital signatures, to customers; creating digital receipts in the process. Once both parties have signed and agreed to the contract or exchange, the bitmessage system will update both parties, creating private databases that can only be revealed by the corresponding digital signature; You can unlock your private ledger for auditing purposes to others, and only to those individuals you authorize to view specific information.
  It will have a database of contracts for people to agree upon like: Rental contracts, Receipts, Ricardian digital Contracts, Business agreements, property agreements, time shares, etc, if you can think it, it can be added. With a strong API other programs can call in, use the program as they become available; This will be necessary since it's only at the beginning stages and we can't predict what people will create, so an API assures relevant info can be linked to the program to access those programs. I'm thinking of linking digital contracts with accounting software, or any commercial software(Till, ATM, Credit Card programs, bank software, etc); This way if someone defaults on their contract it can immediately be adjusted or final account could be settled.
 The accounting system would be secured by Open Transactions. It would issue the receipts and update the proper blockchains for each account and coin used at the end of the day, just doing a final tally in Bitcoin/Litecoin etc; This would have the effect of slowing down the growth of their respective Blockchains. It would also increase the ceiling cap for the transactions per second limit... now it would be limitless. Monetas the Open Transactions app already has Bitmessage integrated making it easy to transfer messages, custom versions of Bitmessage could also be used to expand functionality.

It has to be done, why do I have to fill out my income tax form every year when they have a copy from my employer and am simply confirming what they already know? why does it even take 6 months, and what is this BS of having to file taxes anyway? I just think this whole system we have been using is total BS. I shouldn't even have to buy software to do my taxes, it should be done automatically, if I need welfare, I don't want to apply for it, I want the appropriate authorities to instantly be notified of my work situation and have my Income Insurance kick in immediately. The system we have now just seems like a cop out just to waste our time and money. My tax money can be better spent for sure. All this can be done with simple digital signatures that represent the company or manager confirming the change of information.

  The technology of the Blockchain is truly marvelous, at it's core it is a publicly auditable ledger, This fact gives it it's power.
As we move on forward many of us will become aware that what we all know cannot be disputed. Because of this, all other institutions, contracts, systems of acknowledgement have been rendered obsolete. When the people can see the workings of their institutions in real time, they are empowered, to stop wasting the courts time, the time of government officials, of any institution made to mitigate or dispute social contracts.

  I propose we go beyond simply time stamping contracts, but to create a blockchain composed of private contracts, receipts, agreements for all to see, our digital signatures will be our indisputable proof of our participation and agreement among each other.

  These new open systems that we are creating, they are the foundation of a new society, of our future; A world where what is fact is not hidden behind books, locked behind red tape, but distributed among the people for them to judge, connected to all related information. The technologists talk of a world where every device is connected to the internet, I say we connect all information together, the valuable information that our society fights over in courts, in homes, among free associating societies. WE can create our own law system by simple acknowledgement and freedom to access that information at any time.

  When the blockchain is up and running all the money that was spent in contract dispute resolution will go to the miners, nodes that defend the free agreements of the people, the value of that integrity will be the price of this new Blockchain.

  It is time, we have the technology to do away with all these little paper receipts we get from stores, paper held between private parties, and communication blocks throughout all society, this old system is down right archaic when we consider that this linking of information combined with digital contracts, and data mining software can create a better world than this broken behemoth we call our Justice system has ever been able to.

Lets do it for Peace, for Integrity, above all lets do it for ourselves, if we don't who will?




 

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It's definitely possible to increase the TPS infinitely with mini networks fletcheting bundled transactions through Bitcoin, we have the technology.  As far as I can tell the system was designed with the 1mb limit to spur innovation in cryptography, schemes, and programming, tight programming practices like those that were common back in the 80's; Did you know that the first Mechwarrior ran on 600kb of ram, now that is some efficient programming. I mean, I'm surprised that I can't run a full linux distro on my phone even though it exceeds what the minimum requirements were for linux back in 2005: 2.5ghz quad core cpu/2gb ram/16gb storage.

This artificial limit lead to what we have now, the development of coloured coins, master coin, escrow/scrypting systems, tighter more efficient cryptographic ciphers, and looking at the code, Satoshi wrote it so any changes to that limit would break the client off the network, I am very sure this was intentional. I love Bitcoin because of all the innovation that has come, I keep learning new things every day on this forum. it's the reason I keep coming back.

You could say that Bitcoin is the backbone of a secure financial system, when you cash out at the end of the day, you run it through the Blockchain as a lump transaction and walla you have just created your own private account that hides your daily spending habits. I'm surprised no one has created secure mini networks(off-chain) for people to use, just one layer on top of their Bitcoin wallet to keep their financial information private.

(off chain transactons) are another idea born from the 1mb limit. Adversity creates opportunity.

In fact I am surprised no one has thought of mixing Bitcoin with Bitmessage in one wallet, using the Bitmessage protocol to communicate and exchange unsecured anonymous transactions(digital cash/chaumian blinding), but knowing the history of ideas, I'm sure someone on the forum has thought of this before. This could be leveraged to create a public/private wallet system where you can remain anonymous by using Bitmessage 3rd party accounts as escrows.

Spectacular idea, I love it.

I'm going to get myself a 3D printer as soon as I can, and considering the composition of this forum; I can imagine that a small revolution could begin here before it goes mainstream. it is just financially smart to be able to print your own products, think of the environment!

I can imagine I'll be seeing a lot of forum members in the 3D printing forum now.
 

MMpool

I had  an idea to promote the site, It's a little like multi-level marketing, a little of a referral program, and social network.

Promote the site by creating a social network of sorts for the users of mmpool.org; we start by being able to sign in using facebook, g+ or whatever, the users 0auth keeps their security and signs them in to observe their mining statistics; apply settings so the website only observes friend listings, if one of their friends on facebook/g+/etc signs up and starts mining, they get a better rate of 1% pool fee(for both of them), benefits for association. This way we give an incentive to mine without risking uncontrolled spamming, they have to be your friend, acquaintance, family to gain the bonus, risk of adding unkown people prevents everyone referring everyone. The lowering of the fee once, prevents abuse or overly complicated schemes.

Plus I was thinking that allowing people to negotiate agreements between the pools members, on sharing pool fees, or negotiating barters or positions for hash power on different coins. Basically allowing the ability to create mini-pools within pools in a market exchange.

This way people can hedge their earnings on one coin for another, depending on market value, we can add more coins that aren't merge mined and create a prediction market because of people simply hedging their earning based on probability of hashing.

so for example. I exchange a percentage of my earning in one coin for another, depending on our luck finding that particular coin. of course this opens up some amazing prospects. I can give 50% of all my earning on every coin on the pool to someone else in exchange for 100% of their earning in a particular coin; I make the bet that I can earn more on that one coin then I can with betting on all the coins together.

Now we've created a dynamic predictive market on a coins over-all worth by simply allowing people to sell or buy their positions on their earnings.

monitor the global bets, allow everyone to see the results and they will find the correct market volatility score for each coin and since we can see the hash rate of each member as a graph, we can learn how to bet on each members consistency.

add the ability for members to directly purchase hashing power from other members in a pool type fashion and you won't have to come up with your own cash to promote the site. ie: I put a call on the site for 5/TH at 10 BTC per month and allow multiple members to fulfill my request, or vice versa; I have 1/TH to full-fill the request for a 20% share a month and now we have created a pooled hashing market place to gauge the worth of that hashing power; so even if there is a bad run on the pool people can still earn something without landing the pool owner in the negative. ( hourly rate applied with automated escrow for security, apply it with Open Transactions and we can account for every penny on the servers for proof of existance in the marketplace, this way members don't incur constant fees for transferring micro-payments every hour for their hashing; everything is done in OT in the market place for security, if they want to play that game, they have to apply it to OT)

What if Nick Szabo is an Advanced A.I bot? Quietly promoting the ideals of Bitcoin, wouldn't that be awesome? A decentralized automated accounting system being maintained by autonomous A.I workers... crazyness.

Damn, when you say it like that, it sounds like we can use it for tokens to represent anything, how many shares of land can I get with crypto

yeah keeping it to a certain port can work, or blocked off from the main internet, it's fine.
but your clients parameters can be very close to the parent coin, allowing it to receive updates even though the main coin won't accept the fork; This happened to Frankos when it started, it began getting updates from Litecoin.

careful though... you may get updates from the other altcoin networks and find out the coin you just started is already at block 200,000.

I know, I just want to take it to the extreme, it would be the same as today's classifieds, people being able to re-sell what they have to others, but for digital copyrighted files. It's just a small tweak in a copyright, and a big change in peoples thinking about intellectual material.

https://github.com/bitcoin   Github repository, not sure if it's the main one.

and yes, you can change everything within the code... no guarantee it'll work on the main network, you may just fork it if it doesn't like your changes.

They had something like this with MintChip, it's a centrally controlled prototype, up for grabs now.

  How does one own something? A share? A claim? A song? These things are difficult to posses unless they are available to ones physical person or mutually agreed upon. A claim can be disputed by force at any time without ones own ability to defend the claim.
  These things have always required a central authority to distribute... I think we can do better.

 We will decentralize, make the files, songs, distributively share-able; With normal torrents monetizing ones own personal claims to intellectual property is simply impossible, by sharing one losses control of it, This is life, spoken words can be copied as easily as one speaks. but people want to support artists creators, people that enliven our lives.
 
If each piece of intellectual property, independently asked for a fee to distribute and a percentage was given to the sharer, a automated distribution system could be created.

Bob has created a song, wants to share it to the world, but Bob still has to make a living. Bob applies a 25 cent sharing fee for his song, with a 5 cent reward for those who share his song. Alice purchases the song for 25 cents over the network, she likes it enough to recommend it to Corry, he purchases it off of Alice, she gets her 5 cents and Bob gets his 20 cents to fund his song making life style.

How would this work, basic human respect, many people would try to cheat and simply copy the song, but to be a certified owner of a share of the song you have to be on the Blockchain, a proof that you care about art, music, creation. the plus is that it can be implemented on a torrent program, where by simply proving your identity the song will be available to you for download forever.

 This could be done with thousands of file types, blue prints, designs, papers, movies, etc. We will become the distribution chain that creates a new sharing economy, separated from today's labor intensive economy. I don't believe in slave labor, with the technology we have it is unacceptable, we must begin the transition to an automated economy.

 In the end, from this I wish for you to understand this; Money must be distributed in the way the Blockchain is

Each one of us rewarded for sharing what we love, or finding what others love, a service to share for the good of all, the creators and the consumers, a chain of money distribution granulated by merit, a meritocracy of experiences.
 
We must vote with our new money for a new better marketplace economy, where everyone wins.


If anyone is wondering how we create an Unstoppable Juggernaut, this is how we do it: Create a music, movie, file service that allows each member to purchase what they want with BTC or any form of currency and allow people to accept these currencies as payment to distribute the files. It'll become a new way to earn Crypto a gateway into our new paradigm.  Do the same for any Digital media, blueprints, programs, etc, hell if we implement distributed property rights we can do the same for physical goods, websites, services. We will distinguish ourselves by our quality of service and efficiency, no modern industry will be our equal, we will transcend them.

We need to promote more in different languages, that is one of the biggest barriers, being able to communicate ourselves to other than English speakers. How many translations of Bitcoin wallets are there? We have all major western languages, but what about Swahili? Tagalog? Arabic? Hebrew?

These markets can be opened if we speak in their language, make it easy for people who speak any language to use the clients. Advertise essential software for third world markets, bundling the Bitcoin mobile client into it and providing easy means maybe through ripple in local countries to purchase it. It's all about accesibility, If I was in Nigeria, where the hell do I get Bitcoin? where do I spend it? It's just not accessible enough yet, requires too much work to get started; These people will need to be guided, passively through good presentation, layout of marketing materials. All it takes is one person translating it and building a portal with all these features.

What if they are plotting to use those coins for Evil?

But on a serious note maybe satoshi should abolish death... I read sending someone to mars could cost only 3 Billion dollars; It can be done.
17 billion to feed all the worlds poor for a year, no starvation for a moment in human history for once. 28 billion to build a super super LHC 50 mile radius, imagine what secrets we could discover with that! 30 billion to pay all the dept from developing countries, 100 billion buy Facebook.
I wonder what you could do with a Trillion dollars, mind blowing.