Perhaps. Awfully interesting coincidence timing-wise though.
I also made a mistake. It isn't BUSD - It's USDT (Binance Peg).
That campaign has been scheduled to run weeks ago. I've been in communication with that project team for weeks.  It just so happened that they have sent me $4,400 in USDT (BEP20) ($4,000 for the bounty pool and $400 for 4-week campaign management) [TXID] few hours after what happened with the Electrum wallet. Why would I take $5,000 and put it again on a bounty campaign wherein all that funds are just going to be distributed to all who participated in it  I tell you now, I'm no Santa. |
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I think that kind of observation is a bit radical!
Regardless of the system used, security begins with user behavior. If the person has a bad behavior, he is subject to problems, regardless of the system he has. It is true that one or another system can make it difficult to have problems, but they are not infallible.
Safety is always related to the behavior that the person has!
Yes. Which is why I vouch to change my behavior. Being so careless got me into these bad circumstances and it sucks. Not only that I now have a constant headache, and I could barely sleep thinking over and over again how I fucked up, I lost what little reputation I had in this forum. So, never again. I'd do whatever it takes to keep what little crypto I have left safe.
Just some thoughts. Even though this happened very early of freaking 2023, I still have high hopes everything will be ok since I see some members in this forum giving me encouragement (though I know most still doubt me for what happened) it does ease the pain a little. Anyways here some update, Yo!Mix: $320 management fee returned + $150 initial refund for the lost funds: https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/transactions/btc/bdae89f63a82d45cde5412b6c9dd63802a999cb389a3da51adb63d289842c579Coinomize: $150 initial refund for the lost funds: https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/transactions/btc/246520fe68abe0439c1ea10f8cb17c1f8ff4699fe78e2044102427a637af84e5 |
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Another reason I can think of bakit may mga takot parin sa crypto is because it's susceptible to hacks. I learned this the hard way just very recently and trust me when I tell you, it could make you rage quit on crypto. The amount of security measures you will need to impose to secure your crypto funds is a lot na pupwedeng maging reason for other people not bother trusting crypto entirely. Whereas if you stick with traditional investment platforms, stocks, bonds, there's already plenty of infrastructures in place to support it. Crytpo in its promise for decentralization, doesn't have that much. You could only rely on yourself to protect yourself which for an average joe, could be a lot of headache. |
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after the FTX collapse, Binance and CMC launched reserves as an additional parameter for liquidity exchanges. Maybe we could have a similar condition here, the escrow must have a certain amount of reserves as a guarantee.
Even with such measures, a lot of things could still go wrong that would jeopardize the escrow. For starters, what if they got into an accident, got robed, or worse, died? These may seem far fetched but it can happen. And if such condition is applied here, as yahoo already mentioned, probably only one or two users in this forum would qualify. If all funds from various bounty campaigns, signature campaigns are poured into them, they could easily be targeted not just online but in real-life as well. Quite scary when you think about it. I was also disappointed when I read this news yesterday, and this is o e of the early big hack/scam story for the new year 2023.
Yep, but still, nothing beats this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5432665.0 |
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Even when utilizing a single device, there are still various options available to ensure the security of your assets. One option is to set up a dual boot system, another is to use a Live OS from a USB drive or other external media, and as a final alternative, you can also consider installing free virtual PC software and use a secondary OS that way.
Thanks for the tips. I'll look into it. That's one scary malware. Thanks for the info. You said you wrote down the seed phrase in your personal notebook, correct? Did you also write the seed phrase for your hardware wallet in the same notebook? How securely is that notebook stored? Did you leave it out somewhere where someone could have seen it? You seem to be confident that the funds in your Ledger wallet are safe, how can you be so sure? You mentioned that you only have alts stored in the Ledger, it may be just a matter of time before the thief finds those accounts too.
Until you can answer the question of how this happened to your hot Electrum wallet, you should assume that all your seed phrases and all your funds are compromised.
That notebook is totally secure, no one else but myself knows where it is within our home. I'm 100% sure no one else has access to it. So those seed phrases are secure. As I've previously mentioned in this thread, the blame was on me for having a crappy system that I've been using for a long time without a care for its security. Use a Linux system, but you will have to install the applications yourself from the package manager, and only use portable apps if you verified the release or trust the vendor.
The chances of stock malware breaking into an X Windows desktop on Linux is nil, because they're all written for Windows. You would have to be specifically targeted like Dashjr was in order to be at risk.
But whatever you do, do not install WINE with Electrum, or at the very least, disable or uninstall WINE, as it enables running Windows programs on Linux including malware. Not that many hackers are aware of that, but still.
Thanks for the tips. I'll make sure to remember this. After what happened to OP, I spent the whole night checking my PC since I'm also using Electrum to download additional anti-virus and checked all unused applications, OP opened our eyes to the fact that we must have a conscious effort to safeguard our system.
Yes. At the very least, some are made aware (again) that this incident could possibly happen to anyone. Man, I only wish I was not made an example though, too late. But one question: Why so much funds were held on your wallet? 5k USD are a lot of money, enough for several weeks of payouts? Normally, allocations are much smaller, lasting for around 4 weeks, not more? Or am I just having a wrong impression? I'm not Bounty Manager of course.  All of those funds are only for 1-week worth of signature campaign. It just became a big amount as the number of participants on Yo!Mix was suppose to be 40 per week. 10 for Coinomize. First suggestion for OP is to think about installing Linux OS on his computer instead of using wInd0wS, and always use ledger wallet connected with Electrum in future.
Linux is much safer if used correctly and attack surface is much less, but even dual boot (win/linux) would be acceptable solution.
Yes. I've just installed a clean windows OS and currently looking a way to dual boot Linux on it. Than I would like to see a realistic plan posted by him, explaining how exactly he is going to pay money back to companies that paid him.
I don't know if that is going to be borrowing money from people he trusts, or selling his stuff, but this would be the only way towards fixing his reputation.
My plan is simple. As I've previously mentioned on this thread, I've got a motorbike, probably cost around $1,000 if I sell it which I will. That should cover the lost funds for Coinomize ($1,000). Although it might take a while for it to get sold so I'll start sending whatever amount I can gather for now. Also, a portion of my upcoming bounty management fees will be used to pay these debts that I now owe to Coinomize and Yo!Mix. For starters, I just launched another campaign yesterday for which I was paid $400 to manage it for 4-weeks ( here); I've already informed both project teams (Coinomize & Yo!Mix) that they'll be refunded with $150 each for now. I still need $100 for my family's expenses which isn't much but we will try and make do for the rest of the month. Any means of additional income I get, a portion of it will be sent to these project teams. Signature payouts, management fees, etc. The $320 BTC management fee from Yo!Mix that they've also sent upfront prior to the incident will also be returned to them today. I just need both parties to confirm the BTC addresses they've given (through private messages) here on this thread so the whole community would know that I'm sending out refunds to correct wallet addresses and not to just some random wallet address that I made up. Coinomize:
Great Thanks ;)
BTC Address: 17fd4FLbj7rQCCPhRo3yqdZQPtKggs7mqc
Yo!Mix:
hello, sorry we have only btc
bc1q5xzdzzdagmtny5n285q02hfczjcm6hpdwu6mr3
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The only apps that were running at the time were Adobe Photoshop, Telegram, Discord, and Google Chrome
Stop using Google Chrome and use Firefox instead. There is suspicion that Google Chrome likely is compromised these days. Stop using it, uninstall it from your device at the moment. Firefox and Tor browsers are better. If you don't use Google Chrome, you shouldn't use Brave browser too. Thanks for the tips. I have no other reason for using Google Chrome other than being used to it since I started working online way before I entered crypto-space. I guess it never crossed my mind how vulnerable I am using it. It is your good move until the dust settles.
I notice that you did not change your forum account password. Why not?
And if you use a captcha bypass code, please change it to a new code too.
Changing them all now and after you make sure your device is clean, changing them all one more time.
I got your invitation to work with you in some projects and I appreciated it a lot so it is very bad for me to see this accident. Good luck and get well soon julerz12.
Thanks, I just changed it right after I made a full scan of my current system. A bunch of wacky scripts were found by my current AV, forgot the names 'cause I just immediately let the AV settle it. I will now wipe my system and install a new one. I assume OP was/is using the same windows PC for browsing, downloading stuffs, holding funds, etc. which is not recommended at all. Too many malwares across the internet (smarter than your antivirus), you click a simple link and wont even know what problems are waiting for you ahead.
Unfortunately Yes. While I have another device, it's a Chromebook that's used by my wife. It doesn't necessarily support the Apps I required to run the bounty campaign management service. So I'm stuck with my one and only PC. |
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I'm not buying the story julerz12 is trying to sell. He has a lot of positive feedback, but having a large sum of money entrusted to you can be too tempting to some people--just like MasterP, just like those charity scammers, and probably more than a dozen additional examples that can probably be dug up from the bottom of the toilet whence these fuckers come from. I'm reading a lot of posts in support of julerz12, and everyone is entitled to believe what they want of course, but it seems even YoMix thinks he scammed them. I happen to agree with that.
Thanks, I appreciate your skepticism and I totally understand why. You don't know me, heck, many of the users of this forum don't. So, I wouldn't be surprised by people doubting me or my "story". As I have previously stated on the other thread, I accept all consequences and judgment everyone is going to throw at me for what happened, whether it be positive or negative. Tags, flags, and whatnot. For what it's worth, I've handled and distributed a similar amount of crypto before, some in BTC while mostly in stablecoins and various tokens. You can see the list here, [ link]. With that being said, I will continue to strive and work hard to prove that I have nothing but good intentions and work my ass off to pay those debts I now owe the project teams. It will take a while but I promise to make it consistent. Regarding the payout for campaign participants in this week, i think julerz12 should be responsible for it, even though the fund has been hacked/lost etc, Next, julerz12 can pause the campaign and finalize workaround and continuation with @YoMix & @[banned mixer].
Yo!Mix was immediately paused as soon as I found out that the wallet was drained. It did not even get a chance to run for at least 1 day. The problem is that their representative no longer responds to my messages. I think they're really pissed and rightfully so. I still constantly send them messages tho as I'm waiting for them to send their official BTC address so I can return the $320 in BTC that was paid upfront for my 4-week management fee. Coinomize will send the rewards themselves for which I am eternally grateful. I'm quite thankful that they still chose to constantly communicate despite what happened. |
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Red tag by icopress is fine everyone, he has all the right to make that judgment, kindly stop bickering about it. I am trying to wrap my head around how exactly did you manage to get hacked so quickly.
Certainly it was not from a vulnerability in the Electrum wallet. Did you use a weak password or even no password at all?
What else was running on your Windows PC?
[exactly the reason why I do not store any funds on Windows (and Mac) and will never ever do that.]
Yes. It is pretty quick, the funds from Yo!Mix came in on 2023-01-09 18:51 and the whole Electrum wallet got drained on Date: 2023-01-09 21:35My best guess is the hacker was somehow able to get my password to the wallet and transfer the funds. Probably from a keylogger which I haven't found yet (currently scanning my system). The only apps that were running at the time were Adobe Photoshop, Telegram, Discord, and Google Chrome. Electrum wasn't even online until around 23:00 (midnight) where I immediately opened it after got notified by Coinomize team that the funds were transferred.
Also, just for everyone's info. I am currently managing this bounty campaign wherein $4,000 USDT is (again) in my care, sitting on my Ledger wallet ( Address) I have already contacted several escrows including Hhampuz in hopes of being able to transfer these funds to them to act as a new official escrow. I have also already contacted Coinomize and Yo!Mix so I can partially pay out my debts to them caused by the stolen funds. It isn't much but I hope they'll appreciate it. It's the start of many, I promise. Note: I was not aware the project team had already transferred the funds, all the negotiations between me and this project team were done weeks ago before the events of today. |
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IMPORTANT!!
The 4,000 USDT Bounty pool for this campaign is currently in my care but I have already sent requests to a few reputable escrows in this forum for them to hold it as official escrow.
WEEKLY REPORTS FOR TWITTER, FACEBOOK, INSTAGRAM, TELEGRAM & DISCORD, AND GROWTH HACK CAMPAIGN MUST BE SUBMITTED THROUGH THE REPORT FORM.
[SEE THE 1ST POST ABOVE FOR THE REPORT FORM LINK]
WEEKLY DEADLINE FOR REPORT SUBMISSION: MONDAY [UTC]
WEEKLY REPORTS POSTED ON THIS BOUNTY THREAD WILL NOT BE CHECKED/ACCEPTED/COUNTED AND WILL BE DELETED TO AVOID UNNECESSARY SPAM POSTS.
....PROOF OF AUTHENTICATION POST FORMAT....
Fill up the format below and post it on this bounty thread for verification purposes.
[ Mandatory to all bounty campaign participants ] Proof of Authentication Post
Bitcointalk Username:
Bitcointalk Profile Link:
Telegram Username:
Campaign Category Participated:
BSC Wallet Address:
....WEEKLY DATES....
WEEK 1 [ 1/10 - 1/16 ]..... WEEK 2 [ 1/17 - 1/23 ]
WEEK 3 [ 1/24 - 1/30 ]..... WEEK 4 [ 1/31 - 2/6 ]
....SOCIAL MEDIA PROFILE PICTURE....SEE AN EXAMPLE ON HOW TO WEAR IT ON YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA PROFILES: [ HERE ]
Download: https://imgur.com/xtTCnC3
....DISPLAY NAME....
Disclaimer: I am only the Bounty Campaign Manager for this project. I am paid only to manage this bounty campaign. I will not be held responsible should the developers/project team fail to reach their stated goals/obligations to the bounty participants, investors, and everyone else.
Join (on this bounty campaign) or Invest (on their ICO/IDO/IEO) at your own risk. |
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Undeads Bounty Campaign has officially ended. The spreadsheet will now be finalized and bounty rewards will be distributed within 1 to 2 weeks after this campaign has ended. Undeads Social media Profile Picture/Display name can be removed/change IF you submitted a valid screenshot/proof upon registration. [EDIT] 2/21/23USDT Rewards have been distributed: https://bscscan.com/tx/0x45c30842678bd6ebb42c69c98162e8d4771ec1d5187290e822fa2bd0c2d931a9
Disclaimer: I am only the Bounty Campaign Manager for this project. I am paid only to manage this bounty campaign. I will not be held responsible should the developers/project team fail to reach their stated goals/obligations to the bounty participants, investors, and everyone else.
Join (on this bounty campaign) or Invest (on their ICO/IDO/IEO) at your own risk. |
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1. If you can't guarantor marketing funds, you shouldn't be in this business. 2. It seems strange to me to create a new wallet (given that you have been working with other clients for more than one year). I would understand if you said that you do this all the time, but this is also strange because having a notebook with different private keys, and constantly switching from one wallet to another is a complete disrespect for your personal time). As a client, I wouldn't send you money if you didn't sign a Bitcoin message from any Bitcoin Address you've previously used to store campaign funds (or at least the one linked to your account here). I created a new wallet for these campaigns since the previous Electrum wallet I had was not segwit, it's a legacy wallet, eats more fees. Sorry for your expensive loss mate @julerz12, that's quite a big amount here in our country but I know you can work on it and cover your loss fund and pay back these two companies. I am using this version of Electrum 4.3.2 which I've downloaded from the official website. I've encountered this before but it wasn't version 4.3.2, upon opening the Electrum app on my laptop, there's a pop-up showing that I need to update the current version before I can proceed to make a transaction. So I went to the official website and downloaded the latest version then deleted the old one, so meaning I didn't click the message pop-up on the screen. (Everything went fine and that time)My question is, have you clicked it? I thought you were not using a hot wallet like Electrum since you've been here quite a long time managing signature and bounty campaigns. But whatever mistakes it is, just face it and never do another stupid thing as you think to end this world, that doesn't solve the problem. I read the suggestion of @Hhampuz which is ideal to follow. (Laban lang Kabayan, kaya mo yan.)Thank you I clicked it but I did not download anything. It redirected me to Electrum's website but I did not proceed on updating the wallet. I use Electrum mainly for convenience, it allows sending rewards in batches. Edit again, some screenshots:  I am really sorry for this accident you got and hope you will resolve it and come back. Is the screenshot a message you got after upgrading your Electrum? I searched and did not find any latest news or reports about Phishing attack on Electrum wallet. A past attack is in 2018 4 years ago. I am not so sure you got a same problem. Electrum vulnerability allows arbitrary messages, phishingElectrum Wallet Phishing Attack Nets Hackers $900K in Bitcoin Does this attack come back? I am using this version of Electrum 4.3.2 which I've downloaded from the official website.
When did you download that version? I did not get a message like yours with my wallet. The wallet was dowbloaded from Electrum's official website, around December 2022. I made that new wallet for the Coinomize campaign. I even verified their signatures at that time to be sure. There was no similar pop-up like the ones in previous phishing events. Only that little notification on bottom right of the wallet. I did clicked it though and it points me to Electrum's website but I did not download anything from there. |
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I'm curious about what actually happened and how the hacker could infiltrate your wallet!
That is what's been bothering me. The Electrum wallet wasn't even open. It was closed and I only opened it again when I got informed by Coinomize team that the funds were traansferred. My jaw dropped and I almost fainted when I saw that a new transaction was in the history tab and the balance is zero. From what I know, they needed my password to initiate a transaction, correct? They must have somehow logged that password when I opened the wallet to sign an address for the Yomix team to deposit the BTC funds 'cause prior to that $1,000 was just sitting on it from Coinomize for almost a week amd nothing happened to it. The 12 word phrase was also stored offline, on my personal notebook. Ot was never written on any document on my pc or online. Needless to say, I will wipe the shit of this OS tomorrow and install a new one with just minimal apps and zero hotwallets. |
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There's nothing I can provide that would prove my innocence. I would like to kill myself right now but I would prefer another alternative as I have two kids whom I would very much like to see grow up.
Don't say that! It's just a "little" money and not the end of the world! We will not open a scam accusation because of something like that. Sure it's not great, but it's not the end of the world as I said. The most important thing is that you straighten it out. Thank you. Agreed, no money in the world is worth of destroying your life. I understand that in some countries and for some people that 5K is a lot of money, it is, but it's not the end of the world. If you took the money for yourself (not saying you did) you must think about if it's worth it. Sure, 5K is a year of salary in the PH but taking other people's hard earn money is something that morality and for some even religious just wrong no matter the size. It won't give you any satisfaction, and it won't make your life easier.
I totally agree. I'm not* sure if this is worth it but I've held campaign funds equivalent to what was lost today (mostly stablecoins like USDT, USDC) and I have never even think of taking just 1 cent out it. All the funds I escrowed were distributed to all the campaign participants. Saying that, the best steps to take is change every password on any platform you have, install a good virus installer (contact me I would love to provide you with a coupon code for free).
What I personally would do. Disconnect my pc from the internet. Copy any important files (NO PROGRAMS) to a hard drive. Complete reset your pc or even better reinstall windows from scratch.
Only use a Ledger for crypto or even better use Bitgo.
And do your best to make your clients whole, be honest with them how you can repay the damage. Don't make any promised you can't keep, be straight forward, that is the best way to go.
I want to end my message by saying it again: No money in the world is worth of destroying your life, keep your head up because I'm sure that there are a lot of people loving you and willing to help you.
Thanks for the tips. Yes, I plan on wiping my system and installing new OS, new programs. It's a pain in the @ss to go through all this but it is a necessary security measure. It just suck that I had to learn this the hard way. I got a motorcyle that I bought 2 years ago which took me also 2 years of pain staking saving just to buy it, I'm gonna sell it so at least I can repay some of the stolen funds. I will update this thread about it very soon. |
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Should an escrow be liable for any loss of such funds and get tagged till such a repayment is done?
Yes. Whether it's a third party escrow or the bounty manager himself, the liability falls to whoever holds the funds. With that being said, I totally agree and understand if much of the users in this forum would paint my account red. I was too full of myself thinking the funds are safe sitting on a hotwallet. I should have known better than to trade the security of the funds for the convenience of using a hotwallet. |
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Come to think of it, I have a question, julerz12.
Why did you make the campaign thread a self-moderated one?
I don't recall any other, apart from those of Royse777, who had good reasons, but you apparently didn't.
Easier to delete spam. Newbies follow every thread I post and most of the time just automatically post Proof of Authentication posts without even knowing the contents of the thread. |
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Yeah, that's not really trustworthy after the first signature campaign here and before our first payout....
I sincerely apologize. I'm lost for words. LE: wow, you have Ledger and still used a hot wallet. Impressive! How could you go this wrong?!?  Yes, It was my own stupidity that this happened. This isn't looking good at all, even on the forum. No matter how I (or anyone else) want to say you're one of the reputable managers here, facts and concrete evidence are going to be needed to prove your innocence to start with. This isn't a situation anyone will wish to be in. My advice to you is to lay the facts of what happened bare. What you've in the OP isn't enough to convince anyone yet.
There's nothing I can provide that would prove my innocence. I would like to kill myself right now but I would prefer another alternative as I have two kids whom I would very much like to see grow up. You just scared me! If this is the case then I would say no online wallet is safe.
I would like to know if you hired any staff for campaign management, Or do you handle all the work by yourself single handly? Find out if someone else is using your computer.
Many times we use "Team Viewer" or "Any Desk" software for online meetings, and these are one of the reasons for getting hacked.
I work alone, no one else is allowed to touch my PC, not even my kids. I don't have those apps. I only have zoom and telegram/discord for communications with project teams. I'm not entirely sure how this happened but I'm pretty sure I've been hacked.
I don't want to rub salt into your wound, but you just made bitcointalk forum with all members look bad, and you damaged your reputation. People trusted you on both sides, and I don't see you made clear step by step explanation what really happened with coins you received and lost. Situation is even worse since you already own a hardware wallet, and you could easily connect it with Electrum wallet. I am not saying you stole the money, but acting this way is no better and I have seen people getting negative feedback for smaller mistakes. I know. Again, it was my mistake for not using my hardware wallet. I choose convenience rather than security. Be that as it may, but the responsibility for the loss of funds lies only with you. Sorry, but the situation is not in your favor, and if someone now wants to put a flag or a red tag on you, then it will be well deserved.
I fully understand and I accept the consequences wholeheartedly. So if julerz12 told YoMix the escrow funds are stored in a hardware wallet then why is he using the Electrum hot wallet? Was this from a on purpose?
I was expecting something better from this problem.
Yomix team was not told I'm holding the funds in electrum. They never asked, I guess they just trusted me upfront for which I am truly heartbroken that I have failed them. Like you said julerz12, $5000 is a lot in PH so could it be possible that someone in your circle may have had access to your computer while you weren't around and simply took the funds? I've seen people do a lot worse for a lot less and you never really know whether it's family or friends.
Not that I know of. No one is even allowed in my room where I keep my PC. Not even my kids can touch it. Sucky situation, however keep in mind that you can still offer a service here and participate in campaigns yourself in order to raise enough money so that you can pay back coinomize and YoMix - if you do care about it and if you feel devestated you know it'll be the right thing to do even if it may take a year+.
I plan on doing so. I know it will be a very long and hard road to overcome but I will most definitely try. @julerz12, this may be a very expensive lesson for you but perhaps one you had to learn regardless. Time to change your mindset and just get on the grind to earn anything and everything you can in order to pay these two services back what is owed but remember that you can make this better and there is a way to come back from this. Don't give up and don't just leave the forum, you're better than that.
Again, I'm not planning on leaving this forum. I earn my living here (which is a shitty way of telling, I have no real job). My whole family depends on me and I would most definitely not let them down. 2 - OP negotiates with creditors to work out some mid to long-term plan of repayment -> creditors withhold from giving him a neg trust until he's repaying -> he's still able to make income on the forum but obliges himself to use either multisig address or escrow service of a more trusted 3rd party until the debts are repaid. -> creditors get paid (slowly but still) and OP has a chance to keep his income stream and rebuild his reputation.
Thoughts?
I have already suggested this to both project teams and by the looks of it, they have no plans of granting me this request, and rightfully so. Sorry this happened to you, julerz.
Unfortunately, this incident negatively affect your reputation and harm your business as a campaign manager.
You acted as escrow so it doesn't matter whether you are telling the truth or not (I believe you are), it was your duty to keep the coins safe.
Right now, the best/right thing to do is to find a way to refund the missing amount from your own pocket then find out what happened and who got access to your wallet/device.
Thank you. I plan on working on a way to refund the stolen funds. It might take a while though as I have no other source of income other than bounty management. I think we have a topics here how to update electrum wallet properly, how old version electrum wallets are weak in security, a lots of example how people lost their funds due to Electrum. Sadly, julerz12 must have missed all those cases and did not learn from other people experience. It will be an expensive lesson for bounty manager. His only hope is to pay funds he owe to signature participants from his own pocket. That might save his reputation. Also, those who really support julerz12 as his favourite manager and those who care about julerz12, might help him with that, as they can send him donations.
Feel bad for projects whos signature campaigns were involved. That is a hard hit on their reputation also...
Good luck!
Yes. I am using an outdated version which if I remember correctly, I just downloaded on December 2022. Either I downloaded a corrupted one or again, my entire system got hacked. Sorry to read that. I have worked with @julerz12 on many bounty campaigns and he has always proven to be a solid and trustworthy manager. I want to believe it was just a stupid mistake that shouldn't have happened, and it will surely be a costly lesson, but I hope you can fix it.
Thanks. That's entirely it. A stupid mistake. I got careless and got negligent with the fund's security. It's just 5000$, it's not going to ruin your life. Things happen.
Thanks. It's not really the amount that I'm totally heartbroken with but the impact this event will have on my family and me. Please update us on your findings. Sorry to hear that but you need to work hard to restore your reputation, you will start by trying to pay this amount over a year as the average campaign costs are $400 per month or $4800 per year.
Pay that amount and convince @[banned mixer] / [banned mixer] to do so, and you will get a natural trust with a pledge to stop running any campaigns in the future.
Yes, I plan on doing so. Most importantly, has all the money been hacked? Do you know how it was hacked? Do you pledge extra money to other campaigns?
I am currently also holding funds to Moonbet.io (an altcoin campaign), those tokens are safe since they are on my ledger but all the BTC funds from my Electrum wallet for Coinomize and YoMix campaigns were all drained. |
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PLANS FOR REIMBURSEMENT | REIMBURSEMENT INFO | MOVEMENT OF HACKED FUNDS
I'm not entirely sure how this happened but I'm pretty sure I've been hacked. I am holding the funds for Coinomize and Yo!Mix Signature campaign, around $5,000 which is a lot of money here in the Philippines. https://blockstream.info/tx/b7d7c5c5516c605bf76107d4f8984b581632df845ad2fceaf4dcfe788943620ehttps://blockstream.info/tx/7905f4f56cb80162152f1a211acb76312372eaa382bac063b5e571ee52d8c9aaI am using this version of Electrum 4.3.2 which I've downloaded from the official website. I know this looks bad and would probably look as if I ran with the funds, but honest to God, I did not. I am devastated and ruined and quite frankly pretty angry at how stupid I am for not using my hardware wallet (Ledger) and just relying purely on Electrum. Either this old version is corrupted or they got into my system.
To those who hacked my wallet and owned this address: bc1qd5chfxnqa7gvrvl6cmqcvcvu3rjsl9gwa2juz8 you should know that you ruined my life. https://blockstream.info/tx/2793ed8971ca14ed86fb510db9996dd37e4de6793c643b534c5feada898e9a61I depend on this little hustle of bounty management to support the needs of my family.
Edit As the first part above was just the thoughts pouring in to my mind that I had to post it immediately. Here's some clarifications. Again I am using Electrum 4.3.2. That wallet has been telling me to update itself but I neglected that info thinking the wallet is safe. The 12 word pass phrase was never written on any document online. I wrote it down directly into my personal notebook. The password to it is also unique for which I have never used anywhere else. The problem is my system had no anti-virus or whatsoever, it does have windows defender but now, I think that shitty app isn't doing anything. I got zero ping that someone is accesing my system. If I haven't been informed by Coinomize team that the funds were transferred, I wouldn't have notice it since the Electrum wallet was last openned four hours ago after the funds were transferred. Meaning, the wallet is offline. I know all of you will not believe me but I will do everything I can to repay the lost funds even if it takes a while. The Yo!Mix team and Coinomize team will probably post a scam accusation soon and rightfully so since I have no means to prove my innocence. I will accept whatever this community would think of me as I know this is all my fault for being so careless and stupid. I've been in this forum since 2017 and I'm truly heart broken that this happened.
Edit again, some screenshots and timestamps (UTC): January 03, 2023, 06:13:36 AM: Received funds to run Coinomize Signature Campaign ($1,000 in BTC) for 1 week [ TXID] January 03, 2023, 06:41:38 PM: Ran Coinomize Signature Campaign (Coinomize funds are untouched in Electrum for 6 days) January 09, 2023, 10:48:00 PM: Received funds to run Yo!Mix Signature Campaign ($4,000 in BTC) for 4 weeks but initial funds sent are only for 1 week [ TXID] January 09, 2023, 11:43:26 AM: Ran Yo!Mix Signature Campaign January 09, 2023, 01:35:00 PM: Electrum wallet drained [ TXID] January 09, 2023, 04:13:21 PM: Coinomize team informed me that the funds have been transferred January 09, 2023, 04:24:58 PM: Paused Yo!Mix Signature Campaign. Informed all currently accepted participants through private message. January 09, 2023, 04:51:41 PM: Posted this thread.    
Stolen funds have now been transferred to a bunch of addresses which I assume is either a mixer or the hacker's collection point. See here: https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/addresses/btc/bc1q0r3fwzyrspdl34nsrxm5354wx96zsnfrt9nvmtbc1q0r3fwzyrspdl34nsrxm5354wx96zsnfrt9nvmt (along with 50 other btc addresses) transferred BTC to 30 addresses (each address has $11,000 worth of BTC). bc1q0r3fwzyrspdl34nsrxm5354wx96zsnfrt9nvmt is now connected to a wallet with a total of 17,606 addresses (according to: https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/0008dcb537375e73/addresses) [EDIT] 1/22/23 I've been informed that the addresses the hacker sent the funds to were apparently from ChipMixer. With that being said, tracing the stolen funds is now utterly useless.
Plans for repaying lost fundsMy plan is simple. As I've previously mentioned on this thread, I've got a motorbike, probably cost around $1,000 if I sell it which I will. That should cover the lost funds for Coinomize ($1,000). Although it might take a while for it to get sold so I'll start sending whatever amount I can gather for now. Also, a portion of my upcoming bounty management fees will be used to pay these debts that I now owe to Coinomize and Yo!Mix. For starters, I just launched another campaign yesterday for which I was paid $400 to manage it for 4-weeks ( here); I've already informed both project teams (Coinomize & Yo!Mix) that they'll be refunded with $150 each for now. I still need $100 for my family's expenses which isn't much but we will try and make do for the rest of the month. Any means of additional income I get, a portion of it will be sent to these project teams. Signature payouts, management fees, etc. The $320 BTC management fee from Yo!Mix that they've also sent upfront prior to the incident will also be returned to them today. I just need both parties to confirm the BTC addresses they've given (through private messages) here on this thread so the whole community would know that I'm sending out refunds to correct wallet addresses and not to just some random wallet address that I made up. Coinomize:
Great Thanks ;)
BTC Address: 17fd4FLbj7rQCCPhRo3yqdZQPtKggs7mqc
Yo!Mix:
hello, sorry we have only btc
bc1q5xzdzzdagmtny5n285q02hfczjcm6hpdwu6mr3
Coinomize:
Great Thanks ;)
BTC Address: 17fd4FLbj7rQCCPhRo3yqdZQPtKggs7mqc
Yo!Mix:
hello, sorry we have only btc
bc1q5xzdzzdagmtny5n285q02hfczjcm6hpdwu6mr3
Confirmed.
Transaction details and amounts* Yo!Mix total amount to be reimbursed: $4,320 in BTC ($4,000 in Signature campaign bounty pool + $320 upfront management fee)Remaining: $26531/10/2023: $320 management fee returned + $150 initial refund for the lost funds: https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/transactions/btc/bdae89f63a82d45cde5412b6c9dd63802a999cb389a3da51adb63d289842c5791/21/2023: $100 reimbursed to Yo!Mix team: https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/transactions/btc/6e9bb2b1d8d86fc4e1980c3aecace153dc5f87d847c5788800e44a16e11a1b192/12/2023: $100 reimbursed to Yo!Mix team: https://blockstream.info/tx/986031a7ef00168075ed0336296978c6d7f6e8ab276e9846b681b9c4144cd4343/14/2023: $100 reimbursed to Yo!Mix team: https://blockstream.info/tx/d7b29c41ffff0b2b2542b0904bf83b2dbc0a28ddae9295c7d1aad7364c2faa893/27/2023: $100 reimbursed to Yo!Mix team: https://blockstream.info/tx/7a42a6433e150bbdc81826abd27430c20fa30c9fda47fbc25aa99d64a9e1c88a4/03/2023: $100 reimbursed to Yo!Mix team: https://blockstream.info/tx/f85ba90422c0d32eb2c792a8412bbc8aacca22174fb73c6b7e311c348a2a95c54/11/2023: $100 reimbursed to Yo!Mix team: https://blockstream.info/tx/0e057c40c13d7b7f302026c730ac602e4914a9d7b760c5b5eb265efeb63edac14/29/2023: $200 reimbursed to Yo!Mix team: https://blockstream.info/tx/c600594c5ffb5f80e9d535c7a3b2db3149b275fdea18770e8269c1f7460650e85/18/2023: $147 reimbursed to Yo!Mix team: https://blockstream.info/tx/3387aac565baee92b32547663d1507efab8b2f2c70e593c89f229d3e000e04915/29/2023: $100 reimbursed to Yo!Mix team: https://blockstream.info/tx/c6fa428f93daeac6769d1f3bde44f315b9fc7c60896002a084e15693eeef84f86/19/2023: $150 reimbursed to Yo!Mix team: https://blockstream.info/tx/268d4ab15ba90700945fd2e803654faee1c18bed4d354dedc0541c432ad447ca* Coinomize total amount to be reimbursed: $,1000 in BTCRemaining: fully reimbursed1/10/2023: $150 initial refund for the lost funds: https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/transactions/btc/246520fe68abe0439c1ea10f8cb17c1f8ff4699fe78e2044102427a637af84e51/16/2023: $160 has been automatically reimbursed to Coinomize team. Payment was from my management fee from managing their Signature campaign, ($80/week) + ($80/week) for wearing their signature. 1/23/2023: $160 has been automatically reimbursed to Coinomize team. Payment was from my management fee from managing their Signature campaign, ($80/week) + ($80/week) for wearing their signature. 1/30/2023: $160 has been automatically reimbursed to Coinomize team. Payment was from my management fee from managing their Signature campaign, ($80/week) + ($80/week) for wearing their signature. 2/06/2023: $160 has been automatically reimbursed to Coinomize team. Payment was from my management fee from managing their Signature campaign, ($80/week) + ($80/week) for wearing their signature. 2/13/2023: $160 has been automatically reimbursed to Coinomize team. Payment was from my management fee from managing their Signature campaign, ($80/week) + ($80/week) for wearing their signature. 2/20/2023: $160 has been automatically reimbursed to Coinomize team. Payment was from my management fee from managing their Signature campaign, ($80/week) + ($80/week) for wearing their signature. 2/27/2023: $160 has been automatically reimbursed to Coinomize team. Payment was from my management fee from managing their Signature campaign, ($80/week) + ($80/week) for wearing their signature. Changelogs:
1/10/2023: Resized screenshots, Added plans for repaying lost funds, added Coinomize/Yo!Mix confirmations to their own BTC addresses, added timestamps
1/16/2023: Added info to Coinomize reimbursement
1/21/2023: Added info to Yo!mix reimbursement
1/23/2023: Added info to Coinomize reimbursement, Info about stolen fund's transfers and movement on the blockchain
1/27/2023: Added remaining amount of funds needed to be reimbursed.
1/30/2023: Added info to Coinomize reimbursement
2/02/2023: Added quicklinks
2/06/2023: Added info to Coinomize reimbursement
2/12/2023: Added info to Yo!mix reimbursement
2/13/2023: Added info to Coinomize reimbursement
2/20/2023: Added info to Coinomize reimbursement
2/27/2023: Added info to Coinomize reimbursement
3/14/2023: Added info to Yo!mix reimbursement
3/27/2023: Added info to Yo!mix reimbursement
4/03/2023: Added info to Yo!mix reimbursement
4/11/2023: Added info to Yo!mix reimbursement
4/29/2023: Added info to Yo!mix reimbursement | Added some colors to some texts.
5/18/2023: Added info to Yo!mix reimbursement | Updated images and re-uploaded to TalkImg
5/29/2023: Added info to Yo!mix reimbursement
6/19/2023: Added info to Yo!mix reimbursement
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NOTE: The USD value of the BTC rewards is calculated based on the current market price at the time it was sent to the official escrow address. The final BTC that will be sent as rewards will be based on this USD value. [ TXID ] -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is julerz12 of Bitcointalk.org signing this address bc1q5ck3twey8n76pqe5dvtxwvpmyc78ccwfct4rmh for Yo!Mix BTC escrow address on 01/09/2023
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