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921  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The head of WHO must resign!!! Sign for petition please on: March 27, 2020, 04:50:46 PM
every single person at WHO should resign, and the whole organization dissolved. The way they hyped up this (likely not so dangerous) virus was spectacularly irresponsible.


OP, you are also spectacularly irresponsible for linking to this nonsense. All you will achieve is popular legitimization of the WHO to both exist and to gain more power over people to which they are not accountable to, and who did not ask to be presided over by these self important control freaks (i.e. the WHO)

WHO and UN both down
922  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Toilet paper hoarding on: March 27, 2020, 02:22:13 PM

no one in the west wipes with the hands, there are bidets, or shower hoes/pipes. using your hand would be degrading.

In the west of what? Usually the West means the USA or Western Europe.

Actually, using the hand is what God wants. After all, He GAVE you your hands for free. If you don't use them, you are dishonoring God.

Cool

wiping your ass with the hands is something for arabs that life in the desert, in europe india, and china there are everywhere plants and vegetation and also water (all cities built on rivers) you can use as emergency toilet paper.

and people can keep their hand clean,

thank God i have not been born as an arab living in the desert, must be really disgusting to life as an arab beduin.

i bet this video wouldnt be disgusting for an arab https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd4YQ_D1SB0
923  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Governments using COVID-19 coroavirus pandemic to promote Socialism on: March 27, 2020, 01:57:35 PM
strange trump and many right wingers will consider those "socialist" ideast to be "nationalist" ideas.

its everyone's own choice to accept usd or gold coins. for their work, nevertheless in usa people are forced to work
924  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Corona Nationalism in western Europe on: March 27, 2020, 12:25:02 PM
If you equate nationalism to Nazism or anything inherently bad face value, you are an idiot that the mainstream propaganda machine brainwashed.

what could be done however in my opinnion is that the EU allows frictionless trade for corona pandemic equipment to put down prices and put pressure of the german med industry.
Why exactly would I gift or trade my equipment, that which I am also lacking for my own people, to some other people?

nationalism and nazism are effectively the same,
x
french and italian banksters frauding the supply of european industry to their own benefit at the expense of other regions is exactly the same what the nazis did, and even the same what the soviets did (ukrain famine)

secondly if french and italian nationalists are not national/socialists and racists,

why do they care about the social welfare of their corona threathened elderly more than about the one in eastern europe?

and why do they care at all if they are no socialists but only nationalist capitalists?

you can't answer this, because you know they are nazis, as soon as germans limit industry output to western europe they will also try to militarily act like the nazis.

first of all because they are nazis
and secondly because without the euro they are bankrupt.
925  Other / Politics & Society / Corona Nationalsocialism in western Europe on: March 27, 2020, 11:36:32 AM
during the corona crisis western european countries tend to massively indept an damage europe's debt, in order to profilate themselves among their aging population, so they can live a bit longer, and of course at the expense of eastern europe,

remarkably these "nazis" that only thing about themselves accuse the EU of being nazi as it is limiting their ability to print their worthless money, but the truth is the eu is not preventing them to print money as long as it is their own nationalist crap (italian lira french franc)

it will be a hard time for the EU to survive western european egoism and nazism in the comming decades, their elites are often idiots and think short termly.

what could be done however in my opinnion is that the EU allows frictionless trade for corona pandemic equipment to put down prices and put pressure of the german med industry.
926  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The head of WHO must resign!!! Sign for petition please on: March 27, 2020, 10:43:27 AM
This is very important to read and the world must know...

 On December Taiwan warned WHO (World Health Organization) about the virus threat, but the head (Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus) refused to hear and discarded the warning because Taiwan is not a country and it belongs to China. So from this part my question is, they are on politics now?  

 By end of January he realized COVID-19 is very infectious that can transmit human to human, at the time he didn't do anything and all was wrong by him. Then on February he started to study the case without fast progress, by the time all got worst in the world and he is trying to cover his mistake and blame others.

 He trusted China's report because he is a ball sucker, he is getting and giving all the support to each other.
 Most of the people are on rage with this peace of shit, now a Canadian (Osuka Yip) made a petition for his resignation.

 Below you have the link to sign for the petition and reach the goal, you must know that his fault for not hearing or getting support from others, the world got fucked up.

My share link
http://chng.it/DrWPJcPMzs

The source link in case you don't want to use my share link
https://www.change.org/p/united-nations-call-for-the-resignation-of-tedros-adhanom-ghebreyesus-who-director-general?utm_content=cl_sharecopy_20174937_en-CA%3Av1&recruiter=1064074780&recruited_by_id=9c0c7480-6f20-11ea-8091-554faa821db8&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_initial



WHO and UN are trash organisations anyway, third world countries have put to much of their destructive and racist influence over it.

main directive is : of UN and WHO is,

the developed world shall pay and work their ass of for the idiots in the developing world, because they are rich and noncolored.

UN belongs into trash bin of history. it was originally an american lead scam organisation, but now it got out of hands.
927  Other / Politics & Society / Re: restoring the ottoman/istanbul/byzantum empire the smart way (for turks) on: March 27, 2020, 10:40:05 AM
turks are sad about the fall of the ottoman empire, similar but restoring it with a nationalist/islamist way will not work, and turkey will lose its good relationships with europe if erdogan continues to use migrants as negotiation chips.

but there is still a much smarter way, turks can make their istanbul a world respected city, they have to do it the smart way, here my suggestion how:

1. make istanbul a neutral city abandoning turkish nationalism

2. make istanbul a religiously neutral city, stopping the 99% muslim dominance (istanbul had majority christian population during ottoman age.

3.make istanbul a neutral bicontinental city. meaning it has to controll its borders to both sides europe and the middle east.

4. istanbul has also to get a a neutral names, constantinople, and byzantum are also allowed official names of the city.

5. istanbul becomes a merchant and soft power respected in europe and in the middle east, it needs to have a strict corruption free burocracy as istanbul would have privileged relations with europe istanbul would be allowed to appoint visas for trusted merchants, companies and tourists to europe and maybe also into the middle east. (if the middle east ever decides to become a peaceful and prosperous region.

6. istanbul as a newly created city state would be vastly influential and powerful, it also would need a monarch controlling the financial system like during ottoman age.

there are more steps to this in reality but it also is comming automatically istanbul is distinguishing itself from anatolian turkish cities. trying to be more neutral and less middle eastern

regards

How would a city be neutral from the whole country?
This means that Istanbul would be a separate nation which means that Turks would never support this.
Istanbul is the most valuable city of the Turkish nation right now and they would never allow it being independent from the other country.

well then it will remain a turkish city and not a multinational multireligious and influential city, restoring ottoman empire however is not ending up with istanbul being turkish, istanbul has to become multinational again for that.
928  Other / Politics & Society / Re: restoring the ottoman/istanbul/byzantum empire the smart way (for turks) on: March 27, 2020, 06:50:36 AM

you have to distinguish between humanist version of god, and design related preferences of god,

in islam allah basically has a preference for humanism and a medieval society, as islam divine laws, related to its economic system. christianity and judaism don't have those.

thats why good things in christianity can be bad things in islam,

good and evil are orientation for children.

salvation is happening through god, god demands from the person to believe in him first, so he can prove himselves, but people want him to prove himselves before they can believe in him.

but gods point is that he can't prove himselves if people don't believe in him. and there are viable reasons for that.

a highly technisised urbanised and extremly antrophologic designed world like coruscant of star wars, also can have an understanding and relationship with a monotheistic god (called the force)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ajkFR-Hwjc

although it is a complete disgrace from islamic perspective and good/evil understanding.

No! Rather, you have to distinguish between God and idols. You do this by looking at where the power is. The power is with the God of the Bible:
1. The Bible is the same message as always (Dead Sea Scrolls);
2. The meticulous way the nation of Israel kept and keeps their records, showing that the Bible is true;
3. The power that Moses and the prophets showed, and that is evident from prophesy being fulfilled.

You better get deeper into the study of what is really going on. Your superficial understanding is keeping you from a lot of enlightenment.

Btw, except in cases of unexpected, instantaneous death, God proves himself to people all the time. But people don't have to accept proof as proof. The only thing in life that is required of people is... death.

Cool

wrong, power is purely a allowed by god. evil and good's power run at the basis of gods mercy

Power is purely allow by God, not by god. It's God's control, by mercy or otherwise, that allows good and evil... not god's control. The only time that god has any control is when god is Satan, one of his minions, or a man/woman. But then the control that god has is allowed by God.

If you ARE talking about God and not god, but only have a limited keyboard that doesn't type caps, there is a bit of thinking going into the way that God works, without being evil, and yet controlling it. It has to do with Jesus-God, His suffering, death and resurrection.

Cool

whatever we are here talking about the restoration of istanbul political power which is basically equivalent with ottoman power, weather it will be a republic for a while similar like switzerland or become a monarchy soon is a secondary issue.
but one thing will remain anatolian turks will be discrminated by the rulers in istanbul, as they always where during ottoman age.
929  Other / Politics & Society / Re: restoring the ottoman/istanbul/byzantum empire the smart way (for turks) on: March 26, 2020, 07:50:47 PM

you have to distinguish between humanist version of god, and design related preferences of god,

in islam allah basically has a preference for humanism and a medieval society, as islam divine laws, related to its economic system. christianity and judaism don't have those.

thats why good things in christianity can be bad things in islam,

good and evil are orientation for children.

salvation is happening through god, god demands from the person to believe in him first, so he can prove himselves, but people want him to prove himselves before they can believe in him.

but gods point is that he can't prove himselves if people don't believe in him. and there are viable reasons for that.

a highly technisised urbanised and extremly antrophologic designed world like coruscant of star wars, also can have an understanding and relationship with a monotheistic god (called the force)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ajkFR-Hwjc

although it is a complete disgrace from islamic perspective and good/evil understanding.

No! Rather, you have to distinguish between God and idols. You do this by looking at where the power is. The power is with the God of the Bible:
1. The Bible is the same message as always (Dead Sea Scrolls);
2. The meticulous way the nation of Israel kept and keeps their records, showing that the Bible is true;
3. The power that Moses and the prophets showed, and that is evident from prophesy being fulfilled.

You better get deeper into the study of what is really going on. Your superficial understanding is keeping you from a lot of enlightenment.

Btw, except in cases of unexpected, instantaneous death, God proves himself to people all the time. But people don't have to accept proof as proof. The only thing in life that is required of people is... death.

Cool

wrong, power is purely a allowed by god. evil and good's power run at the basis of gods mercy
930  Other / Politics & Society / Re: restoring the ottoman/istanbul/byzantum empire the smart way (for turks) on: March 26, 2020, 07:24:17 PM

nations (people that want to work towards a certain goal for example building kurdistan) and their defined capitalists are being formed by god, the jewish bankers then offer them their services

the jewish bankers aren't really the issue, the issue is that nations want other nations to do what they want, and also individuals want other's to do what they want, like the refugees at greek turkish border that want the greeks to fix their lives.

the transparacy of the jewish bankers is not the issue for those that know whats going on

Thanks for confirming that ISIS, al-Qaeda, and the Mexican Cartels, and the Italian Mafia, right along with evil Jew-banks, are being formed by God. So, show me how God forms evil without being evil. I understand it. Do you?

Since you don't see that the banking system is the second from the top big evil, let me show you some Revelation. Revelation 13:1:
The dragon stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name.

So that you understand:
1. The Dragon is Satan, the Devil, up from the Abyss;
2. The sea is the group of ungodly and unbelievers in Jesus and Jesus-salvation;
3. The beast is AI, being developed by people, for use by the Dragon.

When Jesus conquered Satan on the cross, and confirmed it in His resurrection, the following 40 days until the ascension is the time when Satan was thrown into the Abyss, and it was locked and sealed over him (see the Revelation).

The thousand years that Satan is in the Abyss are figurative terminology for a very long time. They don't equal a literal thousand years; you can see this by reading Peter's books about a thousand years. The Abyss equals death for Satan. But as Jesus often showed, death is only a deep sleep.

At the time of the forming of the new Israel (1948), Satan came up from the Abyss, as foretold by the Revelation. But he needed a body. AI is the brain of that body, while the unbelievers of the world (the sea in Revelation and elsewhere) are the body itself.

The banking system is the way that the body unites to take control, control which it hands over to Satan, the great Dragon.

Cool

good and evil are constructs, completely insignifican't, they are more like pawns in a chess play purely entertainment related

god is over them especially the islamic understanding of god is over them and doesn't has preferences, like christian god with humanism,

allah ist the game master, and the master designer of this world

But you are missing the big points:
1. They are constructs because Jesus overcame evil in His righteous life, and His innocent suffering and death on the cross. Because of this work that Jesus did - taking the punishment for all people for all time - God has no reason for punishing anyone any longer;
2. So, the purpose of maintaining good in this life is to maintain the world and universe longer, so that people have the opportunity to be saved... because this world and universe operate on the laws of love. "Not one jot or one tittle will fall from the law until all is fulfilled."

Allah might be God. But if he is the real God, the views of him are distorted for Islamites. God is One, both Islamic and Christian view. So, how can we have the Christian Holy Trinity? Simple.

Consider the treasurer of a corporation that has many members. When the treasurer writes a check on behalf of the corporation, it is like every member of the corporation is writing that check.

The unity of God is way beyond corporate unity. God is One, whether He exercises His God-ness in the form of the Father, the Son (Jesus), or the Holy Spirit.

Islam doesn't have the full view of God. If they are simply Islamites in a simple way - not into studying the Koran - they might possibly be saved, because they believe God... and nobody knows in reality what God is like. But if they read and believe that Jesus is simply a prophet, and not God, they are lost. They are lost because they are rejecting the One God they are attesting to. You can't reject Jesus who is God, without rejecting God.

Cool

you have to distinguish between humanist version of god, and design related preferences of god,

in islam allah basically has a preference for humanism and a medieval society, as islam divine laws, related to its economic system. christianity and judaism don't have those.

thats why good things in christianity can be bad things in islam,

good and evil are orientation for children. for grown ups you have to feel gods ordering force, he controlls the emotion and feelings of everyone, despite them thinking they have themselves under control.

salvation is happening through god, god demands from the person to believe in him first, so he can prove himselves, but people want him to prove himselves before they can believe in him.

but gods point is that he can't prove himselves if people don't believe in him. and there are viable reasons for that.

a highly technisised urbanised and extremly antrophologic designed world like coruscant of star wars, also can have an understanding and relationship with a monotheistic god (called the force)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ajkFR-Hwjc

although it is a complete disgrace from islamic perspective and it's good/evil understanding.

good/evil are bad cornerstones for understanding, whats going on, jews know that thats why they call the apple of recognition around good and evil, the reason why god threw adam and eve out of the paradise.
931  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Toilet paper hoarding on: March 26, 2020, 07:09:58 PM
Boy, I didn't realize that toilet paper is such a coveted item. Tried to order some this weekend with my grocery store delivery, no dice. Waited to get some today, store shelf empty. Called one store, nope. Called another store, got lucky. However, I only bought one package of 12. The clerk asked me if I wanted more. I hope that I didn't make a crucial error. Although, I am sure cloth rags and frequent showers will work. Or is running water going to be in short supply soon, too? How long, exactly, are people expecting to be holed up? We only have like 33 presumptive cases in the state that I am in at the moment, and I live in a rather large state.(area wise)

only one solution, ditch the toilet paper and start using your regular pail!  Wink

Still gotta wipe.     Cool

well muslim tradition is to wipe their ass with their left hand and eat with their right hand, thiefs in muslim world are therefore double punishes as they have to eat and wipe their ass with the same left hand then.

So, this whole thread is useless. After all, we wash our hands after wiping, whether or not we use TP. Or don't you wash after wiping without TP?

Cool

no one in the west wipes with the hands, there are bidets, or shower hoes/pipes. using your hand would be degrading.
932  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Toilet paper hoarding on: March 26, 2020, 06:58:00 PM
Boy, I didn't realize that toilet paper is such a coveted item. Tried to order some this weekend with my grocery store delivery, no dice. Waited to get some today, store shelf empty. Called one store, nope. Called another store, got lucky. However, I only bought one package of 12. The clerk asked me if I wanted more. I hope that I didn't make a crucial error. Although, I am sure cloth rags and frequent showers will work. Or is running water going to be in short supply soon, too? How long, exactly, are people expecting to be holed up? We only have like 33 presumptive cases in the state that I am in at the moment, and I live in a rather large state.(area wise)

only one solution, ditch the toilet paper and start using your regular pail!  Wink

Still gotta wipe.     Cool

well muslim tradition is to wipe their ass with their left hand and eat with their right hand, thiefs in muslim world are therefore double punishes as they have to eat and wipe their ass with the same left hand then.
933  Other / Politics & Society / Re: restoring the ottoman/istanbul/byzantum empire the smart way (for turks) on: March 26, 2020, 06:45:20 PM

nations (people that want to work towards a certain goal for example building kurdistan) and their defined capitalists are being formed by god, the jewish bankers then offer them their services

the jewish bankers aren't really the issue, the issue is that nations want other nations to do what they want, and also individuals want other's to do what they want, like the refugees at greek turkish border that want the greeks to fix their lives.

the transparacy of the jewish bankers is not the issue for those that know whats going on

Thanks for confirming that ISIS, al-Qaeda, and the Mexican Cartels, and the Italian Mafia, right along with evil Jew-banks, are being formed by God. So, show me how God forms evil without being evil. I understand it. Do you?

Since you don't see that the banking system is the second from the top big evil, let me show you some Revelation. Revelation 13:1:
The dragon stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name.

So that you understand:
1. The Dragon is Satan, the Devil, up from the Abyss;
2. The sea is the group of ungodly and unbelievers in Jesus and Jesus-salvation;
3. The beast is AI, being developed by people, for use by the Dragon.

When Jesus conquered Satan on the cross, and confirmed it in His resurrection, the following 40 days until the ascension is the time when Satan was thrown into the Abyss, and it was locked and sealed over him (see the Revelation).

The thousand years that Satan is in the Abyss are figurative terminology for a very long time. They don't equal a literal thousand years; you can see this by reading Peter's books about a thousand years. The Abyss equals death for Satan. But as Jesus often showed, death is only a deep sleep.

At the time of the forming of the new Israel (1948), Satan came up from the Abyss, as foretold by the Revelation. But he needed a body. AI is the brain of that body, while the unbelievers of the world (the sea in Revelation and elsewhere) are the body itself.

The banking system is the way that the body unites to take control, control which it hands over to Satan, the great Dragon.

Cool

good and evil are constructs, completely insignifican't, they are more like pawns in a chess play purely entertainment related

god is over them especially the islamic understanding of god is over them and doesn't has preferences, like christian god with humanism,

allah ist the game master, and the master designer of this world,

jesus is a prophet telling you how to live with a environment that is around people working with each other his story about him and the roman state explains basically how to live with it.
its neverthelss just a version of life,
god can create many more different frequencies and realities of life including polytheism etc.
934  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Venezuelan Leader Maduro Is Charged in the U.S. With Drug Trafficking on: March 26, 2020, 06:35:06 PM
according to us logic you can accuse the leader of a failed state that never had any financial air to breat to pay even just 1% of the police needed of anything that suits your agenda,

third world should beg for colonialism to escape their problems

Right. When this is over, we should petition for a referendum to join the Union, no need to remain like Puerto Rico as a modern variant of a colony...

you mean you want to join the usa?

mainland usa doesnt expand since decades, and they don't want to expand as long as they have open borders.
935  Other / Politics & Society / Re: restoring the ottoman/istanbul/byzantum empire the smart way (for turks) on: March 26, 2020, 06:24:47 PM
dang kingscorpio thinks the ottoman were christian. and wants more christians??!
seriously??!

i guess he been reading the propaganda machine.
he has forgot all the wars. yep the west was even fighting the ottomans in the first world war..
and guess what those descendands are still angry about the invasion even till today.

the middle east hate christians. and here is king scorpio wanting to go in again and push for more christianity.
(facepalm)

i can understand him wanting to make it switzerland2.0 for international trade reasons. but messing with religion an trying to rewrite the history of the ottoman empire is just  master face palm of silliness

again i can understand the logistical possibility of istanbul because of its positioning of mid point between middle east and europe and has the eurasian tunnel (just like london is positioned closest to europe and has the euro tunnel)

but thinking religion and history needs to rewrite to develop istanbul into a merchant centric city. doesnt need it.
and again as for trying to re-vitalise the ottoman empire.. king might need to take another glance over the history books

much better to get the west (UK/america) out of the middle east. and get asia/europe/middle east into a room and negociate between themselves.

its mainly the american involvement after all that is causing most pains in that area.

All that franky1 wants is Jewish banker rule. People are getting sick of being stolen from through the banking system. It's even the reason why we have Bitcoin and the altcoins... to slow or stop the Jewish banking thievery.

If Hitler had won in WW2, he would never have been able to hold it. Little Ireland has been fighting this war against England for ages. Hitler would have made some moves, and then he would have had to do the same thing that Genghis Kahn had to do, and Rome had to do, and any other major country had to do. He would have had to give in to the peoples of the nations, freedom, in many ways, and there would have been freedom after all.

Remember ancient Babylon from 2,700 years ago? Their empire ruled the world. But it had to give in to the Medes and Persians when it became too cocky. Same would have happened with Hitler if he had won.

Why do I talk about Hitler? Because if Hitler had won, he would have taken down the Jewish world bankers. He would have replaced them with a system of barter that wouldn't have stolen even 1% of what the Jewish banking system has stolen today. And it would have taken the Jewish bankers 500 years to come back with their sneaky, behind-the-scenes treachery that they always do.

Do you think the banking system isn't stealing? What else is Quantitative Easing? Look at all the money that is being printed out of thin air right now, literally reducing the value of all the money that the people hold.

What does this have to the bringing back the Ottoman Empire? One major thing. It has to do with bringing back all kinds of empires. And this is done by removing the money system, and replacing it with fair trade.

KingScorpio might be saying the Ottoman Empire, and the Istanbul/Byzantium basic location. And he is right that they were Christian for a long time in ancient history. But what he is really talking about is freedom from a slaving system that is stealing from us wherever we live.

All that franky1 is promoting is slavery to the bankers. But don't really blame him. He is like millions who don't really see how loads of people are being destroyed by the money system, while he sits in a position of freedom with his wealth.

But that's not even the big point. The big point is freedom. Freedom to speak is one of the most welcomed freedoms around. And franky1 is absolutely free to speak. But the question is, why is he always deriding other people when they speak? Maybe if he could start to capitalize the first word of sentences as is standard, he would understand that communications are for everybody, and that some other people can think as well as or better than he. But even if he doesn't, he is free.

Cool

jewish bankers stand for transparency thats how the system of trust works between western states in the future a public blockchain could replace them,

its for example very untrustworthy if western european countries print and spend a ton of money staying rich while eastern european ones don't do that and try to earn their wealth. while the western ones just take it.

slavery will always exist for 99% of the population in the end its the mind or god that can set one free.

what i propose is transforming istanbul into an open and influential world city, which it was during ottoman age, today its simply a big side city living in the shadow of ankara.

in my oppinion this has to be done smart, by making istanbul a neutral city state, capital cities are often also their own state (london, washington, berlin etc.)

but it wont make turks rulers in the region they never where the rulers in the region, the rulers where the ottoman dynasty and only the leading caliph the princes got executed.

regards

i dont mean ottoman empire return with a hostile islamist chaliphate, that is isis, i mean making istanbul an outstanding an influential city again. which is essentially the same, then it was during ottoman empire age.

during ottoman age anatolian turks/population where only labout cattle for the caliph and it will not be different with open liberal bicontinental city state istanbul,

what will change is that city state istanbul coult become a globally influential and high ranked city, whilen current situation is that istanbul is dominated by ankara.

turks that want to restore the ottoman empire want basically to put the anatolian turks under the rule of a multinational monarch in istanbul who has a lot of power and influence both in the middle east and in europe,
but erdogan acts like an orc, the smart way to achieve that is by making istanbul a huge city state like singapore, with outstanding relations to both sides of the bosporus,

turks will then also became the slaves of that cities financial administration again as it would weaken ankara, but hey thats what they want with the ottoman empire

free istanbul/byzantum (who cares how that city will be called) will then have a lot of administrative rights that ankara can't get, for example it could issue visa's into the EU for trusted people living in anatolia,
back in the ottoman age such a system also existed, it was run through precious metals and religious nobility. poor anatolian turks never where able to visit and travel europe, and it will not be different in the future.

but turks get back their dominance comming from istanbul again. and istanbul would be influential again also more influential in europe than ankara, which is losing influence and support in europe with its weaponisation of migrants.


Transparency doesn't always equal explanation.

I agree that the bankers are transparent in many things. But when nobody understands the things that they see through transparency, and when the bankers don't explain it to them, is there really transparency?

For example. When the bankers loan money, it is a loan only because they have made the word "loan" to have a special legal meaning so that it fits into the paperwork in places where the common word "loan" would be appropriate. But it isn't really a loan in the way we think of a loan. Rather, it is a creation of new money. This can be seen by what happens in the so-called borrowing process.

I'm not going to go into it here. But if you want to see that what I am saying is truth, Google "Modern Money Mechanics," an out-of-print publication that the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago published in the past. Also, Google "Two Faces of Debt," a current Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago publication, and read their original version of it. In addition, Google "Tom Schauf bank freedom." Tom was a bank CPA who realized what is going on - that legal lending institution debts are creations of new money rather than debts - and has explained it clearly in his books, some of which are literally published online.

The point is, simply being transparent isn't always transparency.

Cool

nations (people that want to work towards a certain goal for example building kurdistan) and their defined capitalists are being formed by god, the jewish bankers then offer them their services, it was this case violently with the germans, after ww2 they got the jewish rotshild banking services, and the german financial elite started running the country. same is being targeted with other nations.

the jewish bankers aren't really the issue, the issue is that nations want other nations to do what they want, and also individuals want other's to do what they want, like the refugees at greek turkish border that want the greeks to fix their lives.

the transparacy of the jewish bankers is not the issue for those that know whats going on.

paper money made out of nothing is also always debt, as it is burdening for other people that give hard earned goods and services for quickly printed paper money bills.

as a good muslim you should know that god is in controll god defines the value of currencies.
936  Other / Politics & Society / Re: how to fix children are an unprofitable liability in the developed world dilema on: March 26, 2020, 05:40:49 PM
during industrial age in the western world families lived in a room with 10 and more children that was around 120 years ago in the west.

As appealing as it sounds, I doubt that many "western" people these days would want that for themselves or for their kids. Still waiting for your plan on how you'd force them into dorms and make them breed.

with a social attitute in societies, society needs to build housing like it did building cars int he west, there is actually no other way, without population growth society will fall to the barbarians and savages, like you can see on greek turkish border.

then you get average life expectancy of 15 years like in somalia for everyone
937  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump’s decision to choose economy over people life’s will end badly for him? on: March 26, 2020, 05:37:14 PM
If you have seen my posts here then you’ll know that I’m an avid Trump supporter, and have been rooting for him to win a second term but now I feel that his decision to open US economy so soon will hurt his chances of winning the elections.

He's a businessman, not a politician.

He has done so many things that should hurt his chances ("grab em by the pussy!"), but the economy keeps going up and people take the bad with the good.

History shows us that opening up for business as usual too soon will re-introduce another epidemic.   And if country borders stay closed, local viruses would mutate which will cause multiple pandemics whenever the borders re-open.  Even years from now...

Our only chance is a good vaccine before the virus evolves to fight it.

and who will produce/distribute and get it?

only chance is simply life with those diseases, like they are a part of life, like africans life with relatives dying to poisonous snakes, hippos crocs and lions.
938  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Imagine COVID-19 As a scam possibility on: March 26, 2020, 05:33:29 PM
Option 2
All COVID-19 is a scam!

Let's just imagine for a moment that this famous COVID-19 was created and released on purpose. Hold on, don't get overreactive yet, think twice before you spread some doses of poison or hate here... Hold on! Hold on! practice patience, I just said just imagine for a moment. So this is just an option 2, like the guy in the video suggests.

Option 2 is this imaginary situation where if virus was man created to accomplish something like:

- Create panic, fear, disruption, chaos, bring the economy down.
- At some point, mainstream media will announce that the businesses are back open by easter or within 1-2 months.
-"Good news everybody, we found a vaccine..."
-BTW vaccine is mandatory...And if you don't take it you won't be able to use airplanes, trains, travel, no more credit for you, mortgage, social credit score, etc, etc.
-Mainstream media fearmongering you telling that if you don't take it you are putting other human's life at risk, blah blah.. otherwise you are a terrorist.

Option 1 is at another thread coming soon
For those that can't even allow or are not open to the possibility that this Covid19 might be a scam thing, then this is not a thread for you, then go and check the other thread with option 1 where the imaginary situation is all about that this Covid-19 wasn't man-made and instead was a biological/natural accident, and governments are still good people working for your health, etc. fine!
If your favorite way to stop a conversation is by telling someone that he/she is doing conspiracy, this thread is not for you.

Now that you are relaxed, welcome with your educated, respectful, proactive comments.

What to do:
You have to be inventive, proactive, create value and opportunities, made a plan b, work locally, encourage others to use cryptos, convert FIAT into Crypto, etc!


Inspired by: https://youtu.be/z2-ZyURg1ZE?t=624



like the moon landing the doubters will exists also from the beginning.
939  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Venezuelan Leader Maduro Is Charged in the U.S. With Drug Trafficking on: March 26, 2020, 05:17:05 PM
Official indictment press release:

Nicolás Maduro Moros and 14 Current and Former Venezuelan Officials Charged with Narco-Terrorism, Corruption, Drug Trafficking and Other Criminal Charges

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Maduro and Other High Ranking Venezuelan Officials Allegedly Partnered With the FARC to Use Cocaine as a Weapon to “Flood” the United States

Fomer President of Venezuela Nicolás Maduro Moros, Venezuela’s vice president for the economy, Venezuela’s Minister of Defense, and Venezuela’s Chief Supreme Court Justice are among those charged in New York City; Washington, DC; and Miami, along with current and former Venezuelan government officials as well as two Fuerzas Armadas Revolucionarias de Colombia (FARC) leaders, announced U.S. Attorney General William P. Barr, U.S. Attorney Geoffrey S. Berman of the Southern District of New York, U.S. Attorney Ariana Fajardo Orshan of the Southern District of Florida, Assistant Attorney General Brian A. Benczkowski of the Justice Department’s Criminal Division, Acting Administrator Uttam Dhillon of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) and Acting Executive Associate Director Alysa D. Erichs of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s Homeland Security Investigations (HSI).

So if we go back to the year 1989, Manuel Noriega in Panama was accused of similar charges. This of course was followed by the invasion of Panama and the capture and extraction of the accused, who was trialed and sentenced (for life) in the USA.

Is this the prelude to a similar formula to end Maduro's regime? During the middle of COVID-19 no less... Well at least the people are conveniently isolating themselves in their homes...

The New York times also wrote an article:

Federal prosecutors accused President Nicolás Maduro of participating in a “narco-terrorism conspiracy” in a major escalation of the Trump administration’s efforts to pressure him to leave office.

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WASHINGTON — President Nicolás Maduro of Venezuela was indicted in the United States on Thursday in a narco-terrorism and cocaine trafficking conspiracy in which prosecutors said he led a violent drug cartel even as he amassed power.

The indictment of a head of state was highly unusual and served as an escalation of the Trump administration’s campaign to pressure Mr. Maduro to leave office after his widely disputed re-election in 2018. Mr. Maduro has led Venezuela’s economy into shambles and prompted an exodus of millions of people into neighboring countries.
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The State Department is offering rewards of up to $15 million for information leading to the capture or conviction of Mr. Maduro, who remains in Venezuela, said Geoffrey S. Berman, the United States attorney in Manhattan.

So... Open season to hunt the current Venezuelan regime, open to all civilian contractors worldwide? Hmmm basically they just painted a giant target symbol to my country...

according to us logic you can accuse the leader of a failed state that never had any financial air to breat to pay even just 1% of the police needed of anything that suits your agenda,

third world should beg for colonialism to escape their problems
940  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Toilet paper hoarding on: March 26, 2020, 05:15:08 PM
Boy, I didn't realize that toilet paper is such a coveted item. Tried to order some this weekend with my grocery store delivery, no dice. Waited to get some today, store shelf empty. Called one store, nope. Called another store, got lucky. However, I only bought one package of 12. The clerk asked me if I wanted more. I hope that I didn't make a crucial error. Although, I am sure cloth rags and frequent showers will work. Or is running water going to be in short supply soon, too? How long, exactly, are people expecting to be holed up? We only have like 33 presumptive cases in the state that I am in at the moment, and I live in a rather large state.(area wise)

only one solution, ditch the toilet paper and start using your regular pail!  Wink

shower hose or bidet
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