Version 1.8.1. of Ledger Live is meant to fix the update from firmware 1.3.1... Fixes firmware update for Nano S 1.3.1.
and there is a 1.9.1 version coming that will apparently assist with these "Bootloader" issues: New Features
Accounts now have a dedicated section
Manager detects Bootloader mode and recovers it
Repair tool is now shown in the manager when connection issues occur
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Bug fixes
Fixes Ledger Nano S 1.3.1 firmware update support
And then you have some users claiming that downgrading to 1.7.0 is what enabled them to recover... You can get 1.7.0 here: https://github.com/LedgerHQ/ledger-live-desktop/releases/tag/v1.7.0At the end of the day, the device is recoverable... I've had it stuck in a "Bootloader/MCU needs to be updated" loop before and as long as you follow the instructions you'll be able to get it repaired. Ok I try it out, just to confirm its windows 10 safe mode not windows 7 safe mode and the repair mode in app is the only way to fix this and the repair doesn't ask for 24 word seed?
Just try Windows 7 safe mode if that's what you have... If you have Windows 10, Ledger Live will work fine without doing anything extra. I can't remember if repair wiped the device and needed the 24 word seed mnemonic to be re-entered. I just tried "repairing" mine now and it didn't ask after flashing the bootloader... but the device didn't actually need repairing, so I'm not sure if it actually did anything. My advice would be to make sure you have your 24 words handy just in case. When do you think they will release ledger live version 1.9.1 officially as that sounds promising with bootloader issues or is the beta demo version on github stable to use now? |
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If Ledger is fix that problem in version 1.8.1 then you shoud use it, no need to download lower version. You do not have to worry that you bricked your Nano S, I had similar experiences and everything ended in the best way. So try to use safe mode with networking, open Ledger Live and just follow this procedure : Device stuck on Bootloader, MCU firmware is not genuine or Follow device repair instructions
Make sure Ledger Live is updated by restarting it and waiting for the blue Update notification. If it appears, click on Update.
Open the device repair tool: Settings > Help > Repair your Ledger device.
Connect your Ledger Nano S and check the message it displays.
In Ledger Live, select the corresponding case and click Repair. The repair process will start.
If the loader is at 100% and the device stays stuck on Bootloader:
Windows/Linux: Restart Ledger Live by pressing CTRL + R. Then start the repair tool once more.
MacOS: Restart Ledger Live by pressing ⌘ + R. Then start the repair tool once more.
https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/360003117594-Troubleshoot-firmware-updateAlthough I had a case that my Ledger is stuck during update to 1.5.5 on W7, but I finish it just by using W10 (run Ledger Live + connect Nano S). Ok I try it out, just to confirm its windows 10 safe mode not windows 7 safe mode and the repair mode in app is the only way to fix this and the repair doesn't ask for 24 word seed? |
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Ok isn't the latest ledger live version 1.8.1 that recently been released fixes that not possible 1.3.1 to 1.5.5 issue so I don't need ledger live version 1.7.0? Yeah I kinda worried that I have bricked my nano s  I could do it on linux virtualbox machine but each time nano s disconnects from computer I have to manually enable usb device again in the virtualbox machine so the virtual machine can recognise it. Is there a way in virtualbox that keeps the usb device constantly on and recognised when the software update disconnect the usb devices to avoid prompts on screen and avoid manual enabling? Otherwise what do I do in windows 7 safe mode with networking? Do i open app first or connect nano s usb device 1st or which screen on ledger live app do I do what actions? |
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Ok on coinmarketcap how do i find out whether an altcoin is a erc-20 token? After you click on a crypto, at the bottom of the list of things like "Website", "Explorer" "Source Code" and so on, there is a tag as to whether that crypto is a coin or a token. However if it is a token, it doesn't tell you which chain the token is based on, so you don't know if it is ERC-20 or not. Probably the easiest way to find out for sure is to search the Etherscan database here: https://etherscan.io/tokensOk just to confirm everything on that that etherscan database site is erc-20? |
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Ok on coinmarketcap how do i find out whether an altcoin is a erc-20 token?
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Altcoins are falling behind bitcoin as bitcoin has come out of the bear market so when will altcoins follow?
Is there like a pattern to this? If there is a bitcoin bull run then obviously altcoins don't go up at the same time however when bitcoin has a pullback in price then do altcoins shine then or when bitcoin pullsback to a stabilised price for a how long certain period of time before altcoins shine usually?
Can someone compare the patterns from 2017-2018 to 2019 now when it comes to altcoins?
if you remember ethereum price bottom is about $80 and its happend in few months ago and now ethereum price is about $240 and thats mean from the bottom now eth price already grow about x3 right ? thats mean now the bull already coming to all great altcoins project my friend I mean unpopular altcoins. Ethereum is a well known popular altcoin?
What about bitcoin's halving event next year which is soon. Will this still keep altcoins in a longer bear market? What about bitcoin lightning network, what's the latest on that in regards to real world adoption? [moderator's note: consecutive posts merged] |
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Yeah i did try that on what HCP mentioned and I get ledger live app manager saying the following message
oops, your device should not be in Bootloader mode
Please restart your device or contact us.
But, in windows or the linux VM? HCP mentioned you might try to connect it via your windows host, which you replied with the mentioned message being shown. If this message comes when you access it with your VM, that's weird. Can you try the following (if you haven't already in this particular order) on your VM: - Start ledger live
- Connect the nano s with the button pressed
- Activate the USB connection to your VM
- Try to start the firmware upgrade
What happens then? Do you get the message which says ".. device should not be in bootloader mode.." ? Note that it might take a few minutes to update the firmware. Especially if their server are busy currently. How do i restart the device?
Usually just unplugging and re-plugging it. Yeah in Linux VM. I don't use host windows 7 because I was informed earlier in this thread that ledger live app is not compatible with windows 7 hence I had to jump all these hoops/configurations and time to get this linux virtual machine running with ledger live and tried upgrading nano s device on it only to find out I ended up with this problem which could have been the same problem had I used windows 7 instead to begin with. Yes I get that message your device should not be in Bootloader mode, clicked on retry but same message. When you say Note that it might take a few minutes to update the firmware. Especially if their server are busy currently. Does this stage comes after the above message or before and how do I know servers are busy? |
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Tried what exactly? Using the Repair feature?  And you didn't answer my question... If you disconnect the device and then reconnect it (without holding any buttons), is it going straight to Bootloader? No it doesnt say bootloader on ledger screen Instead it says when Without holding the left button I get the following on ledger screen MCU must be updated and while holding the left button I get that stuck bootloader message on ledger screen. So 2 different messages depending on left button is held or not. Havent used the repair feature yet. Just to confirm the repair feature will ask for 24 words seed?
The 8gb usb was formatted in windows fat32 i believe so will linux recognise it.
Actually linux recognizes all file systems. Just windows is capable of detecting windows-filesystems only. Forgot to say will a VPN on the host system affect the virtual guest system in anyway?
Yes, your whole traffic will be routed through the VPN (assuming you simply bridged your VM). But this shouldn't be a problem. Did you try what HCP mentioned? Getting the nano s into bootloader mode while uprgrading / attached to the VM (choosing the bootloader nano s as USB device) ? What happens? Also, how did you get the .appimage 'working' ? Was just something misconfigured or did you change something (which you eventually shouldn't have changed) ? Yeah i did try that on what HCP mentioned and I get ledger live app manager saying the following message oops, your device should not be in Bootloader mode Please restart your device or contact us. How do i restart the device? Yeah i got ledger live app working by updating it to version 1.8.1 from 1.8.0. [moderator's note: consecutive posts merged] |
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Apart from binace coin is there any other altcoins that kept its top100 rank in coinmarketcap since 2017 or reached new ATH's in 2019 and shall I assume that reaching new ATH's in 2019 will automatically keep their high rank within the top 100 anyway?
Im talking about established coins from 2017 not these newcomer coins going straight into the top 100.
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When you try to connect the device in BootLoader mode... the system will see it as a different device (Note the different "name"), so you will need to reattach it:  Can't help with Ledger Live not running... I've not had any issues with the .appImage, but I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 on VirtualBox. Maybe try starting it from a Terminal window instead of simply clicking on the .AppImage icon... that way you might get to see any error messages generated. Or you could try and use the browser in Linux Mint and just redownload the 1.8.1 .AppImage directly instead of trying to use the "update" feature: https://download-live.ledger.com/releases/latest/download/linuxAlso, have you tried connecting to Ledger Live in Windows now? Does it do anything? It might be possible to use the "Repair" feature (settings -> help -> "Repair your ledger device"). Make sure that VirtualBox is shutdown before you use Ledger Live in Windows to prevent any conflicts with accessing the device. Ok I tried that and the ledger manager is now saying this: oops, your device should not be in Bootloader mode Please restart your device or contact us How do I restart the device? |
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When you try to connect the device in BootLoader mode... the system will see it as a different device (Note the different "name"), so you will need to reattach it: Can't help with Ledger Live not running... I've not had any issues with the .appImage, but I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 on VirtualBox. Maybe try starting it from a Terminal window instead of simply clicking on the .AppImage icon... that way you might get to see any error messages generated. Or you could try and use the browser in Linux Mint and just redownload the 1.8.1 .AppImage directly instead of trying to use the "update" feature: https://download-live.ledger.com/releases/latest/download/linuxAlso, have you tried connecting to Ledger Live in Windows now? Does it do anything? It might be possible to use the "Repair" feature (settings -> help -> "Repair your ledger device"). Make sure that VirtualBox is shutdown before you use Ledger Live in Windows to prevent any conflicts with accessing the device. Ok I wasn't aware of that. After a month of this thread why wasn't this told and warned earlier? Is there anything else I should know about before continuing? Ok I will try it soon hope it works, wish me luck. Ok I managed to get the ledger live app working. Repair feature is my last is my last resort. |
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How many erc-20 tokens can I store under MEW or ethereum on the nano s?
Unlimited. Tokens are not coins, and no matter how many ERC-20 tokens you have, you only need one Ledger Nano app (ethereum). So, if you have 30 ERC-20 tokens and bitcoin, you only need 2 app installed on ledger: Bitcoin app and ethereum app. Ok how do I send different types of ERC-20 tokens under the ethereum app installed on my nano s? |
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Altcoins are falling behind bitcoin as bitcoin has come out of the bear market so when will altcoins follow?
Is there like a pattern to this? If there is a bitcoin bull run then obviously altcoins don't go up at the same time however when bitcoin has a pullback in price then do altcoins shine then or when bitcoin pullsback to a stabilised price for a how long certain period of time before altcoins shine usually?
Can someone compare the patterns from 2017-2018 to 2019 now when it comes to altcoins?
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When it comes to security is coinomi better than jaxx or exodus?
I use coinomi for years. I think it's a good wallet that you can use for free. It is closed source and it is a problem, but you can keep small amounts of money there. Ledger nano is a much better option on the other hand. Anyway, it is also closed source, but very realiable. Ok I can see from the link ledger nano s supports over a 1000 coins but I can have 5 installed on the device at a time?
What about the ledger live app/software? Can I use this as like a software wallet so I can have like for example 5 coins on the ledger nano hardware itself and 50 types of coins on the ledger live software app or is it strictly only 5 coins on hardware only?
Ok If i install the ethereum app on my ledger nano s hardware device then I can have many different types of ERC-20 tokens under this ethereum app?
You can install and uninstall very easily any coin at any time. It takes a few seconds only. Ledger live app is a good software and it will show all your balances and addresses of all coins you have, installed or not. To move the coins, the app of that coin must be installed on the device. So you don't need to install, just to move the coins And yes, you can use ethereum app or MEW to manage your erc20 tokens from the ledger. Ok instead of moving what about sending coins to its addresses on the ledger live app and if I want to withdraw coins from ledger I need the app installed on the nano s device right? How many erc-20 tokens can I store under MEW or ethereum on the nano s? |
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Is there any wallets that could hold different coins in different platforms? We know that there are many coins now being launched in the market and that includes the ERC20 tokens, bitcoin platform and other strong block chain technology. If there are wallets that hold coins in different platforms then that would do better. For now, only exchanges are operating that hold different wallets for exchange.
Indeed, that's one of the snags that encourages people to keep funds on exchanges -- the inconvenience of maintaining different altcoin wallets. All your Ethereum-based assets like ETH and ERC-20 tokens can all be held in a single Ethereum wallet like MEW or Mist. Other altcoins are more cumbersome and usually require their own wallets. There are some multi-coin wallets like Coinomi, Jaxx, and Exodus that support a wide variety of coins. These are closed-source wallets with questionable security, so I can't wholeheartedly recommend them, but they are still probably a better option than trusting exchanges to secure all your coins. When it comes to security is coinomi better than jaxx or exodus?
Ok is there anything better than coinomi?
Ledger Nano S you already have. If you need to manage your coin, you can use Ledger Live or Electrum. Ledger nano s supports 5 coins only?
No, what i meant are : 1. Ledger Nano S support many cryptocurrency, you can check it at : https://shop.ledger.com/pages/supported-crypto-assets2. You only can use 5 application (1 application may support more than 1 coins) at same time. So you can't plug your Ledger Nano S and manage 1000+ coins without repeating install and uninstall application cycle. Ok I can see from the link ledger nano s supports over a 1000 coins but I can have 5 installed on the device at a time? What about the ledger live app/software? Can I use this as like a software wallet so I can have like for example 5 coins on the ledger nano hardware itself and 50 types of coins on the ledger live software app or is it strictly only 5 coins on hardware only? Ok If i install the ethereum app on my ledger nano s hardware device then I can have many different types of ERC-20 tokens under this ethereum app? [moderator's note: consecutive posts merged] |
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Hi I setup virtualbox with linux mint however the problem is my 8gb usb stick is not recognised in the virtual guest linux mint.
Did you right click the little USB icon in the bottom right corner? It'll show you a list of USB devices attached to the Host which you can "pass through" to the Virtual Machine:  By default, they're not "connected" to the VM. You need to select the one(s) you want to be able to be available in the virtual machine and then the VM should "see" the device has been plugged in. EDIT: Note, I also had to follow the instructions for Linux here: https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/115005165269-Fix-connection-issues to get it to recognise the Ledger Nano S correctly in VirtualBox with Ubuntu 16.04 The "plugdev" group seemed OK, it was point #2 with the udev rules that seemed to fix it. I Yeah i did that in the picture by selecting the usb stick under devices usb but says failed to attach. The 8gb usb was formatted in windows fat32 i believe so will linux recognise it. Ok i will try out the ledger nano s from the link you given. However will the idea be that if i cant get a normal usb stick then shall i assume ledger nano s usb hardware wont work? Forgot to say will a VPN on the host system affect the virtual guest system in anyway?
Hi yes another question is once i upgraded the firmware on linux can I go back to windows 7 and use ledger live on there to manage the coins or is there known issues to managing coins on windows 7?
Please help the latest is i tried upgrading firmware in linux mint virtual guest. It downloaded firmware then it said disconnect usb and reconnect it while holding down the left button on device in which i did but its now stuck on the bootloader screen on device and nothing seems to be happening. Without holding the left button I get the message on device screen the device MCU must be updated and while holding the left button I get that stuck bootloader screen on device. I fear i may i have bricked the device after a nearly a month of precautions i was taking in this thread. Please help
Ok I tried updating the ledger live application to version 1.8.1 and closed it in linux mint and when I try to reopen it the application doesn't open and now I get a error message there was an error launching the application. [moderator's note: consecutive posts merged] |
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Hi I setup virtualbox with linux mint however the problem is my 8gb usb stick is not recognised in the virtual guest linux mint. I installed the virtualbox extension pack. It is the blue usb 3.0 port at the top of the desktop. This works in host windows operating system fine with no problems so why not in the guest linux? I checked usb 3.0 in the usb settings in virtualbox manager.
So if I can't get a usb stick to work then ledger nano s usb hardware won't work too in the guest right?
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Coming back to this thread is Coinomi still the recommended wallet? I also have hardware ledger nano s, how many coins can I have on it?
Coming back to this thread is Coinomi still the recommended wallet?
Depends on to whom you asked this question? Coinomi have good reputation which build for years, but : 1. it's closed source 2. they're trying to underplay the risks of vulnerability which send mnemonic seed (plain text, not encrypted) to google spell-checker service. I also have hardware ledger nano s, how many coins can I have on it?
Installed application? ± 5 application Total coins you can use/store? As many as total of cryptocurrency that Ledger Nano S support. Ok is there anything better than coinomi? Ledger nano s supports 5 coins only? [moderator's note: consecutive posts merged] |
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Please note that VirtualBox isn't likely to be as reliable as running a Live USB distro in terms of USB communication... the reason being that virtualbox still needs to communicate with USB devices via your Main OS, which can often cause issues.
With the correct add-on to virtual box (which is only allowed for non-commercial use), USB communication works without a problem for me. Did you experience problems already ? If so, generally with USB devices or specifically with the nano s / trezor ?
OP, it might be useful if you explain what you exactly want to achieve with your virtual machine / linux live distro. Do you only want to update the firmware of your nano s ? Or do you also want to use it for accessing your wallet / spending coins ? This topic is going on for almost 3 weeks now. You really don't need more than 30 minutes to accomplish everything. I think a virtual machine should work fine (never tested it with a hardware wallet; but USB is always working fine for me). It just needs some configuration. Booting a live linux does also work like a charm. There are tons of tutorials available on the internet. Some tools to create such a bootable USB with persistence have also been already mentioned by HCP and me. I, personally, would choose the linux live distro (just a personal opinion). The general workflow is: - Create bootable USB (see HCP's link to tutorial)
- Boot the USB (maybe you need to set boot-order in BIOS, or access boot menu with F8 when booting)
- Download ledger live for linux (the *.AppImage), follow ledger's tutorial.
- Run ledger live and connect your nano S
- Update firmware
- Profit.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask. But this really is no magic at all. [/list] Yeah my goal is to update the firmware of the ledger nano s and access the wallet too. Ok virtualbox is for the public and vmware is for companies? However in your opinion you believe the bootable live linux distro from usb is the best method because in virtual machine on host it requires extra usb configurations to get it to work as compared to the the live bootable linux usb distro where no further configurations are required so in summary it comes down to ease of use? If I take the virtual machine on host computer route then what are these extra configurations required to get usb to work? |
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