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361  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: 降价后的USB烤猫现在买有赚吗? on: September 21, 2013, 10:07:11 AM
直接買btc最有赚
但同一時間要承受極大風險。
362  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: 降价后的USB烤猫现在买有赚吗? on: September 21, 2013, 06:53:55 AM
數目一定要很多才可以找到. 若果你用USB烤貓只對BTC的話, 若以短期來說,當然沒有賺. 若以合作的方式, 有少許機會. 因為, 你投入的數目是固定的. 若果你買最少50, 是有機會的, 沒有甚麼東西較USB簡單的了.

刀片不方便, 若採用正確方法, 其實有機會的.

在目前預購極不明確,欺騙多的情況下, 投向烤貓是目前能保護你自己.  當然投向超微就更加好.
363  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: 100名受害者声讨比特币矿机骗子张沈鹏 要求退回购机全款! on: September 21, 2013, 06:42:44 AM
直到目前為止, ASICMINER是可信的一家, 超微更可信. 大數字的, 我有保留. 因為不是簡單的事. 把線路縮小不是容易的事, 最近,28NM版本有曙光, 真100GH/s, 因為已經有真實圖片, 估計在九月三十日或之前正式交貨. 儘管如此, 因為大數字不是簡單的事, 若你對礦機有懷疑的話, 請先問烤貓, 儘管是批發為主. 他們有實貨.


注:
我知道受害者只聽了一句就注資. 我知道在這個領域,平均每十句之中, 只有兩句可信. 第一是有可用商品; 第二是有良好代工關係的.

我剛剛開始的時候, 我用NVIDIA GT430運行了七日後,得到結果後,才決定引入超微, 團掘以減少問題. 直到今日, 我現在連烤貓也引入我的系統中. 我將會看, 該網絡究竟搞甚麼?

香港很奇怪, 最少有三個收買者, 但不是很多香港人查問, 我一問,已經獲悉若不是在2016年前做的話, 我是無法獲得我所需的.
364  Bitcoin / Group buys / [NOW OPEN]USBMiner array remote mining on: September 20, 2013, 06:37:19 AM
UNION is better than ALONE.

Hello, noirpool852 presents a group buy, which is using the most trustful ASICMiner for the initial start.

Bitcoin mining related is now playing with Novec(R) solution according to a 3M representative talk . Although Novec(R) is a strong thing,where are the chips? At this moment, Only ASICMiner has stock which can be trusted, if collected 6.1BTC, then, waiting at most a week, then the fun begins.


Amount before ready? At least 50, if in total of 6.1BTC, then I will contact rockxie for this. I have asked him, Currently the ebay selling price, unless it is a ready kit, otherwise it can be not so reasonable, additionally, each represents only 300Mh/s SHA-2. If adding more then it can do better.

Cost per one: 0.13BTC (Including management fee)

Duration of hosting: 6 Months

How to do with the collected? I will ask rockxie for that amount if you like to save money.

Hosted Location: Hong Kong

Miningpool is planned to use: Bitparkingpool for the most optimal operations. May include upgrade as many in ,


USB miner will be sent after 6 months? Yes, You have an option not to be sent.


Insterested party or personal may like to use the Bitcoin address,
17GeketfNSDNRFjhCGxp3Y6tif3LU1UujB

To buy shares, each share represents 300Mh/s (The theoretically is 336Mh/s)

Why USB eruptor instead of the blade? USB eruptor is without the need to place stratum proxy as my host can be set as proxy, if small, it is for souvenir, if added many, then it can do impressive as each USB controller (USB 2.0) may be able to handle 100 of these


365  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: LOL at this. on: September 20, 2013, 06:11:48 AM
Well, who can be trusted at this moment?
AMD and ASICMiner.
366  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Is anyone actually going to buy the 600 GH/s BFL unit after their customer serv? on: September 20, 2013, 06:10:30 AM
Never trust what this company says about the number as Time is the cost.

ASICMiner provides almost nothing due to bad power-to-hash ratio (2.5W roughly for 300Mh/s), true hashrate for people if ordered as there is stock available. Also the representative on the forum, says there are many units available if interested.
367  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: All 500 GH/s Miners And Above on: September 20, 2013, 06:07:38 AM
Shipments:

jalapeno:2013.2.12--14
little single:2012.11.6
single:2012.08.26
mini rig: 2012.08.15,2012.07.20,2012.06.24

this is the order August 2012







this 500GH/s miner can be shipped today

Although it is pretty impressive,but epic failed as the being may be mined before received.
The real solution is, using cooking oil, pump, radiator with glass tank at least, to power the damn up.
I am looking if there is a group of people can provide another option which is capable of 5,000Kh/s scrypt mining within 500W.

368  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: All 500 GH/s Miners And Above on: September 20, 2013, 06:04:19 AM
Hi, I was wondering what ALL the 500 GH/s and above miners are. Preferably some that can be shipped out today (not cointerra's unreleased stuff or stuff with BFL's "let's ship this 14 months after the order" policy). ASICs that can be shipped within 1 month of the order that mine above 500 GH/s.

Thanks in advance.

The 500Gh/s being. I seldom think they will be successful as There is no workable prototype for 28nm manufacturing for the time being. There are 10 more days to go to determine if it is a lie, this is the ORSoc case even ORSoc has good relationship between TSMC and/or other related companies.

P.S Only GPUs are released in 28nm.  In real, Bet on ASICMiner first as ASICMiner is completely ready, stock available in Canada and the forum talk although with bad power-to-hash ratio (Need to pay BTC before they work, I have asked one of the key persons, If ordering the minimal amount, 6.1BTC in total, which represents at least USD 610.)

 
369  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: MSI Z77A-GD65 Motherboard with 7 GPU?? on: September 20, 2013, 05:54:41 AM
You can connect up to seven if you dare.

However the connection may be in history as some people have modified the input method to speed up the harvesting while using GPUs for XOR operations.
370  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Under oil to keep it cool? on: September 20, 2013, 05:52:40 AM
I was playing with the idea of an oil tank for blades, but it is completely unnecessary.

I had the resources to create a prototype of it (actually 2), but things move so quick in the BTC world you would regret any additional expense to your mining operation.

Oil submerging is quite good though in terms of cooling, but have some downsides too:

1.) A tank filled with oil and HW is very heavy so not convenient to move if needed. (my prototype weights around 30kgs+ filled up, including pumps and all the other HW)

2.) Maintenance can be quite messy

3.) It's expensive.

4.) If a pump fails the HW can literally fry and get damaged due to no circulation.





Oil is not so expensive as you use cooking oil instead of Mineral one.
If using Intel(R), overheat can be down, can be up after temperature decreases.

P.S
There is a more efficient method which has been using for decades, Fluoride solution by 3M. Started from military Radars to a known supercomputer then trimmed called Novec 7100. I have contacted with 3M, a key person has asked me if I am ready, the desired wattage, I said Ready, Like to cooldown 1300W being for Multi-purpose (Including bitcoin). Although the Novec solution can be more expensive than Oil Cooling, the messy cleaning is completely eliminated, no need to care about the Pump and radiators.
371  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Which ASIC companies don't mine with their chips? on: September 20, 2013, 05:37:44 AM
Currently, AMD don't mine with their chips as their objective is mainly in vision. AMD did not think about it as AMD thought about the Parallelism but accidentally found by programmers, programmers expands the usages so AMD keep making something like this for better Watt-to-hash.

ASICMiner uses shares to do big before they release some equipment to expend the distribution. Although it is bit old, before big supplier release their big arrays, ASICMiner is currently trusted.

Kncminer is questionable. Still trustful as Kncminer's objective is working together so these people know how to do instead of Avalon.
372  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Crowd funded Bitcoin Mining is dead at current BTC price on: September 20, 2013, 05:23:56 AM
The controlled method is using contract with TSMC based suppliers to aim the R.O.I

Currently, I only trust ASICMiner's, GPUs and Pyramining as Pyramining is doing the right job.
373  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: WARNING: Only buy 1+ Terahash or more Bitcoin miners hardware on: September 20, 2013, 05:22:20 AM
It is possible to get 4X256Gh/s to work. However there are many delays, also the cooling problem can be critical.

Thank you for the advice, however I will switch to Scrypt mining before the SHA-2 raw mining.
374  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Estimate of ASIC pre-orders (6,000 to 8,000 TH/s by end of 2013) on: September 20, 2013, 05:19:36 AM
Pre-order is completely nothing but the first real 500Th/s can be possible by Kncminer due to the shipping. but for caution note. Since there are many problem for the current model. If you like to win, two methods must be used at the same time.
375  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Next difficulty ~149,541,435 ? on: September 20, 2013, 05:17:18 AM
That's crazy.

Buying new mining hardware right now certainly looks like a fools game.

There is a better way, use contracts before develop more.
376  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Could the Bitcoin business model be expanded to super-computing? on: September 20, 2013, 05:15:20 AM
Already in Super-computing before GPU age. People use pool to save initial cost while they can get the desired power during the steps. Same 'signal' can be added up. Which is a basic idea of super computing.

So the model before the ASIC system, it is already in Super-computing.
377  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: If Bitcoins Go Up Will USB Bitcoin Miners Be Profitable? on: September 20, 2013, 05:02:20 AM
Profitability depends on what you do first, then the process.

There are many options which can be tricky to follow up. If There are many Big arrays (For example, 256Gh/s by 4 with Cooking Oil cooling at least, which represents 1,300W) poured into, then The Smallest USB miners will be broken unless you have thousands of to follow up.

P.S The case is from PRC, 300Mh/s by 1000 can be impressive number but the wattage can be problem as each 30Gh/s (100 x 300Mh/s) represents as 250W, You can count on it.

Before January 2014. if you have these trustful miners, then you have little chance to get profit due to low power cost. I have purchased six with the necessary via ebay for pressure test, I have bidded it for USD 210 instead of spending USD 330 for six.

378  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: 关于KNC矿机 on: September 20, 2013, 04:55:56 AM
很多東西就是如此, 也是一句, 強國人暫時更可靠過說謊言的.
379  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Need a recommendation on motherboard on: September 18, 2013, 04:18:57 AM
You better  use A88X with A10 for better.
380  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: LOL at this. on: September 18, 2013, 04:16:51 AM
http://global-mhs.com

Please dont buy its a scam! But would be nice to be truth  Shocked


There are only few options to access the Fast Integer calculations. If you not sure, Bet on AMD with 3M Novec 7100(R) first, then ASICMiner as ASICMiner now has more units to be sold.

I used to ask the first option if it is truly available. Currently 3M discourages many people to use her solution due to properties as You are asking costly liquid to get boiled. If not care throught, You will be completely f**ked up even you have prepared.

P.S The first solution is for militia, Which starts from F these people mentioned. Only few people are capable of this being.

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