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 61 
 on: Today at 09:22:40 AM 
Started by witcher_sense - Last post by wavessurfing
what is the present experience with jade ?
is sparrow the reference associated wallet for utxo gestion ?

 62 
 on: Today at 09:20:49 AM 
Started by Felicity_Tide - Last post by vjudeu
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I will appreciate how the actual transaction are displayed on transaction history.
Let's see:
Code:
+----------------------------------+
| Alice 5.00 BTC -> Bob#2 6.00 BTC |
| Bob#1 7.00 BTC    Bob#3 6.00 BTC |
+----------------------------------+
If Bob will avoid address reuse, then outside observer will see:
Code:
+------------------------------------+
| Alice 5.00 BTC -> Charlie 6.00 BTC |
| Bob   7.00 BTC    Daniel  6.00 BTC |
+------------------------------------+

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How efficient is the Payjoin protocol compare to Coinjoin?
Example CoinJoin: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/privacy-o-meter/69d9d66aae4812b6cf156f32267b773fb2118db696bb847ebd3454a198b59fbd

As you can see, if some tool does not know about this forum topic, it may assume, that gmaxwell had 40k BTC, and sent it to someone else.

However, you never know, if it was only a CoinJoin, or maybe also a PayJoin.

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Aside tx fees, are there other fees involved in using this protocol(Payjoin)?
It depends, how your transaction is created. For example, it is also possible to start from the recipient, create a PSBT, where some dust is spent to some output, with some given amount, and then it can be signed with SIGHASH_SINGLE | SIGHASH_ANYONECANPAY, so that anyone could be a sender, without invalidating signatures. In this way, you start from some "negative fee transaction", and the sender is simply attaching some inputs, to make them non-negative.

Also, in case of the first example above: Alice could just send to Bob this transaction, signed with proper sighashes:
Code:
+----------------------------------+
| Alice 5.00 BTC -> Bob#2 6.00 BTC |
+----------------------------------+
And then, Bob could attach more inputs and outputs, to make the transaction from above, by signing everything with SIGHASH_ALL. And then, nobody would know, if Bob received 5 BTC, or maybe 6 BTC, or maybe Alice received 1 BTC from Bob. Outside observers will only see this:
Code:
+------------------------------------+
| Alice 5.00 BTC -> Charlie 6.00 BTC |
| Bob   7.00 BTC    Daniel  6.00 BTC |
+------------------------------------+
And the situation is even more complicated, when you have Schnorr signatures, and you don't know, if behind some Alice's address is actually only Alice, or maybe some 3-of-3 multisig, combined into a single signature.

 63 
 on: Today at 09:20:01 AM 
Started by BlackHatCoiner - Last post by franky1
I would have problem with petty trolls who try to to control what other people can and cannot do with their coins, though.

says the guy that promotes that even innocent people should spend their coins through mixers
says the guy that promotes that people should transact less on bitcoin and lock value up to use other networks

im starting to wonder if blackhat was in receipt of the same campaign sponsorship as gmax, and both contracts expired so now pretending to have different views to their previous multiyear content
(pretending to be the good guy this week, now their payments for being the badguy have stopped)

as always thinking they can change events of history with a few hugs and ass kisses to appease the masses..
.. i dont think they will ever change and this is just a platitude stage hoping it will wash away all their failures previously

 64 
 on: Today at 09:19:50 AM 
Started by ContentWriter - Last post by Lucius
Since you apply creativity to writing, you could consider what would happen if banks were banned, while you're at it. CEXs collaborate with the system and the political power, just like banks. The probability of them being banned, especially worldwide, as _act_ points out, is close to 0.

The system allows CEXs to exist, but it also has the power to ban them, so although the chances of that are very small, I think they still exist in a scenario where some world governments would decide to deal with cryptocurrencies by declaring them illegal. This will not happen as long as the main focus is on trading, and minimal on using cryptocurrencies as a means of payment.

 65 
 on: Today at 09:19:38 AM 
Started by krishnaverma - Last post by altecbit
Yeah, I got a buddy into Bitcoin a while back. At first, he was skeptical, but after some chats and showing him how it works, he took the plunge. He hasn't stopped thanking me since

 66 
 on: Today at 09:18:24 AM 
Started by ContentWriter - Last post by CageMabok
Some countries already blame crypto for their economic woes. We saw this with the harassment of some crypto executives and even jail terms for some. What will happen to Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies if most countries ban centralized exchanges? What steps are the crypto enthusiasts taking to preempt this?

Logically, will people who do not use crypto always be prosperous and not miserable by relying solely on fiat money whose value is completely uncertain and even goes down? And if there are countries that consider crypto to be a bad thing and punish crypto users based on their misery, what about the people who have succeeded through crypto with the financial freedom that has been abundant in their lives? Will they also be punished even though we only show them as real examples for such clear proof?

I think that currently there are still countries like that, maybe these countries are led by people who are technologically illiterate and don't want to accept the latest technological developments through anything, including through crypto. Because misery or distress is a pure thing that arises from each of us, so no one should blame one thing, such as crypto or anything else. Another example is when people get drunk because of alcoholic drinks, should we blame the drink maker by not seeing ourselves as those who drink it?

 67 
 on: Today at 09:12:59 AM 
Started by Princess Leah - Last post by DeathAngel
I started buying in 2015, I was aware of Bitcoin in 2013 but when I thought about buying the Gox crash happened. I was scared away then & only started buying in 2015. It worked out really well for me any way butcI could have had more Bitcoin if I’d had the balls to buy earlier. We all could have more Bitcoin but I guess we could have less too. I’m happy with my situation.

 68 
 on: Today at 09:09:06 AM 
Started by willi9974 - Last post by kekeck33
Hi Willi
I add another miner
user: kekeck_2
miner: Avalon nano 3,
hash: 2,1 THs (low power mode)
regards

 69 
 on: Today at 09:03:11 AM 
Started by ContentWriter - Last post by Kruw
Some countries already blame crypto for their economic woes. We saw this with the harassment of some crypto executives and even jail terms for some. What will happen to Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies if most countries ban centralized exchanges? What steps are the crypto enthusiasts taking to preempt this?

Bitcoin existed before Bitcoin exchanges did, so there's no problem. You can just buy goods and services with Bitcoin, adding a fiat middleman is just friction.

 70 
 on: Today at 09:02:56 AM 
Started by Yamane_Keto - Last post by BitcoinGirl.Club
It means from now we do not need a mixer or any other coinjoin service. We can do it through Electrum?

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