ErebusBat (OP)
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August 30, 2012, 04:05:18 PM |
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I'd like to make a suggestion. Have paybtc gpg sign the completed list. Then pirate knows that info is verified. Everything else is under paybtc's purview.
If he would do this I would love it. Even if he would just take the user names, confirm them with withdrawal addreses and then export out of his system that would be great. I would prefer that payb.tc do it, but he is busy and indicated he will not.
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Otoh
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August 30, 2012, 04:56:34 PM |
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It will be interesting to see what % of Bitcoin Max's 373 users & what % of the total BTC held via him add their info here - if that approx can be made public, if it looks like being more than 50% of either or if pirate requests then I would hope that paybtc would agree to follow the wishes of his clients and to verify the list against his records, I can't see any harm in providing this info to pirate & personally would rather he was given it direct from paybtc but if not then I hope he will at least confirm the info for those that would like it passed on.
Btw - typo on the form: 'balance'
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ErebusBat (OP)
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August 30, 2012, 05:16:03 PM |
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It will be interesting to see what % of Bitcoin Max's 373 users & what % of the total BTC held via him add their info here - if that approx can be made public, if it looks like being more than 50% of either or if pirate requests then I would hope that paybtc would agree to follow the wishes of his clients and to verify the list against his records, I can't see any harm in providing this info to pirate & personally would rather he was given it direct from paybtc but if not then I hope he will at least confirm the info for those that would like it passed on.
I can say that right now very few people have filled out the form, but it is still new. I would also wish that payb.tc would just add a check to our account and we could go in and opt-in to this. However given that he is on vacation until sunday and pirates deadline is tomorrow, I am attempting to do something.
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ErebusBat (OP)
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August 30, 2012, 05:18:46 PM |
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IMPORTANT NOTICE
After talking with people here I changed the OP so that I can share the details with pirate OR payb.tc. If you have already entered your details and do NOT agree to this change then post here or PM me and I will remove them. (Although I doubt anyone will have a problem, just doing my due diligence.)
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BinaryMage
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August 30, 2012, 05:29:53 PM |
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Thanks ErebusBat. Who knows if anything will come of this, but I suppose it's worth a try.
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ErebusBat (OP)
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August 30, 2012, 05:34:45 PM |
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Thanks ErebusBat. Who knows if anything will come of this, but I suppose it's worth a try.
Exactly.... I don't know either. But at least it is something.
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DutchBrat
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August 30, 2012, 06:24:50 PM |
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Thanks ErebusBat. Who knows if anything will come of this, but I suppose it's worth a try.
Exactly.... I don't know either. But at least it is something. Submitted +1
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ErebusBat (OP)
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August 30, 2012, 07:15:06 PM |
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Thanks ErebusBat. Who knows if anything will come of this, but I suppose it's worth a try.
Exactly.... I don't know either. But at least it is something. Submitted +1 Received thanks!
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bitsire
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August 30, 2012, 08:38:02 PM |
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Submitted. Thanks for doing this ErebusBat - I know most likely nothing will come of it but as you said, it is better to at least try.
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ErebusBat (OP)
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August 30, 2012, 08:46:03 PM |
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Submitted. Thanks for doing this ErebusBat - I know most likely nothing will come of it but as you said, it is better to at least try.
No problem... thanks for the support.
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August 30, 2012, 09:17:45 PM |
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Loosely quoted (as PIRATE has since deleted all traces of it....)...if you borrow or invest other user's money into my program, I DO NOT WANT TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT, OR YOU WILL LOSE YOUR ACCOUNT...I ONLY DEAL WITH DIRECT ACCOUNT HOLDERS !
Withholding such information at this point CLEARLY suits the rules and regulations Trendon initially set our accounts up with and the forum administration could very well reach back into page revisions and pull THAT statement out of this were to ever become a legal issue, or his so-called 'grounds' for REFUSING TO RE-PAY LENDERS. In light of that information, his request for information about the lenders now makes sense. He has no plausible deniability with respect to the pass-throughs because their existence was posted about all over the board and he acknowledged their existence in IRC. He can't maintain any fiction that he didn't know the people operating the pass-throughs were investing other people's money - he knows very well that the funds aren't owed to the pass-through operators but to their clients and there's plenty of evidence to establish that. Pass-through operators should obviously consult their own lawyers about this, but I would expect that pirate's lawyers will continue advising him to pay no-one but the actual lenders.
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All I can say is that this is Bitcoin. I don't believe it until I see six confirmations.
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August 31, 2012, 02:40:14 AM |
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My entry for the quote of the year contest: (my bolding) That being said I think most people are honest and it will not be a problem.
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ErebusBat (OP)
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August 31, 2012, 02:57:03 AM |
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My entry for the quote of the year contest: (my bolding) That being said I think most people are honest and it will not be a problem.
I stand behind that quote. I think most people are, given normal circumstances (not in a prison for example).
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September 01, 2012, 10:16:12 PM |
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So how did the list turn out?
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ErebusBat (OP)
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September 01, 2012, 11:04:11 PM |
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DutchBrat
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September 01, 2012, 11:36:44 PM |
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Now you sound like pirate: you write something, but it isn't at all clear lol Care to elaborate ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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mrSprinkles
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September 02, 2012, 01:45:10 AM |
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Is there any point adding my details now that it is past Friday, or no?
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ErebusBat (OP)
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September 02, 2012, 01:56:29 AM |
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Is there any point adding my details now that it is past Friday, or no? I can't say for sure, but I don't think it would hurt.
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