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October 01, 2015, 06:29:12 AM
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So whats up with Bitmain, they listed Batch 2 and Batch 3 of the S7 and Batch 1 has not shipped yet? Also, Batch 3 is $200 bucks cheaper then batch 1. Nothing like feeling screwed! They will all probably ship around same time and if you buy Batch 3 its $200 less. Thats not right. Also Batch 2 has less hash with same amount of chips? I don't get that unless its unlocked at the factory or maybe batch 1 and 3 is overclocked....

Anyone have any insight?

Batch 1 & 3 are meeting the original spes and are running at 600MHz, 1210W giving 4860GH/S

They then seem to have some units, that guessing have an unacceptable HW Error rate, so they called them Batch 2, have turned them down to 575MHz, 1160W giving 4660GH/S selling at $73 less than Batch 3.  Smiley

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October 01, 2015, 02:27:51 PM
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So whats up with Bitmain, they listed Batch 2 and Batch 3 of the S7 and Batch 1 has not shipped yet? Also, Batch 3 is $200 bucks cheaper then batch 1. Nothing like feeling screwed! They will all probably ship around same time and if you buy Batch 3 its $200 less. Thats not right. Also Batch 2 has less hash with same amount of chips? I don't get that unless its unlocked at the factory or maybe batch 1 and 3 is overclocked....

Anyone have any insight?

Batch 1 & 3 are meeting the original spes and are running at 600MHz, 1210W giving 4860GH/S

They then seem to have some units, that guessing have an unacceptable HW Error rate, so they called them Batch 2, have turned them down to 575MHz, 1160W giving 4660GH/S selling at $73 less than Batch 3.  Smiley

Rich


Insights hmm. Let see. Wasn't Bitmain offering some credit or partial refunds on the Batch 1 depending on what you got and the price difference? Pretty sure some people said they wish they would get more but they got something in compensation?


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October 01, 2015, 02:30:20 PM
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So whats up with Bitmain, they listed Batch 2 and Batch 3 of the S7 and Batch 1 has not shipped yet? Also, Batch 3 is $200 bucks cheaper then batch 1. Nothing like feeling screwed! They will all probably ship around same time and if you buy Batch 3 its $200 less. Thats not right. Also Batch 2 has less hash with same amount of chips? I don't get that unless its unlocked at the factory or maybe batch 1 and 3 is overclocked....

Anyone have any insight?

Batch 1 & 3 are meeting the original spes and are running at 600MHz, 1210W giving 4860GH/S

They then seem to have some units, that guessing have an unacceptable HW Error rate, so they called them Batch 2, have turned them down to 575MHz, 1160W giving 4660GH/S selling at $73 less than Batch 3.  Smiley

Rich


Insights hmm. Let see. Wasn't Bitmain offering some credit or partial refunds on the Batch 1 depending on what you got and the price difference? Pretty sure some people said they wish they would get more but they got something in compensation?

Yes, but I thought that was due to issues with PSU's on the S4's. The 1st batch had a high PSU fail rate. I don't think they did anything with S5's, I bought a bunch but can't remember if it was batch 1 or later.

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October 01, 2015, 02:37:28 PM
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So whats up with Bitmain, they listed Batch 2 and Batch 3 of the S7 and Batch 1 has not shipped yet? Also, Batch 3 is $200 bucks cheaper then batch 1. Nothing like feeling screwed! They will all probably ship around same time and if you buy Batch 3 its $200 less. Thats not right. Also Batch 2 has less hash with same amount of chips? I don't get that unless its unlocked at the factory or maybe batch 1 and 3 is overclocked....

Anyone have any insight?

Batch 1 & 3 are meeting the original spes and are running at 600MHz, 1210W giving 4860GH/S

They then seem to have some units, that guessing have an unacceptable HW Error rate, so they called them Batch 2, have turned them down to 575MHz, 1160W giving 4660GH/S selling at $73 less than Batch 3.  Smiley

Rich


Insights hmm. Let see. Wasn't Bitmain offering some credit or partial refunds on the Batch 1 depending on what you got and the price difference? Pretty sure some people said they wish they would get more but they got something in compensation?

Yes, but I thought that was due to issues with PSU's on the S4's. The 1st batch had a high PSU fail rate. I don't think they did anything with S5's, I bought a bunch but can't remember if it was batch 1 or later.

They gave credits for S3 Batch 1 for all units because so many were hit and miss, etc. I think if you have an issue with your miner, even if its just the price change, they usually don't fuck you over. I can swear someone merely said he got a small refund because of the price difference.


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October 01, 2015, 03:05:03 PM
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So whats up with Bitmain, they listed Batch 2 and Batch 3 of the S7 and Batch 1 has not shipped yet? Also, Batch 3 is $200 bucks cheaper then batch 1. Nothing like feeling screwed! They will all probably ship around same time and if you buy Batch 3 its $200 less. Thats not right. Also Batch 2 has less hash with same amount of chips? I don't get that unless its unlocked at the factory or maybe batch 1 and 3 is overclocked....

Anyone have any insight?

Batch 1 & 3 are meeting the original spes and are running at 600MHz, 1210W giving 4860GH/S

They then seem to have some units, that guessing have an unacceptable HW Error rate, so they called them Batch 2, have turned them down to 575MHz, 1160W giving 4660GH/S selling at $73 less than Batch 3.  Smiley

Rich


Insights hmm. Let see. Wasn't Bitmain offering some credit or partial refunds on the Batch 1 depending on what you got and the price difference? Pretty sure some people said they wish they would get more but they got something in compensation?

Yes, but I thought that was due to issues with PSU's on the S4's. The 1st batch had a high PSU fail rate. I don't think they did anything with S5's, I bought a bunch but can't remember if it was batch 1 or later.

They gave credits for S3 Batch 1 for all units because so many were hit and miss, etc. I think if you have an issue with your miner, even if its just the price change, they usually don't fuck you over. I can swear someone merely said he got a small refund because of the price difference.

Ok, Well when I finally get the two I ordered and assuming they run without issue, I will submit a ticket for a adjustment But I did notice that now their sales page states the following. I don't think they had this on the S5 sales pages and hence they provided some refunds.

Note:

The price of bitcoin mining machines must be adjusted frequently according to many factors, including BTC/USD exchange rate, the network difficulty, and expected difficulty increase. Refund requests based on price changes cannot be honored.

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October 01, 2015, 03:12:14 PM
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So whats up with Bitmain, they listed Batch 2 and Batch 3 of the S7 and Batch 1 has not shipped yet? Also, Batch 3 is $200 bucks cheaper then batch 1. Nothing like feeling screwed! They will all probably ship around same time and if you buy Batch 3 its $200 less. Thats not right. Also Batch 2 has less hash with same amount of chips? I don't get that unless its unlocked at the factory or maybe batch 1 and 3 is overclocked....

Anyone have any insight?

Batch 1 & 3 are meeting the original spes and are running at 600MHz, 1210W giving 4860GH/S

They then seem to have some units, that guessing have an unacceptable HW Error rate, so they called them Batch 2, have turned them down to 575MHz, 1160W giving 4660GH/S selling at $73 less than Batch 3.  Smiley

Rich


Insights hmm. Let see. Wasn't Bitmain offering some credit or partial refunds on the Batch 1 depending on what you got and the price difference? Pretty sure some people said they wish they would get more but they got something in compensation?

Yes, but I thought that was due to issues with PSU's on the S4's. The 1st batch had a high PSU fail rate. I don't think they did anything with S5's, I bought a bunch but can't remember if it was batch 1 or later.

They gave credits for S3 Batch 1 for all units because so many were hit and miss, etc. I think if you have an issue with your miner, even if its just the price change, they usually don't fuck you over. I can swear someone merely said he got a small refund because of the price difference.

Ok, Well when I finally get the two I ordered and assuming they run without issue, I will submit a ticket for a adjustment But I did notice that now their sales page states the following. I don't think they had this on the S5 sales pages and hence they provided some refunds.

Note:

The price of bitcoin mining machines must be adjusted frequently according to many factors, including BTC/USD exchange rate, the network difficulty, and expected difficulty increase. Refund requests based on price changes cannot be honored.


I guess they have that there as a effective way of shooting you down. It is possible you need to pad your request with other valid concerns, like the unit not performing all that great, minor stability issues etc. But i might be wrong and only imagined them giving a 70$~ back on batch one but i can swear i saw it somewhere...


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October 03, 2015, 01:09:43 PM
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So whats up with Bitmain, they listed Batch 2 and Batch 3 of the S7 and Batch 1 has not shipped yet? Also, Batch 3 is $200 bucks cheaper then batch 1. Nothing like feeling screwed! They will all probably ship around same time and if you buy Batch 3 its $200 less. Thats not right. Also Batch 2 has less hash with same amount of chips? I don't get that unless its unlocked at the factory or maybe batch 1 and 3 is overclocked....

Anyone have any insight?

Batch 1 & 3 are meeting the original spes and are running at 600MHz, 1210W giving 4860GH/S

They then seem to have some units, that guessing have an unacceptable HW Error rate, so they called them Batch 2, have turned them down to 575MHz, 1160W giving 4660GH/S selling at $73 less than Batch 3.  Smiley

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If i remember right they have a 90 day warranty on these units? (anyone?) man that is a lot of heat and complexity to find out that after the elec burnt and these btc prices for the thing to just brick at month four...that in itself would give me pause (but then again I'm a coward now with NEW at least home miner equip etc etc at 13.5c kwh where I'm at. I did a sp10 1.4th spondoolies i saw on ebay for 250 bucks and I lost 35 bucks a month using the www.tradeblock.com calculator and that includes a PSU in the unit...anyway all well beyond my efforts now ..even so the 90 day warranty would be unnerving to me ..even if it kinda made sense ..just saying Smiley Maybe someone in Oregon can pull this off or with cheap elec ..me er not so much.


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October 03, 2015, 03:58:09 PM
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So whats up with Bitmain, they listed Batch 2 and Batch 3 of the S7 and Batch 1 has not shipped yet? Also, Batch 3 is $200 bucks cheaper then batch 1. Nothing like feeling screwed! They will all probably ship around same time and if you buy Batch 3 its $200 less. Thats not right. Also Batch 2 has less hash with same amount of chips? I don't get that unless its unlocked at the factory or maybe batch 1 and 3 is overclocked....

Anyone have any insight?

Batch 1 & 3 are meeting the original spes and are running at 600MHz, 1210W giving 4860GH/S

They then seem to have some units, that guessing have an unacceptable HW Error rate, so they called them Batch 2, have turned them down to 575MHz, 1160W giving 4660GH/S selling at $73 less than Batch 3.  Smiley

Rich


If i remember right they have a 90 day warranty on these units? (anyone?) man that is a lot of heat and complexity to find out that after the elec burnt and these btc prices for the thing to just brick at month four...that in itself would give me pause (but then again I'm a coward now with NEW at least home miner equip etc etc at 13.5c kwh where I'm at. I did a sp10 1.4th spondoolies i saw on ebay for 250 bucks and I lost 35 bucks a month using the www.tradeblock.com calculator and that includes a PSU in the unit...anyway all well beyond my efforts now ..even so the 90 day warranty would be unnerving to me ..even if it kinda made sense ..just saying Smiley Maybe someone in Oregon can pull this off or with cheap elec ..me er not so much.



There is a warranty but RMA is at your cost. And shipping to China isint so cheap as to get stuff from China, apparently. If you would just take a picture and they would send you replacement part, it would be nice but no... You have to ship them back the stuff, sometime the whole miner.

You then lose mining time. All in all, its not a very pleasant experience. In the best of case, you only need a new controller but there's some horrible story of what happened to people right now. Even with the S7 just now.


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October 05, 2015, 02:07:07 PM
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There will always be a competition between competitors maybe spondoolies gonna release their ultimate mining machine yet
but in my reseach in bitcoin machines there is no forever in the top! there will always be a new one, just like smart phone now!
1GB ram, 2GB ram, 3GB ram 4GB ram etc...

and consumers will always buy the new one or the latest,
but I prefer the lowest price possible if the performance is just the same right!  Roll Eyes
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