Brasileirão 2025 - Brazilian Championship Serie A

[Pumared]

Fortaleza and Santos are both struggling to win. Both teams will push for a win in this match, but a draw seems more likely.
Gremio will host Corinthians. The 2 teams are level on points before the match, with only 1 averages difference. Of course the home team has the advantage in this match but Corinthians will not give up easily.

It was really a surprise, I think that if Fortaleza started scoring they would have won the game. Unfortunately they only scored a goal after conceding two goals. At least this indicates an improvement for the team that is doing very badly.

[Jossque]

The match against Fortaleza Santos was more exciting than the other matches. Santos led 2-0 at half-time. Fortaleza scored in the second half from penalties in the 71st and 74th minutes, but the hosts lost in extra time.  Fortaleza played a more dominant game. They managed exactly 32 shots. Despite shooting 4 times more than their opponent, they couldn't win the game. That must be their bad luck in the offensive line. Fortaleza deserved at least a point.

[Adiljutt156]

Fortaleza and Santos are both struggling to win. Both teams will push for a win in this match, but a draw seems more likely.
Gremio will host Corinthians. The 2 teams are level on points before the match, with only 1 averages difference. Of course the home team has the advantage in this match but Corinthians will not give up easily.

The stats of Fortaleza Esporte Clube football team was very well and their shots were 32 in this match and 10 shots were on target. The possession percentage of that team was brilliant in this match and that was 58 percent but that team could not do more goals in this match and two players did goals in this match. Pikachu was a person who did two goals in this match and he did goal at 71 minutes and that goal was at penalty and Fortaleza Esporte Clube team did second goal at 74 minutes of the match and that team score was less in this match. Ricardo did last goal of the match when score of both teams was equal and he was match changer of this match.He did last goal at 92 minutes which was not easy for that player.

[Jossque]

Gremio couldn't win the match despite taking the lead. Gremio took the lead in the 29th minute through Braithwaite but conceded 7 minutes later. We can say that 2 teams played on equal level in the match. As the 2 teams had the same points before the match, they remained the same after the match.
Mineiro managed to win at home. Mineiro won 2-0 against Internacional to increase their points tally to 20.
Vasco de Gama did the unexpected and won 3-1 away to Sao Paulo. The hosts were the favorites, but they didn't play with enough pressure.

[rdluffy]

It was really a great result, especially with so many players missing and playing away from home. I believe Dorival can do a good job at Corinthians, he's a fairly decent club coach. He's not top-tier, but he's not terrible either. I didn’t place a bet either; I thought about it, but decided to leave it. I’ll save my bets for the Club World Cup, I think there I can make some good ones.

I'm also expecting and anxious to the club world cup hehe

The games are officially on hiatus until July 12
Do you have any team surprises that surprised you positively?
And negatively?
This is a question to everyone

I bet the vast majority of you were disappointed with Santos 
Most of you must have thought that Santos could even lead the league because of Neymar, but that's definitely not what happened hehehe

[Adiljutt156]

Gremio couldn't win the match despite taking the lead. Gremio took the lead in the 29th minute through Braithwaite but conceded 7 minutes later. We can say that 2 teams played on equal level in the match. As the 2 teams had the same points before the match, they remained the same after the match.
Mineiro managed to win at home. Mineiro won 2-0 against Internacional to increase their points tally to 20.
Vasco de Gama did the unexpected and won 3-1 away to Sao Paulo. The hosts were the favorites, but they didn't play with enough pressure.

We are watching matches if series A and last match was between Corinthians football team and Grêmio football team and that was one two sided match because both teams played well in this match and we saw 2 goals in this match. Braithwaite was a person who did first goal of the match and he did this goal at 29 minutes of the match and after this goal we saw another goal by opponent team and Bidon did second goal of the match and he did this goal at 36 minutes.The shots of Grêmio football team were more in this match and these were 16 and 6 shots were on target and possession percentage of that team was 40 percent which was no impressive and possession percentage of opponent team was brilliant but that team could not win this match.

[mikel_012]

If Neymar's renewal were to happen again, I believe they would negotiate very well all of his and the club's percentages, all from scratch. Because Santos had more losses than profits with Neymar, where a good part of the profits went directly to his father's holding company. Santos kept what was left, and it was very little.

It happened again. Neymar decided to renew with Santos until end of 2026 and will sign the new contract on 27 of this month. I think it's not 100% oficially announced by Santos or Neymar, but many sources say this is what is going to happen. And there are many interviews with Neymar about Santos being his home, so can only believe this is true.

[Volgastallion]

If Neymar's renewal were to happen again, I believe they would negotiate very well all of his and the club's percentages, all from scratch. Because Santos had more losses than profits with Neymar, where a good part of the profits went directly to his father's holding company. Santos kept what was left, and it was very little.

It happened again. Neymar decided to renew with Santos until end of 2026 and will sign the new contract on 27 of this month. I think it's not 100% oficially announced by Santos or Neymar, but many sources say this is what is going to happen. And there are many interviews with Neymar about Santos being his home, so can only believe this is true.

Most of the south americans players are super attached to they original sites, so i believe Neymar is also one of this cases and he doesnt want to go far again from all his friends and family.

I really hope to see him recovering his level, he is one of the must fun to see players across the world. But until now he was a failure in his second stage on Brazil soil.

[Slow death]

Do you have any team surprises that surprised you positively?

Flamengo has definitely managed to surprise me so far. They have played 11 games and only lost 1 and we are at the top of the table and with Cruzeiro's draw, Flamengo just needs to win to be 3 points ahead of Cruzeiro. That would be very good.

And negatively?

Botafogo is definitely managing to surprise me in a negative way. They have played 11 games and lost 3 and are in 8th place, for a team that were champions last season, their bad start is very strange.

I bet the vast majority of you were disappointed with Santos 
Most of you must have thought that Santos could even lead the league because of Neymar, but that's definitely not what happened hehehe

 

If Neymar made Santos stay on top, I would be shocked, that would really shock me. The guy doesn't play, so I already expected that Santos wouldn't have any change in terms of performance with his arrival. The only thing that Santos is getting is a lot of attention in a funny way thanks to Neymar.

[Pumared]

The match against Fortaleza Santos was more exciting than the other matches. Santos led 2-0 at half-time. Fortaleza scored in the second half from penalties in the 71st and 74th minutes, but the hosts lost in extra time.  Fortaleza played a more dominant game. They managed exactly 32 shots. Despite shooting 4 times more than their opponent, they couldn't win the game. That must be their bad luck in the offensive line. Fortaleza deserved at least a point.

It's because of attitudes like this one from Fortaleza that I believe in the team. They are missing some small detail for them to literally turn this game around and get out of the bottom of the table. They have a team, but there is still some detail missing for them to be complete, because they showed everything they have in this game against Santos.

[rdluffy]

If Neymar's renewal were to happen again, I believe they would negotiate very well all of his and the club's percentages, all from scratch. Because Santos had more losses than profits with Neymar, where a good part of the profits went directly to his father's holding company. Santos kept what was left, and it was very little.

It happened again. Neymar decided to renew with Santos until end of 2026 and will sign the new contract on 27 of this month. I think it's not 100% oficially announced by Santos or Neymar, but many sources say this is what is going to happen. And there are many interviews with Neymar about Santos being his home, so can only believe this is true.

I saw some news here: https://ge.globo.com/sp/santos-e-regiao/futebol/times/santos/noticia/2025/06/17/neymar-diz-que-ficou-perto-de-defender-o-fluminense-na-copa-do-mundo-de-clubes.ghtml
This source is in portuguese only guys

Neymar said that he almost signed with Fluminense for the Club World Cup that is taking place now but that he preferred to stay in Santos to train and improve his fitness
The article also mentions that Neymar's father, who is also his manager, went to Miami to listen to some offers from European teams
I think it will depend on which team will make him an offer or whether he stays in Santos.

What are your bets for Neymar?
Stay at Santos or go to a European team?

[Slow death]

If Neymar's renewal were to happen again, I believe they would negotiate very well all of his and the club's percentages, all from scratch. Because Santos had more losses than profits with Neymar, where a good part of the profits went directly to his father's holding company. Santos kept what was left, and it was very little.

It happened again. Neymar decided to renew with Santos until end of 2026 and will sign the new contract on 27 of this month. I think it's not 100% oficially announced by Santos or Neymar, but many sources say this is what is going to happen. And there are many interviews with Neymar about Santos being his home, so can only believe this is true.

I saw some news here: https://ge.globo.com/sp/santos-e-regiao/futebol/times/santos/noticia/2025/06/17/neymar-diz-que-ficou-perto-de-defender-o-fluminense-na-copa-do-mundo-de-clubes.ghtml
This source is in portuguese only guys

Neymar said that he almost signed with Fluminense for the Club World Cup that is taking place now but that he preferred to stay in Santos to train and improve his fitness
The article also mentions that Neymar's father, who is also his manager, went to Miami to listen to some offers from European teams
I think it will depend on which team will make him an offer or whether he stays in Santos.

What are your bets for Neymar?
Stay at Santos or go to a European team?

My bet is that he stays at Santos. I heard a rumor that he would stay at Santos until December 2026, if I'm not mistaken. I also doubt very much that any European club will want him, knowing that his physical condition is very fragile. He can't even play 10 games without getting injured.

We're not talking about 20 or 30 games. We're talking about at least 10 games. Most of the time, his injury isn't caused by a serious tackle on his leg by an opponent. He often suffers muscle injuries without other opposing players having caused any physical damage to his body. That's the most serious thing. European clubs won't want a player who won't play at all.

[mikel_012]

I saw some news here: https://ge.globo.com/sp/santos-e-regiao/futebol/times/santos/noticia/2025/06/17/neymar-diz-que-ficou-perto-de-defender-o-fluminense-na-copa-do-mundo-de-clubes.ghtml
This source is in portuguese only guys

Neymar said that he almost signed with Fluminense for the Club World Cup that is taking place now but that he preferred to stay in Santos to train and improve his fitness
The article also mentions that Neymar's father, who is also his manager, went to Miami to listen to some offers from European teams
I think it will depend on which team will make him an offer or whether he stays in Santos.

What are your bets for Neymar?
Stay at Santos or go to a European team?

I think Santos. Right now Neymar father seems to want to make Santos work around Neymar so there is no reason to join a European team where he will just be a player and nothing more. Just with marketing in the brazilian market they can earn a lot more money. Even buy part of Santos to try to make it shine again.

The way Neymar is playing now, he will get hurt and do nothing for weeks if he goes to a serious team.

But I was very surprised to see that he almost joined Fluminense

[Pumared]

If Neymar's renewal were to happen again, I believe they would negotiate very well all of his and the club's percentages, all from scratch. Because Santos had more losses than profits with Neymar, where a good part of the profits went directly to his father's holding company. Santos kept what was left, and it was very little.

It happened again. Neymar decided to renew with Santos until end of 2026 and will sign the new contract on 27 of this month. I think it's not 100% oficially announced by Santos or Neymar, but many sources say this is what is going to happen. And there are many interviews with Neymar about Santos being his home, so can only believe this is true.

I saw some news here: https://ge.globo.com/sp/santos-e-regiao/futebol/times/santos/noticia/2025/06/17/neymar-diz-que-ficou-perto-de-defender-o-fluminense-na-copa-do-mundo-de-clubes.ghtml
This source is in portuguese only guys

Neymar said that he almost signed with Fluminense for the Club World Cup that is taking place now but that he preferred to stay in Santos to train and improve his fitness
The article also mentions that Neymar's father, who is also his manager, went to Miami to listen to some offers from European teams
I think it will depend on which team will make him an offer or whether he stays in Santos.

What are your bets for Neymar?
Stay at Santos or go to a European team?

He will stay at Santos forever. Be sure of that. If he leaves Santos, he will go to another team in Brazil. Nothing more than that. I think it is unlikely that he will leave the club where he has everything in his hands. And I will say more, this trip by his father must be just marketing.

[l3pox]

Cruzeiro managed to defeat Palmeiras 2-1 at home. Cruzeiro scored 2 goals in the first 4 minutes of the match and led 2-0 at half time. Palmeiras didn't let up and started to put the pressure on their opponent. Palmeiras reduced the deficit to 1 point with 5 minutes to play but could not get any points from this match.Cruzeiro moved up to 2nd place with this win while Palmeiras dropped to 4th place.
Internacional failed to beat Fluminense at home. The hosts were the favorites, but there were many chances.

Surprisingly, the Cruzeiro game was more predictable than Internacional vs. Fluminense, statistically speaking. I ended up getting the bet right on Cruzeiro, but I didn't bet on InterxFlu because it was uncertain what could happen, especially with Internacional playing at home, which historically is an advantage in the championship.

what are you betting on most often?
only the winner or "winner or draw" or you go for harder things like number of goals or even these impossible ones like who will score?

I find it easier to bet just on who's winning but odds are not so good sometimes
I don't think it's really worth to risk it all for a 20% payment because sometimes reality will go against the statistical data and surprise us

It depends a lot. For example, yesterday I bet on Brazil or a draw, but I also bet on Argentina winning. So there are cases where there is a risk of teams being very evenly matched, so it is interesting to use a draw in your favor because you will already have 2/3 of the odds. But there are cases where the team is superior and there is not that much risk, so I bet on it winning.

Regarding low odds, I already think about taking them from 0.20. Because depending on the amount you bet, 20% is a high value. And normally, if you study well, it is very difficult to go wrong. Obviously it will happen, but the chances are low.

I understand that bets that pay 20% will end up being quite sure and you don't have a lot of chance to lose but at the end of the day if you make 1 small mistake it is enough to have all your money gone so I'm not sure if it's worth it
unless you have a proven track record where you have long streaks of winning, like 6+, this would be enough to compensate for mistakes
even better if it's 10+

The thing is, to bet with 20% odds, you need to be sure and know the team. I like these odds in the Brazilian Championship because they are almost certain, and when the team with these odds plays at home, it is even better. Therefore, do not bet on 0.20 odds that you do not know, but rather on those that you know and everything indicates will happen. This way, you have room to bet large amounts.

yes
but no one knows the future and high probability outcomes sometimes break, the same as saying that low probability outcomes sometimes happens

the math is not hard to do, for every number of losses on a +20% odds bet you'll have to win a certain number of times for every time you miss

if you want to bet with smaller odds you'll probably miss more but end up making more money each time you are correct.

[Pumared]

Cruzeiro managed to defeat Palmeiras 2-1 at home. Cruzeiro scored 2 goals in the first 4 minutes of the match and led 2-0 at half time. Palmeiras didn't let up and started to put the pressure on their opponent. Palmeiras reduced the deficit to 1 point with 5 minutes to play but could not get any points from this match.Cruzeiro moved up to 2nd place with this win while Palmeiras dropped to 4th place.
Internacional failed to beat Fluminense at home. The hosts were the favorites, but there were many chances.

Surprisingly, the Cruzeiro game was more predictable than Internacional vs. Fluminense, statistically speaking. I ended up getting the bet right on Cruzeiro, but I didn't bet on InterxFlu because it was uncertain what could happen, especially with Internacional playing at home, which historically is an advantage in the championship.

what are you betting on most often?
only the winner or "winner or draw" or you go for harder things like number of goals or even these impossible ones like who will score?

I find it easier to bet just on who's winning but odds are not so good sometimes
I don't think it's really worth to risk it all for a 20% payment because sometimes reality will go against the statistical data and surprise us

It depends a lot. For example, yesterday I bet on Brazil or a draw, but I also bet on Argentina winning. So there are cases where there is a risk of teams being very evenly matched, so it is interesting to use a draw in your favor because you will already have 2/3 of the odds. But there are cases where the team is superior and there is not that much risk, so I bet on it winning.

Regarding low odds, I already think about taking them from 0.20. Because depending on the amount you bet, 20% is a high value. And normally, if you study well, it is very difficult to go wrong. Obviously it will happen, but the chances are low.

I understand that bets that pay 20% will end up being quite sure and you don't have a lot of chance to lose but at the end of the day if you make 1 small mistake it is enough to have all your money gone so I'm not sure if it's worth it
unless you have a proven track record where you have long streaks of winning, like 6+, this would be enough to compensate for mistakes
even better if it's 10+

The thing is, to bet with 20% odds, you need to be sure and know the team. I like these odds in the Brazilian Championship because they are almost certain, and when the team with these odds plays at home, it is even better. Therefore, do not bet on 0.20 odds that you do not know, but rather on those that you know and everything indicates will happen. This way, you have room to bet large amounts.

yes
but no one knows the future and high probability outcomes sometimes break, the same as saying that low probability outcomes sometimes happens

the math is not hard to do, for every number of losses on a +20% odds bet you'll have to win a certain number of times for every time you miss

if you want to bet with smaller odds you'll probably miss more but end up making more money each time you are correct.

Perfect, but I believe in this strategy precisely because it was with it that I got more than 20un accumulated ones. So I continue using it because it works. And for me it is enough, especially in the Brasileirão which is something more familiar.