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July 22, 2025, 11:17:24 AM
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Countries where gambling is prohibited, it's possible that they have a lot of underground gambling. I think many of them are in Asia and they're the hotpot of gambling in there. But, these underground gambling areas are related or owned by syndicates so, it's kind of hard to get out of it when you've been bankrupting the house.

some politicians even use underground gambling to launder their polluted money
That is possible. Underground gambling or legal ones, they're the places where not just politicians launder money but also the syndicates and bad actors.

That's why it should be avoided to ban gambling in many countries, because these syndicates will probably be happy when it happens. They may have a place set up to deal with underground gambling, and as you said, there's no getting out when you are a winner, unlike the casinos that are abiding by the law.

If that happens, they will not get anything through taxes, and they will even spend more hiring investigators to find the underground gambling sites, which are probably too hidden to find.
Yeah, they're going to be the one that will run the business and even if they're going to be considered illegal. The huge profits that will come from it is going to go to them. They're going to miss a lot if they allow this to happen. And so, the other governments that are wise are coordinating with them and having a reconciliation that they need to be licensed and registered so that they are taxable and the government can also regulate them.


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July 22, 2025, 11:37:08 AM
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I get your point, some of the underground gambling are fueled by top government officials or controlled by people that has top connections with people in power. That's because without having such sides of connection, they will definitely be crack down when government finds out what is going out and it's always possible for whistleblowers to blow after being promised a huge price by the government. But because the owners are also highly connected, they are protected and profits are shared among themselves.
What's the need of such gambling practice if they government regulates it and tax the casinos, I don't think theres any need for the practice of underground gambling, this idea of yours is right, you might be right,  in my own understanding the guys that own those guys that own that kind of casino or gambling company might trying to hide from tax, you know there's nothing business owners can do, especially when they know that they are highly connected to high ranking government officials that can keep their secrets with some kind of bribe little funds involved, i concur to all you said here.

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July 22, 2025, 12:04:51 PM
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Underground gambling is not for gentlemen, they wouldn't fit into such a place because if anything happens to them they're on their own. I wouldn't go near where they gamble underground because if anything happens to me the first question that the people who knows me will ask is what I was looking for in a place like that. From the name underground gambling it sounds like underworld gathering and we know that people of the underworld are criminals. None criminals that visits underground gambling must be gamblers that are looking for extraordinary thrills, to feel danger upon risking their money.
Something has taken you in the wrong direction with underground gambling. Why should there only be criminals there? Why do you think so? This is a very strange reasoning. I have seen many such establishments where people with high social status and even those who hold high positions in the government gather. You have some kind of one-sided and limited view of this world. You should reconsider your point of view in a broader range.

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July 22, 2025, 07:36:53 PM
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You have a good vision and your intention are what a lot of rich folks out there are lacking, else, there would have been some major turnaround in the strides of NGO's in their role in ameliorating social vices within our respective societies. I hope someday you make that so much money to carry out your dream for others that are languishing in all sorts of addiction problems, mostly gambling and hard drugs.
If you look at the NGOs, they are not so transparent because most of them can use the money to launder it and the money doesn't reach the people , in fact in my country there are floods , floods , and the people who helped with clothes, with food, the police are asking them on the way to pay for it, I think the solution to this is to take the bull by the horns and do it, because governments and entities often do not do it, greed wins them over.
In any section of life there are those who will want to take advantage of a condition to their selfish interests and it's not baffling to me that there are such entities existing within the NGO's corridor. Which makes it relevant that those with the heart to genuinely help people in need of these help get to partner with already long existing NGOs that have earned a good reputation for themselves over the years of their activities.

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July 22, 2025, 08:06:13 PM
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Underground gambling is not for gentlemen, they wouldn't fit into such a place because if anything happens to them they're on their own. I wouldn't go near where they gamble underground because if anything happens to me the first question that the people who knows me will ask is what I was looking for in a place like that. From the name underground gambling it sounds like underworld gathering and we know that people of the underworld are criminals. None criminals that visits underground gambling must be gamblers that are looking for extraordinary thrills, to feel danger upon risking their money.
Something has taken you in the wrong direction with underground gambling. Why should there only be criminals there? Why do you think so? This is a very strange reasoning. I have seen many such establishments where people with high social status and even those who hold high positions in the government gather. You have some kind of one-sided and limited view of this world. You should reconsider your point of view in a broader range.
I also find this reasoning to be flawed and misleading, I mean, why would anyone even think that those who make use of underground casinos are Yes it's true that some illegal sports or gambling can go in some underground casinos, like illegal fighting and more, but that doesn't mean that's the case with all underground casinos, neither does it mean that those gamblers who choose to go there are criminals. I mean there are several reasons why normal gamblers can choose to go to an underground There are areas where gambling is highly prohibited and people who wants to gamble would have no other choice, other than to make use of these casinos and that doesn't make them bad or criminals at all..

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July 22, 2025, 09:05:28 PM
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When in a country gambling isn't allowed then in that situation underground gambling is going to take place. The gamblers can't control their urge for long time and they've to gamble no matter if it's allowed or not allowed. In many areas where gambling isn't allowed, the friends, or same minded people have created their private places where they'll gamble and have fun. While, in areas where gambling is allowed there's no need of underground gambling.
Exactly, because it is only when gambling is not allowed in a country that they would going to have such thought. However, as a country that gambling is fully allowed there is no need for underground gambling because even though it look so stressful.

Of course in such situations gamblers would definitely going to look for a way in and out just to satisfy there gambling urge because is not that easy to control a gambler from doing their wish.

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July 23, 2025, 06:35:29 AM
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I also find this reasoning to be flawed and misleading, I mean, why would anyone even think that those who make use of underground casinos are Yes it's true that some illegal sports or gambling can go in some underground casinos, like illegal fighting and more, but that doesn't mean that's the case with all underground casinos, neither does it mean that those gamblers who choose to go there are criminals. I mean there are several reasons why normal gamblers can choose to go to an underground There are areas where gambling is highly prohibited and people who wants to gamble would have no other choice, other than to make use of these casinos and that doesn't make them bad or criminals at all..
I still don't understand the reasons why gambling is banned in some regions. On the contrary, some countries should review their laws on this matter. Why? Because people will have this kind of entertainment anyway. It started many centuries ago and this "tradition" has become a norm of life. So why should we change anything and establish our own prohibitive rules and laws? We shouldn't go against human nature.

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July 23, 2025, 06:58:03 AM
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The gamble that are played in such a place are gamble's that are illegal meaning the government is not in support of those kind of gamble and it could be because of the things the gambling may make you do or how bad it is, in my country gambling is lawful meaning such a thing is not there, the only time you will see something like that is when criminals are looking for a place they can come without people seeing them they look for a place like this to gamble is not as if the kind of gambling they are doing is unlawful is because they are criminals and they want a hidden place to enjoy there self's and have fun, people build a hiding place like that for gambling in other for criminals to come without fear of people seeing them and they pay huge amount of money just to have fun, so the police always come for the criminals and not for everyone in that place, however it is always advisable to stay alway from places like this because this criminal's comes with gun to that gambling place and sometimes they will want to resist arrest when the police comes there and before you know they will start shooting, someone has dead like that before so avoid such a place if you are not a criminal.

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July 23, 2025, 09:53:42 AM
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You have a good vision and your intention are what a lot of rich folks out there are lacking, else, there would have been some major turnaround in the strides of NGO's in their role in ameliorating social vices within our respective societies. I hope someday you make that so much money to carry out your dream for others that are languishing in all sorts of addiction problems, mostly gambling and hard drugs.
If you look at the NGOs, they are not so transparent because most of them can use the money to launder it and the money doesn't reach the people , in fact in my country there are floods , floods , and the people who helped with clothes, with food, the police are asking them on the way to pay for it, I think the solution to this is to take the bull by the horns and do it, because governments and entities often do not do it, greed wins them over.
In any section of life there are those who will want to take advantage of a condition to their selfish interests and it's not baffling to me that there are such entities existing within the NGO's corridor. Which makes it relevant that those with the heart to genuinely help people in need of these help get to partner with already long existing NGOs that have earned a good reputation for themselves over the years of their activities.

In that side, there are trusted NGO's where you can partner if you are really aiming to help, like you said they manage to established thier good reputations and long lasting services to keep their partners and let them assist with good deeds that they wanted to provide, though same with what the pot above you there are NGO's which created to hide the true intentions and we can't deny the fact that they can be use as platform to launder money.

Some of those can be related to those who operates underground gambling they can hide and show some charity deeds but the main intention is to keep earning money out from the sight of the authorities.

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July 23, 2025, 10:14:10 AM
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In that side, there are trusted NGO's where you can partner if you are really aiming to help, like you said they manage to established thier good reputations and long lasting services to keep their partners and let them assist with good deeds that they wanted to provide, though same with what the pot above you there are NGO's which created to hide the true intentions and we can't deny the fact that they can be use as platform to launder money.

Some of those can be related to those who operates underground gambling they can hide and show some charity deeds but the main intention is to keep earning money out from the sight of the authorities.

Trustworthiness can be lost along the way. I don't question the work of some NGOs, but we're all in the same boat, and it's easy to fall into error, accepting shady transactions to the detriment of users.
Where money flows, corruption almost always comes into play. In gambling, where flows are very high, shady individuals find their way in.

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July 23, 2025, 01:03:20 PM
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In the country where I now live there is no need for underground casinos, because all casinos are legalized. The fact is that there is a large country nearby where all casinos are prohibited.
And, of course, nothing prevents citizens of this big country from turning on VPN and going to online casinos, but I know that many people do not recognize online casinos, but only love physical casinos for the atmosphere of these establishments and the fact that you can communicate with people there.
But at the same time, I know quite well that small casinos in small towns are quite different from large casinos in the capital.

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July 23, 2025, 01:49:39 PM
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I still don't understand the reasons why gambling is banned in some regions. On the contrary, some countries should review their laws on this matter. Why? Because people will have this kind of entertainment anyway. It started many centuries ago and this "tradition" has become a norm of life. So why should we change anything and establish our own prohibitive rules and laws? We shouldn't go against human nature.
Inasmuch as there's actually sense in what you're saying, the truth still remains that every government has the right to decide on what's best for them and their people, as well as to decide what is to be banned and allowed within their jurisdiction. There are several reasons why some people would feel as though banning gambling within their region would be the best option. For those who have accepted the common misconceptions of gambling, which is that gambling can automatically reshape their financial status (making them reach) gambling becomes problematic to them and in this case, it may not only affect them alone but also the society at large in one way or the other. It could be that there's a widespread of this scenario, which may have led the government of that region to believe the best option would be to place a permban on gambling, and if you really get to consider the situation and weigh the options, you wouldn't really have to blame them that much.

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July 23, 2025, 05:31:07 PM
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In that side, there are trusted NGO's where you can partner if you are really aiming to help, like you said they manage to established thier good reputations and long lasting services to keep their partners and let them assist with good deeds that they wanted to provide, though same with what the pot above you there are NGO's which created to hide the true intentions and we can't deny the fact that they can be use as platform to launder money.

Some of those can be related to those who operates underground gambling they can hide and show some charity deeds but the main intention is to keep earning money out from the sight of the authorities.

Trustworthiness can be lost along the way. I don't question the work of some NGOs, but we're all in the same boat, and it's easy to fall into error, accepting shady transactions to the detriment of users.
Where money flows, corruption almost always comes into play. In gambling, where flows are very high, shady individuals find their way in.

I agree with that. If it ain't corruption, government employees or their bosses are trying to invest in those things where money flows either legally or illegally.

I still believe that underground gambling is happening. Games that could not be played in public, like dog fights or other types of gambling that cannot be shown outside. These kinds of gambling activities are where rich people mostly come because they need more of the excitement that they cannot get with simple gambling in UFC or boxing. They may want live action with blood all over the place, and sometimes those with money can get the entertainment they want from them.

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July 23, 2025, 05:53:42 PM
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And also when I was growing up watching movies locally, there will always this plot twist that there is a illegal gambling den and it will be raided by the hero of the movie and then those running it says it is being protected by high officials of the government.

And so have you heard of it like in your country?

I also dig one story about it here:

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Eugene Trincher ran a high-stakes illegal poker game in New York City from 2010 through April 2013. At these games, the pots frequently reached tens of thousands of dollars or more. The operators of these poker games, including Eugene Trincher, collected percentages of the pots known as "rakes." Each of the poker games employed at least five or more people to assist with the operation of the poker games, payments of debts, and collection of debts.

Or have you played in this kind of underground gambling den before?

Underground gambling only tends to exist in countries where it is illegal or heavily regulated. Keeping in mind that it's usually illegal, you're only going to get introduced via friends who trust you and generally you'll have to put up a fair amount of money to enter. Besides that, these places will be very discreet and have security vetting you before you're able to get anywhere near the action. The more upscale places will be very professionally organised and have the higher rollers in there, but are invite only. People just love betting and will find a way to do it, the only difficult bit is making sure nobody leaks any information about the operation - this usually happens when someone is bargaining for a deal on some other crime they might have committed.

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July 24, 2025, 09:49:33 AM
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In that side, there are trusted NGO's where you can partner if you are really aiming to help, like you said they manage to established thier good reputations and long lasting services to keep their partners and let them assist with good deeds that they wanted to provide, though same with what the pot above you there are NGO's which created to hide the true intentions and we can't deny the fact that they can be use as platform to launder money.

Some of those can be related to those who operates underground gambling they can hide and show some charity deeds but the main intention is to keep earning money out from the sight of the authorities.

Trustworthiness can be lost along the way. I don't question the work of some NGOs, but we're all in the same boat, and it's easy to fall into error, accepting shady transactions to the detriment of users.
Where money flows, corruption almost always comes into play. In gambling, where flows are very high, shady individuals find their way in.

I agree with that. If it ain't corruption, government employees or their bosses are trying to invest in those things where money flows either legally or illegally.

I still believe that underground gambling is happening. Games that could not be played in public, like dog fights or other types of gambling that cannot be shown outside. These kinds of gambling activities are where rich people mostly come because they need more of the excitement that they cannot get with simple gambling in UFC or boxing. They may want live action with blood all over the place, and sometimes those with money can get the entertainment they want from them.

Just like how gladiators fought hahaha, kidding aside but there are rich people who loves seeing live actions, either in terms of pets/animals or even those underground fight that they can see happening, they can spend money to bet on those kinds of fights and enjoyed the excitement that they've earned.

Underground gambling are everywhere as there are facilatators who can deal with connections and link those rich and those average to lower section to meet in between and gamble their money.

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