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May 24, 2025, 11:23:09 AM
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Never. I guess the most illegal way that I gambled was just outside. I mean on the street where we play "kara krus", heads or tails with three similar coins that must all land the same, all three heads or tails. I remember a time when we were running because the police car suddenly popped out in front of us. They didn't use their siren light, which is why we didn't notice they were there. The mistake was that the lookout had gone to buy some cigarette,s and that's the reason it got near us.
That's the deepest gambling I have been, but I never thought of going deeper than that. It's too scary.

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May 24, 2025, 11:39:03 AM
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Even if that existed, I don't think that news will become publicly because those underground casino will have a corrupt officials that protect that place. But I don't hear about that news here before but I think underground casino existed and only for those who know that place. Public will not know much about that place and will not think if that place is exist. That will be a secret for some people who often come to that place and gambling with others.

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May 24, 2025, 11:43:34 AM
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When in a country gambling isn't allowed then in that situation underground gambling is going to take place. The gamblers can't control their urge for long time and they've to gamble no matter if it's allowed or not allowed. In many areas where gambling isn't allowed, the friends, or same minded people have created their private places where they'll gamble and have fun. While, in areas where gambling is allowed there's no need of underground gambling.

These underground gambling platforms become popular here gambling is prohibited.  In the Northern part of my country where gambling is not accepted because of religious beliefs such platforms exist in the secret. I am not interested in playing on these platforms because they are mostly controlled by gangs. Some of these gang members have connections with law enforcement agencies who they give commissions. Sometimes there are raids by police if they were not given their cut or if a new top officer resumes in that location. Disagreements in those gambling centers sometimes lead to fights since it is an illegal operation. It will be better to use crypto casinos secretly than to risk your security gambling in these underground platforms.  

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May 24, 2025, 11:49:36 AM
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The underground gambling can mostly be effective in a country that forbids gambling, if it's a country like mine where gambling is legalized, once you acquire your license of operation, you can carry on with your business. Although, it's only the people that have failed to get a license that will hide, so they don't get detected.

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May 24, 2025, 01:01:12 PM
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I saw this thread Gambling in Pop Culture and I remember one movie in particular, starring John Malcovich and Matt Damon. And it makes me wonder about those underground gambling rings. And also when I was growing up watching movies locally, there will always this plot twist that there is a illegal gambling den and it will be raided by the hero of the movie and then those running it says it is being protected by high officials of the government.

And so have you heard of it like in your country?

I also dig one story about it here:

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Eugene Trincher ran a high-stakes illegal poker game in New York City from 2010 through April 2013. At these games, the pots frequently reached tens of thousands of dollars or more. The operators of these poker games, including Eugene Trincher, collected percentages of the pots known as "rakes." Each of the poker games employed at least five or more people to assist with the operation of the poker games, payments of debts, and collection of debts.

https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/newyork/press-releases/2013/defendants-plead-guilty-in-manhattan-federal-court-to-participating-in-racketeering-conspiracy-with-russian-american-organized-crime-enterprise-operating-international-sportsbook-and-to-participating-in-a-gambling-ring

Or have you played in this kind of underground gambling den before?

This type of gambling is mostly common in countries where gambling is prohibited and they mostly gamble on games that seems unethical. Few months ago I read a story about how kids were trafficked and sold out to people that use them as kick boxers. People watch these kids fight each other and even place bets on them, if that was legal they wouldn't be hiding. Underground gambling is a criminal act.

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May 24, 2025, 01:21:57 PM
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And so have you heard of it like in your country?
I think such a thing exists in every country, it is just different in how big they are. I mean if playing for money is illegal outside of established places, then even small gatherings of friends can be considered underground gambling rings. Of course big cities are going to have larger games with a lot more money.

Or have you played in this kind of underground gambling den before?
No, because it is very risk. On one side you don't know if some of the people there are dangerous, on the other you can get in trouble with the police if it is not legal where you are doing this.
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May 24, 2025, 01:51:33 PM
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Underground gambling could be popular in the past when there was too much skepticism about it, groups of gamblers with like minds will converge and gamble in secret. But I believe that era is fast fading out especially in countries like mine where gambling is legal, why gamble illegally when you can do it legally and stay out of trouble. I used to watch a lot of underground fighting ring movies in the past, I wonder if such things still exist in this age? I sometimes see hoodlums in corners gambling and I don't think that any right thinking gambler will dare to join them because they are mostly criminals.











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Or have you played in this kind of underground gambling den before?
There is an underground business for everyone shady thing. And the enablers of these are the corrupt security officers and government officials. They are fully aware that something like this exists but they turn the other way for small percentage. These underground gambling are dangerous places where you find the worst of humans. I haven't played there and I will never do so.

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Or have you played in this kind of underground gambling den before?
Not all physical casinos in my area are below, only in part like in Hai Lai Ancol and in Plot Sembilan, the casino is on the ground floor of the Sarinah building, but I have never gambled there.

In my country the casino is mostly illegal, but the law enforcement is deaf with it, even though it remains careful during the raid, so the casino in my country is mostly in buildings like hotels and so on, maybe yes As you told gambling underground something fun adventure, maybe I will try if there is someday like the film John Malcovich.

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I haven't played in a gambling den before but I know it exists. I wouldn't love to go to any undeground den to gamble since gambling is legal in my country and I prefer playing online than offline since it gives me the comfort and entertainment I desire. Such places are for highly business men who are shady and don't want people to know.

If such place exist in my country, it will be a black spot for the government, only if they're also in support of the business since government cares more about getting money and not the consequences of gambling in such place.

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The underground gambling can mostly be effective in a country that forbids gambling, if it's a country like mine where gambling is legalized, once you acquire your license of operation, you can carry on with your business. Although, it's only the people that have failed to get a license that will hide, so they don't get detected.

Most of this underground gambling usually operates without license that’s why they are doing it privately to hide. It’s not about country forbid gambling or not rather if they only allow gambling on regulated casino.

Underground gambling exist because shady operators doesn’t want to acquire license and pay taxes with their operations.

Gambling is not totally forbidden in my country but still there’s some illegal operators on backyard gambling because acquiring license is expensive for a small gambling operation.

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I have never played in an underground casino, but I have heard many stories in my neighborhood that there are some in establishments such as bakeries and clothing stores, disguised by false walls. I do not know if this is true, but I do not doubt that they do exist. Since physical casinos were banned here, many underground casinos have been discovered and closed.

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Such places are called clandestine casinos are are present mainly in countries where gambling isn't legal. However, they aren't exactly like the movies display them. Clandestine casinos are attended by common citizens, especially elders, who just want to get out of boredom. These houses are usually friendly to the customers, while not allowing underage gamblers inside (probably that is the deal with authorities in order to have permission to operate).

Now due to the online gambling phenomenon, the tendency is that clandestine betting shops lose popularity, while many of them can even disappear from the market.

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Actually I have  heard things like that both from movies and real life. In my country there have been rumors of illegal gambling sites getting busted and there’s always talk about some type of protection from higherups which makes it much more murky. I haven’t played in one personally but I know folks who’ve gotten engaged and it’s risky business. It’s kind of crazy how these covert setups genuinely exist just like in the movies.
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May 24, 2025, 04:27:03 PM
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I haven't really seen things like this in my country because gambling is legal here...The idea I have about underground gambling is that they are been ran by crime bosses and some people in that particular country that are powerful but yet criminals..I don't think that people go there to gamble on games slots, cards and the normal casino games, doing such a thing underground means they engage in unethical things

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May 24, 2025, 04:31:47 PM
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I have not heard of any such underground gambling or raiding of casinos to get hold of gamblers. Gambling is very legal in my country. The only action that could warrant such a raid and mass arrest is if the authorities have gotten a clue that the casino is involved in criminal activities and is disguised as a gambling company, or if some criminals are patronizing a particular casino and disguising themselves as gamblers. However, gambling is highly regulated in my country, so most of these measures are put in place to reduce the rate of criminal activities in casinos.

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May 24, 2025, 04:34:54 PM
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I have never played in an underground casino before, i don't see any reason to, gambling is legal in my country and i only play in licensed gambling operators. However, there are a lot of unlicensed gambling operators that collect rake and commission from players, these services will be closed down by the government if they are discovered, though the large ones are run by criminal groups and it makes it harder to detect them.

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May 24, 2025, 04:35:17 PM
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Or have you played in this kind of underground gambling den before?

No I haven't but there are a lot of underground gambling hub in many cities of our country and they only cater to VIP's and big businessmen, we're not into these two categories so we can't play here you need to pass to get in and they only accept big bettor.
The only underground gambling I play on are the guerilla type gambling in our neighborhood they are done on our neighborhood and you can only get in if you part of the neighborhood, this is to protect the place from getting raided by the authorities.


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