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Author Topic: YES, you can get a REFUND from BFL  (Read 45589 times)
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April 19, 2014, 04:33:40 AM
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*mumbles something about chickens and roosts*
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monarchs are held back for their own use, they will be shipping once their usefulness is exhausted by BFL Smiley

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April 19, 2014, 05:19:43 AM
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monarchs are held back for their own use, they will be shipping once their usefulness is exhausted by BFL

If you can prove that there is a law firm that wants that evidence.

Contact them here: http://www.woodlaw.com/cases/butterfly-labs-and-bf-labs-inc-bitcoin-miners

I think the cost of production vs. the mining that they are capable of has already crossed the line. They can't even make BFL coins vs fabrication and electricity etc so I don't know what they are planning to do with these underperforming units. Time to "revamp" the design and get more pre-orders I think. Use a mining calculator and do the numbers.

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April 19, 2014, 05:22:01 AM
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monarchs are held back for their own use, they will be shipping once their usefulness is exhausted by BFL

If you can prove that there is a law firm that wants that evidence.

Contact them here: http://www.woodlaw.com/cases/butterfly-labs-and-bf-labs-inc-bitcoin-miners

Discovery could prove this.

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April 19, 2014, 05:23:17 AM
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monarchs are held back for their own use, they will be shipping once their usefulness is exhausted by BFL

If you can prove that there is a law firm that wants that evidence.

Contact them here: http://www.woodlaw.com/cases/butterfly-labs-and-bf-labs-inc-bitcoin-miners

Discovery could prove this.

Yes... I can't wait for that. I am betting there is plenty available in BFL records to sink them permanently. I wish someone at BFL would roll now to save their own asses and push the end game faster.


"It's not pining it's passed on! This parrot is no more! It has ceased to be! It's expired and gone to meet its maker! This, is a late parrot! It's a stiff! Bereft of life, it rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed it to the perch it would be pushin' up the daisies! It's rung down the curtain and joined the choir invisible! "THIS IS AN EX PARROT!"



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November 22, 2014, 04:08:34 PM
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bump
You really need more training...


And a Public Service Announcement!
If you have ordered from BFL and have not yet received your product, you are entitled to a refund whenever you request one (per FTC rules).
First ask Butterfly Labs for one, they will probably say no but you might get lucky.
If you ordered via PayPal you can file a complaint with them even if you are outside the 45 day window. One customer has already gotten a refund from PayPal that was outside the 45 days.
If you ordered via BTC or Bank wire, you can fill out a complaint with the FTC and they will advocate for you with BFL to get your refund. You can also contact the office of the Kansas Attorney General and inform them that you have had your money taken with no product delivered for months, just more promises.

There are also several threads on how to get a refund from BFL, here are two:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=266945.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=272585.0
 

Remember when BCP helped people get refunds?

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November 22, 2014, 04:15:54 PM
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Thx to share this, whit this infromation people can know the steps to get a refund inf the buy goes wrong.

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November 22, 2014, 09:05:51 PM
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Well if only I would have paid Minersource with paypal then I might get back that refund Minersource promised to me which never arrived.

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November 22, 2014, 11:32:47 PM
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The judge issued a default judgment in favor of the plaintiffs in at least one non-delivery case.  (A default judgment occurs when the accused does not bother to respond or show up in court.)  BFL now wants that default judgment overturned.  My opinion:  When they found out that the legal system does work, even if not quickly, arrogance became fear.

Default judgments are fairly routinely overturned when they result from a mere mistake or inadvertence.  The doctrine is called excusable neglect and generally applies with trivial missed deadlines and actually having a valid defense.  BFL may be SOL on the latter part, though courts usually would prefer to decide cases on the merits as opposed to procedural defaults.

(Now, when a default is due to willful bad conduct, it's a different matter.  Not sure if that applies here.)
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