Please remove the Digital Goods section

[chmod755]

Most offers in Digital Goods are related to cracked user accounts and illegally obtained software keys.

Maybe 10% of all posts in Digital Goods are related to legitimate offers so it's not worth keeping this section.

[dogie]

Most offers in Digital Goods are related to cracked user accounts and illegally obtained software keys.

Maybe 10% of all posts in Digital Goods are related to legitimate offers so it's not worth keeping this section.

Isn't the immediate solution to clean up the section and then reevaluate? Especially if closing the section will simply move the toxicity to another subforum.

[chmod755]

Isn't the immediate solution to clean up the section and then reevaluate?

Maybe, but there's so much to be removed - I just don't think they're going to do that.

Especially if closing the section will simply move the toxicity to another subforum.

It should be considered spam in other subforums.

[dogie]

Isn't the immediate solution to clean up the section and then reevaluate?

Maybe, but there's so much to be removed - I just don't think they're going to do that.

Especially if closing the section will simply move the toxicity to another subforum.

It should be considered spam in other subforums.

If we combine both your statements, then all that would happen is the "spam" is going to move to other subforums, where its equally not going to be dealt with. That doesn't help us.

[chmod755]

If we combine both your statements, then all that would happen is the "spam" is going to move to other subforums, where its equally not going to be dealt with. That doesn't help us.

Unless they are getting banned - that should be easier than cleaning up the posts.

[Jeremycoin]

Why not just divide the Digital Goods section --> Cracked Goods|Legitmate Goods
Maybe it will helpful

[Omikifuse]

if the digital goods forum is closed, then the digital goods things will be posted in the goods sections

and it won't be spam

[EcuaMobi]

if the digital goods forum is closed, then the digital goods things will be posted in the goods sections

and it won't be spam

I'm pretty sure OP suggests to forbid publishing digital goods, not just removing the board and moving all the threads somewhere else. And I'm also pretty sure that won't happen.

Why not just divide the Digital Goods section --> Cracked Goods|Legitmate Goods
Maybe it will helpful

Probably very few people would acknowledge their goods are not "legitimate". However adding sub-categories in that board would be a good idea. Further analysis would be required but probably some of these ones make sense: Domains, Accounts, Gift and virtual cards, Software, others.

[Vod]

Most offers in Digital Goods are related to cracked user accounts and illegally obtained software keys.

IMO, a good portion of the Digital Goods forum supports theft as long as it benefits bitcoin.  I got ripped a new one when I pointed out obvious theft.   

[redsn0w]

If I can say my opinion, I don't think it's necessary to remove digital goods section. In that child board there are a lot of trusted sellers, if you find something of illegal then report it to a triated member in the default trust list (like tomatocage, vod, quickseller...) and they can warn the other users with a simple negative trust (left) to that user.

[shorena]

Most offers in Digital Goods are related to cracked user accounts and illegally obtained software keys.

Maybe 10% of all posts in Digital Goods are related to legitimate offers so it's not worth keeping this section.

My perseption of the section is different. Many sell their domains, webpages, scripts for X there. Some sell their bitcointalk accounts and of those some might have been stolen, but those cases typcially end up in meta anyway. Whether or not the software in question was obtained illegally would be hard to proof. A 80% discount should certainly make you suspicious.

[bite my coins]

should try moderate the section rather than closing it completely

[dznuts85]

Most offers in Digital Goods are related to cracked user accounts and illegally obtained software keys.

Maybe 10% of all posts in Digital Goods are related to legitimate offers so it's not worth keeping this section.

i dont agree in removing the Digital Goods section, it will only cause a topic posted in the wrong place coz you cant avoid people selling their goods. maybe a solution of moderating the thread or banning people selling stolen keys/accounts will be better if it is possible

[TheButterZone]

My problem is that I'm having to report wayyy too many posts every day for digital goods put in goods.

[erikalui]

Because of those scammers, why should I suffer? I also list my gift cards in that section and sell legitimate goods so I would be suffering because of those members which is not right. Those scammers should be stopped but well that section isn't moderated in respect of who sells scammed products and who doesn't. the buyers happily buy hacked/fraudulent goods and they are to be blamed as well.

[shogdite]

Seems a bit drastic removing the digital section completely, if you suspect there are threads selling dodgy software keys just report them to the mods so that they can be removed. The hard part is proving that they are not legit...

[ranochigo]

There are plenty of people offering legitmate goods such as legitimate software keys with proof of authenticity, bitcointalk accounts and game accounts. If you were to remove the section, it would be unfair for people who sell legitimate things. You could give a negative trust to warn people but you can't ask a mod to remove it unless you have proofs.

[umairsaleem]

Digital Good section is a important way to prove existence meaning of Bitcoin: to be a currency.

[Vhawk23]

Digital Good section is a important way to prove existence meaning of Bitcoin: to be a currency.

I agree with you, but if it's cracked accounts then it's just like a scam things happen there, but even they do, it doesn't mean that the digital goods section needs to be closed, and anyway some of them still selling a legit keys / accounts...
The key is just careful at trading with someone...
And use escrow

[chmod755]

i dont agree in removing the Digital Goods section, it will only cause a topic posted in the wrong place coz you cant avoid people selling their goods. maybe a solution of moderating the thread or banning people selling stolen keys/accounts will be better if it is possible

You can crack down on them and ban them.

Do you guys want to be surrounded by people who might crack your accounts and sell them?