Miracles of Quran

[BADecker]

The Quran (Koran, the book of Islam) contains scientific knowledge that could not have been known 1400 years ago. It ranges from basic arithmetics to the most advanced topics in in all the Field of this world. You are invited to go through those miracles. Every Day I will post One miracle of Quran.

Lots Of things That Were Discovered Now, and Few year Back, Was Everything Written In the the Quran 1400 year Ago. It is Only the Thing You should Look into the things Why it is created and what is its purpose.

The Qur'an is the principle source of every Muslim's faith and practice. It deals with all subjects that concern us as human beings, including wisdom, doctrine, worship and law; but its basic theme is the relationship between God and His creatures. At the same time, the Qur'an provides guidelines for a just society, proper human conduct and equitable economic principles.

Nobody knows everything. There is new knowledge being found all the time. What is more interesting is that much of this new knowledge is really very, very old knowledge.

Graham Hancock and several others are showing that people from around 12,500 years ago and before, had more knowledge than any of us have today. General scientific dating agrees with Hancock's time evaluations. While I don't agree with the ages, the things that Graham Hancock has found are very interesting. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcPgIphDWGY and others.

The point? The Arabs and other peoples of 2,000 years ago (or 1,400 years ago) didn't invent much of anything. They might have re-invented some of it. They might have received their knowledge from old book sources that are no longer available. But they were not the first inventors by thousands of years.

While the inventions of the Arabs might have made things easier for many peoples, the peoples of India and China have made many discoveries and inventions. In all cases, it is not the inventions and discoveries that make the people strong. Look at the poverty in much of the Arab world, and certainly in India, and in much of China, as well.

Without the infusion of European and American petrodollars, the whole of Arabia would be in poverty. China and India are starting to pull out of poverty because of American ingenuity.

What is the ONE major thing that America and Europe - especially Western Europe - have that nobody else in the world really has? It is the thing that, when the other nations gain it, they start to pull out of their poverty. It is also the thing that will plunge America into poverty if they lose it.

now the argument is about population and countries. the post was initially about miracles of the Quraan. kindly do not post off topic, thank you

Having problems seeing that the miracles of the Quran are not miracles of the Quran? That's the largest point of everything in the miracles-or-the-Quran idea. One of the biggest miracles of Islamites who have studied is that they don't have the understanding to see that the Quran doesn't really provide any miracles.

Other things didn't work. so now the Islamites are focusing on the "miracles" idea. Once people find out that the so-call miracles of the Quran have been around forever without the Quran, they will start to see what a fraud Islam really is.

[holdembot]

The quran is as accurate as the bible is as accurate as the torah.

In unix OS terms they are all based on the linux kernel except all 3 took their own direction but at the end they all run on the same engine.

It is fascinating to me how anyone could dedicate themself to any of these religions when you could simply open all 3 of them if you are interested in the old testament.

Please provide me the evidence that the quran is better than the bible or torah. Did the real creator need the torah and bible as the first and second revision before hitting the absolute proof being called the quran?

The only facts around abrahamic religions is that they are all the same thing with different levels of abuse and violence.

i will reply this without any quote and any Quranic sentences.

just pure logic.

when you were in primary did they give you the book you would use in university?

or did they spoon feed you with little by little information till you are able to learn the final book?

this definitly should answer your question

and then you follow up with this gem ?

i thought trolling was not allowed on the forum?

Nothing you stated is pure logic. If that is were case then your imaginary upgrade of information point you tried to make simply means the world yet again upgraded from the Quran with the introduction of scientology ? Uh oh, did I just destroy your logic-time-space-continuem.

[Neg]

i thought trolling was not allowed on the forum?

Then why are you doing the trolling?   Just because people mock your beliefs or have opposing ones does not make them trolls or mean you're being trolled. I hate that cop out argument. I think debates on religions are also pointless though because both sides or always steadfast in their beliefs but only one has been brainwashed and is unwilling to listen to arguments or ever change their mind.

[pedrog]

The Sound of Muslims https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POJdu4HV-Ng

A fun animated video with a lot of the outrageous stuff that can be found in the Quran.

[cryptodevil]

maybe i should not, right??

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/03/31/japan.disaster.budget/t1larg.building.afp.gi.jpg
https://arche-nova.org/sites/default/files/styles/galleryformatter_full/public/images/galerien/Sri%20Lanka%20I%20-%202.JPG?itok=BU6YXhme
http://gallery.usgs.gov/images/03_30_2010/q74Xo00Nni_03_30_2010/large/IMG_6526.jpg
https://latimesphoto.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/la-0322-pin04.jpg
http://ak.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/1750748/preview/stock-footage-damage-to-building-after-japan-tsunami.jpg

Actually you should, explain what images of various concrete buildings in different places and from different tsunamis actually has to do with you believing you have successfully delivered a rebuttal of the point I made.

[Lethn]

If you've looked around you should realise that Christians haven't had any success with arguing with us constantly about this kind of thing and niether will Muslims, I suspect this will devolve into another 200 page thread before you finally go round the bend and resort to circular pre-programmed logic like all religious people do when directly confronted about their beliefs.

[waterpile]

i thought trolling was not allowed on the forum?

Then why are you doing the trolling?   Just because people mock your beliefs or have opposing ones does not make them trolls or mean you're being trolled. I hate that cop out argument. I think debates on religions are also pointless though because both sides or always steadfast in their beliefs but only one has been brainwashed and is unwilling to listen to arguments or ever change their mind.

I agree, no sense in debating about religions. It will be just an unending words about who has the greater religion bla bla bla..

[holdembot]

i thought trolling was not allowed on the forum?

Then why are you doing the trolling?   Just because people mock your beliefs or have opposing ones does not make them trolls or mean you're being trolled. I hate that cop out argument. I think debates on religions are also pointless though because both sides or always steadfast in their beliefs but only one has been brainwashed and is unwilling to listen to arguments or ever change their mind.

I agree, no sense in debating about religions. It will be just an unending words about who has the greater religion bla bla bla..

True, a debate in essence means both sides could have an overwhelming strong point in order to win the debate.

Religions simply do not have a factual end point thus can not be debated.

[Netpyder]

then kindly concentrate the debate on the topic rather than threading off topic, it will be more direct to point out form the book what you dont believe in the miracles rather than trolling off subject.. that way the post wont go over 200 pages and i wont bend, turn or whatever you said

[holdembot]

then kindly concentrate the debate on the topic rather than threading off topic, it will be more direct to point out form the book what you dont believe in the miracles rather than trolling off subject.. that way the post wont go over 200 pages and i wont bend, turn or whatever you said

Everything I stated is on-topic.

We are all still waiting for factual proof of miracles.

You can start off by defining the scientific meaning of the word miracle backed up by factual evidence and not just hearsay or thumbsucking.

[BADecker]

The Sound of Muslims https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POJdu4HV-Ng

A fun animated video with a lot of the outrageous stuff that can be found in the Quran.

You absolutely outdid yourself showing us this video, pedrog. There are a bunch of videos around it that are just as "funny."

[criptix]

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Quote from: Netpyder on Today at 12:34:04 PM
i thought trolling was not allowed on the forum?

my last post was not a troll, it was your argument as two images  Smiley
Posted on: Today at 12:35:04 PM Posted by: cryptodevil

i wonder how this is an argument? also it is a repeated photo that have already been posted. am i not right on this one buddy?

i dont think you understood it, but let me try again:



kudos to the meme gen website  

[irfan_pak10]

I go through all the above post and Concluded that, People are just Trolling here. They Dont want to argue they are just spamming here. What they are They Just DON'T WANT TO understand Other point of view. Taking only one word from the Whole post and Throwing tons of their Openion on other.

[alani123]

I go through all the above post and Concluded that, People are just Trolling here. They Dont want to argue they are just spamming here. What they are They Just DON'T WANT TO understand Other point of view. Taking only one word from the Whole post and Throwing tons of their Openion on other.

On the other hand, you got some supporters too! That's how bitcointalk is. Similarly to all online forums there are going to be trolls.

[BADecker]

I go through all the above post and Concluded that, People are just Trolling here. They Dont want to argue they are just spamming here. What they are They Just DON'T WANT TO understand Other point of view. Taking only one word from the Whole post and Throwing tons of their Openion on other.

On the other hand, you got some supporters too! That's how bitcointalk is. Similarly to all online forums there are going to be trolls.

That video from pedrog, and the other videos around it in Youtube, show that the Quran is full of just as much or more BS as it might have actual knowledge. Go look, but if you don't, I understand. It's hard to look at the flaws in your pet religion. Here's the link again - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POJdu4HV-Ng.

[irfan_pak10]

I go through all the above post and Concluded that, People are just Trolling here. They Dont want to argue they are just spamming here. What they are They Just DON'T WANT TO understand Other point of view. Taking only one word from the Whole post and Throwing tons of their Openion on other.

On the other hand, you got some supporters too! That's how bitcointalk is. Similarly to all online forums there are going to be trolls.

That video from pedrog, and the other videos around it in Youtube, show that the Quran is full of just as much or more BS as it might have actual knowledge. Go look, but if you don't, I understand. It's hard to look at the flaws in your pet religion. Here's the link again - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POJdu4HV-Ng.

Yeah These things are Written in the Quran and I believe These are 100% correct without any doubt. So what is your Point? in this video? what you want say you never mentioned in the ^ post? You say These are Flaws why these Are Flaw you never mentioned? If you can Post here any flaw with Solid Reason then I will also Answer your Doubts.

[alani123]

I go through all the above post and Concluded that, People are just Trolling here. They Dont want to argue they are just spamming here. What they are They Just DON'T WANT TO understand Other point of view. Taking only one word from the Whole post and Throwing tons of their Openion on other.

On the other hand, you got some supporters too! That's how bitcointalk is. Similarly to all online forums there are going to be trolls.

That video from pedrog, and the other videos around it in Youtube, show that the Quran is full of just as much or more BS as it might have actual knowledge. Go look, but if you don't, I understand. It's hard to look at the flaws in your pet religion. Here's the link again - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POJdu4HV-Ng.

I'm not even a Muslim, but I hate when people hijack threads like that. It's fine if you don't agree with one's beliefs. A joke or two are ok but posting such unrelated toxic replies is the kind of trolling that makes bitcoin communities toxic.

[Muhammed Zakir]

Thanks for posting. Much appreciated, friend!

I'm not even a Muslim, but I hate when people hijack threads like that. It's fine if you don't agree with one's beliefs. A joke or two are ok but posting such unrelated toxic replies is the kind of trolling that makes bitcoin communities toxic.

Thank you. BADecker is doing this for a long time. I have okay with his opinions as it is freedom of speech but not backing up the claimings and also posting a smiley in every post which is weird amd it certainly has a "twisting" effect IMHO.

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[Netpyder]

to be honest with you zakir i dont think badecker has any point at all.
like on the other post he could not prove that muslim or islam from facts that (maybe only he has) the Quraan and the Hadiths tells muslims to BE VIOLENT.

i have shown to him dozens of websites supporting my claims and backing my posts with quotes, facts and science. he only replies with that one post he has from a website that obviously is nurturing his mind in a bad way because of twisted morcels of quotes rather than the full quote itself in its original way.

as far as badecker is concerned he is more of a troll than someone with a brain. and he dares to say people in gunea or africa or amazon people are dumb. try live the way they do then come back to say they have no intelligence.

the human as itself is the most intelligent beings on this planet, they have the ability to think and have their free will. badecker is just poisoning the threads with his obvious islamophobic minded being that he is.

he cannot prove anything nor has he posted anything wise on both thread.

he cherrypick a few words and twist it to make it a comment. i would rather think the guy is trying to get post counts rather than factual posts 

[Spendulus]

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Yeah These things are Written in the Quran and I believe These are 100% correct without any doubt. So what is your Point? in this video? what you want say you never mentioned in the ^ post? You say These are Flaws why these Are Flaw you never mentioned? If you can Post here any flaw with Solid Reason then I will also Answer your Doubts.

Sure, let's hear about that Moon splitting apart.