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You can vent from ground to window air would be sucked across the building to another window with a fitted tube as the solar tower.

Without having to penetrate walls using existing windows.


Black culvert pipe could be your vertical tower and that is vented from the window on the southern side of the building with that makeshift venting you made.



Install a ground pipe on the north side and use your makeshift tubes to vent through your window.

No fans required if you can get a good seal on the windows you will draw heat continually out of the building day and night.


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that is a nice simple cooling system.  It figures that the idea comes from  a Desert hot  dry country.

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that is a nice simple cooling system.  It figures that the idea comes from  a Desert hot  dry country.

I wonder if there are NEW Mexican Indian designs that could also work.

That is my problem partially I don't have the "dry heat" with no humidity.

I do have humidity so it makes evaporation and some options not near as effective.
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I do have humidity so it makes evaporation and some options not near as effective.

I'm stuck with humidity as well.  I'm going to give one of these a try:

https://www.globalindustrial.com/p/hvac/fans/blower/portable-ventilation-fan-8-inch-with-16-feet-flexible-ducting

Got my miners in crawlspace under the house that you can walk in for the most part.  It has a number of foundation vents and I plan to vent the flexible duct out of one of the foundation vents, which will hopefully draw in an adequate amount of air from the rest of the foundation vents.  I might try to build a shroud to capture the miner exhaust into the blower.
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I do have humidity so it makes evaporation and some options not near as effective.

I'm stuck with humidity as well.  I'm going to give one of these a try:

https://www.globalindustrial.com/p/hvac/fans/blower/portable-ventilation-fan-8-inch-with-16-feet-flexible-ducting

Got my miners in crawlspace under the house that you can walk in for the most part.  It has a number of foundation vents and I plan to vent the flexible duct out of one of the foundation vents, which will hopefully draw in an adequate amount of air from the rest of the foundation vents.  I might try to build a shroud to capture the miner exhaust into the blower.

I'm currently looking at a few options.  One is upgrading the gable fan.... but it's pricy for what I want.  It was meant  for contractors with around 3000 CFM from gable fan.

But even if I get that I think it's to far away to get all the heat.  Its just a massive massive room.  So I'm taking it slow seeing what I can do.
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Been waiting on it. So far have only half my gear testing area. 

I still need to make changes.  It is hard that I have humidity so a lot of easy options are not possible for me.

Working on a few ideas I will update it once I try one.
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Been waiting on it. So far have only half my gear testing area.  

I still need to make changes.  It is hard that I have humidity so a lot of easy options are not possible for me.

Working on a few ideas I will update it once I try one.

Is there a way to dehumidify the air coming in?

Do you have adequate roof ventilation?

Seems odd you would have humidity issues is that because of the open windows?

Got any cheap desiccants like rice husks, wheat stalks or rock salt?

Found this on a DIY site:

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Rock Salt

I have tried this rock salt method and it works for me.

Materials you will need:

2 five gallon buckets and a bag of rock salt .Rock salt will pull moisture out of the air, therefore decreasing humidity.

Using a drill, put some holes, a couple dozen, in the sides and bottom of 1 bucket. Place the bucket with the holes on top of the intact 5 gallon bucket. Pour rock salt into the top bucket. Place the buckets in the area to be dehumidified.

As the rock salt pulls moisture out of the air, the moisture will collect in the bottom bucket, Dump liquid and replace rock salt in order to continue dehumidifying the area if necessary.

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Been waiting on it. So far have only half my gear testing area.  

I still need to make changes.  It is hard that I have humidity so a lot of easy options are not possible for me.

Working on a few ideas I will update it once I try one.

Is there a way to dehumidify the air coming in?

Do you have adequate roof ventilation?

Seems odd you would have humidity issues is that because of the open windows?

Got any cheap desiccants like rice husks, wheat stalks or rock salt?

Found this on a DIY site:

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Rock Salt

I have tried this rock salt method and it works for me.

Materials you will need:

2 five gallon buckets and a bag of rock salt .Rock salt will pull moisture out of the air, therefore decreasing humidity.

Using a drill, put some holes, a couple dozen, in the sides and bottom of 1 bucket. Place the bucket with the holes on top of the intact 5 gallon bucket. Pour rock salt into the top bucket. Place the buckets in the area to be dehumidified.

As the rock salt pulls moisture out of the air, the moisture will collect in the bottom bucket, Dump liquid and replace rock salt in order to continue dehumidifying the area if necessary.

I don't have humidity issues.  But i don't have the "dry heat" that evaporation is used with.  The weather has a humidity of 61 percent currently.  

So I assume humidity such as this makes evaporation cooling not a option.  Unless I just don't understand evaporation cooling which is possible.   I truly would appreciate your advice if I am understanding it wrong.

Yes it has windows open, which allow the air from outside with currently 61 percent humidity.

On adequate roof ventilation. It's never been a problem before gable fan has always worked.   Along with roof vent's. But with miners it might need more I'm not sure.
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May 07, 2015, 01:16:17 PM
Last edit: May 07, 2015, 01:27:53 PM by Bicknellski
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Oh ok...

I assumed you had humidity issues at your site not related to the evaporative cooling idea. My bad.

Evaporative cooling is used in Jakarta we have very high humidity all the time but they are running those on a much different system and definitely not evaporative walls like in those mega farms. Most of those places (mining farms in China) would have the same relative humidity / climate as where you are but I am sure they have it worked out to keep humidity down inside as these systems are used predominantly in chicken farms / greenhouses. Greenhouses and poultry farms can't have high humidity either as that would promote disease. I suspect the way it works is the heat is removed and the water is trapped in the panels and it freely escaping inside and outside the panel so it may not be adding all that much humidity inside and if you got good vents you should have no issues.

http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Huabo-ventilation-cooling-pad_1697720317.html?s=p

Greenhouse Evaporative Cooler Build

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jorgen houtsma 6 months ago
 Amazing. I just bought all the stuff on Amazon and gonna build it in a couple of weeks in the Bahamas.

My only concern is the humidity. I dont know if it will work in my greenhouse there.
I am going to build a small starter greenhouse 6x8 and gonna run the pump and Fan on solar. What do you think how much degrees I will go down in these areas? (ps I am Dutch so dont mind my English writing)

Thanks for sharing and compliments for the detailed list and your decent work. It does look very pro and nice!!
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Keyplayr61 Greenhouse Hydroponics And Gardens 6 months ago
 If you could somehow filter the water to get as much salt, and particles out of it as you can, it would be best. The salt film will most likely stop up the pad. I don't think it would harm the plants, since the air in your climate probably has as much, or more salt in it than you would be introducing to the greenhouse through the evap system. The system can go through quite a bit of water in a days time, at least it does for me anyway. That's why I have a float valve with a water supply line attached to it on the reservoir. It's not a ridiculous amount, but substantial all the same. In other words, you would have to check, and refill at least every 4 hours, depending on the size of your tank, and how long is required to run to maintain your desired temp. I'm looking forward to seeing the setup, when you get done!
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jorgen houtsma 6 months ago
 +keyplayr61 okay thanks Smiley I will think about it and I can monitor the water usage. If it is 100 gallon a month I am not worried but if it is 1000gal then I will be in trouble haha. Sometimes we dont get rain for 2 month Smiley And yes I am going to build exactly as you did, with a floatvalve. To be continued...


Been waiting on it. So far have only half my gear testing area.  

I still need to make changes.  It is hard that I have humidity so a lot of easy options are not possible for me.

Working on a few ideas I will update it once I try one.

Is there a way to dehumidify the air coming in?

Do you have adequate roof ventilation?

Seems odd you would have humidity issues is that because of the open windows?

Got any cheap desiccants like rice husks, wheat stalks or rock salt?

Found this on a DIY site:

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Rock Salt

I have tried this rock salt method and it works for me.

Materials you will need:

2 five gallon buckets and a bag of rock salt .Rock salt will pull moisture out of the air, therefore decreasing humidity.

Using a drill, put some holes, a couple dozen, in the sides and bottom of 1 bucket. Place the bucket with the holes on top of the intact 5 gallon bucket. Pour rock salt into the top bucket. Place the buckets in the area to be dehumidified.

As the rock salt pulls moisture out of the air, the moisture will collect in the bottom bucket, Dump liquid and replace rock salt in order to continue dehumidifying the area if necessary.

I don't have humidity issues.  But i don't have the "dry heat" that evaporation is used with.  The weather has a humidity of 61 percent currently.  

So I assume humidity such as this makes evaporation cooling not a option.  Unless I just don't understand evaporation cooling which is possible.   I truly would appreciate your advice if I am understanding it wrong.

Yes it has windows open, which allow the air from outside with currently 61 percent humidity.

On adequate roof ventilation. It's never been a problem before gable fan has always worked.   Along with roof vent's. But with miners it might need more I'm not sure.

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May 07, 2015, 10:54:59 PM
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Oh ok...

I assumed you had humidity issues at your site not related to the evaporative cooling idea. My bad.

Evaporative cooling is used in Jakarta we have very high humidity all the time but they are running those on a much different system and definitely not evaporative walls like in those mega farms. Most of those places (mining farms in China) would have the same relative humidity / climate as where you are but I am sure they have it worked out to keep humidity down inside as these systems are used predominantly in chicken farms / greenhouses. Greenhouses and poultry farms can't have high humidity either as that would promote disease. I suspect the way it works is the heat is removed and the water is trapped in the panels and it freely escaping inside and outside the panel so it may not be adding all that much humidity inside and if you got good vents you should have no issues.

http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Huabo-ventilation-cooling-pad_1697720317.html?s=p

Greenhouse Evaporative Cooler Build

Youtube video comments:

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jorgen houtsma 6 months ago
 Amazing. I just bought all the stuff on Amazon and gonna build it in a couple of weeks in the Bahamas.

My only concern is the humidity. I dont know if it will work in my greenhouse there.
I am going to build a small starter greenhouse 6x8 and gonna run the pump and Fan on solar. What do you think how much degrees I will go down in these areas? (ps I am Dutch so dont mind my English writing)

Thanks for sharing and compliments for the detailed list and your decent work. It does look very pro and nice!!
Jorgen
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Keyplayr61 Greenhouse Hydroponics And Gardens 6 months ago
 If you could somehow filter the water to get as much salt, and particles out of it as you can, it would be best. The salt film will most likely stop up the pad. I don't think it would harm the plants, since the air in your climate probably has as much, or more salt in it than you would be introducing to the greenhouse through the evap system. The system can go through quite a bit of water in a days time, at least it does for me anyway. That's why I have a float valve with a water supply line attached to it on the reservoir. It's not a ridiculous amount, but substantial all the same. In other words, you would have to check, and refill at least every 4 hours, depending on the size of your tank, and how long is required to run to maintain your desired temp. I'm looking forward to seeing the setup, when you get done!
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jorgen houtsma 6 months ago
 +keyplayr61 okay thanks Smiley I will think about it and I can monitor the water usage. If it is 100 gallon a month I am not worried but if it is 1000gal then I will be in trouble haha. Sometimes we dont get rain for 2 month Smiley And yes I am going to build exactly as you did, with a floatvalve. To be continued...


Been waiting on it. So far have only half my gear testing area.  

I still need to make changes.  It is hard that I have humidity so a lot of easy options are not possible for me.

Working on a few ideas I will update it once I try one.

Is there a way to dehumidify the air coming in?

Do you have adequate roof ventilation?

Seems odd you would have humidity issues is that because of the open windows?

Got any cheap desiccants like rice husks, wheat stalks or rock salt?

Found this on a DIY site:

Quote
Rock Salt

I have tried this rock salt method and it works for me.

Materials you will need:

2 five gallon buckets and a bag of rock salt .Rock salt will pull moisture out of the air, therefore decreasing humidity.

Using a drill, put some holes, a couple dozen, in the sides and bottom of 1 bucket. Place the bucket with the holes on top of the intact 5 gallon bucket. Pour rock salt into the top bucket. Place the buckets in the area to be dehumidified.

As the rock salt pulls moisture out of the air, the moisture will collect in the bottom bucket, Dump liquid and replace rock salt in order to continue dehumidifying the area if necessary.

I don't have humidity issues.  But i don't have the "dry heat" that evaporation is used with.  The weather has a humidity of 61 percent currently.  

So I assume humidity such as this makes evaporation cooling not a option.  Unless I just don't understand evaporation cooling which is possible.   I truly would appreciate your advice if I am understanding it wrong.

Yes it has windows open, which allow the air from outside with currently 61 percent humidity.

On adequate roof ventilation. It's never been a problem before gable fan has always worked.   Along with roof vent's. But with miners it might need more I'm not sure.

Not a problem at all I appriciate all your ideas. I wish my weather would make it possible.  But evaporation just is not built for the humid weather.

I'm still looking into other ideas.
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Your humidity is higher than Georgia In the US? That video was shot there. You don't need dry conditions it works in Georgia with very high humidity in the summer. Good luck.

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Your humidity is higher than Georgia In the US? That video was shot there. You don't need dry conditions it works in Georgia with very high humidity in the summer. Good luck.

In the Kansas area.  Yes it is a high humidity area during summer. 
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Your humidity is higher than Georgia In the US? That video was shot there. You don't need dry conditions it works in Georgia with very high humidity in the summer. Good luck.

In the Kansas area.  Yes it is a high humidity area during summer.  

Nothing compared to Georgia and Kansas is very similar to China where those mega farms use the evaporative cooling walls. Should be fine. I am seriously considering it for our 3rd Floor at our school just exactly like it is in the video as a trial. I only need it 5 days a week for a few hours a day here and we are nearly on the Equator.


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Your humidity is higher than Georgia In the US? That video was shot there. You don't need dry conditions it works in Georgia with very high humidity in the summer. Good luck.

In the Kansas area.  Yes it is a high humidity area during summer.  

Nothing compared to Georgia and Kansas is very similar to China where those mega farms use the evaporative cooling walls. Should be fine. I am seriously considering it for our 3rd Floor at our school just exactly like it is in the video as a trial. I only need it 5 days a week for a few hours a day here and we are nearly on the Equator.



Do you have any advice that is more "plug and play".   Something that I can buy and plug in to cool it down.   The building wall is beyond me currently on my ability. 

What i have done right now is separate my asics in two main areas.  It is disappointing to not put all in this area, but I guess maybe winter if I cannot get heat down.
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Your humidity is higher than Georgia In the US? That video was shot there. You don't need dry conditions it works in Georgia with very high humidity in the summer. Good luck.

In the Kansas area.  Yes it is a high humidity area during summer.  

Nothing compared to Georgia and Kansas is very similar to China where those mega farms use the evaporative cooling walls. Should be fine. I am seriously considering it for our 3rd Floor at our school just exactly like it is in the video as a trial. I only need it 5 days a week for a few hours a day here and we are nearly on the Equator.



Do you have any advice that is more "plug and play".   Something that I can buy and plug in to cool it down.   The building wall is beyond me currently on my ability.  

What i have done right now is separate my asics in two main areas.  It is disappointing to not put all in this area, but I guess maybe winter if I cannot get heat down.

Need to see the space layout some sort of plan view or diagram etc to think about it and suggest any ideas on what might be viable options. Again the video I posted is a simple window mount DIY take you a weekend to set up and building and install.

There are portable evap coolers as well.

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Your humidity is higher than Georgia In the US? That video was shot there. You don't need dry conditions it works in Georgia with very high humidity in the summer. Good luck.

In the Kansas area.  Yes it is a high humidity area during summer.  

Nothing compared to Georgia and Kansas is very similar to China where those mega farms use the evaporative cooling walls. Should be fine. I am seriously considering it for our 3rd Floor at our school just exactly like it is in the video as a trial. I only need it 5 days a week for a few hours a day here and we are nearly on the Equator.



Do you have any advice that is more "plug and play".   Something that I can buy and plug in to cool it down.   The building wall is beyond me currently on my ability.  

What i have done right now is separate my asics in two main areas.  It is disappointing to not put all in this area, but I guess maybe winter if I cannot get heat down.

Need to see the space layout some sort of plan view or diagram etc to think about it and suggest any ideas on what might be viable options. Again the video I posted is a simple window mount DIY take you a weekend to set up and building and install.

There are portable evap coolers as well.

Thanks I will try to see if I can get some dimensions.  I was going to do it already but could not find my long tape.

Truly I do appreciate your help.
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Looking into many options.  Mainly gable fan's.   Most likely going to replace with 2x or 3x current CFM.  Don't need it this moment so still shopping around.
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Looking into many options.  Mainly gable fan's.   Most likely going to replace with 2x or 3x current CFM.  Don't need it this moment so still shopping around.

More airflow might be all you need. Good Luck.

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I'm still shopping around looking at gable fan's.  I think I can get air moving a lot more then I have at ceiling height.  I'm looking at gable fan's around 3000 CFM to get around 2.5-3x more CFM then current one. 

Still shopping around might see if any local hardware stores have coupons.  I don't have any good ones.  On the two big ones I got 50 off 250 so a good coupon.  Nothing like that so far.  I'm all for a good deal Smiley
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I'm still shopping around looking at gable fan's.  I think I can get air moving a lot more then I have at ceiling height.  I'm looking at gable fan's around 3000 CFM to get around 2.5-3x more CFM then current one.  

Still shopping around might see if any local hardware stores have coupons.  I don't have any good ones.  On the two big ones I got 50 off 250 so a good coupon.  Nothing like that so far.  I'm all for a good deal Smiley

1.49 for the 50 off 250

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOWES-PROMO-CODE-ONLINE-ONLY-50-off-250-or-more-purchase-FAST-SHIPPING-/261883855856?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cf97e83f0

I have 0 idea if he is any good.

I can buy one for you if you do not have an ebay account.

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