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May 21, 2015, 07:56:04 AM
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the perfect way:

ac->miner->outside!

ducted or somehow done as above

too much air passed thru the ac may shorten its life span if air temp is high
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May 21, 2015, 08:09:45 AM
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the perfect way:

ac->miner->outside!

ducted or somehow done as above

too much air passed thru the ac may shorten its life span if air temp is high

This would be ideal.  Especially if you can do evaporation cooling as it is much cheaper then regular AC.

I my case cooling down 10K watt's worth of gear with normal AC just would make it to expensive.   This is why I focused on getting new air and old air out.  (Granted it is still in progress).   
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May 21, 2015, 03:55:47 PM
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the perfect way:

ac->miner->outside!

ducted or somehow done as above

too much air passed thru the ac may shorten its life span if air temp is high

Not sure to understand your ac - miner - outside.
This is another nice pic ( Tongue ) to explain the setup.
THe problem is in orange, hot air in red and cold air in blue.



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May 21, 2015, 05:20:16 PM
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the perfect way:

ac->miner->outside!

ducted or somehow done as above

too much air passed thru the ac may shorten its life span if air temp is high

Not sure to understand your ac - miner - outside.
This is another nice pic ( Tongue ) to explain the setup.
THe problem is in orange, hot air in red and cold air in blue.




I think he was meaning actually using AC to cool miner.   You could do that just pretty expensive. 

With area I'm in was not AC with it being a garage/work area.  So basically all the fan's and new gable fan will be put in for miners (and what ever ends up there one day after miners).

I have only done a few times AC directly into a miner.  One was the SilverFish 28 Scrypt miner.  It seemed to be temperature sensitive the longer I had it... but that was in the day's scrypt was bringing in a lot.
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May 21, 2015, 08:03:52 PM
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The AC is already in the same room as the miners. But its not enough so this is why I try to remove hot air from the rooms.  Wink

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May 21, 2015, 11:37:26 PM
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The AC is already in the same room as the miners. But its not enough so this is why I try to remove hot air from the rooms.  Wink

That is what I have focused on is removing hot air from miners.  It's been a lot of trial and error on it.  This gable fan should really help with the air removal though.   

And I have also put a fan under a regular vent trying to push hot air out a regular air vent.

I forgot it was memorial weekend, I might not get to the fan this weekend.
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May 25, 2015, 03:24:37 PM
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It has actually been cold/rainy weather and has cooled down.  I did not make it like i suspected with memorial weekend on putting up new gable fan.

The cool weather has been a nice surprise.  Although one of my ponds is overflowing... so guess switch from one problem to another.  Probley will be next weekend on putting up gable fan.
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May 28, 2015, 03:31:42 AM
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Looks like heat will cool down slightly making it a tad cooler.  I don't like the heat currently, I think new gable will really help out the stale hot air twords ceiling.

Looked at install what it will take.  I already have right sized screws (won't poke through boards and poke through siding, very important).   Also looked at install I think even though this gable fan has a nice temperature gunge I will keep old one.  It works fine just not as fancy, will take one less thing needing changed out.
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May 28, 2015, 01:33:45 PM
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Since my setup is not too big, I was looking at that.
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00H9OVMO8/ref=pe_756190_139664830_em_1p_3_im

With 1 good 8'' fan on the top to remove the air!  Grin

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May 29, 2015, 01:05:56 AM
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Since my setup is not too big, I was looking at that.
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00H9OVMO8/ref=pe_756190_139664830_em_1p_3_im

With 1 good 8'' fan on the top to remove the air!  Grin

That is a very nice premade enclosure for sure.  I find it funny that a lot of the air stuff is related to "Hydroponics".   Hopefully I don't get on some list for all the air equipment I ordered to use for miners.

And I thought it would be hot and me need to install gable.  And it rained once again... cooled weather down.  I think we need to fire some local weathermen.
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May 29, 2015, 06:03:05 PM
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I just received a 12" air blower that can move 3,000 CFM.
Make no mistake, this thing is loud as fuck but it keeps my basement coolest around.
In my tiny mining room, it can purge hot air and drop temps within seconds.
Usually, I let it run for a few minutes because it's just grossly loud.
No need for AC if it never really get more than 45C outside.
After that, nothing but an evaporative air cooler does the rest.
Proper air flow is the key to cool mine... AC is a waste I find... but live in a cool climate.

Nothing changes the fact that if your mine is full of hot air, throwing a bunch of cold air won't do nothing but burn your cash.
Get rid of that hot air, get it under control, then cool it.
I'm doing a reconfiguration in my mine right now but I'll post pictures later.
The blower I bought is Q-Essentials - 12" 4/7hp circular air blower, 3,000 CFM - Hi/Lo
There is also an 8" version but... go big or go home. 
That thing is LOUD... you have been warned if you get one; don't yell at me, but you're welcome if you get one and love it like I do.

PS: It's only around $150 too.

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May 29, 2015, 07:14:00 PM
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I just received a 12" air blower that can move 3,000 CFM.
Make no mistake, this thing is loud as fuck but it keeps my basement coolest around.
In my tiny mining room, it can purge hot air and drop temps within seconds.
Usually, I let it run for a few minutes because it's just grossly loud.
No need for AC if it never really get more than 45C outside.
After that, nothing but an evaporative air cooler does the rest.
Proper air flow is the key to cool mine... AC is a waste I find... but live in a cool climate.

Nothing changes the fact that if your mine is full of hot air, throwing a bunch of cold air won't do nothing but burn your cash.
Get rid of that hot air, get it under control, then cool it.
I'm doing a reconfiguration in my mine right now but I'll post pictures later.
The blower I bought is Q-Essentials - 12" 4/7hp circular air blower, 3,000 CFM - Hi/Lo
There is also an 8" version but... go big or go home. 
That thing is LOUD... you have been warned if you get one; don't yell at me, but you're welcome if you get one and love it like I do.

PS: It's only around $150 too.

Do you have a link to your fan?  Sounds like a promising fan with a decent amount of CFM.
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May 30, 2015, 01:36:17 AM
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I posted this in my other thread but what works for me is basically using vinyl tubing for the exhaust. The heat from the PSU is small.

Basically went to a few stores and for such a simple part it was very hard to find but one location of Home Depot had exactly what I was looking for.

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/flexible-vinyl-ducting-6-inch-x-10-foot/968350




Its 6 inch by 10 foot and fits both the S2 and S3 perfectly with no air escaping.

For the S3, all you do is slide it right in. For the S2, you use a few zip ties to get it to hold around the fan grill.









But now at least I can keep them running during the Summer.

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May 30, 2015, 02:13:49 AM
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adaseb thank you for sharing setup.  The S3 espically looks very clean with it pushing out through duct.

I think tomorrow I will be putting new gable fan in if it goes according to plan if so I will have some pictures to put on.
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May 30, 2015, 05:34:45 PM
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Takiing pictures during it did not happen.  Kinda in middle of project now.  The new fan is a beast compared to old one. 

It ended up needing a bigger area to hold it on.   So now working on 2 boards that go under it and help hold it in place a little. I think the reinforcement is very good as it was pretty heavy and not near as easy to get up.

So I will update this later.  But project in underway... just slow.
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May 31, 2015, 01:07:28 AM
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Well still need to take pictures and also add thermostat.  Currently it's being controlled by a switch (temporary).  Just doing this as I test it a day and make sure it works and I'm happy with it.

The gable fan is very very substantial compared to old one.   You can feel it when holding it the extra weight.  So now there is extra support added through some wood to allow it to attach screws in.   Also is one taking some of weight that it sits on.   

But as far as performance very very happy.  I do need to get some temperature readings.  But the gable fan vent shows a huge difference.  It's blowing the heck against the slat's and they are open all the way.  Old fan never had this much power.

So actual pictures and hopefully some temp to prove it worked to come in future.
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May 31, 2015, 04:28:49 AM
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Appears to be making a difference. I need to get temps to see difference.

It does blow a TON of air compared to last one it's around 2.5x or so the CFM.   I will take a picture of vent it is impressive as vent opens completly shooting air out it.  Old one lifted it up a little but nothing like it is.

At least project is kinda winding down a little.
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June 01, 2015, 12:02:56 AM
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Putting in the new tempature gauge was a litte bit of a pain. But have it working now.

I really like that the temp gauge turns off if it does not need it.  I have 1 extra temp gauge from old gable fan.  I would not mind using it with one of the big fans when I get time to have it more automated aswell.

But I will post some pics soon... i know i should have them but been a long weekend full of projects.
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June 02, 2015, 05:29:11 AM
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I finnaly am happy with my heat levels.  The new gable fan with around 2.5 x cfm as old one gets rid of the hot stale air that would build up.    I also have normal non powered vent's that help aswell.

The temperature gauge is in so it turns off if it is not needed.   I need to try to hook up old temp gauge to one of the big fans.  Then I'm pretty much done till winter.

Summer heat is harder to mine through then I expected.  I knew with 10k watt's of heat was a battle but did not realize how big of one.  I now use two main spot's for miners and they will make it through summer.   Winter I can compact it with new area and only need one (assuming machines are still profitable).   

2 things I did not include in ROI was adding a new security camera on new area.  And also updating security system to cover garage/ work area where new spot is.  Old spot already had these.   I did not include in ROI as they will be used even when that area no longer mines.

Pictures are coming I have been busy with a few non bitcoin projects so It's been a little less time to mining then normal.
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I finnaly am happy with my heat levels.  The new gable fan with around 2.5 x cfm as old one gets rid of the hot stale air that would build up.    I also have normal non powered vent's that help aswell.

The temperature gauge is in so it turns off if it is not needed.   I need to try to hook up old temp gauge to one of the big fans.  Then I'm pretty much done till winter.

Summer heat is harder to mine through then I expected.  I knew with 10k watt's of heat was a battle but did not realize how big of one.  I now use two main spot's for miners and they will make it through summer.   Winter I can compact it with new area and only need one (assuming machines are still profitable).   

2 things I did not include in ROI was adding a new security camera on new area.  And also updating security system to cover garage/ work area where new spot is.  Old spot already had these.   I did not include in ROI as they will be used even when that area no longer mines.

Pictures are coming I have been busy with a few non bitcoin projects so It's been a little less time to mining then normal.

you see any real improvement yet in hashing with the cooling? I'm running my Titan(s) bsmt heat is 82F or so .... in that it has been cool (cool here too) wondering ...my hash harte has gone UP 0.3mh with the heat (go figure) anyway have to do the same as you ..put in the gable fan here ....but stalling Smiley


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