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August 26, 2012, 03:03:00 AM |
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True. But Windows 7 pre-release keys did expire sometime after the Windows 7 launch. Same will happen with Windows 8 pre-release.
But I'm selling RTM key. So it will not expire |
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Littleshop
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August 26, 2012, 03:32:52 AM |
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True. But Windows 7 pre-release keys did expire sometime after the Windows 7 launch. Same will happen with Windows 8 pre-release.
But I'm selling RTM key. So it will not expire This disagrees with you: http://njnnetwork.com/2012/08/windows-8-rtm-is-not-a-gift/ |
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August 26, 2012, 03:42:59 AM |
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Thanks for giving more feedbacks. Many of my customers bought windows 7 key rather than windows 8 key. As far as I know, no one complaints to me that their windows 7 has expired.
The 7 keys won't expire just because Windows 8 is out. True. But Windows 7 pre-release keys did expire sometime after the Windows 7 launch. Same will happen with Windows 8 pre-release. The keys listed on msdn paid subscriptions are for RTM Win 7 and RTM Win 8 so that you can setup a lab indefinitely and test things. There are no expiration so long as the keys don't get blocked for being shared, etc. |
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August 26, 2012, 04:34:38 AM
Last edit: August 26, 2012, 05:30:24 AM by softwareseller |
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Check the caption below the image of your link. Windows 8 RTM free license expires in 90 days Yes. Free key expires for 90 days. Paid keys last forever. I sell paid keys. Just as imsaguy pointed out |
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August 26, 2012, 04:40:57 AM |
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Littleshop, want to bet? Whether the key will expire or not?
20BTC bet, both of us send 20BTC to the escrow. I also send the key to him. We'll come back after 90 days. And see the result. Shall we?
Key send to escrow for free for serving us.
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August 26, 2012, 05:59:29 AM |
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Thank you. Those guys should put money where their mouths
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August 26, 2012, 09:38:36 AM |
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Thank you. Those guys should put money where their mouths
Watching this, But I cant wait 90 days to see if this is for real so going to get a genuine retail version as I just cant be assed anymore. |
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LoupGaroux
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August 26, 2012, 04:50:26 PM |
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Retail price on the full release from Microsoft is going to be $39.95 US for Win 8. Why would anybody bet $200 that your illegally sold keys are going to last when they can get the real deal for one fifth the price? It's little junior scammers like this that ruin the benefits that legitimate developers get from the various companies they work with. Thanks for pimping your shit and screwing up the system for all the good people who develop for the OS.
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August 26, 2012, 05:36:44 PM |
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Retail price on the full release from Microsoft is going to be $39.95 US for Win 8. Why would anybody bet $200 that your illegally sold keys are going to last when they can get the real deal for one fifth the price? It's little junior scammers like this that ruin the benefits that legitimate developers get from the various companies they work with. Thanks for pimping your shit and screwing up the system for all the good people who develop for the OS.
correction, the upgrade from windows 7 is $40 Thank you. Those guys should put money where their mouths
wow, you gave littleshop a whopping 1 hour and 20 minutes to respond before declaring him to be full of shit. Check the caption below the image of your link. Windows 8 RTM free license expires in 90 days Yes. Free key expires for 90 days. Paid keys last forever. I sell paid keys. Just as imsaguy pointed out is there a way to know that your keys are paid? Because it will suck if someone bought your keys, and found out that they were free 90 days later. by that time, you probably could have run away. |
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August 26, 2012, 05:44:22 PM |
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Check the caption below the image of your link. Windows 8 RTM free license expires in 90 days Yes. Free key expires for 90 days. Paid keys last forever. I sell paid keys. Just as imsaguy pointed out is there a way to know that your keys are paid? Because it will suck if someone bought your keys, and found out that they were free 90 days later. by that time, you probably could have run away. Generally, the trial keys will indicate that much. I'm not trying to defend softwareseller, just making sure the info presented from both sides is legit. |
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August 26, 2012, 07:00:58 PM |
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To be fair softwareseller asked me to test this out for him, Then if it lasted past the 90 days to pay him, But I have no intrest in win 8, So he must beleive in his keys, And he has had some buyers of those keys who are happy.
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August 27, 2012, 02:39:26 AM |
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Look, I'm just trying to get some information out there for folks who might be tempted. What softewarereseller is doing is wrong, and a violation of his licensing with MS, if he even has licensing for the items he is offering. He is selling something that he is expressly forbidden to sell, if he has legit access, or he is flogging someone else's license in violation of their licensing agreement. MS is very aware of these kinds of sellers, and they timebomb their releases to the tech community for just this reason. They may not even expressly tell you how it will die, but die it indeed will. You accept those rules as a developer. The program is going to be $40 for the upgrade from 7. That gives you 5 machines worth of simultaneous licensing. Not such an onerous price for what is looking like a fairly decent release.
Or you can choose to do business with a rip-off artist who thinks that using a potty mouth somehow makes his argument more compelling. Interesting to note that squall has been asked to "test" this for him. Note the the original posts said nothing about money back guarantees, product testing, or trust... it was a sales pitch for stolen property, pure and simple. If you are comfortable with that- knock yourself out, pirate the shit out of it. But don't come whining here when the timebomb goes off, you system no longer works and you spend days trying to find the right keygen/KMS system to release your machines. It's 4 btc to upgrade. If you want the release bad enough, is that really such a heavy price?
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August 27, 2012, 03:17:12 AM |
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MS is very aware of these kinds of sellers, and they timebomb their releases to the tech community for just this reason. They may not even expressly tell you how it will die, but die it indeed will.
a) You could activate my key on retail copy which is exactly the same as MSDN copy b) Microsoft allows developers to use activated copy forever timebomb? Where the hell is this comes from? Can you tell me a way that allows Microsoft to "timebomb" my key without monitor what you do and break all privacy law? |
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August 27, 2012, 03:34:53 AM |
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Price on the Win 8 Keys seem a little high, since you can upgrade any XP key to 8 for $39.99 on OCT 26 and don't have to worry about the Key being "timed-bomb" or becoming invalid if the MSDN account is terminated.
Win 8 RTM is great, and someone just did a patch(hack) to remove metro and add the start menu LOL.
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August 27, 2012, 03:48:11 AM |
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Win 8 RTM is great, and someone just did a patch(hack) to remove metro and add the start menu LOL.
LOL. So much for windows 8. |
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August 27, 2012, 02:01:21 PM |
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MS is very aware of these kinds of sellers, and they timebomb their releases to the tech community for just this reason. They may not even expressly tell you how it will die, but die it indeed will.
a) You could activate my key on retail copy which is exactly the same as MSDN copy b) Microsoft allows developers to use activated copy forever timebomb? Where the hell is this comes from? Can you tell me a way that allows Microsoft to "timebomb" my key without monitor what you do and break all privacy law? A) Obviously the key could activate ANY copy of the software, and in so doing it keys exactly what license is being used. All of the release versions are the same... the key is what sets the permission levels, and creates the triggers by which ET phones home and checks to verify that it is valid on a license count basis, and a time basis. Of course if you had any kind of legitimate ownership of this license you would already know this, and you would understand the terms of the agreement that you electronically signed with Microsoft that specifically forbid you from doing exactly what you are doing in offering multiple copies of the license for sale. And no, I will not explain the intricacies of how time crippling works after a license check. It would be a violation of a couple of NDA's, and the effort would be wasted on an unrepentant thief like you. B) Microsoft allows this courtesy to developers who use the software in development, NOT to little cheats who sell the license repeatedly in violation of their terms. You, Sir, are not Microsoft, and do not have the legal grounds to sell these licenses. You are selling them illegally, you are offering tainted goods which will have no support or follow-through when they invariably fail, and anyone who buys a copy of your illegal license will be left holding the bag looking for an additional illegal way of activating or continuing to use their software when their machine stops functioning. |
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August 27, 2012, 03:12:16 PM |
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Shit truncated.
you are offering tainted goods which will have no support or follow-through when they invariably fail, and anyone who buys a copy of your illegal license will be left holding the bag looking for an additional illegal way of activating or continuing to use their software when their machine stops functioning.
Let's mark it here and come back after 6 months, 12 month so on to check with my clients. Hell, why not take a bet with me as imsaguy(or anybody you trust) would be the escrow if you are so sure about what you are saying and have "inside" knowledge about how Microsoft works with their keys? Bet: Windows copy will still be activated after 6 months. For:softwareseller Against:LoupGaroux Amount:20BTC We'll each deposit 20BTC to an escrow and key would be sent to escrow to determine the results. Dare to take it? |
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August 27, 2012, 04:17:14 PM |
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Why? What possible benefit could I obtain from tying up 20 btc in escrow for some period of time just to prove you wrong? Double my money by winning the bet? Thanks, I have other, honest ways to increase my wealth, that don't involve truck with lowlifes. I don't claim to have "inside" knowledge, what I have done is read the terms associated with my Tech Net membership (which was graciously provided to me for free, but I'm not going to share how, because quite frankly, I don't want scumbags using that avenue to scam free shit that they will try to sell, as that will kill the goose that lays the review copy golden eggs). I don't pay for software from Microsoft, I get it for free, and part of that is the responsibility of respecting the terms of the agreement that provides it to me that way.
You are a cheat, who sells property that isn't yours to the unsuspecting.
I don't wager on that, I wager shooting craps where I know I can make some money. I just intend to be thorn in your side, and I will continue to point out when you, or any other cheat like you, publicly proclaims your ignorance of the rules, and your unrepentant desire to steal from others. Why not take your illegal wares over to Silk Road? That community has far less respect for what is legal and what is not, and you would be with friendlies.
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August 27, 2012, 04:19:45 PM |
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I wager shooting craps
OT, but +1 |
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August 27, 2012, 05:02:35 PM |
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Price on the Win 8 Keys seem a little high, since you can upgrade any XP key to 8 for $39.99 on OCT 26 and don't have to worry about the Key being "timed-bomb" or becoming invalid if the MSDN account is terminated.
Win 8 RTM is great, and someone just did a patch(hack) to remove metro and add the start menu LOL.
How's that work? |
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