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April 15, 2015, 08:18:50 PM
Last edit: April 22, 2015, 11:59:32 AM by Elwar
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As I mentioned a few months ago here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=959464.0
I said that there would be something big on April 15th so I will cut right to it.

From the post I purposefully posted
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NOt TROLLING
with a capitalized "NO TROLLING". This is the first part.

The Internet and especially Bitcoin forums have their fair share of trolls, from the Buttcoin people on reddit to the many people who are heavily invested in their own alt coin that they believe the best way for their coin to succeed is to knock Bitcoin out of the game (so that their cryptocurrency can become the target for the next round of alt coin trolls). There has even been evidence of paid trolls and with the amount of trolls and sock puppets on bitcointalk I would not put it past them being paid as well (see the influx of trolls that will surely join this thread).
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/foreigners/2014/11/internet_trolls_pose_a_threat_internet_commentators_shouldn_t_be_anonymous.html

I have been involved with Bitcoin since 2010, back then we were mainly a group of people who wanted to see Bitcoin succeed. Sure we had one or two people that would try to spread FUD to make the price drop but they did so because they too believed in Bitcoin, they just wanted more at cheaper prices. You could go onto the forum and ask serious questions and get serious responses from people who had a similar interest in making Bitcoin grow, and we could coordinate our efforts to further Bitcoin's progress. Now it becomes a matter of trying to play whack a troll with the ignore button.

So I came up with a solution. Utilizing the Bitcoin balance verification functionality already built into BitPools I have developed the BitPools forum. http://www.bitpools.com/forum

Each forum can be set to require that you hold a minimum amount of mBTC to post in the thread. From as little as 1 mBTC (about 20 cents) to as many as is desired by the group of posters. There is already precedent for this with the Whale Club on teamspeak where people have to prove that they have at least 500 bitcoins to participate. Each forum will obviously not require so many bitcoins but it will at least ensure that everyone involved in the discussion at least shares the commonality of having some bitcoins.

A sock puppet or paid trolls will likely be put off by needing to hold so many bitcoins for each user to the point that they hold many of the coins they wish to discredit.

The BitPools forum has been built from the ground up with Bitcoin in mind so it can evolve more easily and effectively to meet the needs of the Bitcoin community. There is no need to wait for a new release from some forum software company or deal with the difficulty of trying to put custom features into something that is not built for Bitcoin. While it is in its infancy right now, I have tried to make the functionality and look a cross between bitcointalk and reddit with threads and forums in an easy to traverse tree structure.

Now to the second part. In building the social media aspect of BitPools into the forum I have also included it into the Pool functionality so that different projects can more easily coordinate their efforts towards the goal of successfully funding their projects.

This brings us to the significance of April 15th.


What if April 15th was just another day? The whole point of BitPools is to replace the outdated concept of governments taxing people to pay for their projects. Instead, it allows groups of people with common interests to pool their money and vote with their bitcoins on the solution that they desire.

Toward this end, BitPools will be hosting the coordinating efforts of creating the first ever seastead (Marinea http://www.marinea.co). A project to create a self-sustaining town at sea with businesses and housing which will be open to investors who will get a share of the infrastructure. The project has been coordinating via Skype, e-mail and other tools bringing together a very knowledgeable global team of experts around the effort but will more easily be able to coordinate using BitPools social media and voting functionality.

Working with the Marinea project, BitPools will be adding functionality as the need is identified which can be used for any project that requires such coordination. This includes Project management tools, Gantt chart tools, chat functionality, file share, calendar and more.

By working with the Marinea project, BitPools can demonstrate to all those involved, just how voting with your bitcoins can work toward achieving project goals which can hopefully translate into a new era without taxes and a voluntary society on the seas as a demonstration to the rest of the world that there is a better alternative than the outdated systems we have now.

Finally, BitPools will be utilizing Bitrated (https://www.bitrated.com) as their API allows for third party coordination so that all contracts can easily be escrowed with trusted arbitration for the most fair means of funding projects. It will also make available the use of Bitrated trust within the user profile and forum software to further help with interaction without the random troll or sock puppet steering the discussion.

It is BitPools' goal to help anyone with a project in mind to most effectively coordinate their efforts toward achieving their goals. Go try it out at http://www.bitpools.com

tl;dr  A new Bitcoin forum with bitcoin balance features to discourage trolling and the first ever seastead will be using BitPools for coordination efforts.

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April 15, 2015, 08:19:11 PM
Last edit: April 22, 2015, 12:00:33 PM by Elwar
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Updates:

Seasteading project name chosen: Marinea http://www.marinea.co
Forum software up and running at BitPools.com

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April 15, 2015, 08:20:57 PM
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And there it is, so much doubt about when it will be "revealed"

Lets start reading!
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April 15, 2015, 08:27:33 PM
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Came here to see what was supposed to happen today and saw this thread... Definitely not disappointed! I admit I was really skeptic at first because I had imagined none of this... Seems like a very good work, and you have some great ideas! Can't wait to see the forum... Smiley
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April 15, 2015, 08:34:12 PM
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Huh. Actually kind of interesting. Whether this counts as "big" remains to be seen.

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April 15, 2015, 08:35:02 PM
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So this is it. The wait is over. I wish you good luck, and I add that I'm amazed you start big: "a self-sustaining town at sea".

Wow! Again, all the best!

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April 15, 2015, 08:41:07 PM
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-snip-

Great idea, can't wait to see how this plays out. I think we all need to consider using Bitcoin/Blockchain to replace/improve existing infrastructure. I created some similar software using Django about a month back, not centered around Message Boards/Forums but it utilized a similar idea that if a person is holding Bitcoin it can help provide some 'guarantees' that the likely hood of something happening is higher.

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April 15, 2015, 08:43:14 PM
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I'm not disappointed in going to this thread and see a TL;DR in the end. Cheesy

But honestly, this seems to be the "big" event that you're referring to. I'll save this for reading later when I wake up. And also, in regards to the quotation, the politics and the governments of the world are sometimes tyrannical and sinful (actually, they are most of the time) forcing you to pay for taxes that you don't want because personally you believe that their ideas and beliefs are somehow different from yours. If you do not follow what they say, you'll end up getting into jail because of "disservice to the nation". That just sucks.

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April 15, 2015, 08:45:45 PM
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I'm trying to sign up on BitPools, but the website is barely responding to requests... Is it just on my end?
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April 15, 2015, 08:48:57 PM
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I'm trying to sign up on BitPools, but the website is barely responding to requests... Is it just on my end?

Once everything is loaded for the first time it should be very fast as everything is running on your computer.

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April 15, 2015, 08:54:56 PM
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I'm a little disappointed. I wanted bigger news for Bitcoin... but I do think its an interesting concept, although I really dislike a persons financial status being the 'weight' of their voice.

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April 15, 2015, 09:43:37 PM
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Hmmm interesting, seems like it will be nice about what about people who have most of their funds on cold storage notes?

Cold storage is the best way to use BitPools. You just have to move them once to verify your balance.

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Sounds like a positive idea. Is there going to be some sort of signature campaings on there, or ways to earn BTC, or it's only a place to talk and stuff?
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April 15, 2015, 10:22:59 PM
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I read Elwar's post very carefully and I have to say that is interesting idea but... I think you are missing the point here. What you are offering is basically forum where you have to pay to write a post?
You need to pay each time you post in a thread? Am I reading this right? So you realise that 20 cents may not be much for you or anyone from US or western EU but it may be a lot for people from other parts of the globe, right? And you are making them unable to voice their opinion by putting wall of money on their way? I don't think it is a good move. You will be discussing things between members of your own elite "Whale Club"  probably.


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April 15, 2015, 10:31:25 PM
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So April 15 was the announcement day for bitpools.com made by Chad Elwar ?
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I read Alwar's post very carefully and I have to say that is interesting idea but... I think you are missing the point here. What you are offering is basically forum where you have to pay to write a post?
You need to pay each time you post in a thread? Am I reading this right? So you realise that 20 cents may not be much for you or anyone from US or western EU but it may be a lot for people from other parts of the globe, right? And you are making them unable to voice their opinion by putting wall of money on their way? I don't think it is a good move. You will be discussing things between members of your own elite "Whale Club"  probably.

Not at all. You just have to have 20 cents in your cold storage wallet. BitPools uses the blockchain to verify that you have a bitcoin balance.


The story I use to explain this is a project I was involved in called the Free Town project. There were about 40-50 of us with the same goal, to buy some land in New Hampshire and set up a small community with the goal of liberty. The idea was if we bought a large parcel of land we could get the price per acre down and people could put in something like $5,000 and get around 5 acres.

After months of discussion of every little thing from the best location, the rules of the community, how the land would be divided, etc. we finally had a real estate investor set up a corporation for us and he began going to different locations for us and gave us a report on the site. It was nearing the point when we needed to put in the money. Myself and another couple signed a contract and sent $10,000 each (10 acres). Everyone else fell silent. Nobody had that much extra money put aside for the project. They were all talk, more into the idea of a free town than actually putting any money toward it. Myself and the couple got our money back after a few months of waiting for anyone to participate.

A lot of time could have been saved if we could have verified up front that people actually had the funds for the project that they were involved in planning.

BitPools solves this. And now there is a forum which will allow for communication among people with different levels of Bitcoin involvement.

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April 15, 2015, 10:43:40 PM
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Sounds like a positive idea. Is there going to be some sort of signature campaings on there, or ways to earn BTC, or it's only a place to talk and stuff?

No plans for implementing signatures. The goal is quality discussion, not a race to get as many posts as possible.

If that means less posts then that is ok.

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I read Alwar's post very carefully and I have to say that is interesting idea but... I think you are missing the point here. What you are offering is basically forum where you have to pay to write a post?
You need to pay each time you post in a thread? Am I reading this right? So you realise that 20 cents may not be much for you or anyone from US or western EU but it may be a lot for people from other parts of the globe, right? And you are making them unable to voice their opinion by putting wall of money on their way? I don't think it is a good move. You will be discussing things between members of your own elite "Whale Club"  probably.

Not at all. You just have to have 20 cents in your cold storage wallet. BitPools uses the blockchain to verify that you have a bitcoin balance.


The story I use to explain this is a project I was involved in called the Free Town project. There were about 40-50 of us with the same goal, to buy some land in New Hampshire and set up a small community with the goal of liberty. The idea was if we bought a large parcel of land we could get the price per acre down and people could put in something like $5,000 and get around 5 acres.

After months of discussion of every little thing from the best location, the rules of the community, how the land would be divided, etc. we finally had a real estate investor set up a corporation for us and he began going to different locations for us and gave us a report on the site. It was nearing the point when we needed to put in the money. Myself and another couple signed a contract and sent $10,000 each (10 acres). Everyone else fell silent. Nobody had that much extra money put aside for the project. They were all talk, more into the idea of a free town than actually putting any money toward it. Myself and the couple got our money back after a few months of waiting for anyone to participate.

A lot of time could have been saved if we could have verified up front that people actually had the funds for the project that they were involved in planning.

BitPools solves this. And now there is a forum which will allow for communication among people with different levels of Bitcoin involvement.
I know that you feel betrayed when others backed from that "Free Town" investment project of yours (great idea btw, I really liked it) and now you think that you can prevent this kind of situation in the future by verifying before if said individuals are indeed 'loaded'. But this will only make you know for sure that people you are dealing with are indeed having said money, they claim they have. But they still can troll you and back from theirs previous claims, there are a lot of rich trolls after all.


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April 15, 2015, 11:06:28 PM
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I know that you feel betrayed when others backed from that "Free Town" investment project of yours (great idea btw, I really liked it) and now you think that you can prevent this kind of situation in the future by verifying before if said individuals are indeed 'loaded'. But this will only make you know for sure that people you are dealing with are indeed having said money, they claim they have. But they still can troll you and back from theirs previous claims, there are a lot of rich trolls after all.

I don't claim that people will be willing to part with their funds, just that they have the funds available. There is a reason that people go to Shark Tank and pitch their ideas in front of rich VCs instead of pitching to random people on the street.

I don't really feel betrayed, that was 10 years ago, it was no big deal. It was just an inefficient way of doing things and a waste of a lot of peoples' time spent dreaming.

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April 16, 2015, 01:00:01 AM
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interesting.  is the ultimate goal to  lead it up to having our own  nation, btcnation? serious question.   
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