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September 09, 2012, 08:08:13 AM
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You'd think that a guy championing this great of a bet would be on when the clock rolled over.

It seems he confused his timezone(KST) with GMT+1 Roll Eyes
You need to wait till 16:49:20 GMT+1, so, 8 hours from now.
No, he clearly stated 04:49:20 PM KST, it's now after 5 over there.

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The original OP states that the bet ends 3 weeks after August 19, 2012, 04:49:20 PM, so that means it ends on September 9th, 2012, 04:49:20 PM KST (Korean Standard Time, local to me). I think I had mentioned a slightly longer deadline elsewhere on IRC out of confusion (September 12th perhaps?), but this is incorrect as you can clearly see. The bet will also end if Pirate has provided proof of paying back all (not 99.9%) of his obligated debts and interests per agreements, whichever comes first.

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September 09, 2012, 08:13:06 AM
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You'd think that a guy championing this great of a bet would be on when the clock rolled over.

It seems he confused his timezone(KST) with GMT+1 Roll Eyes
You need to wait till 16:49:20 GMT+1, so, 8 hours from now.
No, he clearly stated 04:49:20 PM KST, it's now after 5 over there.

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The original OP states that the bet ends 3 weeks after August 19, 2012, 04:49:20 PM, so that means it ends on September 9th, 2012, 04:49:20 PM KST (Korean Standard Time, local to me). I think I had mentioned a slightly longer deadline elsewhere on IRC out of confusion (September 12th perhaps?), but this is incorrect as you can clearly see. The bet will also end if Pirate has provided proof of paying back all (not 99.9%) of his obligated debts and interests per agreements, whichever comes first.

Yes, that's what Psy said. he made a mistake.

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September 09, 2012, 08:14:20 AM
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Matthew: Where's my money? ...You've got till five o'clock...
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September 09, 2012, 08:22:57 AM
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So how long do you suppose theymos will give Matthew to pay before he gives him a scammer tag?
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September 09, 2012, 08:48:13 AM
Last edit: September 09, 2012, 09:08:04 AM by Konichua
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Can someone please clarify when it actually ends please?
And Matt, I have only just seen your thread. Is it possible to make a 100 BTC bet? Cheesy
edit: Reduced bet amount because I have an idea for something else.
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September 09, 2012, 08:49:40 AM
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September 09, 2012, 09:37:43 AM
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Me too

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September 09, 2012, 09:38:35 AM
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https://www.google.com/search?q=troll+"eating+popcorn"&hl=en&safe=off&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch  Tongue
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September 09, 2012, 09:41:34 AM
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Nope it is over, indeed well and truly over, and it has been for while now, it was over even before it was over  Wink Nobody will get any money.

It is just denial and all the other stages of grief left.
It wasn't over until we found out just how many of the other investments that claimed to have nothing to do with Pirate had actually put large proportions of their money in BS&T. (Spoiler: quite a lot of them!)

Huh. Apparently no such thing as nanoBitcoin or picoBitcoin. Ten nanoBTC is the smallest unit we have.
Yeah, you can't send Bitcoins in units smaller than 10^-8 BTC.

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September 09, 2012, 09:47:15 AM
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Let's recap a bit from the other thread.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101751.msg1113276#msg1113276
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If he owes 100% and only pays back 90% without agreement to investors, -that- is fraud and a failure to pay back. I would obviously lose the bet.
If he owes 100% and only pays back 90% but the investors agreed to it, -that- is the agreement and therefor he has paid it back. I would win the bet.
If he owes 100% and pays back 100%, I would win the bet.
If he owes 100% and does not pay anything anything back, I would lose the bet.


I'm trying my best to be smart about my clarifications, but if you need any more clarification, please ask and give examples so I can better explain. This is all on good faith of course, I don't want to get into legal arguments "But you said if he paid back on 12oclock and that was EST not KST" and other bullshit. This is about whether he is a scammer/ponzi or not, not about whether you can cheat the system for a cheap profit.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101751.msg1128484#msg1128484
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Thank you everyone for showing a huge amount of integrity to bet for your beliefs instead of just arguing, defaming, accusing, aggravating, etc. Many of you truly believe Pirate is a ponzi, many of you are simply utilizing my offer for hedging, and still others are simply happy to take a 50/50 chance bet on anything. Regardless, we are at the 10,000BTC mark and thus I am locking the thread so that no more bets can be received here.

I still believe there is a very high chance that Pirate is just doing a business which we don't understand, and my sinking gut, although questioning his lack of professionalism, lateness, etc, reminds me that no one is perfect and it may all just be a series of bad coincidences. I hope I am right and that I am able to prove to the community once and for all that what we don't understand is not always a scam. If I happen to be wrong, I'm happy to have enjoyed this entertaining time with everyone, and I've actually made quite a lot of new friends (as you can imagine).

The original OP states that the bet ends 3 weeks after August 19, 2012, 04:49:20 PM, so that means it ends on September 9th, 2012, 04:49:20 PM KST (Korean Standard Time, local to me). I think I had mentioned a slightly longer deadline elsewhere on IRC out of confusion (September 12th perhaps?), but this is incorrect as you can clearly see. The bet will also end if Pirate has provided proof of paying back all (not 99.9%) of his obligated debts and interests per agreements, whichever comes first.

Good luck to everyone and thank you for participating in this monumental lesson for all of us.
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1 day, 18 hours, 39 minutes, 50 seconds from NOW.

8 hours, 14 minutes, 12 seconds

I love the part where people are arguing about why something happened that hasn't happened. Keep the comedy coming! (It's 15 hours left on the bet btw, not 8. This is how lazy the fudding has gotten lately. I am disappoint.)

On the timeline you gave (quoted above) it's now exactly 7 hours, 23 minutes, 45 seconds.

This was corrected on IRC and is old news. Check the thread OP and do the math.

First deadline expired. Second timeline after Matthew chickened first, 6 hours 3 minutes to go.

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September 09, 2012, 09:54:00 AM
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Even if pirateat40 start paying now there is no time for the contisions to be met for matthew to win.

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September 09, 2012, 09:56:51 AM
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First deadline expired. Second timeline after Matthew chickened first, 6 hours 3 minutes to go.

Incorrect deadline passed. It's three weeks (apparently, to the minute) from the original posting of the bet.

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September 09, 2012, 09:58:15 AM
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Countdown: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20120910T004920&p0=235&msg=End+of+Matthew%27s+Bet

I've checked and this doesn't have any more of Matthew's timezone screwups, so hopefully it'll be the last one.

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September 09, 2012, 10:05:30 AM
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First deadline expired. Second timeline after Matthew chickened first, 6 hours 3 minutes to go.

Incorrect deadline passed. It's three weeks (apparently, to the minute) from the original posting of the bet.

He stated that date, even if by mistake. What makes "three weeks" more valid than the closer deadline that he gave? He basically stated two dates in two different moments and only "corrected" it in IRC where many of us couldn't witness it.

Not that it matters though, in 5 hours 44 minutes nothing will change.

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September 09, 2012, 10:18:42 AM
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First deadline expired. Second timeline after Matthew chickened first, 6 hours 3 minutes to go.

Incorrect deadline passed. It's three weeks (apparently, to the minute) from the original posting of the bet.

He stated that date, even if by mistake. What makes "three weeks" more valid than the closer deadline that he gave? He basically stated two dates in two different moments and only "corrected" it in IRC where many of us couldn't witness it.

Not that it matters though, in 5 hours 44 minutes nothing will change.


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September 09, 2012, 10:23:09 AM
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Why didn't YOU wait to even post that thread ? Can you suddenly see into the future ? or are you giving everyone a chance to get their Troll hats on and ready to go ?

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September 09, 2012, 10:39:19 AM
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Why didn't YOU wait to even post that thread ? Can you suddenly see into the future ? or are you giving everyone a chance to get their Troll hats on and ready to go ?

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September 09, 2012, 10:46:21 AM
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Why didn't YOU wait to even post that thread ? Can you suddenly see into the future ? or are you giving everyone a chance to get their Troll hats on and ready to go ?

Not just troll hats. 5 fkn gallon troll hats! Made in Texas USA, at the famous Mckinney county ass hat farm.


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September 09, 2012, 10:48:09 AM
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Matthew cant even tell the time and you expect him to have 80 000 btc ?

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