Discussion about 10,000BTC Bet (Official)

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1)  Matt is not paying out.

2)  pretty shitty thing to do IMO. 

3)  Don't understand his motivation for doing this, don't agree with it.

4)  not all that shocked

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[myrkul]

1)  Matt is not paying out.

2)  pretty shitty thing to do IMO. 

3)  Don't understand his motivation for doing this, don't agree with it.

4)  not all that shocked

5) I will laugh my ass clean off if you're proven wrong.

6) I will also laugh my ass clean off if you're proven right.

[bitlane]

Shouldn't you all be out trying to find DEFINITIVE PROOF that Pirate's 'thing' was a PONZI SCAM rather than more speculating ?

I mean, THAT's what you you all bet on and there's still NO PROOF as to what he is, has been or will be doing in the future.

....some people should have read more than simply BET BET BET.....

[bitlane]

Woops....

[smoothie]

Shouldn't you all be out trying to find DEFINITIVE PROOF that Pirate's 'thing' was a PONZI SCAM rather than more speculating ?

I mean, THAT's what you you all bet on and there's still NO PROOF as to what he is, has been or will be doing in the future.

....some people should have read more than simply BET BET BET.....

Bitlane you need to learn to read. THe bet with Matthew wasnt whether or not pirate ran a ponzi but rather if he would pay in full (100% and interest) according to his thread within 3 weeks.

Try to keep up please...thanks

 

[Bitcoin Oz]

1)  Matt is not paying out.

2)  pretty shitty thing to do IMO. 

3)  Don't understand his motivation for doing this, don't agree with it.

4)  not all that shocked

5) I will laugh my ass clean off if you're proven wrong.

6) I will also laugh my ass clean off if you're proven right.

7) Profit $$

[Chang Hum]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101751.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102918.0

Matthew nowhere on the OP did you say that exact time as you just claimed a few posts above this one.

By my standards there is non IRC log posted on this forum saying anything to the contrary of the bet deadline I just posted.

In what dimension does 3 weeks from August 20, 2012, 12:49:20 AM KST equal September 9th, 2012 at 5PM?

Just lol'd because Matt has got "remember, remember the 9th of September under his avatar" and now suggesting this bet ends on the 10th

However as per Matt's original post Post;

"if Pirate does not pay out in 3 weeks as he described in his thread."

What thread? No link and nothing in pirateat40 history i'm confused!!  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=35827;sa=showPosts

[Chang Hum]

I hope I'm wrong and missing something here, after all there's no way so many people would not be stupid enough to place a bet on the wording of a thread that's never existed!?

[smoothie]

I hope I'm wrong and missing something here, after all there's no way so many people would not be stupid enough to place a bet on the wording of a thread that's never existed!?

IT has already been confirmed that Matthew was talking about Pirate's main BTCST thread.

[Draino]

i hope this wasn't some sick way to fizzle out the last remaining torch & pitchfork mentality away from pirate's victims

[Chang Hum]

i hope this wasn't some sick way to fizzle out the last remaining torch & pitchfork mentality away from pirate's victims

considering $5 1/2 millions gone missing from peoples pockets here everyone's been a bit quiet about it since this bet!

Just found this looking for the BTCST thread and thought it was funny!

It's times like this that I am thankful that BTCS&T Accounts are by referral ONLY.....and you can bet that after many of us have had to sit here and read this bullshit day after day with envious people spreading FUD because they couldn't get on the 'Pirate Train' early on....that NO ONE will be inviting any new people to jump on it now or any time soon.

Pirate, I for one want to say THANKS.

I know I have said it before, but there's no point in me being shy about in this thread.

THANKS for EVERYTHING.
bitlane.

Thank you.

[smoothie]

i hope this wasn't some sick way to fizzle out the last remaining torch & pitchfork mentality away from pirate's victims

considering $5 1/2 millions gone missing from peoples pockets here everyone's been a bit quiet about it since this bet!

Just found this looking for the BTCST thread and thought it was funny!

It's times like this that I am thankful that BTCS&T Accounts are by referral ONLY.....and you can bet that after many of us have had to sit here and read this bullshit day after day with envious people spreading FUD because they couldn't get on the 'Pirate Train' early on....that NO ONE will be inviting any new people to jump on it now or any time soon.

Pirate, I for one want to say THANKS.

I know I have said it before, but there's no point in me being shy about in this thread.

THANKS for EVERYTHING.
bitlane.

Thank you.

Wow Bitlane, just wow...

[Shadow383]

It's times like this that I am thankful that BTCS&T Accounts are by referral ONLY.....and you can bet that after many of us have had to sit here and read this bullshit day after day with envious people spreading FUD because they couldn't get on the 'Pirate Train' early on....that NO ONE will be inviting any new people to jump on it now or any time soon.

Pirate, I for one want to say THANKS.

I know I have said it before, but there's no point in me being shy about in this thread.

THANKS for EVERYTHING.
bitlane.

Hah, bitlane you retard 

[smoothie]

THANKS for EVERYTHING.
bitlane.

likewise, thanks, and +1 for weighing in on this:

coins are coins regardless of where they come from

There it is clear as day. He didnt care who gave him the coins. As long as they had value to exchange for.

[Chang Hum]

So Matthew was pretty vocal calling out BTCST as a likely scam, I'm really confused now because he's also stated that the purpose of this bet is to teach people who called it out as a scam a lesson for making assumptions without evidence to back it up :s

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50822.320

I'm still struggling to find the thread and comments from pirateat40 that this bet is based on, can someone link me please?

[smoothie]

So Matthew was pretty vocal calling out BTCST as a likely scam, I'm really confused now because he's also stated that the purpose of this bet is to teach people who called it out as a scam a lesson for making assumptions without evidence to back it up :s

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50822.320

I'm still struggling to find the thread and comments from pirateat40 that this bet is based on, can someone link me please?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50822.0

[556j]

So Matthew was pretty vocal calling out BTCST as a likely scam, I'm really confused now because he's also stated that the purpose of this bet is to teach people who called it out as a scam a lesson for making assumptions without evidence to back it up :s

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50822.320

I'm still struggling to find the thread and comments from pirateat40 that this bet is based on, can someone link me please?

His thing was "people shouldn't say it's a scam without knowing the facts" so

Pirate is a scam = Wrong
Pirate is likely a scam = OK
Pirates business model looks questionable, please provide more insight into how you produce these returns = Ideal

That's how I understood his side of things originally. Now I'm convinced he has some type(s) of mental illness.

[smoothie]

So Matthew was pretty vocal calling out BTCST as a likely scam, I'm really confused now because he's also stated that the purpose of this bet is to teach people who called it out as a scam a lesson for making assumptions without evidence to back it up :s

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50822.320

I'm still struggling to find the thread and comments from pirateat40 that this bet is based on, can someone link me please?

I dont see where he says it's a scam.

[Chang Hum]

So Matthew was pretty vocal calling out BTCST as a likely scam, I'm really confused now because he's also stated that the purpose of this bet is to teach people who called it out as a scam a lesson for making assumptions without evidence to back it up :s

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50822.320

I'm still struggling to find the thread and comments from pirateat40 that this bet is based on, can someone link me please?

I dont see where he says it's a scam.

It's politely worded, but he says he thinks it will end badly and it doesn't make sense. I interpret that as him thinking it's likely a scam.

Edit: as per 556j's comments I do appreciate there's a difference between directly saying something and implying it.

[P4man]

His thing was "people shouldn't say it's a scam without knowing the facts" so

Pirate is a scam = Wrong
Pirate is likely a scam = OK
Pirates business model looks questionable, please provide more insight into how you produce these returns = Ideal

So how is he teaching us anything? People said Pirate was a ponzi because there was no shred of evidence to the contrary (no credible profit generator etc). People said Matthew wasnt going pay because there was no shred of evidence he had either the means or the willingness to pay (nonsensical bet, no escrow, no proof of ownership etc).

If he wont pay, whats the lesson? If anything he would be proving the opposite of what he claims to want to teach us.