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Reading through this gives a list of stupid people to forever ignore. |
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Reading through this gives a list of stupid people to forever ignore. Maybe.. For all we know, Pirate could have had him post that to get a reading on community sentiment... |
If you're not excited by the idea of being an early adopter 'now', then you should come back in three or four years and either tell us "Told you it'd never work!" or join what should, by then, be a much more stable and easier-to-use system.
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It is being worked on by smart people. -DamienBlack
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Was already shown the coins didn't move enough to be laundering scheme. It's really sad how far people will go to try and argue they weren't actually tricked into a ponzi. Not to mention the fact that for someone that knew as much as pirate about btc it was worth the risk to invest in own business and have some faith in btc. As the interest loss would be > than volatility. I know bitlane has nothing better to do with his life than post on forums but the rest of you are better than this. Accept you got fucked in the ass, learn your lesson and move on. This is a sad show to witness.
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Was already shown the coins didn't move enough to be laundering scheme. It's really sad how far people will go to try and argue they weren't actually tricked into a ponzi. Not to mention the fact that for someone that knew as much as pirate about btc it was worth the risk to invest in own business and have some faith in btc. As the interest loss would be > than volatility. I know bitlane has nothing better to do with his life than post on forums but the rest of you are better than this. Accept you got fucked in the ass, learn your lesson and move on. This is a sad show to witness.
If you read the BS&T thread from the beginning, pirate went to a great deal of trouble to create the impression that he was money laundering (even talking about how after he'd been paid in cash by his clients he didn't transfer the BTC until he was "out of harm's way"). Whether he was actually doing it or not, it was a good way to both deflect questions about his clients and their business and to create an explanation for how he was able to offer high returns. He told people what they wanted to hear. |
All I can say is that this is Bitcoin. I don't believe it until I see six confirmations.
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Who are you speaking to, 556j? No one in quite a few posts in this thread has said anything to the contrary. And some of us just like to theorize, and that often means exploring all possibilties, even the ones that might support legitimacy...
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If you're not excited by the idea of being an early adopter 'now', then you should come back in three or four years and either tell us "Told you it'd never work!" or join what should, by then, be a much more stable and easier-to-use system.
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September 01, 2012, 09:48:09 PM |
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Accept you got fucked in the ass Getting fucked in the ass would be a kindness. In reality, they got fucked in the ass with a jagged two by four lined with rusty nails! |
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September 02, 2012, 12:11:42 AM |
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Getting fucked in the ass would be a kindness.
In reality, they got fucked in the ass with a jagged two by four lined with rusty nails!
Unfortunately, there's a lot of "they's" these days. "They" line up to get fucked, and "they" scream LOUD on the forum after they're fucked. Even BTC'ers who lost nothing in one scam or another scream LOUD after "they" get fucked. Ultimately, this scares away BTC adoption by legitimate new businesses who come here looking for answers on how they might profit from accepting BTC. Sad. I wish the bitcoin community would shift it's focus away from the zero-sum game of trading BTC for fiat gambling in favor of working on vendor adoption. If you have enough people exchanging BTC for REAL goods and services, all the financial scam drama that so regularly occurs here would fade into insignificance. But that requires work, and people are lazy.  |
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Getting fucked in the ass would be a kindness.
In reality, they got fucked in the ass with a jagged two by four lined with rusty nails!
I wish the bitcoin community would shift it's focus away from the zero-sum game of trading BTC for fiat gambling in favor of working on vendor adoption. If you have enough people exchanging BTC for REAL goods and services, all the financial scam drama that so regularly occurs here would fade into insignificance. But that requires work, and people are lazy. But everyone liked 3400% interest ......we were all going to be millionaires in just a few months  |
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September 02, 2012, 12:38:04 AM |
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Ultimately, this scares away BTC adoption by legitimate new businesses who come here looking for answers on how they might profit from accepting BTC. Sad.
What are you doing the help BTC economy beside forum hero? Every single day I am trading goods and services for BTC. I have literally lived off bitcons for over a year. I haven't gotten any USD paycheck since college which was many years ago. Yes you can post on forums with ideals that are baselsss. But really what do you know? Let me tell you. People that do business with btc don't give a shit about idiots that "invest" in 7% a week ponzis or the current exchange rate. Is there someone that trades USD/EUR/GBP fir BTC? If yes then bitcoin is fine. Cry elsewhere. |
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hmm " we know that even people who don't have a relationship with us are using it to launder." "Pirate is a nice guy at heart, but he does business with some ugly people who I don't want coming back to me." My bet is that it is Nakaska Sounds like some dangerous territory... His last post was: You Can Quit But You Can't Give Up http://bit.ly/tT9RkZThe bit.ly address is http://bryce.vc/post/13198157725/you-can-quit-but-you-cant-give-upThe author of post: I co-founded O'Reilly AlphaTech Ventures (OATV) with my partners Tim O'Reilly and Mark Jacobsen. I invest in things most VCs won't. I don't wear blue shirts and khakis. I work in the city and live in the sticks. I own more bikes than cars and more skis than bikes. I have a wife and 5 kids that my world revolves around. http://oatv.com/Seed stage investing sits between angels (who tend to commit $10k to $100k per company) and traditional venture capital ($3-$5M Series A investing along with the occasional Series B-D round). Head on over to the above to read more, but back to Nakaska's Twitter account. I touched on this before, but possibly effed-up with that AMD stuff. Once again, I bring to your attention Intellinerds, but this time I followed the links (plural). http://blog.intellinerds.com/post/3437693856/tripdiv-launchWhen you click on TripDiv you arrive at (I want a BlowBob for this) https://mining.demo.nakaska.com/GMUMAX
Be one of the first to experience the easiest way to buy and sell shares. Enter your email below to get notified when there are beta invites available. http://www.webboar.com/www/intellinerds.com~Bruno~ SOB! Right back to BusCog: http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=69812266&authType=OUT_OF_NETWORK&authToken=zAt9&trk=hb_upphoto |
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hmm " we know that even people who don't have a relationship with us are using it to launder." "Pirate is a nice guy at heart, but he does business with some ugly people who I don't want coming back to me." My bet is that it is Nakaska Sounds like some dangerous territory... His last post was: You Can Quit But You Can't Give Up http://bit.ly/tT9RkZThe bit.ly address is http://bryce.vc/post/13198157725/you-can-quit-but-you-cant-give-upThe author of post: I co-founded O'Reilly AlphaTech Ventures (OATV) with my partners Tim O'Reilly and Mark Jacobsen. I invest in things most VCs won't. I don't wear blue shirts and khakis. I work in the city and live in the sticks. I own more bikes than cars and more skis than bikes. I have a wife and 5 kids that my world revolves around. http://oatv.com/Seed stage investing sits between angels (who tend to commit $10k to $100k per company) and traditional venture capital ($3-$5M Series A investing along with the occasional Series B-D round). Head on over to the above to read more, but back to Nakaska's Twitter account. I touched on this before, but possibly effed-up with that AMD stuff. Once again, I bring to your attention Intellinerds, but this time I followed the links (plural). http://blog.intellinerds.com/post/3437693856/tripdiv-launchWhen you click on TripDiv you arrive at (I want a BlowBob for this) https://mining.demo.nakaska.com/GMUMAX
Be one of the first to experience the easiest way to buy and sell shares. Enter your email below to get notified when there are beta invites available. http://www.webboar.com/www/intellinerds.com~Bruno~ wtf! |
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September 02, 2012, 07:46:49 AM |
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hmm " we know that even people who don't have a relationship with us are using it to launder." "Pirate is a nice guy at heart, but he does business with some ugly people who I don't want coming back to me." My bet is that it is Nakaska Sounds like some dangerous territory... His last post was: You Can Quit But You Can't Give Up http://bit.ly/tT9RkZThe bit.ly address is http://bryce.vc/post/13198157725/you-can-quit-but-you-cant-give-upThe author of post: I co-founded O'Reilly AlphaTech Ventures (OATV) with my partners Tim O'Reilly and Mark Jacobsen. I invest in things most VCs won't. I don't wear blue shirts and khakis. I work in the city and live in the sticks. I own more bikes than cars and more skis than bikes. I have a wife and 5 kids that my world revolves around. http://oatv.com/Seed stage investing sits between angels (who tend to commit $10k to $100k per company) and traditional venture capital ($3-$5M Series A investing along with the occasional Series B-D round). Head on over to the above to read more, but back to Nakaska's Twitter account. I touched on this before, but possibly effed-up with that AMD stuff. Once again, I bring to your attention Intellinerds, but this time I followed the links (plural). http://blog.intellinerds.com/post/3437693856/tripdiv-launchWhen you click on TripDiv you arrive at (I want a BlowBob for this) https://mining.demo.nakaska.com/GMUMAX
Be one of the first to experience the easiest way to buy and sell shares. Enter your email below to get notified when there are beta invites available. ~Bruno~ You've lost me Phin. We already know that Zach Nakasa is one of the active officers of GPUMax, we didn't need the Twitter posts to establish that - it's part of the public record. I'm not sure whether the true identity of ninjaat40 matters (although my best guess would be his brother Rylan - the family seems to be well established and would have more reason than anyone else to not want Trendon's activities coming back on them and would know about any change in his spending habits). Either the people who are really pissed off about pirate's scheme collapsing will report it to the US Attorney's Office (they seem to be the people who investigate and prosecute ponzis) and IRS and they'll ferret out any shady connections, or people will just gnash their teeth over this for a while before eventually moving on. To be honest, I doubt that many people who lost money to pirate want his activities properly investigated - which means that what he was really doing and with whom will likely remain a mystery. |
All I can say is that this is Bitcoin. I don't believe it until I see six confirmations.
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hmm " we know that even people who don't have a relationship with us are using it to launder." "Pirate is a nice guy at heart, but he does business with some ugly people who I don't want coming back to me." My bet is that it is Nakaska Sounds like some dangerous territory... His last post was: You Can Quit But You Can't Give Up http://bit.ly/tT9RkZThe bit.ly address is http://bryce.vc/post/13198157725/you-can-quit-but-you-cant-give-upThe author of post: I co-founded O'Reilly AlphaTech Ventures (OATV) with my partners Tim O'Reilly and Mark Jacobsen. I invest in things most VCs won't. I don't wear blue shirts and khakis. I work in the city and live in the sticks. I own more bikes than cars and more skis than bikes. I have a wife and 5 kids that my world revolves around. http://oatv.com/Seed stage investing sits between angels (who tend to commit $10k to $100k per company) and traditional venture capital ($3-$5M Series A investing along with the occasional Series B-D round). Head on over to the above to read more, but back to Nakaska's Twitter account. I touched on this before, but possibly effed-up with that AMD stuff. Once again, I bring to your attention Intellinerds, but this time I followed the links (plural). http://blog.intellinerds.com/post/3437693856/tripdiv-launchWhen you click on TripDiv you arrive at (I want a BlowBob for this) https://mining.demo.nakaska.com/GMUMAX
Be one of the first to experience the easiest way to buy and sell shares. Enter your email below to get notified when there are beta invites available. ~Bruno~ You've lost me Phin. We already know that Zach Nakasa is one of the active officers of GPUMax, we didn't need the Twitter posts to establish that - it's part of the public record. I'm not sure whether the true identity of ninjaat40 matters (although my best guess would be his brother Rylan - the family seems to be well established and would have more reason than anyone else to not want Trendon's activities coming back on them and would know about any change in his spending habits). Either the people who are really pissed off about pirate's scheme collapsing will report it to the US Attorney's Office (they seem to be the people who investigate and prosecute ponzis) and IRS and they'll ferret out any shady connections, or people will just gnash their teeth over this for a while before eventually moving on. To be honest, I doubt that many people who lost money to pirate want his activities properly investigated - which means that what he was really doing and with whom will likely remain a mystery. I expect nothing to come of it as has happened with all previous scams of this magnitude. |
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September 02, 2012, 08:11:18 AM |
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You've lost me Phin. We already know that Zach Nakasa is one of the active officers of GPUMax, we didn't need the Twitter posts to establish that - it's part of the public record. Exactly, for I was the one who first bought light to him. Since he's the closest to Pirate that we can get at the moment, I felt it important to see if we can nail down this guys location. From http://edge.dev.box.sk/newsread.php?newsid=275 we learn that he does have control of nakasa.com Domain Name.......... nakasa.com Creation Date........ 2000-03-07 Registration Date.... 2007-05-05 Expiry Date.......... 2013-03-07 Organisation Name.... Nakasa co.,lid Organisation Address. Haiduka Organisation Address. 3-8-22 Organisation Address. Organisation Address. Daito-city Organisation Address. 574-0043 Organisation Address. Osaka Organisation Address. JAPAN Admin Name........... Dep. VDNS Admin Address........ Yaesu Admin Address........ 2-8-1 Admin Address........ Nittobo Bldg. 13F Admin Address. Chuo-ku Admin Address........ 104-0028 Admin Address........ Tokyo Admin Address........ JAPAN Admin Email.......... nsi-dns@verisign.co.jpAdmin Phone.......... +81.332717014 Admin Fax............ +81.332717029 Tech Name............ ALPHA-MAIL Service Tech Address......... Iidabashi Tech Address......... 2-18-4 Tech Address......... 7F OTSUKA Bldg. Tech Address......... Chiyoda-ku Tech Address......... 102-8573 Tech Address......... Tokyo Tech Address......... JAPAN Tech Email........... internic@alpha-web.jpTech Phone........... +81.335147708 Tech Fax............. +81.335147712 Name Server.......... TSUKUBA.AICS.NE.JP Name Server.......... KOTETSU.ALPHA-LT.NET Registrar: MELBOURNE IT, LTD. D/B/A INTERNET NAMES WORLDWIDE Whois Server: whois.melbourneit.com Creation Date: 07-MAR-2000 Updated Date: 01-MAR-2012 Expiration Date: 07-MAR-2013 Nameserver: KOTETSU.ALPHA-LT.NET Nameserver: TSUKUBA.AICS.NE.JP ~Bruno~ |
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Yes, in the end, if any theft takes place, or all funds are not paid as agreed to in Pirate's original agreement with Lenders, Zach Nakasa is implicated simply due to Trendon's admission of 'wallet-sharing' between GPUMAX and BTCST, which although he cites for 'security reasons'....we can clearly show that BTCST Deposits were used to pay GPUMAX miners, of which Zach Nakasa is a partner in.
Great stuff.
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You've lost me Phin. We already know that Zach Nakasa is one of the active officers of GPUMax, we didn't need the Twitter posts to establish that - it's part of the public record. Exactly, for I was the one who first bought light to him. Since he's the closest to Pirate that we can get at the moment, I felt it important to see if we can nail down this guys location. From http://edge.dev.box.sk/newsread.php?newsid=275 we learn that he does have control of nakasa.com Domain Name.......... nakasa.com Creation Date........ 2000-03-07 Registration Date.... 2007-05-05 Expiry Date.......... 2013-03-07 Organisation Name.... Nakasa co.,lid Organisation Address. Haiduka Organisation Address. 3-8-22 Organisation Address. Organisation Address. Daito-city Organisation Address. 574-0043 Organisation Address. Osaka Organisation Address. JAPAN Admin Name........... Dep. VDNS Admin Address........ Yaesu Admin Address........ 2-8-1 Admin Address........ Nittobo Bldg. 13F Admin Address. Chuo-ku Admin Address........ 104-0028 Admin Address........ Tokyo Admin Address........ JAPAN Admin Email.......... nsi-dns@verisign.co.jpAdmin Phone.......... +81.332717014 Admin Fax............ +81.332717029 Tech Name............ ALPHA-MAIL Service Tech Address......... Iidabashi Tech Address......... 2-18-4 Tech Address......... 7F OTSUKA Bldg. Tech Address......... Chiyoda-ku Tech Address......... 102-8573 Tech Address......... Tokyo Tech Address......... JAPAN Tech Email........... internic@alpha-web.jpTech Phone........... +81.335147708 Tech Fax............. +81.335147712 Name Server.......... TSUKUBA.AICS.NE.JP Name Server.......... KOTETSU.ALPHA-LT.NET Registrar: MELBOURNE IT, LTD. D/B/A INTERNET NAMES WORLDWIDE Whois Server: whois.melbourneit.com Creation Date: 07-MAR-2000 Updated Date: 01-MAR-2012 Expiration Date: 07-MAR-2013 Nameserver: KOTETSU.ALPHA-LT.NET Nameserver: TSUKUBA.AICS.NE.JP ~Bruno~ Its nakaska.com Registrant: Zach Nakaska 6601 W Plano Pkwy Plano, TX 75093 United States Registered through: GoDaddy.com, LLC ( http://www.godaddy.com) Domain Name: NAKASKA.COM Created on: 28-Dec-08 Expires on: 28-Dec-13 Last Updated on: 08-Mar-10 Administrative Contact: Nakaska, Zach nakaska@gmail.com 6601 W Plano Pkwy Plano, TX 75093 United States +1.4323494476 Technical Contact: Nakaska, Zach nakaska@gmail.com 6601 W Plano Pkwy Plano, TX 75093 United States +1.4323494476 Domain servers in listed order: NS61.DOMAINCONTROL.COM NS62.DOMAINCONTROL.COM |
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September 02, 2012, 08:25:10 AM |
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Now how the hell did I leave off an S when I was copy&pasting? At any rate, I would have had the same thing if I did the search correctly.
Anybody in for a road trip to Plano, TX?
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Now how the hell did I leave off an S when I was copy&pasting? At any rate, I would have had the same thing if I did the search correctly.
Anybody in for a road trip to Plano, TX?
~Bruno~
Setup a bitcoin meetup in plano  |
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September 02, 2012, 08:39:14 AM
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Now how the hell did I leave off an S when I was copy&pasting? At any rate, I would have had the same thing if I did the search correctly.
Anybody in for a road trip to Plano, TX?
~Bruno~
Setup a bitcoin meetup in plano Or contact his ex-schoolmates: http://www.midlandisd.net/Page/11090That makes him about 30-years-old. From his Twitter account: Zach Nakaska @nakaska
You'd think #tumblr would use some of that $5M investment and invest in a scalable infrastructure. ~Bruno~ |
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