Vod making false accusations about me | Providing proof for Mod or admin

[Skyenet]

Hey guy so I started a shop which all my services has been great and not a single complaint. All the people who bought from me was legit.

Vod comes alongs and makes claims that I "Stole accounts and sold keys" which I can clearly provide proof to moderators or an admin. He has been making this BOLD statment without ANY proof whatsoever and I would like to provide proof to a moderator or an admin that I actually own the MSDN account under my name.

I would post the proof for public but I don't like to have my personal info on the internet for all these people so I will show staff. How did I obtain MSDN? I am a developer for a software and I am a part of a team that works on a development for a game that is Published by Adult Swim and it lead to my access to MSDN (You apply for it and MSDN chooses to approve you)

I am just getting sick and tired of him making claims I am using hacked accounts. He has never shown proof and keeps avoiding my replies back to him..all he does is try to backfire at it and tell me to show etc.

If there is any Moderator or Admin Can you please contact me to verify all this shit. After this is post I will be private messaging mods and admins.

I just thought I should post this because Vod makes false claims without providing proof. Just because people are obtaining MSDN in another way that I don't know of he seems to think I am doing the same thing. He always thinks he is right and I would just like to prove it to staff.

He also claims I sell stolen keys and I don't offer refunds as that makes me a scammer..but wait?
 

• Where did I say no refunds? WTF? I have offered refunds...
• Again says they are stolen? Proof please?

Staff I have contacted and awaiting reply:

• theymos
• Stefan Thomas
• BadBear

[Vod]

It's up to you as the seller to prove your stolen keys are not stolen.

Good on you for taking the first step!   

Let's make sure this thread gets resolved and doesn't fade into oblivion, as all of these do.

[Vod]

Hey guy so I started a shop which all my services has been great and not a single complaint. All the people who bought from me was legit.

Vod comes alongs and makes claims that I "Stole accounts and sold keys" which I can clearly provide proof to moderators or an admin. He has been making this BOLD statment without ANY proof whatsoever and I would like to provide proof to a moderator or an admin that I actually own the MSDN account under my name.

I would post the proof for public but I don't like to have my personal info on the internet for all these people so I will show staff. How did I obtain MSDN? I am a developer for a software and I am a part of a team that works on a development for a game that is Published by Adult Swim and it lead to my access to MSDN (You apply for it and MSDN chooses to approve you)

I am just getting sick and tired of him making claims I am using hacked accounts. He has never shown proof and keeps avoiding my replies back to him..all he does is try to backfire at it and tell me to show etc.

If there is any Moderator or Admin Can you please contact me to verify all this shit. After this is post I will be private messaging mods and admins.

I just thought I should post this because Vod makes false claims without providing proof. Just because people are obtaining MSDN in another way that I don't know of he seems to think I am doing the same thing. He always thinks he is right and I would just like to prove it to staff.

He also claims I sell stolen keys and I don't offer refunds as that makes me a scammer..but wait?
 

• Where did I say no refunds? WTF? I have offered refunds...
• Again says they are stolen? Proof please?

Staff I have contacted and awaiting reply:

• theymos
• Stefan Thomas
• BadBear

Just quoting the admission he is stealing these keys from Adult Swim.

[Skyenet]

Hey guy so I started a shop which all my services has been great and not a single complaint. All the people who bought from me was legit.

Vod comes alongs and makes claims that I "Stole accounts and sold keys" which I can clearly provide proof to moderators or an admin. He has been making this BOLD statment without ANY proof whatsoever and I would like to provide proof to a moderator or an admin that I actually own the MSDN account under my name.

I would post the proof for public but I don't like to have my personal info on the internet for all these people so I will show staff. How did I obtain MSDN? I am a developer for a software and I am a part of a team that works on a development for a game that is Published by Adult Swim and it lead to my access to MSDN (You apply for it and MSDN chooses to approve you)

I am just getting sick and tired of him making claims I am using hacked accounts. He has never shown proof and keeps avoiding my replies back to him..all he does is try to backfire at it and tell me to show etc.

If there is any Moderator or Admin Can you please contact me to verify all this shit. After this is post I will be private messaging mods and admins.

I just thought I should post this because Vod makes false claims without providing proof. Just because people are obtaining MSDN in another way that I don't know of he seems to think I am doing the same thing. He always thinks he is right and I would just like to prove it to staff.

He also claims I sell stolen keys and I don't offer refunds as that makes me a scammer..but wait?
 

• Where did I say no refunds? WTF? I have offered refunds...
• Again says they are stolen? Proof please?

Staff I have contacted and awaiting reply:

• theymos
• Stefan Thomas
• BadBear

Just quoting the admission he is stealing these keys from Adult Swim.

Lol wth? How am I stealing from Adult Swim...got you are dumb...

[Vod]

Lol wth? How am I stealing from Adult Swim...got you are dumb...

Hmmm, aren't those keys assigned to the enterprise account of Adult Swim, for their developmental use only?

Aren't you, as an employee/volunteer stealing these keys for profit for your own personal use?  (Assuming you are telling the truth, that is!)

[Skyenet]

Lol wth? How am I stealing from Adult Swim...got you are dumb...

Hmmm, aren't those keys assigned to the enterprise account of Adult Swim, for their developmental use only?

Aren't you, as an employee/volunteer stealing these keys for profit for your own personal use?  (Assuming you are telling the truth, that is!)

Now I see why you are always wrong. When did I say the MSDN was from Adult Swim? I said I was given access to MSDN because of my experience with Adult Swim and the reference. Nowhere did I say it was given for Adult swim..people like you need to learn to read.

[smooth]

OP, do you have a valid MSDN membership in your name or not?

[Skyenet]

OP, do you have a valid MSDN membership in your name or not?

Yes it is in my name.

[Vod]

Lol wth? How am I stealing from Adult Swim...got you are dumb...

Hmmm, aren't those keys assigned to the enterprise account of Adult Swim, for their developmental use only?

Aren't you, as an employee/volunteer stealing these keys for profit for your own personal use?  (Assuming you are telling the truth, that is!)

Now I see why you are always wrong. When did I say the MSDN was from Adult Swim? I said I was given access to MSDN because of my experience with Adult Swim and the reference. Nowhere did I say it was given for Adult swim..people like you need to learn to read.

I doubt you have the intelligence to work for Adult Swim.  It's far more likely you have a family member or friend feeding you these stolen keys - hence your need to "restock" every now and then.   

[smooth]

OP, do you have a valid MSDN membership in your name or not?

Yes it is in my name.

The other question I asked on your thread, which is whether you are claiming that the purchaser gets a valid license to the product. If you don't claim that, then at least you are being honest about what you are selling. You're likely breaking your MSDN agreement, and that's not quite upstanding, but its not as bad as doing that and misrepresenting to the buyers what they are buying.

[Skyenet]

OP, do you have a valid MSDN membership in your name or not?

Yes it is in my name.

The other question I asked on your thread, which is whether you are claiming that the purchaser gets a valid license to the product. If you don't claim that, then at least you are being honest about what you are selling. You're likely breaking your MSDN agreement, and that's not quite upstanding, but its not as bad as doing that and misrepresenting to the buyers what they are buying.

Now we have someone who actually have real questions.

They will be obtaining a valid license of the product. I have always provided my customers with all answers they needed

[Vod]

OP, do you have a valid MSDN membership in your name or not?

Yes it is in my name.

The other question I asked on your thread, which is whether you are claiming that the purchaser gets a valid license to the product. If you don't claim that, then at least you are being honest about what you are selling. You're likely breaking your MSDN agreement, and that's not quite upstanding, but its not as bad as doing that and misrepresenting to the buyers what they are buying.

Now we have someone who actually have real questions.

They will be obtaining a valid license of the product. I have always provided my customers with all answers they needed

Well, let's just see if you can provide the admin with a valid receipt showing your valid purchase of the MSDN license.

Because otherwise, like all the other scammers, you are stealing from corporate licenses that do not belong to you.  

I will wait.

[Skyenet]

OP, do you have a valid MSDN membership in your name or not?

Yes it is in my name.

The other question I asked on your thread, which is whether you are claiming that the purchaser gets a valid license to the product. If you don't claim that, then at least you are being honest about what you are selling. You're likely breaking your MSDN agreement, and that's not quite upstanding, but its not as bad as doing that and misrepresenting to the buyers what they are buying.

Now we have someone who actually have real questions.

They will be obtaining a valid license of the product. I have always provided my customers with all answers they needed

Well, let's just see if you can provide the admin with a valid receipt showing your valid purchase of the MSDN license.

Because otherwise, like all the other scammers, you are stealing from corporate licenses that do not belong to you.  

I will wait.

lol again you cant read. I am just going to ignore your comments. You clearly don't know what you are talking about.

[Vod]

OP, do you have a valid MSDN membership in your name or not?

Yes it is in my name.

The other question I asked on your thread, which is whether you are claiming that the purchaser gets a valid license to the product. If you don't claim that, then at least you are being honest about what you are selling. You're likely breaking your MSDN agreement, and that's not quite upstanding, but its not as bad as doing that and misrepresenting to the buyers what they are buying.

Now we have someone who actually have real questions.

They will be obtaining a valid license of the product. I have always provided my customers with all answers they needed

Well, let's just see if you can provide the admin with a valid receipt showing your valid purchase of the MSDN license.

Because otherwise, like all the other scammers, you are stealing from corporate licenses that do not belong to you.  

I will wait.

lol again you cant read. I am just going to ignore your comments. You clearly don't know what you are talking about.

I will wait... 

[XinXan]

OP, do you have a valid MSDN membership in your name or not?

Yes it is in my name.

The other question I asked on your thread, which is whether you are claiming that the purchaser gets a valid license to the product. If you don't claim that, then at least you are being honest about what you are selling. You're likely breaking your MSDN agreement, and that's not quite upstanding, but its not as bad as doing that and misrepresenting to the buyers what they are buying.

Now we have someone who actually have real questions.

They will be obtaining a valid license of the product. I have always provided my customers with all answers they needed

Well, let's just see if you can provide the admin with a valid receipt showing your valid purchase of the MSDN license.

Because otherwise, like all the other scammers, you are stealing from corporate licenses that do not belong to you.  

I will wait.

lol again you cant read. I am just going to ignore your comments. You clearly don't know what you are talking about.

That doesnt seem like a good argument to me and only makes you look like a scammer honestly, ive been following this threads and they all end up being the same, the OP doesnt provide any kind of proof, evidence or whatever to prove he is legit. And for the record, just because your clients are satisfied doesnt mean anything, i could go and buy a stolen tv for 10$ and i would be satisfied, of course i would.

[smooth]

He does disclose on his thread they are MSDN licenses. Most people should know those are not entirely legit and have risks, so I can't really say he's misrepresenting anything. I guess some people might not know about the MSDN rules, and I asked him to disclose that in the FAQ on his offer and he said he would (but hasn't done so yet).

He claims he has an MSDN subscription, so he's not stealing someone else's MSDN keys. Maybe true, maybe not. But how do we know?

As long as he goes ahead and makes full and clear disclosure to the buyers, I don't really see scamming personally, I think MSDN rules are between him, Microsoft, and the buyers. On the other hand, I can certainly see interpreting it another way -- someone violating his microsoft contract is arguably scamming on that basis alone. I don't see anything on the trust page or elsewhere that says the scamming being reported, if truthful, has to involve scamming other forum members. So I don't really see a "false accusation" here either. Seems like a valid opinion.

[Vod]

He claims he has an MSDN subscription, so he's not stealing someone else's MSDN keys. Maybe true, maybe not. But how do we know?

He can show his valid receipt to the admins.  That's the entire reason he made this thread - to prove to the admins he is legit without revealing personal information.

Of course we all know he won't/can't.   

[Skyenet]

He claims he has an MSDN subscription, so he's not stealing someone else's MSDN keys. Maybe true, maybe not. But how do we know?

He can show his valid receipt to the admins.  That's the entire reason he made this thread - to prove to the admins he is legit without revealing personal information.

Of course we all know he won't/can't.   

show my pm to admins?

[ABitNut]

OP, do you have a valid MSDN membership in your name or not?

Yes it is in my name.

The other question I asked on your thread, which is whether you are claiming that the purchaser gets a valid license to the product. If you don't claim that, then at least you are being honest about what you are selling. You're likely breaking your MSDN agreement, and that's not quite upstanding, but its not as bad as doing that and misrepresenting to the buyers what they are buying.

Now we have someone who actually have real questions.

They will be obtaining a valid license of the product. I have always provided my customers with all answers they needed

In your sales thread you offer product keys. Product keys are not a license to use the software. So if you're providing license could you possibly show some proof of a license?

[mrcashking]

It is not false accusations when you steal a product and try to sell them is it!? What has meta turned into hate on Vod and Quickseller section it would be funny if it was people with half a brain doing it.

Back to topic if your thread where you was selling these keys was so good and no complaints how does one person ruin that for you? After all it was all legit so a bit of fud would not matter would it lol

You receiving a product that I am sure tells you on the terms of service not to sell on and as a so called developer you should really stick to the TS shouldn't you. This poor place