[ANN] SpreadCoin | Decentralize Everything (decentralized blockexplorer coming)

[e1ghtSpace]

I am gonna release a new updated wallet soon, with new DNS seed, and updated list of seed nodes,
and new alert key.

So, who here is running a full spreadcoin node?

And how many connections do you on average get?

Mine has about 50 connections ATM.

I'm happy to run a full SPR node.  How do I do it?

1) You need a server with static IP (D'uh)
 

Are you sure about that?
Because I have a dynamic ip and if I leave my computer on all day I get 100+ connections. Keep in mind this was back when Mr. Spread was around.

[georgem]

I am gonna release a new updated wallet soon, with new DNS seed, and updated list of seed nodes,
and new alert key.

So, who here is running a full spreadcoin node?

And how many connections do you on average get?

Mine has about 50 connections ATM.

I'm happy to run a full SPR node.  How do I do it?

1) You need a server with static IP (D'uh)
 

Are you sure about that?
Because I have a dynamic ip and if I leave my computer on all day I get 100+ connections. Keep in mind this was back when Mr. Spread was around.

Well, if you want your spreadcoin full node to go hardcoded in the next wallet I release (as a seeder node) then I NEED it to be a static ip.
I was not talking about servicenodes ...

[georgem]

You should also tell georgem your email address (only the ending @xxxxx.xxx)

You are right, I informed him about that.

Anyway, maybe a little bit too much effort put in for a 1 post guy from russia.  

[georgem]

Looks like the spam filters are either working, or working too well. Sounds like the latter.

I think it works perfect now.

I prefer working too well over not good enough...  

ok, maybe 1 false positive (that guy) but in the last 24 hours we have prevented a whooping 720 (!) registrations and postings from happening.
Say the log files.

[coins101]

Been syncing for a few hours, gone from 7 to 17 connections.

Code:

{
"version" : 91504,
"protocolversion" : 70019,
"walletversion" : 60000,
"balance" : 820215.08398676,
"blocks" : 380782,
"timeoffset" : 0,
"connections" : 17,
"proxy" : "",
"difficulty" : 14.37477669,
"networkhashps" : 1116043155,
"moneysupply" : 2549741.55788166,
"testnet" : false,
"keypoololdest" : 1429366695,
"keypoolsize" : 101,
"paytxfee" : 0.00000000,
"mininput" : 0.00001000,
"errors" : ""
}

[pev5691]

Looks like the spam filters are either working, or working too well. Sounds like the latter.

Very similar to this, unless of course it is not sanctions against Russia.  

[georgem]

Looks like the spam filters are either working, or working too well. Sounds like the latter.

Very similar to this, unless of course it is not sanctions against Russia.  

Please try another email, maybe create a gmail account or something.

Sorry to be like that, but I am happy to not have the spam problem anymore. 

[pev5691]

I have two graphics cards R9 290 (XFX and Sapphire)
But they don't want to work with the mining SPR, although perfectly produce any X11, n-scrypt.
Spread-GPU-miner and spreadcoinx11-sgminer-girino behave exactly the same. The Assembly is the kernel (*.bin) and all. Stop.
All other video cards work fine with both miners. (HD7970, R9 270X, R9 280X)

[coins101]

I have two graphics cards R9 290 (XFX and Sapphire)
But they don't want to work with the mining SPR, although perfectly produce any X11, n-scrypt.
Spread-GPU-miner and spreadcoinx11-sgminer-girino behave exactly the same. The Assembly is the kernel (*.bin) and all. Stop.
All other video cards work fine with both miners. (HD7970, R9 270X, R9 280X)

I run an AMD r9 290 sapphire.

update to latest AMD drivers. Then try again.

can't help with xfx. never touched that flavour.

Follow the links to the youtube video for some help. There is also a link to AMD's auto driver check and download.

http://spreadcoin.info/downloads.php

[pev5691]

Looks like the spam filters are either working, or working too well. Sounds like the latter.

Very similar to this, unless of course it is not sanctions against Russia.  

Please try another email, maybe create a gmail account or something.

Sorry to be like that, but I am happy to not have the spam problem anymore. 

I already tried that one.
It seems that the ban on the IP.
I go to the forum, and once there all the same message.
No action, except you leave a page have no effect.

P.S. Just, accidentally went to http://spreadcoin.us and saw this page:
http://upload.akusherstvo.ru/image784693.png
horror
 

[pev5691]

I have two graphics cards R9 290 (XFX and Sapphire)
But they don't want to work with the mining SPR, although perfectly produce any X11, n-scrypt.
Spread-GPU-miner and spreadcoinx11-sgminer-girino behave exactly the same. The Assembly is the kernel (*.bin) and all. Stop.
All other video cards work fine with both miners. (HD7970, R9 270X, R9 280X)

I run an AMD r9 290 sapphire.

update to latest AMD drivers. Then try again.

can't help with xfx. never touched that flavour.

Follow the links to the youtube video for some help. There is also a link to AMD's auto driver check and download.

http://spreadcoin.info/downloads.php

Thanks for the tip, but with these problems I handle easily.
In this case, were used a farm, working on darkcoin, with the best settings and drivers for maximum performance.
Only changed the program-miner - "spreadminer".
HD7970, R9 270X, R9 280X - involved in work on the first try. But the R9 290 in two different system blocks stay with exactly the same errors.
Perhaps the reason is that I have Russian version of win7 Ultimate with Russian drivers.
There will be time, will try to collect from source miner directly for this machine, and while they may produce a different currency.

[coins101]

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Thanks for the tip, but with these problems I handle easily.
In this case, were used a farm, working on darkcoin, with the best settings and drivers for maximum performance.
Only changed the program-miner - "spreadminer".
HD7970, R9 270X, R9 280X - involved in work on the first try. But the R9 290 in two different system blocks stay with exactly the same errors.
Perhaps the reason is that I have Russian version of win7 Ultimate with Russian drivers.
There will be time, will try to collect from source miner directly for this machine, and while they may produce a different currency.

If you're a farmer, then you might want to check the github page.

https://github.com/spreadcoin-project/SpreadCoin-Wiki/wiki/Mining-Guide

Some of the links work, spreadcoin.info now has the latest links.

[AnotherNode]

I have two graphics cards R9 290 (XFX and Sapphire)
But they don't want to work with the mining SPR, although perfectly produce any X11, n-scrypt.
Spread-GPU-miner and spreadcoinx11-sgminer-girino behave exactly the same. The Assembly is the kernel (*.bin) and all. Stop.
All other video cards work fine with both miners. (HD7970, R9 270X, R9 280X)

no problems with 290 cards at my end.

whats your operating system?

[entropycoin]

The maximum number of service nodes at the moment is ~880 based on a coin supply of ~2,540,000.

This means that number 1 wallet would be able to run ~68 service nodes ( without worry about being dropped by the spread.  Interesting stuff.

68 full service/bitcoin nodes.  That would be a serious commitment to bandwidth bills

Interesting, what is the calculation that you made to come up with 68?

I was going by mental arithmetic so I'll show you my rough working from memory.  I apologise for the mental back of fag packet calculations!

Number 1 wallet has ~200k SPR

Current coin supply is ~2,500,000

Max number of snodes (coin supply/2880)= 868

Based on the false premise that every coin will be used in a servicenode (I have no data to guess how many coins will be in snodes):

Max coin supply / Max snodes = 2880SPR

Meaning that if I was the owner of #1 wallet and I wanted to guarantee that all of my service nodes were in the spread I'd load each node with  2800SPR which means that I'd be able to afford to fund roughly 68 snodes in this way.



EDIT:  Correcting price error

A quick check on AWS estimates that it would cost $3000pm to run the following:

68 x T2.micro
68 x 60GB magnetic volumes
13,600GB outbound traffic
1360GB inbound traffic (free anyway)

This means the #1 wallet holder would need to see about 130,000SPR per month (at current price) to break even)

goodness gracious, that's certainly cost prohibitive.  I was thinking a remote server in the range of $ 5 month/node would be borderline feasible but would need the price of spr to reach beyond .000205 to be profitable.

Since the primary objective is decentralization, why not tie cpu mining to spr's first reward service?  It would strengthen the network, be something anyone could jump into with little cost, wouldn't be too difficult to implement, and provide preliminary insight into how the competition dynamics will play out.   

[stonehedge]

The maximum number of service nodes at the moment is ~880 based on a coin supply of ~2,540,000.

This means that number 1 wallet would be able to run ~68 service nodes ( without worry about being dropped by the spread.  Interesting stuff.

68 full service/bitcoin nodes.  That would be a serious commitment to bandwidth bills

Interesting, what is the calculation that you made to come up with 68?

I was going by mental arithmetic so I'll show you my rough working from memory.  I apologise for the mental back of fag packet calculations!

Number 1 wallet has ~200k SPR

Current coin supply is ~2,500,000

Max number of snodes (coin supply/2880)= 868

Based on the false premise that every coin will be used in a servicenode (I have no data to guess how many coins will be in snodes):

Max coin supply / Max snodes = 2880SPR

Meaning that if I was the owner of #1 wallet and I wanted to guarantee that all of my service nodes were in the spread I'd load each node with  2800SPR which means that I'd be able to afford to fund roughly 68 snodes in this way.



EDIT:  Correcting price error

A quick check on AWS estimates that it would cost $3000pm to run the following:

68 x T2.micro
68 x 60GB magnetic volumes
13,600GB outbound traffic
1360GB inbound traffic (free anyway)

This means the #1 wallet holder would need to see about 130,000SPR per month (at current price) to break even)

goodness gracious, that's certainly cost prohibitive.  I was thinking a remote server in the range of $ 5 month/node would be borderline feasible but would need the price of spr to reach beyond .000205 to be profitable.

Since the primary objective is decentralization, why not tie cpu mining to spr's first reward service?  It would strengthen the network, be something anyone could jump into with little cost, wouldn't be too difficult to implement, and provide preliminary insight into how the competition dynamics will play out.   

This does more to highlight the prohibitive cost of outgoing/upload traffic on AWS.

There are VPS providers who can provide the required bandwidth for a full bitcoin node for far less it seems.

[coins101]

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goodness gracious, that's certainly cost prohibitive.  I was thinking a remote server in the range of $ 5 month/node would be borderline feasible but would need the price of spr to reach beyond .000205 to be profitable.

Since the primary objective is decentralization, why not tie cpu mining to spr's first reward service?  It would strengthen the network, be something anyone could jump into with little cost, wouldn't be too difficult to implement, and provide preliminary insight into how the competition dynamics will play out.  

This does more to highlight the prohibitive cost of outgoing/upload traffic on AWS. While AWS are pretty gold standard, the costs can get out of control if not manged properly. There are plenty of other options that are much cheaper, and as stonehedge says, would cost around $5/month or a little more.

There are VPS providers who can provide the required bandwidth for a full bitcoin node for far less it seems.

If everyone used AWS, then we wouldn't have decentralization. We would become an Amazon subsidiary.

Also, its worth remembering that this is a for-profit-project.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=976031.msg10656234#msg10656234

The services that will be underpinning everything will need to make it very financially attractive to own a servienode and run a bitcoin full node.

I don't see services as being only marginally attractive. They should be good enough to provide a high primary or secondary income depending on where you live and how many servicenodes you set-up.

[defunctec]

The maximum number of service nodes at the moment is ~880 based on a coin supply of ~2,540,000.

This means that number 1 wallet would be able to run ~68 service nodes ( without worry about being dropped by the spread.  Interesting stuff.

68 full service/bitcoin nodes.  That would be a serious commitment to bandwidth bills

Interesting, what is the calculation that you made to come up with 68?

I was going by mental arithmetic so I'll show you my rough working from memory.  I apologise for the mental back of fag packet calculations!

Number 1 wallet has ~200k SPR

Current coin supply is ~2,500,000

Max number of snodes (coin supply/2880)= 868

Based on the false premise that every coin will be used in a servicenode (I have no data to guess how many coins will be in snodes):

Max coin supply / Max snodes = 2880SPR

Meaning that if I was the owner of #1 wallet and I wanted to guarantee that all of my service nodes were in the spread I'd load each node with  2800SPR which means that I'd be able to afford to fund roughly 68 snodes in this way.



EDIT:  Correcting price error

A quick check on AWS estimates that it would cost $3000pm to run the following:

68 x T2.micro
68 x 60GB magnetic volumes
13,600GB outbound traffic
1360GB inbound traffic (free anyway)

This means the #1 wallet holder would need to see about 130,000SPR per month (at current price) to break even)

goodness gracious, that's certainly cost prohibitive.  I was thinking a remote server in the range of $ 5 month/node would be borderline feasible but would need the price of spr to reach beyond .000205 to be profitable.

Since the primary objective is decentralization, why not tie cpu mining to spr's first reward service?  It would strengthen the network, be something anyone could jump into with little cost, wouldn't be too difficult to implement, and provide preliminary insight into how the competition dynamics will play out.   

The price's you refer too (.000205) will be smashed if servicenodes are released.

I saw a peak of around 0.0006+ when MrSpread was testing masternodes.

So SPR SN's will be profitable... Potentially very profitable!

[coins101]

Bitcoin nodes have gone from 10k, to around 6k in about 12 months.



Feedback from nodes

As part of the bitcoin core developer team, Mike Hearn sees the issue of nodes dropping from 10,000 down to under 7,000 as a significant problem. To Hearn, the core of the issue is disinterest in both expending computing resources and electricity toward something that may have diminishing value.

On the bitcoin developer mailing list, Hearn has proposed added functionality that would allow communications between nodes and the developers to better understand why so many are dropping out.

Hearn also wants to exclude consumer wallets installed on laptops and desktops from the network as well.

This is because their number will continue to decline no matter what – and they appear to only be working when users are awake during the day.

One of the reasons why lots of nodes are important is redundancy, according to Hearn:

"It makes [the bitcoin network] 'seem' bigger, more robust and more decentralised, because there are more people uniting to run it. So there's a psychological benefit."

Moving forward

Bitcoin core developer Jeff Garzik believes that community attention to the lack of nodes supporting the network is what the industry needs in order to boost numbers:

"I agree we need more full nodes. I've long been a proponent of such calls for more nodes."

However, such calls for voluntary support might not be enough motivation for people to do so, though, so, one logical idea that has been floated is to give nodes some sort of incentive.

However, that's probably not feasible right now: over the past six months, miners have been averaging a daily reward of 15.98 BTC per day, according to Blockchain.

http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-nodes-need/

[pookielax31]

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/34xjk5/number_of_nodes_is_at_an_all_time_low_how_is_a/

Bitcoin Nodes/ and or the lack there off seems to be a topic that is really heating up!

[itsAj]

Might get some spread today I like the project.