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Author Topic: [ANN] SpreadCoin | Decentralize Everything (decentralized blockexplorer coming)  (Read 790411 times)
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June 02, 2015, 09:53:16 AM
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We have our very first troll since relaunch.  Achievement unlocked!

Put him or her on ignore and lets enjoy the free publicity  Smiley
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June 02, 2015, 10:04:17 AM
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We have our very first troll since relaunch.  Achievement unlocked!

Put him or her on ignore and lets enjoy the free publicity  Smiley
yeah lol, seems to me its someone who is disgrunted.. ohh well... back to my job :-p

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June 02, 2015, 10:34:37 AM
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We have our very first troll since relaunch.  Achievement unlocked!

Put him or her on ignore and lets enjoy the free publicity  Smiley

I will put him on ignore, but not right now.

The thread needs a bump bitch, and he has volunteered. Not much to work with, but he'll do for now.

A few days ago someone asked on the DASH thread why there were over 5,000 pages. Just from this guys SPR posts he has probably generated ~6-10 related posts.

From darkcoin, if I had to guess, of the ~5,000 darkcoin / DASH posts, 65%-80% are responses to trolls or troll related in some way. That's serious free bump advertising.

Come out to play, bump bitch.....

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June 02, 2015, 10:51:36 AM
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So the program gives me a result after a second:

Code:
Address: SieiiXS9E2Gc22AtmAnzGXFpjGr1VbokaG
Privkey: 7R2PsAdjaJEgBZ34dhRmcuanABeHMzTLrN6EFjmiPT69zXyFUJi

But after I import this privkey into my wallet (doesn't matter if it's the old or new wallet)....

Code:
importprivkey 7R2PsAdjaJEgBZ34dhRmcuanABeHMzTLrN6EFjmiPT69zXyFUJi SOMELABEL false

....it does import the privkey alright, but it's from a totally different address:

SSCwYCKryr2gSLxuyDaCxCRGtangqxLfSi
vanitygen is working with uncompressed addresses.
the displayed SieiiXS9E2... address is an uncompressed address, while SSCwYC... address is the compressed (private key is VK39vRX8uy5MwaQ72ySKwV66KXyZDebGct65W3nMg69kgXf3vBL9 )
both have the same private ECDSA key (621CFB6D7AA39D2AD993F39AB560CD1A872DD68D1C22199A7E48B5F96AECE153)

you can verify it: http://www.universalwalletgenerator.net/ -> setup custom, public address: 63

Elbandi

Well I didn't know that  Cool

http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/bitcoin-development/thread/CAPg+sBhDFCjAn1tRRQhaudtqwsh4vcVbxzm+AA2OuFxN71fwUA@mail.gmail.com/
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June 02, 2015, 12:25:13 PM
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Have you ever thought I am Mr. Spread ?

Or Maybe I am e1ghtSpace ?

Keep dreaming with your non-existent M̶a̶s̶t̶e̶r̶N̶o̶d̶e̶s̶, S̶p̶r̶e̶a̶d̶S̶e̶e̶d̶s̶, S̶p̶r̶e̶a̶d̶N̶o̶d̶e̶s, ServiceNodes.

Mr.Spread left you with a sped up test version of the MasterNode code that doesn't quite work properly with electing.

I'll probably see SPR in another 3 Months and it still won't have ServiceNodes.

Stop hyping up the old Devs code he left you and saying you are releasing something way better lol you guys didn't even understand what he was doing yet you want to better him, keyword "want".
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June 02, 2015, 12:38:44 PM
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^^ Hey, bump bitch  Wink

Why should anyone care that much about the technology that drives the services? As long as it works, it does the job.

The umbrella that will drive value and use cases are the services that people might want to use.  That can be done on the forked SPR code or DASH, or whatever.
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June 02, 2015, 01:23:34 PM
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Building decentralized web on nodes - interesting

https://youtu.be/999q3_htKPU?t=8m58s

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https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs
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June 02, 2015, 01:30:24 PM
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Building decentralized web on nodes - interesting

https://youtu.be/999q3_htKPU?t=8m58s

Ooh you are a tease!
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June 02, 2015, 01:54:43 PM
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Only slightly off-topic (there's a comment from the Maidsafe folk), rumblings about PM David Cameron and Home Secretary Theresa May's intentions to backdoor all UK-sourced cryptography:

“Escaping the May-trix: Snoopers’ Charter will force a mass exodus of tech firms from the UK”
http://www.thenational.scot/news/escaping-the-may-trix-snoopers-charter-will-force-a-mass-exodus-of-tech-firms-from-the-uk.3636


but the illustration is absolutely priceless:



Cheers

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Last edit: June 02, 2015, 03:14:44 PM by coins101
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Building decentralized web on nodes - interesting

https://youtu.be/999q3_htKPU?t=8m58s

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https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs

The backstory to decentralised web of nodes proposition (or most things) - which makes sense of what he is proposing and why it will work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa4pckodM9g

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With nodes: more decentralized nodes, the faster the download speeds.

With http: the more the users, the slower the download speeds.

Simples,

http://academictorrents.com/

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June 02, 2015, 02:26:40 PM
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So the program gives me a result after a second:

Code:
Address: SieiiXS9E2Gc22AtmAnzGXFpjGr1VbokaG
Privkey: 7R2PsAdjaJEgBZ34dhRmcuanABeHMzTLrN6EFjmiPT69zXyFUJi

But after I import this privkey into my wallet (doesn't matter if it's the old or new wallet)....

Code:
importprivkey 7R2PsAdjaJEgBZ34dhRmcuanABeHMzTLrN6EFjmiPT69zXyFUJi SOMELABEL false

....it does import the privkey alright, but it's from a totally different address:

SSCwYCKryr2gSLxuyDaCxCRGtangqxLfSi
vanitygen is working with uncompressed addresses.
the displayed SieiiXS9E2... address is an uncompressed address, while SSCwYC... address is the compressed (private key is VK39vRX8uy5MwaQ72ySKwV66KXyZDebGct65W3nMg69kgXf3vBL9 )
both have the same private ECDSA key (621CFB6D7AA39D2AD993F39AB560CD1A872DD68D1C22199A7E48B5F96AECE153)

you can verify it: http://www.universalwalletgenerator.net/ -> setup custom, public address: 63

Elbandi

what is the use of a vanity address? ...

i mean - that really doesnt have any real bearing on spr itself and the project as a whole does it? ...

or am i missing something obvious here? ...

#crysx

Thanks to elbandi for explaining this.

That's the reason I do the vanitygen, it forces me to explore everything about spreadcoin step by step.

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June 02, 2015, 02:34:23 PM
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So the program gives me a result after a second:

Code:
Address: SieiiXS9E2Gc22AtmAnzGXFpjGr1VbokaG
Privkey: 7R2PsAdjaJEgBZ34dhRmcuanABeHMzTLrN6EFjmiPT69zXyFUJi

But after I import this privkey into my wallet (doesn't matter if it's the old or new wallet)....

Code:
importprivkey 7R2PsAdjaJEgBZ34dhRmcuanABeHMzTLrN6EFjmiPT69zXyFUJi SOMELABEL false

....it does import the privkey alright, but it's from a totally different address:

SSCwYCKryr2gSLxuyDaCxCRGtangqxLfSi
vanitygen is working with uncompressed addresses.
the displayed SieiiXS9E2... address is an uncompressed address, while SSCwYC... address is the compressed (private key is VK39vRX8uy5MwaQ72ySKwV66KXyZDebGct65W3nMg69kgXf3vBL9 )
both have the same private ECDSA key (621CFB6D7AA39D2AD993F39AB560CD1A872DD68D1C22199A7E48B5F96AECE153)

you can verify it: http://www.universalwalletgenerator.net/ -> setup custom, public address: 63

Elbandi

what is the use of a vanity address? ...

i mean - that really doesnt have any real bearing on spr itself and the project as a whole does it? ...

or am i missing something obvious here? ...

#crysx

Thanks to elbandi for explaining this.

That's the reason I do the vanitygen, it forces me to explore everything about spreadcoin step by step.


o ok ... kool ...

i honestly thought it was something that was integral and highly important to the coin and wallet and all things spr ...

its not ... but your involvement within the development arena is - so all good mate and happy exploration Smiley ...

#crysx

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June 02, 2015, 02:58:19 PM
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Have you ever thought I am Mr. Spread ?


LMFAO - There is no way in all that is holy that you are Mr. Spread.  Mr. Spread had class, self control, and smarts.  You sir are lacking in all three.  You do serve a purpose though.

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June 02, 2015, 03:10:51 PM
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i suspect this might have something to do with it:

in spreadcoin
// secp256k1:
// const unsigned int PRIVATE_KEY_SIZE = 279;
// const unsigned int PUBLIC_KEY_SIZE  = 33;
// const unsigned int SIGNATURE_SIZE   = 65;

in darkcoin:
// secp256k1:
// const unsigned int PRIVATE_KEY_SIZE = 279;
// const unsigned int PUBLIC_KEY_SIZE  = 65;
// const unsigned int SIGNATURE_SIZE   = 72;

 // see www.keylength.com
 // script supports up to 75 for single byte push

Now it makes sense why it is only size of 33 with spreadcoin.... ---> it's compressed!  Roll Eyes

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June 02, 2015, 03:17:23 PM
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i suspect this might have something to do with it:

in spreadcoin
// secp256k1:
// const unsigned int PRIVATE_KEY_SIZE = 279;
// const unsigned int PUBLIC_KEY_SIZE  = 33;
// const unsigned int SIGNATURE_SIZE   = 65;

in darkcoin:
// secp256k1:
// const unsigned int PRIVATE_KEY_SIZE = 279;
// const unsigned int PUBLIC_KEY_SIZE  = 65;
// const unsigned int SIGNATURE_SIZE   = 72;

 // see www.keylength.com
 // script supports up to 75 for single byte push

Now it makes sense why it is only size of 33 with spreadcoin.... ---> it's compressed!  Roll Eyes


But you can un-compress it  Tongue
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June 02, 2015, 04:07:26 PM
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i suspect this might have something to do with it:

in spreadcoin
// secp256k1:
// const unsigned int PRIVATE_KEY_SIZE = 279;
// const unsigned int PUBLIC_KEY_SIZE  = 33;
// const unsigned int SIGNATURE_SIZE   = 65;

in darkcoin:
// secp256k1:
// const unsigned int PRIVATE_KEY_SIZE = 279;
// const unsigned int PUBLIC_KEY_SIZE  = 65;
// const unsigned int SIGNATURE_SIZE   = 72;

 // see www.keylength.com
 // script supports up to 75 for single byte push

Now it makes sense why it is only size of 33 with spreadcoin.... ---> it's compressed!  Roll Eyes


yes, the compressed key is used all over in the source

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June 02, 2015, 05:24:50 PM
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vanitygen is working with uncompressed addresses.
the displayed SieiiXS9E2... address is an uncompressed address, while SSCwYC... address is the compressed (private key is VK39vRX8uy5MwaQ72ySKwV66KXyZDebGct65W3nMg69kgXf3vBL9 )
both have the same private ECDSA key (621CFB6D7AA39D2AD993F39AB560CD1A872DD68D1C22199A7E48B5F96AECE153)

you can verify it: http://www.universalwalletgenerator.net/ -> setup custom, public address: 63

Elbandi

So I managed to adjust the vanitygen so that it generates compressed addresses by borrowing from this:

https://github.com/salfter/vanitygen/commit/7ee7d9b0aa5b3841d17f0be14d2cc00f719b579f

And it works, it generates compressed SPR privkeys (starting with Letter V instead of 7 (uncompressed).

And I check the validity of the privkey on http://www.universalwalletgenerator.net/ (setup with 63,191, and then wallet-details)
and it works, it recognizes the correct SPR Vanity address.

Problem I still have is, how can I import this address into the wallet?

When I do a simple importprivkey it reports an error.

Is importprivkey as it is implemented ATM even able to import compressed keys?

Doesn't look like it.

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June 03, 2015, 01:02:04 AM
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in the long run im thinking that we need a kind of API and a extra layer for communications between nodes, and services, then it would be possible to implement whatever services people would want, and the node owners could pick whatever extra services they would like to run.... but alas, this is in the future

I was thinking along the same lines.

First we need to create fix hardcoded services so that we can gather experience and knowledge, and get the project started. (full node service, decentralized messaging, decentralized domain service maybe?, decentralized search engine, github, forum, etc, etc,...)

But while we are doing that, keep in mind that the end goal would always be to create an environment that is capable to run one last service that allows you to create your own services, in a modular way.
This final service will then also replace all previous services because they can now be emulated.

Something like this music program I use, that lets you create your own synthesizers thru a modular node-based system, where you are allowed to connect all kinds of moduls thru signals and slots.



Something like that but with crypto related moduls and dependencies ---> revolution!!!

Bump....for end of road, road map
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in the long run im thinking that we need a kind of API and a extra layer for communications between nodes, and services, then it would be possible to implement whatever services people would want, and the node owners could pick whatever extra services they would like to run.... but alas, this is in the future

I was thinking along the same lines.

First we need to create fix hardcoded services so that we can gather experience and knowledge, and get the project started. (full node service, decentralized messaging, decentralized domain service maybe?, decentralized search engine, github, forum, etc, etc,...)

But while we are doing that, keep in mind that the end goal would always be to create an environment that is capable to run one last service that allows you to create your own services, in a modular way.
This final service will then also replace all previous services because they can now be emulated.

Something like this music program I use, that lets you create your own synthesizers thru a modular node-based system, where you are allowed to connect all kinds of moduls thru signals and slots.

https://i.imgur.com/7MgAGwz.gif

Something like that but with crypto related moduls and dependencies ---> revolution!!!

Bump....for end of road, road map


https://i.imgur.com/H99kzci.jpg?1

End of the road, now to start on that sand path  Grin
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June 03, 2015, 06:20:15 AM
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Quote from: MrSpace link=topic=1045373.msg11521095#msg11521095
MrSpace, I would just like to know what I did for you to be like this.
I can't think of anything.
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